Wisconsin capitol bans recording, flags, reading, balloons, chairs, bags, backpacks, photography, etc etc etc

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63 Responses to “Wisconsin capitol bans recording, flags, reading, balloons, chairs, bags, backpacks, photography, etc etc etc”

  1. simonbarsinister says:

    What concerns me is that Governor Scott Walker doesn’t think his actions are ending his political career. He must think they are enhancing his career or he wouldn’t be doing them.

    • floraldeoderant says:

      I think he doesn’t care. How much you wanna bet he’s got some cushy Board Member position lined up, in which he gets 1.5mil/year just for breathing, for when he gets canned?

    • DoctressJulia says:

      Well, it is enhancing his career. After he’s recalled (I hope!) he’ll have a job waiting for him at Koch Industries. They’ve bought him, after all. Word has it he’d get to be Executive Vice president or some other slimy shit like that. I wish this fucker would just resign! Asshole.

  2. DoctorMantis says:

    It doesn’t say anything pitchforks and torches does it?

    • Antinous / Moderator says:

      It doesn’t say anything pitchforks and torches does it?

      No, but it also doesn’t say anything about boiling oil or molten lead.

    • Neon Tooth says:

      Or tar and feathers either. This movie needs to end with this jag-bag being run out of town on a rail.

  3. readingdog says:

    With what he is doing to education, reading in the capitol won’t be an issue. People won’t know how to read.

  4. Zac says:

    All right, I wasn’t going to, but I’ll say it:

    Asshole.

  5. shadowfirebird says:

    Silent reading — how can they tell?

    “Officer, I swear I was just looking at the pictures.”

  6. elix says:

    Don’t miss out on where it says that people in the Gallery aren’t allowed to:
    * talk
    * wear a hat
    * cheer or jeer

    Let’s see if Walker’s ringers are required to follow these rules, if he dares bring them back in.

    I’m noticing a lack of Tea Party response in here. C’mon, folks, where’s your defense of these limitations on American citizens’ rights?

  7. BBNinja says:

    I completely disagree with Walker but I at least half-respected him for sticking to his guns but now this…is beyond stupid this is PALIN (TM) STUPID.

  8. Anonymous says:

    Walker acts like he is a king from the Dark Ages rather than an American governor. King Walker’s rule of Wisconsin is crushing his people — 1st by destroying them economically and now by taking away their liberty. It appears that politicians are no longer bound by law or reason. Now that their words are instant decree, they have become our Royal Leaders.

    God save the King!

  9. Maggie Koerth-Baker says:

    Not yet banned: Tractors.

    I’m just sayin’.

  10. alllie says:

    If the Republicans can’t pass their disgusting bill without the Democrats, how can they pass these rules?

  11. lknope says:

    Banning silently reading? That’s an invitation for people to read aloud. A bunch of people should read aloud together from a book. Different people could read different parts! Maybe Shakespeare? Get on it, Wisconsinites!

    • elix says:

      Unfortunately, talking is also against the rules.

      Basically, the only thing permitted is to sit silently and write down notes in a write-only fashion (can’t have any of that reading going on!). Essentially, you may only express yourself by appearing.

  12. acb says:

    Or tar and feathers either. This movie needs to end with this jag-bag being run out of town on a rail.

    Too late; he already scrapped Wisconsin’s rail project.

  13. Vnend says:

    I also question the legality of banning photography/videography.

    I note it doesn’t say you can’t hum. Which would be better to hum when Walker appears, the music used when the Wicked Witch sends her flying monkeys after Dorothy, or the Imperial March, from “The Empire Strikes Back”? Or perhaps the latter when the Gov. appears and the former when someone tries to stop someone from doing something reasonable (like, say, reading)?

  14. millrick says:

    no crockpots?

    I’ll give you my crockpot when you pry it from my cold, dead hands!

  15. Anonymous says:

    @Vnend: OOOOO! The Imperial March, from “The Empire Strikes Back” with KAZOOS! They’re not on the list…yet.

  16. zubaz says:

    Most of those rules seem prudent to keep the business of the government running. “Peaceable assembly” doesn’t not mean “right to disrupt”.

    The next election cycle in WI should be very interesting.

    • IronEdithKidd says:

      What, pray tell, is disruptive about people reading silently?

    • millrick says:

      how does clapping disrupt the business of government?

    • Phikus says:

      Yeah, reading silently is so disruptive. Did your logic circuit get disengaged, or was it just your bullshit detector? These rules serve no purpose except to make sure that protesters are as uncomfortable as possible, or to enable the arrest of them for the infraction of being human, so that they will leave and he get get about the dirty work of screwing over the people of Wisconsin.

    • RandomGameR says:

      Or, more importantly, where’s your proof?

      I think the right to peacefully protest on government (read publicly owned) property isn’t as conditional as you think.

  17. DoctressJulia says:

    Well, he just passed the fucking bill… ……D:

  18. MattB says:

    All those stupid rules and they couldn’t make room for a ban on walking around Farmers’ Market clockwise?

  19. Anonymous says:

    Does this mean that it is against the rules to sliently read who is present in the legislature and it is against the rules to read how they vote?

  20. Anonymous says:

    @Vnend:
    You can’t do this, this would be copyright infringement!!!

    But I have a little problem with the silent reading – it’s good that you can read aloud, but what if you silently read the rules – you are already violating these rules with reading them, but without reading them you can’t know the rules – there is a certain amount of Logic *not* there and I wonder what the legal consequences are then. You aren’t allowed to read the rules – can you be *whatever* based on the rules?

  21. Anonymous says:

    What about signing? (ASL) I think they’d have a very difficult time disallowing that.

  22. travtastic says:

    I think it’s now safe to say that these guys are officially caricatures. Wisconsin is being run by a hastily-drawn political cartoon.

  23. JProffitt71 says:

    Okay, I decided to read the article linked and the original rules just to make sure this wasn’t being misinterpreted.

    My conclusion is that this is indeed a tactic to make protestors as uncomfortable and incapable of assembling as possible, as well as limiting their ability to communicate to everyone else. Reasons being…

    In the Senate Gallery:

    1) No reading books or newspapers – This is not disruptive or destructive, anywhere, ever. It’s already been mentioned many many times.

    2) No audio recordings – While I can understand video recordings, I can’t imagine how an audio recorder could be disruptive unless the user was really malicious and like.. threw it at someone, but then it is no longer an audio recorder in purpose. This essentially limits communication to word of mouth… outside the building.

    3) Dismissal and/or confiscation of items upon breaking these rules. Note that the original post says “law enforcement officers will not assume responsibility for items not allowed in the gallery”(http://capaccess.blogspot.com/). So naturally no recordings will leave this hall.

    4) “These rules are subject to changes by the Senate Organization Committee at any time and without prior notice.” No potential for abuse there, nope, not at all.

    In the capitol building in general:

    1) No chairs or pillows – While I can understand not having mattresses, simple portable comforts like these do not infringe upon “the plan to depart the building at the posted closing time”. At least sitting on the floor isn’t banned yet (except for in the Assembly Gallery).

    2) No signs or flags – Yeah, just.. how does one justify that?

    3) No PAs – Does nothing to impede aforementioned plan, does make it harder to rally the protestors.

    Overall these rules just have a malicious undertone, which given the situation, is not surprising.

  24. Anonymous says:

    Cue the lawsuits for constitutional violations…
    I wish them luck.

  25. Anonymous says:

    Oh noes! They forgot bubbles! The anarchy!

  26. mgfarrelly says:

    How exactly does one justify banning “silent reading”?

    “I’m sorry, that woman over there is reading and it’s causing a commotion. Summon the guards, release the hounds.”

    That building belongs to the people of Wisconsin. They can do with it what they damn well please.

  27. Neon Tooth says:

    I’m sure Tea Party know-nothings will show up to protest this ‘big government’, anti-freedom measure of Walker’s……..right?

  28. EH says:

    It’s the goal of politicians to introduce value judgements into the law, such as “inconsistent,” and y’all look ripe for a Tasering.

  29. emmdeeaych says:

    After all those arrests*, something MUST be done to control those protestors.

    * – none

  30. Neon Tooth says:

    or to enable the arrest of them for the infraction of being human

    Indeed, and the question now is will the protesters disobey these ridiculous rules, and how will the idiot Walker respond.

  31. Rob says:

    A bunch of people need to go there and silently read.

    Throwing out someone reading the Constitution is going to have some nice PR to it.

    • elix says:

      A bunch of people need to go there and silently read.

      Throwing out someone reading the Constitution is going to have some nice PR to it.

      This! This this this this this this this. If I was in Wisconsin, three guesses what I’d do.

  32. mn_camera says:

    So I suppose if people showed up in Madison with a flag, and they would not let them bring it into the capitol building, they’d have no objection to them burning it on the steps in order to comply with this inane regulation? (Rhetorical, folks, don’t get your drawers in a twist.)

    What next, goose-stepping guards?

    Pity this troublesome governor isn’t eligible for recall until the end of the year.

  33. kpkpkp says:

    What about duct tape?

  34. Ugly Canuck says:

    I see that some higher impulse prevented them from any attempt to forbid people from engaging in silent prayer.

  35. Anonymous says:

    Why hasn’t this man been shoved out of office for a flagrant violation of our First Amendment right to assembly?

    I mean, he makes no bones about the fact that he is protest-breaking by violating the Wisconsin and US Constitutions.

  36. jphilby says:

    Nothing in there about bales of hay or wheelbarrows of dung either.

  37. Anonymous says:

    Perhaps the governor’s jealous of people who can read without moving their lips?

    Seriously? The man couldn’t get any more exaggeratedly “Evil Management” if he banned colours and decreed the capital must only painted in various shades of grey.

    Perhaps he’s been watching too much of The Child That Smelt Funny, from the author of Salad Fingers.
    http://www.fat-pie.com/thechildthatsmeltfunny.htm

  38. Anonymous says:

    No silent reading? So will they start kicking reps out for reading bills to themselves or do they need to read out loud like simpletons?

    You can’t lean over the railing? Seriously?

    I bet they’d ok bringing guns in like in AZ or NH.

    Wow, Walker is beyond d-baggery, he is a sociopath.

  39. rourin_bushi says:

    Um, if he’s violating the state constitution, and a court order, why isn’t he being removed? I recall they said “we are complying, look, 8 people at a time.” That’s not really the same as “public access” >.>
    And now this?

  40. Anonymous says:

    …But I guess it’s OK to put your arm up in a Hitlergruss?

  41. TimmerCA says:

    Didn’t a federal judge just recently rule that the government cannot stop people from photographing or recording activities on government property, with very few exceptions (like restricted parts of military bases)?

  42. johannabanna says:

    “a ban on signs, silently reading, photography, video or audio recording, bags, backpacks, clapping, cheering, balloons, crockpots, food storage, beds, sleeping bags, musical instruments, flags, chairs, …”

    … and the letter “Z”?

  43. thesunhatesme says:

    I see no explicit ban on bringing in plain cardboard and breakdancing in the capital. I say everybody bust a ‘spin’ or two like Walker has been this entire time….

  44. Yamara says:

    A lot of Shires needing Scouring.

    Scott Walker and his pals have Too Many Things.

  45. acb says:

    As for populist authoritarianism, who was it that said something like “the masses are feminine and want a firm leader”? I think he may have been Austrian.

  46. PeaceNerd says:

    …fish bowls, wire-framed glasses, miniskirts, eleven kinds of cheese, plaid, ennui, pointed sticks, goatees, fresh fruit, small children, decaffeinated coffee, everything bagels…

  47. IronEdithKidd says:

    I’ve had running questions since the first court order to keep the capitol open was delivered: How do you effectively enforce court orders on the governor? How deep must shenanigans run before the judge that issued the order rules the governor in contempt? If found in contempt, who will be sent to arrest him?

  48. Anonymous says:

    I sure as hell hope no one is actually following these ridiculous orders. Let them arrest hundreds of people for reading, and a few more for clapping, and see what that does for public opinion.

  49. Anonymous says:

    Many of those restrictions are specifically for members of the public viewing the Assembly or Senate while they are in session, not for general access to the building. Before you get pissed off for the wrong reasons, read the link. It specifies which things are banned from the meeting chambers (mostly for good reason, and unchanged from before this started) and things which are banned from the capitol as a whole, putting them on much shakier ground.

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