Comments on: Venn diagram of "shenanigans" http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sat, 25 May 2013 08:44:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098262 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098262 I agree with Anon - there should be a large overlap with stupid and dangerous. I agree with Anon – there should be a large overlap with stupid and dangerous.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1106985 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1106985 Yes, the overlap between dangerous and sstupid would have to be "Jackass" IMHO. Yes, the overlap between dangerous and sstupid would have to be “Jackass” IMHO.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098043 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098043 Shouldn't there be some overlap between dangerous and stupid? Shouldn’t there be some overlap between dangerous and stupid?

]]> By: MajorMattMason http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098049 MajorMattMason Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098049 That needs to be made into a T-Shirt, stat. (Or expanded into an xkcd strip.) That needs to be made into a T-Shirt, stat. (Or expanded into an xkcd strip.)

]]> By: BookGuy http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098055 BookGuy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098055 I think this could easily be adapted to become an org chart/mission statement for the company I currently work for. And most corporations, I suspect. I think this could easily be adapted to become an org chart/mission statement for the company I currently work for. And most corporations, I suspect.

]]> By: Aknaton http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098058 Aknaton Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098058 The ones in here, I call shenanigans. The ones in here, I call shenanigans.

]]> By: Nelson.C http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098060 Nelson.C Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098060 I'm sure they've missed an intersection between stupid and dangerous, not to mention stupid, dangerous and bad. I’m sure they’ve missed an intersection between stupid and dangerous, not to mention stupid, dangerous and bad.

]]> By: bwcbwc http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098062 bwcbwc Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098062 There needs to be an overlap between "stupid" and "dangerous". That's where the Darwin Awards come in. And it seems like there should be an overlap between "silly" and "stupid" too. Maybe like lousy jokes in TV ads, or cute but stupid kid videos? There needs to be an overlap between “stupid” and “dangerous”. That’s where the Darwin Awards come in.

And it seems like there should be an overlap between “silly” and “stupid” too. Maybe like lousy jokes in TV ads, or cute but stupid kid videos?

]]> By: bwcbwc http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098063 bwcbwc Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098063 Parent spam. Parent spam.

]]> By: Chong http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098066 Chong Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098066 Where are 'evil' shenanigans? /I swear to God I'm going to pistol whip the next guy to say "Shenanigans". Where are ‘evil’ shenanigans?

/I swear to God I’m going to pistol whip the next guy to say “Shenanigans”.

]]> By: peterbruells http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098069 peterbruells Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098069 Okay, my first question would be, if "bad" has been sufficiently defined. I mean "bad driver", "bad taste", "bad person" and "bad harvest" can be expressed with different synonyms. A "bad driver" isn't an "evil driver", for example. Okay, my first question would be, if “bad” has been sufficiently defined. I mean “bad driver”, “bad taste”, “bad person” and “bad harvest” can be expressed with different synonyms. A “bad driver” isn’t an “evil driver”, for example.

]]> By: noah django http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1099097 noah django Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1099097 Hey, Farva! What's the name of that place you like with the blooming onions and all the wacky signs hanging everywhere? anyway, I love the word "shenanigans", but had always assumed it was a Yiddish word. Nope. Looked it up about a year ago (yes, I have 3 dictionaries at home. What?) New Oxford Am Dictionary (on Mac): Origin unknown Miriam Webster's Collegiate 10th ed: Origin unknown Webster's New World 3rd collegiate ed: (paraphrasing from memory) from the Iroqois "to behave like the fox" if that's wrong, I don't wanna be right. Hey, Farva! What’s the name of that place you like with the blooming onions and all the wacky signs hanging everywhere?

anyway, I love the word “shenanigans”, but had always assumed it was a Yiddish word. Nope. Looked it up about a year ago (yes, I have 3 dictionaries at home. What?)

New Oxford Am Dictionary (on Mac): Origin unknown

Miriam Webster’s Collegiate 10th ed: Origin unknown

Webster’s New World 3rd collegiate ed: (paraphrasing from memory) from the Iroqois “to behave like the fox”

if that’s wrong, I don’t wanna be right.

]]> By: lasttide http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098074 lasttide Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098074 "Evil" is typically defined as bad + intent, unless you want to call that "malicious" and add metaphysical/theological meaning to "evil." Bad, in most cases, can best be defined in utilitarian terms. “Evil” is typically defined as bad + intent, unless you want to call that “malicious” and add metaphysical/theological meaning to “evil.”

Bad, in most cases, can best be defined in utilitarian terms.

]]> By: Moriarty http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098075 Moriarty Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098075 That "silly," "dangerous," and "stupid" apparently have no overlap raises more questions than it answers. That “silly,” “dangerous,” and “stupid” apparently have no overlap raises more questions than it answers.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098076 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098076 "Silly" and "stupid" are a matter of degree, not different terms. “Silly” and “stupid” are a matter of degree, not different terms.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098077 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098077 "Bad driver" totally == "evil driver" “Bad driver” totally == “evil driver”

]]> By: gwailo_joe http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098078 gwailo_joe Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098078 The combination of silly/dangerous would perhaps be best exemplified by those Jackass movie goons. Stupid/dangerous? So many options: unprotected sex with IV using sex workers, mixing bleach and ammonia for household cleaning, U.S. fiscal policy...The list goes on. . . The combination of silly/dangerous would perhaps be best exemplified by those Jackass movie goons.

Stupid/dangerous? So many options: unprotected sex with IV using sex workers, mixing bleach and ammonia for household cleaning, U.S. fiscal policy…The list goes on. . .

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098079 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098079 I agree that they could all overlap, but this is simply a cross-section of the larger dimensional (3-d, etc) diagram that includes all of these spaces. I agree that they could all overlap, but this is simply a cross-section of the larger dimensional (3-d, etc) diagram that includes all of these spaces.

]]> By: Lobster http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098080 Lobster Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098080 I'm a bad person, so use me as a metric. I’m a bad person, so use me as a metric.

]]> By: jimh http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098083 jimh Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098083 I like how ATHF is clearly withing the Space of Foolishness (SoF) but seems to defy further categorization. "Your simple two-dimensional white board graphics cannot contain us." <em>"Can't and WON'T! You GOT that!?"</em> I like how ATHF is clearly withing the Space of Foolishness (SoF) but seems to defy further categorization.

“Your simple two-dimensional white board graphics cannot contain us.”
“Can’t and WON’T! You GOT that!?”

]]> By: gwailo_joe http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098086 gwailo_joe Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098086 I am enamoured by 'The Space Of Foolishness' What a great term; I have abided in that space for lo, many a long year... I am enamoured by ‘The Space Of Foolishness’

What a great term; I have abided in that space for lo, many a long year…

]]> By: yosemite http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098087 yosemite Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098087 I like this, but I'm distracted by the lack of parallelism among the grammatical categories. "Shenanigans" are acts, while "hooligans" are agents of acts. "Hooliganism" or "hooliganry" convey the output of hooligans, but there's a lexical gap for the individual acts of hooligans. So that means there is an ambiguity in determining the grammatical category of "youtubigans": are they the agents of stupid/bad acts, or the stupid/bad acts themselves? I like this, but I’m distracted by the lack of parallelism among the grammatical categories. “Shenanigans” are acts, while “hooligans” are agents of acts. “Hooliganism” or “hooliganry” convey the output of hooligans, but there’s a lexical gap for the individual acts of hooligans. So that means there is an ambiguity in determining the grammatical category of “youtubigans”: are they the agents of stupid/bad acts, or the stupid/bad acts themselves?

]]> By: gpeare http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098089 gpeare Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098089 Couldn't he just have shown him a video of the show on YouTube? http://youtu.be/NVRfLwlsNy4 Couldn’t he just have shown him a video of the show on YouTube? http://youtu.be/NVRfLwlsNy4

]]> By: JJinBrooklyn http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098095 JJinBrooklyn Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098095 My heart is warmed seeing that Aqua Teen Hunger Force made the general space but did not cross into Bad. I concur, gentlemen, I concur. My heart is warmed seeing that Aqua Teen Hunger Force made the general space but did not cross into Bad. I concur, gentlemen, I concur.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098098 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098098 I think these GE software engineers need to be found guilty of practicing English without a license. I think these GE software engineers need to be found guilty of practicing English without a license.

]]> By: irksome http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098099 irksome Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098099 The overlap of "Dangerous" and "Stupid" is called "Sarah "Palin". Refudiate that, bitches. The overlap of “Dangerous” and “Stupid” is called “Sarah “Palin”.

Refudiate that, bitches.

]]> By: ciacontra http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098106 ciacontra Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098106 Yep, needs a sub-space for Evil Shenanigans. Mac: But our shenanigans are cheeky and fun! Thorny: [referring to Farva] Yeah, and his shenanigans are cruel and tragic. Foster: [after a pause] Which... makes them not really shenanigans at all. Mac: [in a silly voice] Evil shenanigans! -Super Troopers Yep, needs a sub-space for Evil Shenanigans.

Mac: But our shenanigans are cheeky and fun!
Thorny: [referring to Farva] Yeah, and his shenanigans are cruel and tragic.
Foster: [after a pause] Which… makes them not really shenanigans at all.
Mac: [in a silly voice] Evil shenanigans!
-Super Troopers

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098114 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098114 Should we also require the correct spelling of "American"? It appears to be spelled "Americen" in the diagram. Should we also require the correct spelling of “American”? It appears to be spelled “Americen” in the diagram.

]]> By: msbpodcast http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1098128 msbpodcast Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1098128 Sounds like they were infected with the Jessica Nagy humor virus (see Indexed at thisisindexed.com ) Sounds like they were infected with the Jessica Nagy humor virus (see Indexed at thisisindexed.com )

]]> By: Valsadie http://boingboing.net/2011/05/02/venn-diagram-of-shen.html#comment-1110944 Valsadie Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1110944 Michael Jackson's a hooligan?? Sorry, couldn't resist. Seriously, planking could be the link between stupid and dangerous. Michael Jackson’s a hooligan?? Sorry, couldn’t resist.

Seriously, planking could be the link between stupid and dangerous.

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