Comments on: Counterfeit gadget trade surges http://boingboing.net/2011/04/14/counterfeit-gadget-t.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sat, 18 May 2013 09:45:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: bcsizemo http://boingboing.net/2011/04/14/counterfeit-gadget-t.html#comment-1082918 bcsizemo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1082918 Is the other driving force the decreasing level of quality from all the big vendors that use to make really reputable products from the late 90's, and thus leading to razor thin margins. I'm not sure the knock offs have gotten substantially better (well thanks to better IC stuff they have), but I know a lot of name brand audio equipment has went from nicer to mediocre over the last decade. Is the other driving force the decreasing level of quality from all the big vendors that use to make really reputable products from the late 90′s, and thus leading to razor thin margins.

I’m not sure the knock offs have gotten substantially better (well thanks to better IC stuff they have), but I know a lot of name brand audio equipment has went from nicer to mediocre over the last decade.

]]> By: KanedaJones http://boingboing.net/2011/04/14/counterfeit-gadget-t.html#comment-1083003 KanedaJones Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1083003 @bcsizemo Had a friend who was a loyal sony fan back in the day when that meant something.. I saw what he saw in them I just couldn't afford sony. suddenly one day I could afford sony and it wasn't worth buying it. just wait till the 3D printers become common.. @bcsizemo

Had a friend who was a loyal sony fan back in the day when that meant something.. I saw what he saw in them I just couldn’t afford sony.

suddenly one day I could afford sony and it wasn’t worth buying it.

just wait till the 3D printers become common..

]]> By: philipb http://boingboing.net/2011/04/14/counterfeit-gadget-t.html#comment-1083012 philipb Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1083012 1,200 items? I've seen more than that at a single vendor stall in Shanghai. Sounds like window dressing to me. 1,200 items? I’ve seen more than that at a single vendor stall in Shanghai. Sounds like window dressing to me.

]]> By: spejic http://boingboing.net/2011/04/14/counterfeit-gadget-t.html#comment-1083288 spejic Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1083288 Does this really matter? I mean, you can't stop this, so why even try? All you do is inconvenience people around the factory with the police raid. And there might be people using the factory for legal stuff - maybe they just came in to use the bathroom. That's a lot of rights being broken to no real good end. Because that's what's important - rights. And me getting dirt cheap Blu-Ray players. But mostly rights if anyone asks. Material wants to be free. We should prepare for the new economy. Product designers will be funded by charity or wacky tee-shirts or something. I don't know. I'll leave the details to those that need money. All I do know is that we should destroy the old material economy first. Or better yet, why don't we start a free-products movement. We could get all the best designers in the world and have them work without pay on making a free 70's era VCR. But it will be, like, cool. Does this really matter? I mean, you can’t stop this, so why even try? All you do is inconvenience people around the factory with the police raid. And there might be people using the factory for legal stuff – maybe they just came in to use the bathroom. That’s a lot of rights being broken to no real good end. Because that’s what’s important – rights. And me getting dirt cheap Blu-Ray players. But mostly rights if anyone asks.

Material wants to be free. We should prepare for the new economy. Product designers will be funded by charity or wacky tee-shirts or something. I don’t know. I’ll leave the details to those that need money. All I do know is that we should destroy the old material economy first.

Or better yet, why don’t we start a free-products movement. We could get all the best designers in the world and have them work without pay on making a free 70′s era VCR. But it will be, like, cool.

]]> By: nate_freewheel http://boingboing.net/2011/04/14/counterfeit-gadget-t.html#comment-1083310 nate_freewheel Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1083310 As a product designer, I can tell you with some certainty that most of the worthless junk being "designed" today relies upon hype and image more than superior form or function. It's only the expendable companies that aren't contributing much to the marketplace that really have something to worry about with counterfeiting. As a product designer, I can tell you with some certainty that most of the worthless junk being “designed” today relies upon hype and image more than superior form or function. It’s only the expendable companies that aren’t contributing much to the marketplace that really have something to worry about with counterfeiting.

]]> By: dr http://boingboing.net/2011/04/14/counterfeit-gadget-t.html#comment-1083314 dr Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1083314 While I'm not going to defend Monster Cables, for any piece of audio gear that has actual electronic components inside there can be a big (and audible) difference between the quality of a fake and genuine item. For example, there is a booming business right now in China in counterfeit electrolytic capacitors. (See http://diy-fever.com/misc/fake-capacitors/ for a typical photo. These were first discovered by electronics hobbyists tracking down reliability problems in their gear.) While I’m not going to defend Monster Cables, for any piece of audio gear that has actual electronic components inside there can be a big (and audible) difference between the quality of a fake and genuine item. For example, there is a booming business right now in China in counterfeit electrolytic capacitors. (See http://diy-fever.com/misc/fake-capacitors/ for a typical photo. These were first discovered by electronics hobbyists tracking down reliability problems in their gear.)

]]> By: jerwin http://boingboing.net/2011/04/14/counterfeit-gadget-t.html#comment-1083063 jerwin Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1083063 Oh no! Those Monster Cables might be fake! Oh no! Those Monster Cables might be fake!

]]> By: Robert http://boingboing.net/2011/04/14/counterfeit-gadget-t.html#comment-1083087 Robert Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1083087 I see what you did there, unintentionally. I see what you did there, unintentionally.

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