Woman who attacked Gauguin painting has a radio in her head

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"I feel that Gauguin is evil. He has nudity and is bad for the children. He has two women in the painting and it's very homosexual. I was trying to remove it. I think it should be burned. I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you." -- Susan Burns, art critic.

Looks like Michele Bachmann has some serious competition for the 2012 GOP presidential nomination!

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  1. I’d read about this earlier, but I didn’t catch this:

    top assistant at the congressionally-created Wilson Center

    I thought she was just some random mentally ill person off the street. I wonder if she’s got a tumor or something.

  2. Well, whether or not she has a radio in her head and is going to kill you, it’s profoundly sad. That poor woman.

  3. @donald

    aww maaaaaan. i was gonna have some fun with this comment, now i just feel sad for her, and think im kinda a dbag :(

  4. Yuri Maltsev, a russian economist who defected to the US, said that the Soviet Union would classify certain political statements that were off the party line as signs of a psychological disorder. It’s one of the reasons that I find similar behavior in the US political discourse of equating certain views to symptoms of mental illness disturbing. It makes it easier for us to simply tune out the views of others without confronting what they are saying. It’s rather cowardly in my opinion. I wouldn’t say that Bachman is crazy. Misguided, wrong, and statist are fair words that come to mind, though.

    1. I definitely agree. It’s important not to classify people like Michele Bachmann as crazy, because it trivializes the threat they pose. We should really be talking about Bachmann and co. in terms of being immoral and dangerous.

      Now as to for Ms. Burns, she does seem to be genuinely disturbed.

    2. Are you seriously joking?

      This isn’t simply a case of “it’s all relative”. Maybe if this were simply a matter of an extremely prudish statement coupled with a complete ignorance of historical dress you could try to make that case. You could *try* to make the case for moral relativism, and in which case I’d be here pointing to the fact that the piece is a representation of something that might actually have been seen in the south pacific and for freedom of expression.

      It’s the CIA/head radio/death threats part that says “schizophrenia”, and to politicize such a serious and very real illness is asinine. The fact that she might be that sick is very much a reason not to take the critique very seriously, let alone be critical of it though.

      1. Read again; I’m fairly sure laukarlueng meant that Michele Bachmann is not crazy. I suspect that he or she would agree that Susan Burns is experiencing some kind of disorder, likely schizophrenia. It is comparing Bachmann to Burns that represents a dangerous dismissal of non-crazy views.

    3. If she seems to be mentally ill, then it is terrible to equate her with Bachmann, who shows indication not of mental illness, but of willful ignorance, buffoonery and ethical depravity.
      The sick should be sympathized with and taken care of. The well who happen to be bad actors on the political stage should not.

    1. I think what she said is hilarious. And her public quote (made after attacking a significant piece of art) being shared with me has brightened my day at no cost to her.

      And who knows, maybe the extra publicity from this post will get her some help. Perhaps Charlie Sheen will read it and ask her out.

  5. What a beautiful painting. This unfortunate act of vandalism has reminded me that I need to get to a gallery.

  6. This woman may or may not have schizophrenia. It appears that she does have a delusional belief. Those can be caused by a number of disorders, or substances, or brain injuries. In any case, while attempting to destroy great art is wrong, making jokes about someone who is likely mentally ill is a little crass.

    1. It is mostly crass. There are few that don’t have a family member or friend impacted by some major mental illness. If you haven’t yet, you may still. Slowly and inevitably, you won’t see a joke.

  7. She’s obviously mentally ill. There has been a long history of delusional people attacking works of art.

  8. Nothing at all evil…I would prefer all waitresses dress that way. Now why is that TGF Friday manager scowling at my comment card?

  9. Well, I think that all those half-naked effigies of Christ hanging around on the cross are a bit indecent too, not proper clothes for a church service at all. Would it hurt to put some nice pants and a sweater on him? That loincloth doesn’t even look clean.

  10. Well, we could try to beam things into the radio in her head, but the CIA has exclusive rights to that frequency, and if you try to use it, they will come put a radio in your head.

    My tinfoil hat is tattered, I’m off to make a new one.

    Seriously though, I actually am schizo-affective, which is episodic schizophrenia. I go into it and come out of it, fortunately. Usually I can see when the onset is starting, and double up on my medication to try to prevent it.

    One doctor said that I should write a book about it, because not many schizophrenics lucidly remember the details of the psychosis as it happened – I said I will never do that because the thought process is not only disturbing, it is embarrassing.

    1. You might seriously consider your doctor’s suggestion. Your book may help many and not just those who suffer but those who suffer with them. I watched someone very close to me fall victim to a psychotic episode that bewildered doctors and terrified me. Six weeks of hospitalization, many years of therapy and lots of trial and error with medication put things back on track but the fear that it can happen again is always present.

      Some encouraging words from someone who had “been there” would have been a ray of hope to hold on to in a very dark time. I don’t know if it would be worth your while financially to write it but the pay off to others could be priceless.

  11. Ad a few have already mentioned, she is not well and probably off her meds. Many mentally/chemically imbalanced people go strange places when untreated and sadly, one of the biggest symptoms of the mentally ill is a belief that medication is unnecessary.

    Hopefully she was treated better than the squirrel which may or may not have been mentally imbalanced.

    1. Thanks, your ‘blog’ is hilarious. It reads like the incoherent rants of that Loughner psycho that America has forgotten about.

      1. Funny you say that due to the real science that is being used to back up every thing said in that blog. I just decided not to site exact works except for the few because the “flow” of it matched a particular intended style of (mock) FUD.

        By how the report read on “Susan Burns” (not like Homer Simpson had anything to due with her name) … you wonder where people got their “facts” that she is schizoid. That’s almost double schizoid to read such report and state such “fact”. I don’t think she is the one that needs meds.

        I think they tire of the “wake up” slogan (famous of ATS) and started to get more creative.

        Everybody, be sure to numb your paranoia and rid yourself of your senses. Big Pharma needs your money!

        1. I think the main complaint is that your blog post is rambling and incoherent. I attempted to read the whole thing, and I have NO idea what you’re arguing. The fact that the first five paragraphs are just one question after another, over, and over, and over, and over, doesn’t help. To be brutally honest, it’s badly-structured and does not show a coherent thread of logic. It’s all over the place. At this point, I’m not able to decide whether I agree or disagree with you because I don’t know what you’re trying to say. This is not meant as an insult, it’s constructive criticism, because if you want your blog to be read, you can’t challenge people with poorly-made content.

          1. “The fact that the first five paragraphs are just one question after another, over, and over, and over, and over, doesn’t help. To be brutally honest, it’s badly-structured and does not show a coherent thread of logic.”

            Exactly, represents the reflection of the situation. Wait, you think I should make that even more obvious. *sigh*

            The point is obvious at the end: “It’s not like Japan wasn’t almost wiped off the map… by human error.”

            It’s quite a human error to assume mental illness due to an act or quote. Anybody can rant all you want about how someone needs meds, yet it only proves how much propaganda Big Pharma has on *any like incident*. Do people ever not judge people as mentally ill, or do you actually think twice and say… hey… it could have been environmental interference… and it could happen to anybody.

            There is real science and implementations to back up concerns about environmental interference. No real science would ever back up someone as “mentally ill” based off any single incidence. Need real facts, not actors. If people believe someone is mentally that easy, then the real illness is with those people.

          2. “If people believe someone is mentally that easy, then the real illness is with those people.”

            If people believe someone is mentally *ill* that easy, then the real illness is with those people.

            Oh wait… that’s an incidence of dyslexia… better make sure people can rant on the needs of meds over such mental instability and chemical imbalances.

            If they worry that much of the needs meds… I’m surprised they don’t worry about the needs for devices to prevent any mental *cough* mishaps… through brain-wave interfereneces due to oh… only gamma-radition. That’s completely safe and harmless. Especially, when you consider how waves of light distributes itself and disturbs it’s own waves that further create spectrums of alpha, theta, gamma, waves. etc… etc… real science.

          3. I think if your comments here are an inidcation of the structure of the blog post then I’m glad I didn’t try to read it. Even your own quote from said blog post, “It’s not like Japan wasn’t almost wiped off the map… by human error.” is just terrible if you want to make a nice easily understandable point. “Japan was almost wiped off the map.. by human error” works so very much better. Anyway, your grasp of science cannot be questioned because your grasp of grammar doesn’t let us determine what your grasp of science may or may not be.

          4. I’m surprised you let passive usage “bother” you. Any ‘grammer and grammar expert knows passive usage is great to make your academic English teacher look redder than cherries on the face. Why did you even provide an example when you could have been simply even more concise?

            Figure-of-speech is like religious debates; it’s endless. No one would ever think anything different!

            You may want that thought about the real tragedy be reapplied back to it’s origin.

          5. Dzonatas, perhaps you’re unaware that everything you’ve posted doesn’t make any sense to everyone else, regardless of proper grammar (which I should point out *is* critical if you want people to understand you). It seems completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand, and your initial link to your blog post doesn’t even try to make a connection. What exactly is your point, and why are you trying to make it here?

            I tried to read your blog post. I looked at your twitter posts. It’s obvious you have a lot to say, but what exactly that is, I’m not sure. I don’t wish to be insensitive, but it all sounds like the incoherent rantings of a madman, frankly.

            As an aside, this comment thread is one of the most bizarre, yet fascinating, that I’ve seen on BB – or anywhere else, for that matter.

          6. “…but it all sounds like the incoherent rantings of a madman, frankly.”

            Exactly. Any madman would make such assumption, as you have.

            Your assumptions, however, wouldn’t help save children! While the children get carried off, you would obvious be more worried to critic how well the deaf people speak.

            And before you question “get carried off”… and some imaginary made-up madman…. go ahead.. I dare you to say I made this up!

            The questions is… could/would you save a life?

  12. Actually, I’d like to try to explain what I experienced, and I am sure I will experience again.

    Well, your psychotic beliefs and bonds with people (even if you have never even met the person) are seriously ingrained into your thought process. You see things from designs on the walls, to what you think people and things are from radio/music to movies/TV/and even news shows. Even though someone might not be directly speaking to the camera, you feel that they and/or the objects are trying to give you some sort of important message that you must decode. The problem with that is twofold; one you come to completely bizarre conclusions, and two you firmly believe in those conclusions, and cannot be persuaded to see it differently. Even worse, you may think that the person/s trying to help you is/are actually trying to harm you.

    Sometimes you feel a very strong desire to act upon those beliefs, regardless of the consequences, like this woman did.

    Not all schizophrenics are strait out paranoid, unlike her, but like me. The most dangerous thing I experienced, not only for myself, but much more so for other people, was that I thought I was invincible and unkillable. If you knew about the violence in my past (not only what I have done but what has been done to me and what I have been present to see what has been done to others) this is a very very very bad thing. I know this is a bit of ego speaking, but I am not a dummy either; I will think about what I am going to do and use my knowledge.

    That’s just a quick explanation – it goes much deeper than that. If I can give you somewhat of idea of what it is like, I would compare schizophrenia to LSD, where LSD is just a gum drop and schizophrenia is seven course meal.

    1. Actually you might compare paranoid schizophrenia to staying up a week on meth. By the end of which you’ll be having conversations with houseplants.

      Tryptamines are different.

    2. “one you come to completely bizarre conclusions, and two you firmly believe in those conclusions, and cannot be persuaded to see it differently.”

      and this does not describe Bachman?

    3. So, are you a psychopath and a schizophrenic? You mentioned that one doctor called you a psychopath, I believe. Maybe I misread. Those are two distinct diagnoses.

      I think your story is fascinating. If you don’t want to write a book, perhaps BoingBoing can give you a platform to write a couple of different essays regarding your episodes, anonymously. Of course they might have to verify your identity and story first. But I would find it absolutely riveting.

  13. I’d give almost anything to have Eleanor Roosevelt talk to me through the fillings in my teeth!

  14. The title of Art Critic should not be given to a women who lacks the communication skills to properly give an objective and intelligent opinion of this painting.

  15. The funny part is… Gauguin himself was almost exactly her age when he drank himself to death :P

  16. It is a ghastly but tenable proposition that the world is now ruled by the insane, whose increasing plurality will, in a few more generations, make probable the incarceration of all sane people born among them.
    -Clark Ashton Smith

  17. The disturbing part is that you all think schizophrenics are stupid.

    It is pitiful that a lot of you realize you cannot even begin to imagine what something like this is, and make off hand comments like “Or a gun.”

    Look up John Nash.

  18. I actually decided to read up on Nash myself, of which this only re-enforces what I wrote above:

    https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/John_Forbes_Nash,_Jr.

    Nash began to show signs of extreme paranoia and his wife later described his behavior as erratic, as he began speaking of characters like Charles Herman and William Parcher who were putting him in danger. Nash seemed to believe that all men who wore red ties were part of a communist conspiracy against him. Nash mailed letters to embassies in Washington, D.C., declaring that they were establishing a government.

    ….

    Although he took prescribed medication, Nash wrote later that he only took it under pressure. After 1970, he was never committed to the hospital again and refused any medication. According to Nash, the film A Beautiful Mind inaccurately showed him taking new atypical antipsychotics during this period. He attributed the depiction to the screenwriter (whose mother, he notes, was a psychiatrist), who was worried about encouraging people with the disorder to stop taking their medication. Others, however, have questioned whether the fabrication obscured a key question as to whether recovery from problems like Nash’s can actually be hindered by such drugs, and Nash has said they are overrated and that the adverse effects are not given enough consideration once someone is considered mentally ill. According to Sylvia Nasar, author of the book A Beautiful Mind, on which the movie was based, Nash recovered gradually with the passage of time. Encouraged by his then former wife, de Lardé, Nash worked in a communitarian setting where his eccentricities were accepted. De Lardé said of Nash, “it’s just a question of living a quiet life”.

    I like the part “it’s just a question of living a quiet life” because that is exactly what I do.

    1. On living a quiet life:

      All you have to do is hold down a job and not make
      a scene and you can have an arbitrary internal life.

      Try to keep the bumper stickers down.

      Sometimes refractory paranoids are told, ok, yes,
      we are watching you, so behave. It works, its obvious
      behavioral symptom-patching, not a cure, but everyone
      wins.

      Also: mental problems like many other visceral problems can fade on their own, but it can take
      months.

      Take an SSRI if you need it, it clamps the negative
      swings without modifying your OS (IMHO). Limbic
      zener.

  19. It is documented that I stayed up for 10 strait days in the hospital during my first episode.

    The physical hallucinations are the worst part; feeling someone poke you who is not there when you are just about to fall asleep. They were nice to me though, and I was allowed to sit in the “rubber room” which is usually called the side room, and read during the night when everyone was supposed to be in bed.

  20. Major Variola (ret) in reply to johnphantom

    On living a quiet life:

    ……….

    I’ll be truthful here. I am disabled, and the government gave me SSDI without any argument – I literally spent 15 minutes with one of their doctors, and because of my documented history going back to when I was a child, she essentially said, “Yeah, you’re nuts, here is disability.”

    The government pays me to stay home and not interact with people.

  21. the linked article says that burns has a “lengthy rap sheet”…
    so does that mean she’s been ill for a very long time, and keeps getting put into a cage instead of being treated?
    wealthiest part of the world and we’re STILL in the dark ages for the important stuff…

  22. Here is something else for you, Variola:

    I took an IQ test when I was in a well known and respected institution when I was 16. The guy who administered the test told my mother, “I wish he had actually tried.”

    I also took the MMPI when I was 16, at the same institution. I said to myself, “OK, you wanna test me?” and then gave my best effort to manipulate the results, which I succeeded in doing.

    Do not underestimate these people.

  23. Her statement is funny, her mental illness is not.

    Those of you who cannot see the humor in it need to lighten up, those of you who see ONLY the humor in it might want to work on your empathy.

    Those of you who can’t see both sides of this might want to do both.

  24. I don’t care about money, I get about $8400 a year to live on. I do my best to not abuse the medicare or medicaid I receive, because I know it is a gift.

    I think it is a crime that my medication costs over $400 a month, which you all pay for.

    I grew up with a very wealthy father, living on top of a mountain in a house with a guest house, etc, with a beautiful view of St. Thomas’ main harbor, where submarines, aircraft carriers and the QEII would sit off my front porch, literally. I wish I could post three of the pictures I have online, here.

    A now Rear Admiral when he was just a captain of an F14 squad on the Nimitz, would stay at our house when the Nimitz was in town. It was great as a 13 year old to get a private day long tour of the Nimitz, and not only be allowed to sit in the captain’s chair, but being told “don’t tell anyone, but you can sit in my F14.”

    Ever seen the green flash? It gets kind of passe after seeing a few times, because your view over the two hills far off is unblocked by anything beyond it.

    I truly am grateful for what I have, and I can say I am more at peace than I have ever been in my life.

  25. wrote by johnphantom #23

    “One doctor said that I should write a book about it, because not many schizophrenics lucidly remember the details of the psychosis as it happened – I said I will never do that because the thought process is not only disturbing, it is embarrassing”

    A very enlightening quote that I wish more people would admit to. Myself included.

  26. Wow, finished reading the rest of your comments johnphantom. Thank you for elaborating. Thought that I agreed with you, but apparently my expreiences shadow in comparison. Once again, thanks for the insights.

  27. There is one other thing I would like to talk about, concerning the doctors, and lesser the medication.

    I developed a good, mutually respectful relationship with a very intelligent doctor who has believes in many ethics, and more importantly, a strong set of morals, over ten years.

    Not too long ago, he told me that he had to say this in person to me, and said, “I am leaving the medication clinic to work directly with emergency mentally ill patients at such_and_so_hospital”

    This killed me. I knew I would never see him again, and gave him a hug. I almost cried. He tried to console me by saying, “Hey, maybe you’ll get locked up there and I will see you again!”

    My new doctor, a typical idiot psychologist, and trust me, I don’t know how many I have seen, treats me like an idiot psychopath. I may be a psychopath, but I am not an idiot.

    My old doctor and I worked out a regiment of medication over those ten years. The first thing this new guy says to me, is, “Dr. ________ has an unorthodox regiment of medication for you. I am going to change that.”

    I will comply with what he wants, and not try to manipulate him, because I don’t want to jepordize my SSDI/Medicare/Medicade.

    If he realized I was trying to manipulate him, I understand that he is the type of person I would have to immediately, and ruthlessly, beat into the ground – and no, jail does not concern me, I’ve been there plenty of times for a good amount of time.

    Hell, I got the chance to build my own cell, that I sit in isolation right now, with my only outlet being my computer and the Internet.

    I don’t like this, but I will live with it.

  28. odd, I’m gay and do not find the painting gay in the slightest. the woman simply peers into the basket of the other. Of course, I am a guy so the beauty of finer points of female anatomy may escape me.

  29. I really don’t mean to frighten anybody, and this is why I don’t want to write about it – because of what you will see what others and I am, and more importantly, what you are too.

  30. Just read all the comments, and they leave me in a quandary.
    I’m sorry, johnphantom, I’m bringing up politics again, but not for political reasons.
    I do hope you understand.

    It’s only Sarah Burns’ statement that allows people to make claims about her mental state, not the action she took. It’s a very strange world where the actual attempt to destroy a Gauguin is only noteworthy for a comment made by the perpetrator that they have a radio in their head.

    So…

    I bring you the recent behavior of (the supposedly sane) Governor Paul LePage of Maine.

    http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2011/04/belaboring-the-representation-of-history-in-maine/

    Recently he had a mural about labor history removed from the Department of Labor building. He may not have rushed it himself, but his attack was more successful (in the short term) than Sarah Burns’. He actually got it down. Afterward, he may not have blamed it on a radio in his head, but he did claim that the mural was propaganda, like you’ll find in “communist North Korea, where they use these murals to brainwash the masses.”

    You don’t have to be paranoid to be crazy.
    You don’t have to be crazy to be paranoid.

    I think it’s important to remember that when we laugh at quirky stories about mental illness, in an age of halogen lights, we’re simply whistling in the dark.

    1. Yeah, except she will only cut your ear off, if your lucky.

      catgrin, I would like to change the subject, thank you :)

  31. Oh yeah, mangos. I developed an allergy to them, after spending a day on climbing an at least 40′ very old mango tree collecting them.

    They are part of the poison ivy family.

  32. Please forgive me, but, I would like to know if any of you know how important coconuts are in a life threatening situation, never mind that they are a source of water.

    …coconut milk can be used as a substitute for human plasma. If you were bleeding to death, and I had a sterile bag of saline solution and a coconut, I would forget about the saline, and split that coconut open and plug your ass into it.

  33. Yeah I had to go back up that last statement:

    “During World War II when blood supplies were running low, doctors discovered that the liquid inside young coconuts can be used as a substitute for blood plasma. India’s National Newspaper, Monday, Nov 24, 2003 states:

    “It (coconut juice) is also considered a close substitute for blood plasma since it is sterile, cool, easily absorbed by the body and does not destroy red blood cells. To quote Morton Satin, Chief of Food and Agricultural Organisation’s Agricultural Industries and Post Harvest Management Service: “It is a natural isotonic beverage with the same level of electrolytic balance as we have in our blood. It is the fluid of life, so to speak.”

    The problem I would have is having to make one of two choices: either explain to the person/s arguing with me that they would have to STFU or I would get violent, or watch you bleed to death.

    I don’t like either of those choices.

    1. Pity about the mangos. I’m quite of fond them.

      You’re right about coconuts. They’re surprisingly useful for all kinds of things, and appear in all sorts of places – and not just as a foodstuff. A quick check of wikipedia will give the curious reader some insight into the wide world of “pokok seribu guna” (“the tree of a thousand uses”).

      What’s interesting to me is the same thing that makes the flesh of the coconut so hard to get at (the stone-like husk) protects the coconut water in a sterile environment, so they can be collected, carried to a location where they’re needed, and safely stored for use. Before the development of modern plastics, coconuts actually made great sense as a back-up plan in case glassware holding sterile fluids was damaged. Really a terrific design!

  34. rks1157 in reply to johnphantom

    You might seriously consider your doctor’s suggestion. Your book may help many and not just those who suffer but those who suffer with them. I watched someone very close to me fall victim to a psychotic episode that bewildered doctors and terrified me.

    ———–

    Yeah I know I have a OCD. There is something that you should all know about my first episode, to try to understand what schizophrenia is and what the doctors think about it.

    Dr. T_____, a very good, kind and intelligent doctor and not the same person as I spoke of above, at the same government run community facility, said to my mother, “He is the worst case we have ever seen. He is not going to come back.” essentially preparing her for institutionalizing me for the rest of my life, which she definitely did not want to do.

  35. Eh, I know I am ranting, but I would like to give you all more of an insight into schizophrenia, and more importantly, what all of our minds are.

    Most of you make fun of this woman and her unfortunate circumstances, but the reality is that if you piss her off, she is going to think about how to deal with you, even if she only has 10 seconds and she is stupid. Mark that, because a person like this will give you a particular look as they consider what they are going to do, whether or not they are insane at the time. The next thing that happens, barring if your unlucky and she lets you live and goes after whatever you love, is that you are lucky and you are dead.

    I am always kind to people like this when I am in institutions, not only because I know where they are coming from, but because if I give them respect and compassion they will like me.

    How would you like to have a team of insane suicidal people behind you? The “terrorists” know what this is, as well as the military and agencies like the CIA, MI6, Mossad, and the old Soviet KGB. I know that is a very broad and insane way of looking at it, but it is reality – just look at 9/11

    I suppose this is psychotic, right? You should all understand that everything has its price, from the cheap ethics to the much more expensive morals – it is just a case of finding the price.

    This is a very cruel way of putting it, but: You know that movie “Platoon”? Barns was the antagonist, and in everybody’s eyes, he died a justifiable death in the end. It all centers on the part where he was interrogating the village elder, who was harboring the enemy, by shooting the Elder’s wife in the head to prove what he was, and then holding the Elder’s 8 year old little girl with a .45 to her head, to get information

    The problem is that he and his platoon needed that information, and as much as I would hate to do something like that, if it meant my life, I would do it too.

    God I would love to explain psychology to psychologists. Dr. B_____ questioned and listened to me for 10 years and decided to go help the worst off, and I respect that.

    Advice for when dealing with the mentally ill:

    Don’t try to change their minds. Don’t be a fucking glazed donut. Don’t try to compete with their reasoning. Tell the truth, in a non-condescending way. Be as non-confrontational as possible. Talk about what they want to talk about, and try to lead them to sense, without showing that you are trying to do that.

  36. BB:

    So, are you a psychopath and a schizophrenic? You mentioned that one doctor called you a psychopath, I believe. Maybe I misread. Those are two distinct diagnoses.

    ——

    My new doctor did not call me a psychopath, but I know that is what he considers me. Maybe, but doubtfully, he read into my history. He specifically told me that he knew who I was, when I asked him if he was new, and told me he had been around for a long time there. He was so unremarkable that I don’t even remember his face. I know now that my old doctor did not include him in sharing me with other doctors, because of what he is.

    OK I’ll put it bluntly. He is a CCCP West Europe Dr., who immigrated to the USA. I don’t have any problem with that; in fact I admire it, because I can sort of imagine what he had to go through. The problem I have is that he is arrogant like most doctors, but also has seen real hardship. That is why I say, “I understand that he is the type of person I would have to immediately, and ruthlessly, beat into the ground” – and he is not an unfit marshmallow.

    I specifically manipulated the MMPI to show I was a pschopath, because it was a game to me.

    Do you think, by what I have written here, I am a psycopath?

    That is what is wrong. Catagorizing things is fine to help define problems, no matter what is wrong, but all of life is a whole.

    As far as writing a book, I release all copyrights I have to anything I have written here. I will never consciously release who I am, and I know that can be found. Use whatever you want, if you wish.

    1. “Do you think, by what I have written here, I am a psycopath?”

      No, not at all. That is why I was somewhat perplexed.

      I have no intention of using anything here, except to gain knowledge.

      1. BB in reply to johnphantom

        “Do you think, by what I have written here, I am a psycopath?”

        No, not at all. That is why I was somewhat perplexed.

        __________________

        Please, I enjoy your questioning, and I am not trying to put you down. I may be the most stupid person on the planet, but I know every person and every animal and every thing that exists has something to teach me.

        Start by analysing your beasts.

        I if you can get your animals to speak to you, and understand what they are asking for, then you may be a master :)

        Here are some things I wrote, the third one is not relevant, but I want to include it:

        Information is information. You, I and all need it. Opinions might have transgressions, but raw information is impartial.

        How to deal with people: logic and reasoning that uses emotions without emotion.

        My words are only nibbles, and I really don’t know long words.

        ———–

        The second one is why I know I am a psychopath.

        1. johnphantom, you seem pretty social. I doubt you are any psychopath. Maybe bipolar (genes) by your expression, yet not psychopath by example of your acts.

          Words like psychopath and schizoid have aren’t supported anymore in newer schools of thought… unless they carry some obvious Big Pharma agenda.

          Genetic studies have replaced outdated impressions.

    2. “I specifically manipulated the MMPI to show I was a pschopath, because it was a game to me.

      Do you think, by what I have written here, I am a psycopath?”

      I don’t rightly know, but I do know without a doubt that there are some charming people who have issues discerning “games” from “reality”.

      1. mausium in reply to johnphantom

        “I specifically manipulated the MMPI to show I was a pschopath, because it was a game to me.

        Do you think, by what I have written here, I am a psycopath?”

        I don’t rightly know, but I do know without a doubt that there are some charming people who have issues discerning “games” from “reality”.

        ———————–

        OK, let me put it to you this way: say you’re in a bar, and you see some attractive woman (or man, I don’t know the information here) what do you do? What is it that you do to try to get that persons attention?

  37. “I’m an American. I have a radio in my head. I’m going to kill you.” Priceless, I must make a point of using this in some conversation every day! Maybe she is referring to her San Disc player’s fm band?

  38. The obvious fact remains, if you only heard their words and didn’t see the painting, you wouldn’t notice the large bowl of cherries.

      1. DO YOU GET THE FEELING THAT THIS IS BLACK & WHITE YET BECAUSE YOU SAID BLACK THAT IS MORE IMPORT THAN #MISSING

        I’M STUCK IN CAPS FOR SOME REASON DESPITE I CAN’T YELL LOUD ENOUGH ABOUT #MISSING CHILDREN BECAUSE I AM DEAF ON TTY

        PERHAPS HUBBARD REALIZED THIS ABOUT XENOPHOBES
        THAT WHITE CHILDREN CARRIED AWAY BY BLACK MAN IS QUITE SUSPICIOUS EXCEPT TO THOSE THAT COULD NOT SPEAK UP DUE TO RACIST ISSUES

        THERE ARE OBVIOUS MENTAL PROBLEMS AND THERE ARE OBVIOUS PROBLEMS THAT ARE NOT MENTAL

  39. Are they lesbians because they are exposing their breasts? In that case there were a lot of lesbians at Mardi Gras this year.

  40. She buried the lead. Had she opened with “I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.” They would have taken what followed more seriously.

  41. I think the real tragedy is she picked on Gaugin and not one of those rather commonly found artists who manage to be famous while making utter crap.

  42. See the book “Welcome Silence: My Triumph Over Schizophrenia” by Carol North MD. It includes her memories of the horrific subjective experience of schizophrenia, corroborated by hospital notes/records from the time.

    See also the “Faces of Abnormal Psychology” website for interviews with people that give insight into “what it’s like” to experience various mental illnesses. http://www.mhhe.com/socscience/psychology/faces/

  43. I THINK WE CAN USE TWITTER AS USE-CASE/FOIA ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BLOCK BEFORE THEY ADD

    DO YOU THINK THAT REFLECTS ON UNFIT PARENTS???

    IN ANYWAY POSSIBLE????

    CAN YOU POSSIBLY THINK OF SOMETHING OF HOW THOSE RELATE?

    ARE YOU THINKING?

    OR JUST PROGRAMMED TO COMPLAIN…

    …MAYBE YOU TRUST CAPTCHA TOO MUCH

    MAYBE CAPTCHA AND CAPTURED CHILDREN HAVE SOMETHING IN COMMON
    ESPECIALLY ABOUT LEARNING HOW TO READ

      1. Ha ha oh wow.

        I was not expecting that kind of crazy when I criticized that blog post, but I guess it was written exactly as intended.

        1. elix

          Ha ha oh wow.

          I was not expecting that kind of crazy when I criticized that blog post, but I guess it was written exactly as intended.

          ————————

          ‘m gng blnt hr gn, y stpd fck.

          “that kind of crazy” is what you are capable of, and more than likely you will see in someone you care about go through that in your life.

          You have no clue as to what the psyche is.

          This ^^^^^^^ is why I won’t bother to take the time to write a book about it.

          1. Um, I think you kind of misunderstand what I meant. For whatever reason, Dzonatas does not seem to write coherently, and this makes he or she difficult to understand. I criticized a blog post for being too difficult to read, and I made it clear, since other commenters had been a bit more gentle about it and Dzonatas was obviously missing the point.

            I am in no way mocking any legitimate mental health issues Dzonatas may have. I’m quite used to terrible writing skills from perfectly sane people who just don’t put the time in to write coherent, logical pieces and instead just spew out whatever comes out of their head and say “that’ll do,” regardless of if it makes any sense to anyone else. There is a definite difference between clinical disorders and just not being able to communicate a clear line of thought, and I’m well aware of this. I was referring to the latter, not the former. If I’ve offended you, I apologize.

            As far as not knowing what the psyche is, my gender-dysphoric partner with dissociative identity disorder may disagree with that. But, feel free to retain your first impression of me.

  44. I just want to clarify what I meant by animals speaking to you:

    I am certainly not saying that they will sit down and have a conversation with you. You can tell by the tone of their voice what they want. For instance, I have a cat that comes to me, every morning at 5AM, and by the tone of his voice and how he looks at me, I know he wants to go outside to get an early start on hunting.

    I get up, and he charges down the stairs ahead of me, to the door.

    If you have animals, then you see what that is.

  45. Reading these comments makes me think about how poorly adjusted our society is to mental illness.

    How do we judge the actions of the mentally ill? Are they responsible for their conduct? If they aren’t, isn’t that stripping a person of a great deal of their humanity? I think so.

    Mentally ill people have to learn to cope, and compensate for their debilitations, same as anyone. They also need to be held accountable for their actions… even their unintentional humor.

  46. I think we’re all schizophrenic, every night, as we fall asleep. I think mental illness is a sleep disorder. To be mentally ill, to be delusional, is to experience a waking dream.

    “Normals” wake up every morning, and their brains snap back to normal.

    A sleep study, one that studies brain waves, would reveal abnormal sleep architecture.

    We all need normal sleep architecture, to remain “sane.” Someday, doctors will come up with something to correct abnormal sleep architecture.

  47. I’d like to get a little bit deeper.

    I have had many animals, that I really don’t want to try to count right now, most of which were rescue animals.

    The cat I mentioned above likes to hunt, because that is his game. Last night, while I was typing all of the above shit, my other cat, a 24 pound lazy ass, was in the hall playing with a live lizard that the first cat brought home.

    I morally do not like that; I would have liked to have put the lizard out of its misery, but that is the two cat’s game. I am not going to admonish either for what they instinctually do, which is natural to them, and to all of us. The difference is that we could possibly see that is not the proper thing to do.

    Don’t play with your food.

  48. I’m too lazy to do the internet grunt work, but is there a recorded mass-psychosis that involves the CIA and frequencies in people’s heads? Like the Dan Rather/REM “What’s the Frequency Kenneth?” I ask because of this true story:
    I come from a small rural community 2hrs north of DC. People from my HS class of 20yrs ago are active together on Facebook. One gentlemen who left the area for the bright lights of DC (where the woman in question lives?) started making comments on our HS FB page starting last November about how he worked for the CIA and their was a “medallion” in his head that emitted frequencies, and that he’s angry with us (who he hasn’t seen in 20yrs) because we’ve been messing with his CIA frequency. He’s been carrying on like this for a few months and it’s not a joke, he’s ill and needs help. But then today I see this article – a women in DC claiming to work for the CIA and frequencies in her head.

    The paralleles to me are fascinating as well as the close timeframe that they both happen to corss my radar – but I don’t expect them to be interesting for anyone else because they don’t have a frame of reference for a perfectly normal HS classmate to begin espoucing “crazy ideas” in public forums, that also happen to show up in the news. Coincidences like this happen all the time I’m sure, but I wanted to document it here to pose the question for anyone that knows academically about Mass Hysteria…what are the odds of two strangers having the same psychosis being so specifically related?

    1. The first thing I wrote was:

      “Well, we could try to beam things into the radio in her head, but the CIA has exclusive rights to that frequency, and if you try to use it, they will come put a radio in your head.

      My tinfoil hat is tattered, I’m off to make a new one.”

      That was not exactly a joke, and no, I do not have a CIA controlled radio in my head. Go back and read what I wrote.

  49. The bible is full of hate speech, rape, murder and genocide.

    Obviously it should be banned.

  50. I need to point something else out, too:

    John Nash’s work with Game Theory does not just apply to economics, and I truly believe he would say strait to your face, if you asked him, that it applies to life.

  51. Rob “Mentally ill people have to learn to cope”

    Well you need to think about that when some bum asks you for a dollar to buy a bottle of Cisco.

  52. Actually, that above statement really pisses me off. Go watch “Ground Hog Day” and how the asshole central character decided to try to help some bum.

  53. Um, I think you kind of misunderstand what I meant. For whatever reason, Dzonatas does not seem to write coherently…

    As far as not knowing what the psyche is, my gender-dysphoric partner with dissociative identity disorder may disagree with that.

    ——————————-

    Look at that and think about it.

  54. Whether the woman actually is mentally ill or not, she definitely needs to be evaluated. Because “I have a government transmitter in my head” + “death threat” is a classic indicator of the kind of mental illness where other people often do get harmed, it CANNOT be reponsibly ignored.

    And I say this as someone who is a depression/anxiety sufferer who also has asthma, and is currently on prednisone thanks to the asthma + bronchitis. I can feel the prednisone making me what I feel as “crazy” at times, as opposed to the “suffering” of my normal problems. It’s terrifying even from the inside… and ignoring the signs of mental illness is incredibly harmful to the person and everyone around them, even in the classes of mental illness where you’re far more likely to hurt yourself than others.

  55. Thank you BB for attracting such as have contributed here. To share in a community of discourse like this is I didn’t imagine I’d get as much from the commentators as from the blog when I got hooked!

  56. Radio in her head?

    Here’s a song about it:

    It seems one hears a lot about radios in people’s heads, since about 1920 or so…that must really suck, if you cannot turn it off, or at least change the channel.

  57. …or should I say ‘station” in place of “channel”?

    Oh well I’m part of the TV generation, I guess:

  58. Wow! Awesomely weird thread. Entertaining yet disturbing.
    Too bad my schizophrenic brother only writes in tiny unreadable handwriting.

    A hint: Everybody else plays the lead-role in their movie also.

    Can I get internets in mine please? Radio is so 20th century.

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