Comments on: Notorious financier gets a "super-injunction" prohibiting the press from revealing that he is a banker http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 20 Jun 2013 00:00:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: johnphantom http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051401 johnphantom Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051401 He definitely should have gone with the Double Secret Super-Duper Injunction. //snark off "£200,000/year pension at taxpayer's expense" I have a bit of a problem with this statement. From Faux News saying about the Wall Street people, "the bonuses were part of their contract and have to be honored", to what is happening in Wisconsin, "the pensions were negotiated and part of their pay" the statement above seems a bit disingenuous. Maybe if you fail at your job, at a private company, corporate company, or government job, it should be written into your contract that you lose part of your pension... He definitely should have gone with the Double Secret Super-Duper Injunction.

//snark off

“£200,000/year pension at taxpayer’s expense”

I have a bit of a problem with this statement. From Faux News saying about the Wall Street people, “the bonuses were part of their contract and have to be honored”, to what is happening in Wisconsin, “the pensions were negotiated and part of their pay” the statement above seems a bit disingenuous.

Maybe if you fail at your job, at a private company, corporate company, or government job, it should be written into your contract that you lose part of your pension…

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051403 Antinous / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051403 Yeah, but what about Dickipedia? Yeah, but what about Dickipedia?

]]> By: takomabibelot http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051439 takomabibelot Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051439 Tagset updated appropriately on my snapshot of his Wanted Poster: http://www.flickr.com/photos/takomabibelot/3361890335/. Tagset updated appropriately on my snapshot of his Wanted Poster: http://www.flickr.com/photos/takomabibelot/3361890335/.

]]> By: Brent http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051199 Brent Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051199 Correction: the article states that he was making 700,000 pounds a year before taking a 200,000 pound cut to his pay due to public outcry. That would mean he still makes 500,000. Correction: the article states that he was making 700,000 pounds a year before taking a 200,000 pound cut to his pay due to public outcry. That would mean he still makes 500,000.

]]> By: IronEdithKidd http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051457 IronEdithKidd Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051457 Dang! I was hoping you had a hyperlink for that. Dang! I was hoping you had a hyperlink for that.

]]> By: imipak http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051240 imipak Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051240 @church: the press knew about it, they just weren't able to report it until a (Liberal Democrat) MP asked a question in the Commons, where his speech was under Parliamentary privilege (and therefore can be reported without restraint.) Presumably he was tipped off by someone in the press. The second thing is that this really wasn't about him trying to hide the fact that he's a banker. The real story can be read between the lines of a few tweets from the legendary @bengoldacre: http://twitter.com/#!/bengoldacre/status/45978344809955328 http://twitter.com/#!/bengoldacre/status/45978629561262080 http://twitter.com/#!/bengoldacre/status/45979384540172288 http://twitter.com/#!/bengoldacre/status/45981010264981504 ... @church: the press knew about it, they just weren’t able to report it until a (Liberal Democrat) MP asked a question in the Commons, where his speech was under Parliamentary privilege (and therefore can be reported without restraint.) Presumably he was tipped off by someone in the press.

The second thing is that this really wasn’t about him trying to hide the fact that he’s a banker. The real story can be read between the lines of a few tweets from the legendary @bengoldacre:

http://twitter.com/#!/bengoldacre/status/45978344809955328
http://twitter.com/#!/bengoldacre/status/45978629561262080
http://twitter.com/#!/bengoldacre/status/45979384540172288
http://twitter.com/#!/bengoldacre/status/45981010264981504

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]]> By: bjacques http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051002 bjacques Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051002 If anything needs to be leaked onto the internet and Tweeted from British rooftops, it's stuff like this. The faster the pointlessness of gag orders and D notices can be demonstrated to be, the better. I was watching the discussion of this on BBC Newsnight last night. Living here in Old Yurp (or maybe New Yurp--NL joined the Coalition of the Willing), it's easy to laugh at CNN International and take the BBC for granted, until something like this happens. Start a contest to see just how much of Fred the Shred's personal information can be spewed all over the internet. Follow with $PHILANDERING_SPORTSMAN. If anything needs to be leaked onto the internet and Tweeted from British rooftops, it’s stuff like this. The faster the pointlessness of gag orders and D notices can be demonstrated to be, the better.

I was watching the discussion of this on BBC Newsnight last night. Living here in Old Yurp (or maybe New Yurp–NL joined the Coalition of the Willing), it’s easy to laugh at CNN International and take the BBC for granted, until something like this happens.

Start a contest to see just how much of Fred the Shred’s personal information can be spewed all over the internet. Follow with $PHILANDERING_SPORTSMAN.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051770 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051770 Hello, Fred Goodwin. We are Anonymous. Over the years, we have been watching you. Your campaigns of super-injunction; suppression of dissent; your litigious nature, all of these things have caught our eye. You cannot hide; we are everywhere. We cannot die; we are forever. We're getting bigger every day--and solely by the force of our ideas, malicious and hostile as they often are. If you want another name for your opponent, then call us Legion, for we are many. Yet for all that we are not as monstrous as you are; still our methods are a parallel to your own. Doubtless you will use the Anon's actions as an example of the persecution you have so long warned your followers would come; this is acceptable. In fact, it is encouraged. We are your SPs. Knowledge is free. We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us. Hello, Fred Goodwin. We are Anonymous.

Over the years, we have been watching you. Your campaigns of super-injunction; suppression of dissent; your litigious nature, all of these things have caught our eye.

You cannot hide; we are everywhere.

We cannot die; we are forever. We’re getting bigger every day–and solely by the force of our ideas, malicious and hostile as they often are. If you want another name for your opponent, then call us Legion, for we are many.

Yet for all that we are not as monstrous as you are; still our methods are a parallel to your own. Doubtless you will use the Anon’s actions as an example of the persecution you have so long warned your followers would come; this is acceptable. In fact, it is encouraged. We are your SPs.

Knowledge is free.

We are Anonymous.

We are Legion.

We do not forgive.

We do not forget.

Expect us.

]]> By: seanpatgallagher http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051261 seanpatgallagher Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051261 Forget Wikileaks... this calls for a new kickstarter campaign. -S Forget Wikileaks… this calls for a new kickstarter campaign.

-S

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051014 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051014 Before the Tsunami took over, #Fredgoodwinisabanker was an inevitable trending topic in the UK on Twitter. Before the Tsunami took over, #Fredgoodwinisabanker was an inevitable trending topic in the UK on Twitter.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051022 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051022 The news is out, seems like the "super-injunction" didn't work. Fred should have opted for the "super-duper-injunction" The news is out, seems like the “super-injunction” didn’t work. Fred should have opted for the “super-duper-injunction”

]]> By: wnoise http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051037 wnoise Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051037 Why do you link to Charlie's blog site as a whole, rather than the entry in question at http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2011/03/wanker.html ? Why do you link to Charlie’s blog site as a whole, rather than the entry in question at http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2011/03/wanker.html ?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051051 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051051 and people wonder why I'm not patriotic... So if we splash his personal information all over the interwebs will he pay back the taxpayer's money he was given? and people wonder why I’m not patriotic…
So if we splash his personal information all over the interwebs will he pay back the taxpayer’s money he was given?

]]> By: Church http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051055 Church Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051055 So, how does a newspaper find out that there's a super-injuction covering someone? So, how does a newspaper find out that there’s a super-injuction covering someone?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051059 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051059 Ooo, Cory, do you think you and Charlie will get to be cellmates? If this proceeding is to be taken seriously, you two would have to be punished for breaking the injunction. The MP is OK, due to parliamentary exception. But if I understand correctly, the BBC is now reporting it based on what the MP said? If that's the case, I suppose his lawyer needs to withdraw it. But as for others that have done it, it would be interesting to find out if any media has ever done anything about it. After all, isn't the court vulnerable to FOI requests? Also, how does the media know they're running afoul of a secret court case, anyway? Ooo, Cory, do you think you and Charlie will get to be cellmates?

If this proceeding is to be taken seriously, you two would have to be punished for breaking the injunction. The MP is OK, due to parliamentary exception. But if I understand correctly, the BBC is now reporting it based on what the MP said? If that’s the case, I suppose his lawyer needs to withdraw it.

But as for others that have done it, it would be interesting to find out if any media has ever done anything about it. After all, isn’t the court vulnerable to FOI requests?

Also, how does the media know they’re running afoul of a secret court case, anyway?

]]> By: bjacques http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051064 bjacques Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051064 Christ, what an _____________! Christ, what an _____________!

]]> By: billstewart http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051070 billstewart Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051070 Is this like being on "Double-Secret Probation"? Or does the press have to refer to "Sir Fred, who in a past life was a B*****"? And how did he get to be "Sir Fred", anyway - was it for being a B*****, or had he done something else notable? Is this like being on “Double-Secret Probation”?
Or does the press have to refer to “Sir Fred, who in a past life was a B*****”?
And how did he get to be “Sir Fred”, anyway – was it for being a B*****, or had he done something else notable?

]]> By: billstewart http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051074 billstewart Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051074 Comment#2 from IGarryOK92 is either spam or very bad parody... Comment#2 from IGarryOK92 is either spam or very bad parody…

]]> By: turn_self_off http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051079 turn_self_off Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051079 When a high payed lawyer shows up at the editors office? When a high payed lawyer shows up at the editors office?

]]> By: Rivernator http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051081 Rivernator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051081 Sounds like a job for Wikileaks! Sounds like a job for Wikileaks!

]]> By: LabRat001 http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051345 LabRat001 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051345 I wonder how close to this kind of scenario the BBC could get without being censored . . . Today a public figure has secured an injunction preventing the BBC from revealing news about them or identifying them. In other news Sir Fred Goodwin is . . . <1 minute silence/mime/unicorn>. or perhaps each news broadcast should include a ten second fact about Sir Fred that we ARE allowed to publish? BREAKING NEWS Sir Fred Goodwin has grey hair! I wonder how close to this kind of scenario the BBC could get without being censored . . .

Today a public figure has secured an injunction preventing the BBC from revealing news about them or identifying them.

In other news Sir Fred Goodwin is . . . <1 minute silence/mime/unicorn>.

or perhaps each news broadcast should include a ten second fact about Sir Fred that we ARE allowed to publish?

BREAKING NEWS Sir Fred Goodwin has grey hair!

]]> By: Church http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051348 Church Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051348 <em> @church: the press knew about it...</em> How? Do they get a copy of the injunction beforehand? And what if a random blogger doesn't? Sorry if I'm being dense, but this is confusing to me. @church: the press knew about it…

How? Do they get a copy of the injunction beforehand? And what if a random blogger doesn’t?

Sorry if I’m being dense, but this is confusing to me.

]]> By: turn_self_off http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051098 turn_self_off Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051098 to bad they are drip feeding the US diplomatic cables and still have the Bank of America stuff to reveal. to bad they are drip feeding the US diplomatic cables and still have the Bank of America stuff to reveal.

]]> By: jowlsey http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051379 jowlsey Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051379 Wikipedia is already on the job. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Goodwin Wikipedia is already on the job.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Goodwin

]]> By: Church http://boingboing.net/2011/03/11/notorious-financier.html#comment-1051129 Church Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1051129 So, after they publish something that violates the injunction? So, after they publish something that violates the injunction?

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