Comments on: Artist Ron English's April Fool's sign at US-Mexico border http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Wed, 19 Jun 2013 06:02:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1073409 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1073409 This seems more likely to offend the people crossing the border who won't necessarily "get" the joke than to actually make any critical commentary on American immigration policy. This seems more likely to offend the people crossing the border who won’t necessarily “get” the joke than to actually make any critical commentary on American immigration policy.

]]> By: travtastic http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1073154 travtastic Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1073154 It must take you a while to to come to any political conclusions in your life. You know, having to interview 300 million people to see which ones you agree with. It must take you a while to to come to any political conclusions in your life.

You know, having to interview 300 million people to see which ones you agree with.

]]> By: sidb http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1072908 sidb Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1072908 I'm no Tea Party fan, but I don't believe it's substantially driven by overt racism. Attempting to directly tie the photo to the Tea Party is divisive and will just make people defensively disengage their critical thinking rather than consider the photo's very real point. I’m no Tea Party fan, but I don’t believe it’s substantially driven by overt racism. Attempting to directly tie the photo to the Tea Party is divisive and will just make people defensively disengage their critical thinking rather than consider the photo’s very real point.

]]> By: jacques45 http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1072912 jacques45 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1072912 Atheists, the French, union workers, and liberals for starters. Atheists, the French, union workers, and liberals for starters.

]]> By: Soliloquy http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1072917 Soliloquy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1072917 What is up with Uncle Sam's eyes? They are freaking me out. Looks like someone partially melted his face. What is up with Uncle Sam’s eyes? They are freaking me out. Looks like someone partially melted his face.

]]> By: Teller http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1072924 Teller Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1072924 Heh. Love to know the shooting ratio on that POS. You wanna believe the country is one big Klavern, that's your business. But really, there's a big grab-bag country out there beyond the art circles. Mix in a car show. Do you some good. Heh. Love to know the shooting ratio on that POS. You wanna believe the country is one big Klavern, that’s your business. But really, there’s a big grab-bag country out there beyond the art circles. Mix in a car show. Do you some good.

]]> By: Joseph Hertzlinger http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1073181 Joseph Hertzlinger Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1073181 Speaking as a wingnut, my least-favorite leftist argument is the claim that "we must do this because other countries are doing this." I dislike it so much, that I even dislike it when our side uses the same argument. Speaking as a wingnut, my least-favorite leftist argument is the claim that “we must do this because other countries are doing this.” I dislike it so much, that I even dislike it when our side uses the same argument.

]]> By: frankieboy http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1073702 frankieboy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1073702 Color aside, they look like about 65% of adult Americans. Color aside, they look like about 65% of adult Americans.

]]> By: Outtacontext http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1072935 Outtacontext Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1072935 I'm white and I'm not even that color. Out I go! I’m white and I’m not even that color. Out I go!

]]> By: Teller http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1073447 Teller Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1073447 A medical vacation? Well that addresses the August issue for Conde Nast Traveler, but not my request: what countries make this country appear mired in "mediocrity and social dark ages"? Don't think Lichtenstein was meant seriously. Apologies if it was. A medical vacation? Well that addresses the August issue for Conde Nast Traveler, but not my request: what countries make this country appear mired in “mediocrity and social dark ages”? Don’t think Lichtenstein was meant seriously. Apologies if it was.

]]> By: ultranaut http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1073195 ultranaut Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1073195 What's wrong with that? Other countries do cool shit, America could do them too. What’s wrong with that? Other countries do cool shit, America could do them too.

]]> By: Donald Petersen http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1073200 Donald Petersen Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1073200 <blockquote>"we must do this because other countries are doing this."</blockquote> Could be you're slightly misunderstanding the argument. It's usually more along the lines of "we should do this because other countries have found that it works." Nobody argues that we should have nationalized health care, for example, simply because All The Fashionable Nations Are Doing It. The results are what counts, not the national flavor.

“we must do this because other countries are doing this.”

Could be you’re slightly misunderstanding the argument. It’s usually more along the lines of “we should do this because other countries have found that it works.” Nobody argues that we should have nationalized health care, for example, simply because All The Fashionable Nations Are Doing It. The results are what counts, not the national flavor.

]]> By: Mark Frauenfelder http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1072945 Mark Frauenfelder Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1072945 Your "car show" argument turned me around. There are no racists in the United States. Your “car show” argument turned me around. There are no racists in the United States.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1073714 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1073714 Another US Joker http://www.spike.com/video-clips/vc99v8/the-amazing-racist Another US Joker

http://www.spike.com/video-clips/vc99v8/the-amazing-racist

]]> By: wigg1es http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1072951 wigg1es Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1072951 Because she's going to have a real easy time earning citizenship, right? What's the waiting list now, like 15 years? Because she’s going to have a real easy time earning citizenship, right? What’s the waiting list now, like 15 years?

]]> By: grimc http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1072952 grimc Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1072952 <blockquote><a href ="http://www.newsweek.com/blogs/the-gaggle/2010/04/09/new-poll-finds-tea-partiers-have-more-racist-attitudes.html">"People who approve of the Tea Party, more than those who don't approve, have more racist attitudes," says Christopher Parker, a University of Washington professor who directed the survey. "And not only that, but more homophobic and xenophobic attitudes."</a></blockquote>

“People who approve of the Tea Party, more than those who don’t approve, have more racist attitudes,” says Christopher Parker, a University of Washington professor who directed the survey. “And not only that, but more homophobic and xenophobic attitudes.”

]]> By: spool32 http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1072954 spool32 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1072954 It's be easier and more efficient to title this post: "Two-Minutes Hate". Everybody groupthink - Tea Party bad! Progressives good! Two, four, six, eight, we know who we're meant to hate! It’s be easier and more efficient to title this post: “Two-Minutes Hate”.

Everybody groupthink – Tea Party bad! Progressives good! Two, four, six, eight, we know who we’re meant to hate!

]]> By: grimc http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1073466 grimc Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1073466 Defending your statement is your job, not mine, so thanks for nothing. <blockquote>however the study participants had the same opinion about white people, in the same percentages.</blockquote> 35% != 49% ("hardworking") and 45% != 59% ("intelligent"). Defending your statement is your job, not mine, so thanks for nothing.

however the study participants had the same opinion about white people, in the same percentages.

35% != 49% (“hardworking”) and 45% != 59% (“intelligent”).

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1072955 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1072955 haha, what a lark. Way to offend people crossing the border. Are you sure they get the joke? haha, what a lark. Way to offend people crossing the border. Are you sure they get the joke?

]]> By: genre slur http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1073724 genre slur Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1073724 In your opinion, would you say grimc is an illustration of 'whatever the Thinker Thinks, the Prover Proves', then? In your opinion, would you say grimc is an illustration of ‘whatever the Thinker Thinks, the Prover Proves’, then?

]]> By: spool32 http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1072957 spool32 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1072957 Parker's a biased witness - he has a dog in the hunt. Specifically, he's flogging a book with the exact same conclusion. Study Director Has Financial Interest in Study Results! Parker’s a biased witness – he has a dog in the hunt. Specifically, he’s flogging a book with the exact same conclusion.

Study Director Has Financial Interest in Study Results!

]]> By: laukarlueng http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1072959 laukarlueng Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1072959 Some progressives are for stealing oil, I mean, liberating Libya. All progressives believe the exact same things, therefore all progressives are for mass murder in Libya. See? I can be logical too... Some progressives are for stealing oil, I mean, liberating Libya. All progressives believe the exact same things, therefore all progressives are for mass murder in Libya.

See? I can be logical too…

]]> By: Teller http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1072964 Teller Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1072964 I'm with you. That's the fence that didn't need to get built. I’m with you. That’s the fence that didn’t need to get built.

]]> By: wigg1es http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1073225 wigg1es Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1073225 Right on. I'd much rather stay mired in mediocrity and the social dark ages than take the lead of other countries to actually better our standard of living. I mean, who would want that? Right on. I’d much rather stay mired in mediocrity and the social dark ages than take the lead of other countries to actually better our standard of living. I mean, who would want that?

]]> By: grimc http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1072973 grimc Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1072973 The part of your comment that tears apart the research methodology must've gotten lost in the tubes, because all that's left is something about a researcher writing a book based on his findings means the research is faulty, and that can't be your whole argument. It'd be stupid if it was. The part of your comment that tears apart the research methodology must’ve gotten lost in the tubes, because all that’s left is something about a researcher writing a book based on his findings means the research is faulty, and that can’t be your whole argument. It’d be stupid if it was.

]]> By: urpBurp http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1074253 urpBurp Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1074253 Mark, 100 times of saying who you are doesn't equal 1 time of showing what you are. I must be in the small minority that doesn't believe one side is completely evil and the other side completely good no matter what the actions are. You draw attention to a racist sign (not created by a Tea-Party member), then use it as a reason to condemn every Tea-Party member for the very same action. And yes, I know it was created as a jab. But that's like me proclaiming to be a pacifist then punching someone in the face and saying, "See, that's what those darn people over at Boing-Boing would like to do!" Utterly ridiculous. So it's OK to offend, belittle and harass minorities at the border as long as it's a stab at the people you hate??? Come on people, this ignorant hypocrisy stinks no matter what side it comes from. Mark,

100 times of saying who you are doesn’t equal 1 time of showing what you are.

I must be in the small minority that doesn’t believe one side is completely evil and the other side completely good no matter what the actions are. You draw attention to a racist sign (not created by a Tea-Party member), then use it as a reason to condemn every Tea-Party member for the very same action. And yes, I know it was created as a jab.

But that’s like me proclaiming to be a pacifist then punching someone in the face and saying, “See, that’s what those darn people over at Boing-Boing would like to do!”

Utterly ridiculous. So it’s OK to offend, belittle and harass minorities at the border as long as it’s a stab at the people you hate???

Come on people, this ignorant hypocrisy stinks no matter what side it comes from.

]]> By: genre slur http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1073230 genre slur Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1073230 As I said -- a good legal argument... and people tend not to admit to others that they are attempting to 'prove' something. Hey, they already think it! As I said — a good legal argument… and people tend not to admit to others that they are attempting to ‘prove’ something. Hey, they already think it!

]]> By: genre slur http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1073231 genre slur Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1073231 Yeah, he gets a boo. Good rant! Yeah, he gets a boo. Good rant!

]]> By: Teller http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1073233 Teller Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1073233 What "other countries" are so far advanced that by comparison this country is mired in "mediocrity and social dark ages"? Just making vacation plans and would like to know. What “other countries” are so far advanced that by comparison this country is mired in “mediocrity and social dark ages”? Just making vacation plans and would like to know.

]]> By: Bilwood http://boingboing.net/2011/04/02/artist-ron-englishs.html#comment-1073749 Bilwood Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1073749 Sidb: I read your statement "There's a higher prevalence of racism in the Tea Party, sure. That's true of Republicans too". I'm curious, what's your source for that statement? Sidb: I read your statement “There’s a higher prevalence of racism in the Tea Party, sure. That’s true of Republicans too”. I’m curious, what’s your source for that statement?

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