Hotline for saving bees in L.A.

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  1. JoshP says:

    This is gonna sound strange, but here goes.
    I’m about three or years into a homestead, mostly off the grid building project in way rural ruralia.
    I still don’t have my ceptic tank up, so the area where I, well, pee attracts bees by the scads. I’ve assumed it was moisture but it could be salts or the ammonia???. I thought some bee people out their might find this interesting.

  2. NYC Beekeeping Dot Org says:

    The NYC Bee Rescue Hotline already exists. It was set up by the 1000+ members of non-profit “NYC Beekeeping dot Org”.

    The number is 917-740-4BEE (4233).

    It has been in operation for several years, with dozens of swarms safely rescued in all 5 Boros. A handful of hives have also been safely removed from structures were they had become established.

    No surprise, the number was ported to Google Voice to simplify forwarding to different people manning the dispatch function on different days.

    Any of the members of the group with the deliberately confusingly similar name are welcome to sign up for bee rescue duty, but there is some basic training that is prerequisite, as the NYC Parks Dept and we share a concern about safety, and many of the swarms we have rescued since 2006 have required at least a ladder, some have required deployment of NYPD/FDNY equipment, and some have required ropes and climbing gear.

  3. ackpht says:

    I’m covered in bees!

  4. Anonymous says:

    My name is John Harding and I have found the answer and solution to stop honeybees dying.

    It is nothing to do with any man-made product.

    Honeybees were dying before the Varroa mite, Pesticides, Mobile Phones, G M crops, Global Warming or whatever you care to mention was manufactured or thought of.

    Below, in two parts are the reasons why.

    First part is an extract from my book.

    The second part is from a proof copy leaflet that was presented by myself to all delegates of the International Bee Research Association (IBRA) Conference held in the UK on the 29th January 2011.

    Please enjoy reading and then realise honeybees have been dying for centuries, not just recently.

    First part; (Extract from my book)

    I am sure you are aware of the plight of the honeybee worldwide.

    Beekeepers need an answer. Initially apiarist worldwide was putting the blame for the honeybee demise on the doorstep of the Chemical and Mobile Phone Industries.

    Honeybees are dying out at an alarming rate with no one knowing why. Pesticides, CCD, GM crops, Climate change, Mobiles, Global warming or perhaps someone or something to blame would be acceptable to everyone.
    There are many possibilities being put forward but as yet, no answers.

    The parasitic mite called Varroa is not helping matters with its contribution.

    However there are two common denominators why honeybees are dying worldwide. A short explanation first.

    Chemical companies are investing millions worldwide in Universities, Scientists, Professors, Doctors, Institutes, Beekeeping Organisations and whoever, so they just might find a chemical or bacterial answer for the parasitic mite called Varroa that is sweeping the continents devastating honeybees. Mobile Phone Companies are in denial not wanting the blame.

    Chemical companies need an answer whether it is one or the other so they may recoup their investment and profit from beekeepers worldwide in selling their product.

    Was Albert Einstein right in his alleged statement? “If honeybees die out then mankind will follow 4 years later” the chances are that it won’t be 4 years due to other foods such as rice being available but it will happen eventually as honeybees do pollinate 35% of what we eat.

    Once honeybees are gone, honeybees are gone for good!

    I am a beekeeper of 30 years` experience, keeping up to 300 beehives, until 6 years ago. I have invented beekeeping equipment in that time that I am proud to say, does bare my name, “The Harding Queen Rearing System using Two Queens” and “The Harding Mini Nucleus Complete System” (as seen on the website for BIBBA). These are an inclusion of my book, Chapter Three & Five.

    During my life’s work things happen and you wonder at nature, how perfect is the honeybee micro-world, why would you want to change it and yet mankind unknowingly has changed the honeybees perfect 200 million year existence to what mankind wants.

    My beekeeping puzzle is based on observation, common sense and logic over the past 30 years with each piece complimenting the next, eventually creating a picture and discovering;

    “The answer and solution to the Holy Grail of beekeeping”.

    I have always thought there was a natural way to treat the parasitic mite Varroa. After 18 years without treatment of any chemicals or sugar in my hives I have found the answer and it is a “World Exclusive!“

    It didn’t start with the Varroa mite 20 years ago, what the Varroa mite did was escalate the problem to what beekeepers had done worldwide, but it did bring it to the attention of the media and mainstream public in the last few years, causing an over re-action due to Albert Einstein’s alleged quote.

    Honeybees started dying out when man found honey, tens of thousands of years ago, when man wanted to domesticate honeybees to harvest honey, putting them into logs, boxes, skeps eventually beehives but taking them away from their natural source of survival and requirements, which keeps their delicate micro-environment alive.

    The first common denominator for the demise of honeybees is………

    Mankind!….YES! Beekeepers now, and in the past, to the very first one!

    So what is the second common denominator?

    “I have found a natural phenomenon, the bees need it to survive to complete their micro-existent world, and is free. I am the first person in the world to combine honeybees with this phenomenon, so you can imagine how the chemical companies are going to react after spending millions around the globe“.

    “I have approached Universities and Beekeeping Organisations here, in the UK, and abroad, with my hypothesis but due to the infiltration of funding from chemical companies or others, Universities, Scientist, Professors or Scholars are unable to take my hypothesis due to inevitably losing their precious funding and being biased to a chemical or bacterial answer”.

    Yes! It is topical, political and controversial! One single person taking on the might of a billion-dollar pharmaceutical industry and the Hierarchy of the Beekeeping World with every beekeeper past and present being the reason for their demise and the answer being a natural phenomenon which is free to everyone.

    CCD (Colony Collapse Disorder) in the USA is also down to mankind for the demise of their honeybees having the same problems as us but with one extra reason that is only in the USA.

    Whatever you think after you have read my book, I will not be popular with any beekeeper, scientist, professor or anyone looking for a chemical or bacterial answer, but may, just may, stop honeybees dying out worldwide.

    That will be pleasing in itself. I am just a passionate beekeeper that has found an answer and solution. My book is a small part of the invisible world of the mysterious honeybee that is disappearing too quickly.

    “Albert Einstein did not say that famous quote about mankind dying out. It was a misquote from Albert “N” Stein an American beekeeper of the same era as Albert Einstein. However with accent, dialect and poor communication at that time it was misunderstood”.
    Second part; (IBRA Conference)

    An HOLISTIC Way in Saving The “Honeybee”
    Available from
    Northern Bee Books UK
    “http://www.groovycart.co.uk/beebooks”
    For discussion at the International Bee Research Association (IBRA) Conference
    held at the University Of Worcester on the 29th January 2011.
    Varroa-still a problem in the 21st century?
    Introduction

    My name is John Harding, I have kept, researched, experimented, observed and used logic and common sense in trying to keep as much to nature as possible while keeping honeybees. During the last 30 years I have invented bee equipment that does bare my name. I have not used sugar or chemicals for the past 18 years, due to the first approved licensed treatments killing a percentage of my queens.

    I hoped that one day I would find a natural remedy for the parasitic mite Varroa.
    This, I have now done.

    Explanation

    We know that honeybees have been on this planet for 100 to 200 million years depending which book you read, so honeybees have evolved with planet earth. This has brought with it changing climates, polarity change, a change in continents with moving earth plates and a change in flora. In all that time honeybees have been dealing with disease, mites, intruders and any other alien insect or animal, even man.

    Habitat

    During this time, their home has been in hollow trees, caves or covered protected position so they may get away from draughts, rain or severe weather to build their amazing honeycomb nest that is kept to an accurate temperature +or-1 degree to raise their numbers required for survival both in summer and winter.

    Mankind

    Thousands of years ago man found honey. Due to the honeybees perilous home positions being high in a cave or high up in a tree, man decided to re-home the honeybee into logs, boxes, skeps and then beehives so as to make it easier to harvest honey. A form of domestication.

    Has Man made a difference?………………..NO!

    Except for realising a unique space (Langstroth) that honeybees respect, meaning we as beekeepers can inspect our colonies with frames rather than killing off the bees, that were kept in a skep, then held over a sulphur pit to kill the bees just to get the honey. This observation only happened 150 years ago. Queen excluders were also invented.
    Are there any other major discoveries?………………..YES!

    Eddie Woods (a BBC sound engineer) discovered 60 years ago inside the honeybee nest that vibration levels was measured between 190hertz and 250hertz during normal conditions however when swarming this vibration went up to 300hertz.

    Was any scientific work carried out at the time or later?……………….NO!

    If it had we could be further along the path of understanding the honeybee better. Beekeeping today is much the same as it was in the beginning except of course the Langstroth frame space and Queen excluder.

    Have Beekeeping books changed?……………………NO!

    Except for the amount of knowledge that we have now gained about the mysterious honeybee, it always seems to be repetition but more in depth, more of a scientific language.

    Can we still learn from the honeybee?………………..YES!…………….HOW?

    Using observation, common sense and logic and asking “What do honeybees really want?”. They did not ask to be put into a box or beehive.

    However, while in our care, we, as beekeepers, should give them and treat them as if they were in a wild state of nature.

    We know they want and use vibration.(Woods)

    We know they will respect a unique space.(Langstroth)

    We know they use electromagnetic north/south in honeycomb building and in flight.

    We know with a strong colony, disease and varroa can be kept to a minimum.

    We also know with a colony of strength our rewards of honey is greater.

    So! What do honeybees really want?………..VIBRATION!………. How is it generated?

    At the moment by the honeybees themselves and they use this to communicate, to ward off predators and to keep their micro existent climate to a perfect temperature of 96 degrees fahrenheit plus or minus 1 degree when rearing brood (young larvae), but is this amount of vibration sufficient? Unfortunately NO!

    Can it be found elsewhere?…………YES!………………….Planet Earth (NASA)

    Planet earth has evolved, so trees, animals, plants, fish, birds and insects has evolved with it and so too, honeybees, evolving with planet earth. Which is why honeybees not only need a high vibration of 250hertz to sustain their microenvironment but actively look for it when swarming.
    How could man know this?

    You cannot see, feel, touch or sense this low vibration but honeybees can.
    Planet earth vibrates constantly at 7.83hertz (NASA) unless disturbed.
    Honeybees use vibration to get their microclimate between 190htz & 250htz (Woods).

    Honeybees are placed by man in a beehive where man wants it, if this is on 7.83htz honeybees have to work 31.9 times greater to get to their normal vibration levels just to stand still. I have reason to believe this weakens their immune system and defence mechanism becoming an easy target for any alien predators like Varroa.
    Now, not being able to cope, over-stressed, disorder with eventual collapse, dying or disappearance is inevitable.

    Does planet earth vibrate at this higher level of 250htz?…………..YES!

    Transmitted upwards through underground rivers.

    These rivers are everywhere around the planet, like, i.e.; blood vessels in our own body. Remember it has taken 4 billion years to get to where we are today. Everything has evolved together to be where it is and why it is there for a reason. The climate, planet earth and logic has dictated that.

    Where does the higher earth vibration come from and how?

    Planet earths normal vibration of 7.83htz gets interrupted by hollow chambers of running water/fluid creating friction allowing oscillation to resonate to become an Electromagnetic Wave Vibration which will increase it up to and above 250htz.

    Sound familiar? (The same vibration that honeybees require)

    The rivers/lines of fluid are normally very close to each other varying in depth and only being up to 4 feet wide, like a cobweb, zig zagging their way across the planet at depths of 200 feet or 300 feet creating vibration and rising upwards to the surface and skywards, creating an electromagnetic curtain that reaches to approximately 30,000 feet. (Birds use this curtain to migrate thousands of miles).

    I.e. There are 8 rivers/lines in my 3 bed detached house and 80 foot garden, so they are not miles apart.

    What is the connection of honeybee vibration 250hertz and Earth vibration 250hertz?

    We know that honeybees maintain 250htz vibration within their nests(Woods). It is just too much of a coincidence, using logic that bees are drawn to planet earth 250htz vibration when they swarm. Honeybees have evolved together with planet earth over millions of years so is using the higher earth vibration, which is compatible, giving honeybees less work to do, in getting to their optimum micro-existent environment.
    Honeybees need this higher vibration so they work 31.9 times less. Then are able to deal with any unwelcome intruders, like the Varroa mite, hence why honeybees are drawn to it in various ways.
    Are other species attracted to the higher vibration?…………..YES!

    All honeybees, Wasps, Bumble bees, Ants, Cats, Oak trees and much more are all attracted to and found above earths higher vibration. All organism are attracted to or repelled from these lines of high or low vibration.

    Are honeybees drawn to Planet Earth higher vibration? YES! In various ways.

    Swarms

    Yes, every time they swarm. Honeybees always settle above a 250htz line. This has been checked on every swarm collected, about 30, in the past 3 years.

    Bait hives

    All bait hives placed above a line attracted a swarm.

    Abandoned hives

    Whenever I was called out to inspect abandoned hives there was always one beehive above a line. This was the only hive with bees in and thriving. The others had died.

    Self selection

    Apiaries were left for 4 years to ascertain for self selection. After this time the only hives that survived, with little or no varroa were above a line, all the others had died.

    Varroa resistant strain

    In my early days of queen rearing I too thought I had a resistant strain only to find out every one that showed these qualities was above a line. I could not understand why they were so poor when moved to a new site, having shown perfect qualities when in the original site.(This was before I knew about the lines). Any beekeeper that thinks he/she has a Varroa resistant strain. I can guarantee will always be above a line.

    Feral Colonies

    They have not been killed off by Varroa, it was an assumption, not scientific. Beekeepers are to blame by putting hives in the wrong place where they die out with Varroa, so no swarms or feral colonies. Feral colonies are still out there surviving. Reduced in numbers, yes, but they are always found above a line. These feral colonies should never be moved unless insisted upon by the homeowner. They will die if moved or taken and put in the wrong position by man then overdosed by Varroa.

    Sheffield University

    I was invited by Ricarda Kather to explain my hypothesis, while there I checked their apiary without any prior knowledge not knowing which was the best or worst beehive as all looked identical. These I believe were used for Varroa hygiene. I found the two best beehives that gave the best hygienic results. These were above a line.
    Observations.
    Hygienic behaviour
    My apiaries have not changed during my beekeeping so observations have been made pre-lines, for queen rearing selection. During all these years Cleanliness, Varroa Resistance, Hygiene and Grooming have always been noticed to be far better than others within the same apiary not realising they were on a line.
    Honeybees can deal with Varroa when above a line.

    Honey yield
    When above a line the honey yield is always 2 or 3 times greater.

    Queens
    These colonies have tended to supersede rather than swarm. Clearly they are in the right place so why swarm?

    This does beg the question “Is swarming induced by man?” being put in the wrong place by man. How long have honeybees been trying to tell us?

    Case studies
    Case study 1 (within the same apiary)

    Take 2 hives of similar size and queen (“A/B“), both infected with Varroa, place “A” above a line, place “B” away from the line.

    Hive A; within 6 to 8 weeks this hive will have very little Varroa or none at all and thriving requiring supers.

    Hive B; after 6 to 8 weeks will still be heavily infected with Varroa and much weaker.

    Next season reverse these same two hives (if B is still alive) You will observe B becomes Varroa free and A is infected with Varroa.
    If you can use 2 apiaries within the same year, but far enough apart, the above exchange can be done after 3 months.

    Case study 2 (within the same apiary)

    Take 2 hives of similar size and queen (“C/D”), both infested with Varroa, place “C” above a line, place “D” away from the line.

    Hive C; within 6 to 8 weeks this hive will have very little or no Varroa (above as A).

    Hive D will be as B, heavily infected with Varroa.

    After 3 months change over the queens from C and D, becoming CD and DC.
    CD; You would imagine CD would improve D to be Varroa free, not so, it carries on being infected with Varroa. DC; Is still Varroa free.

    “I have used these case studies on countless occasions, with many infected hives, and the results always being the same”
    Conclusion for both case studies……….It is not strain or queen quality but position to where and what the beehive is placed above, an Electromagnetic Geopathic Stress Line that vibrates at 250hertz.

    Another question. Is it the honeybees dealing with Varroa or Varroa not liking the higher vibration?

    This is where I need a university or funding to help find many more answers!

    There will always be questions, especially to a way forward.
    (I have the answer for that to).

    This is just one question answered to stop honeybees dying.

    Thank you for reading my hypothesis which is in my book and available with the answer to Saving The Honeybee and the way forward.

    An HOLISTIC Way in Saving The “Honeybee”

    VARROA-STILL A PROBLEM IN THE 21ST CENTURY? NOT ANY MORE!

    John Harding

    Copyright John Harding 2009

    harding@clavies.freeserve.co.uk 07974121472 or 01384423557.

  5. faithmanon says:

    I went to my first backward beekeeping meeting this weekend in the pouring rain and there was a huge crowd of wonderful and incredibly generous people. Can’t wait to learn more, get my first hive and start helping out with this brilliant bunch of beekeeping misfits!

  6. Lynne says:

    I didn’t realize chemicals were used in beekeeping. Last year I saw what I think were honey bees for the first time in a long time here in Connecticut. A bunch of them were attracted to a plant I have in my yard called mountain mint.

  7. Anonymous says:

    I didn’t think that there was truly a native honey bee population in North America?

    • Rob Cruickshank says:

      You are correct. There are feral populations of honey bees, but they are native to Europe, not North America.
      There are of course, many native species of bees, including several species of bumblebees.

  8. Anonymous says:

    This should be front page news; *everywhere*.

  9. NY Bees says:

    I’m not a confrontational person, but regarding the comments of the “NYCBEEKEEPING DOT ORG” aka John Howe’s comment regarding a group with a “deliberately similar name” lets get our facts straight:

    1. We are not in “competition” with your group. There are a ton of different opinions in the beekeeping world and we believe that the more the merrier. Especially concerning swarms or feral bees.

    2. You changed your name from the NYC beekeeping MeetUp Group to NYCBeekeeping.org only a few months ago. Which is similar the Nyc-bees.org. We’ve been in existence for years as well and have over 700 supporters on Facebook and get a solid 50 people at our meetings. I dont think that it is wise to have a pissing contest between groups by riding our coattails and then being obnoxious about it.

    -David

  10. NY Bees says:

    I am trying to make a similar system for The NYC Beekeeper Association. http:nyc-bees.org So that we can track swarms for the upcoming season. I have to say that BB was a real inspiration. I love Kirk-O-Bees blog too.

    Re the earlier comment, there are feral honeybees in North America that have naturally reproduced usually from domesticated stock. Apis mellifera.

  11. Bitgod says:

    Would that be the Google Voice of the Beehive?

  12. Anonymous says:

    I just wanted to say that last spring I adopted a swarm that had landed on my neighbor’s shrub and they are now thriving. Go bees!

    May is prime swarm season. If you happen to see a swarm of bees congregating, do not be afraid to approach them as bees are very docile when in a swarm state. Contrary to what some might think, a swarm is not synonymous with “angry bees”.

    You can just take a stick and gently brush or shake them into a nice dark box. Be careful not to squish them. As long as you get the queen in there, the others will follow.

  13. Anonymous says:

    “Chemical free” beekeeping is another way of saying “medicine free” beekeeping. Apis Mellifera as a species has been under a lot of stress over the last couple of decades from diseases and imported parasites. This issue is similar to the vaccination issue, in that unprotected hives become a disease and parasite vector just like un-vaccinated children become a disease vector.

    Surely you love your grandparents more than your bees. Would you take away their medicine so that they could leave a “chemical free” life?

  14. joshhaglund says:

    I put this number in my phone years ago when I found it (quite possibly via a link on BB) and was so excited to have the opportunity to use it last summer. An area of pershing square had been safety-taped off with a swarm of bees in the middle, drooping from a tree branch. I called the bee rescue number, left a message and they called me back the next morning to report the bees had been safely moved to a new home!

  15. Anonymous says:

    The Santa Clara County Bee Guild also has a google voice # for reporting swarms. It is: 1-408-634-BEES (2337)

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