Comments on: China's shonky Disneyland-a-like park closed http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 23 May 2013 21:52:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: JorgeBurgos http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1110549 JorgeBurgos Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1110549 Kimba The Lion wasn't public domain, but Disney ripped had no problem ripping it off: http://www.kimbawlion.com/rant2.htm Kimba The Lion wasn’t public domain, but Disney ripped had no problem ripping it off: http://www.kimbawlion.com/rant2.htm

]]> By: Takashi Omoto http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1109535 Takashi Omoto Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1109535 In case any park fanatics stop by this thread, I'd love to figure out what was the park I mentioned previously. Here's the best <a href="http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/2948/p1010204.png">picture I managed to snap of the logo</a> - it has a cartoon dragon and what you could say is a familiar castle in the background. In case any park fanatics stop by this thread, I’d love to figure out what was the park I mentioned previously. Here’s the best picture I managed to snap of the logo – it has a cartoon dragon and what you could say is a familiar castle in the background.

]]> By: babylost http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1109791 babylost Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1109791 Couldn't they just give that park to Oswald and let him use it with all the other forgotten toons? I would love to hang out on Mean Street and Ventureland. Couldn’t they just give that park to Oswald and let him use it with all the other forgotten toons?

I would love to hang out on Mean Street and Ventureland.

]]> By: adamnvillani http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1110311 adamnvillani Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1110311 That article on Tivoli Gardens mostly talks about how it's different from Disneyland, not like it. Elegant landscaping, a subtle sense of order, open-air shows, and parades aren't exactly a unique concept. That article on Tivoli Gardens mostly talks about how it’s different from Disneyland, not like it. Elegant landscaping, a subtle sense of order, open-air shows, and parades aren’t exactly a unique concept.

]]> By: Takashi Omoto http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1109547 Takashi Omoto Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1109547 Ah, figured it out - it's the fabled "largest theme park in Asia" that never was, <a href=http://networkedblogs.com/h9Vfx>Wonderland</a>. Ah, figured it out – it’s the fabled “largest theme park in Asia” that never was, Wonderland.

]]> By: cservant http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1110316 cservant Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1110316 Oi, I passed by that same place last year too. Was told by the local guide part of the reason it was closed down was due to the subprime crisis in the States. They ran out of backers to fund the place. Oi, I passed by that same place last year too. Was told by the local guide part of the reason it was closed down was due to the subprime crisis in the States. They ran out of backers to fund the place.

]]> By: Avi Solomon http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1109552 Avi Solomon Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1109552 Tivoli Gardens in Copenhagen should sue Disney for infringement asap:) http://www.michaelbarrier.com/Essays/EuropeanJournal_Tivoli/europeanjournal_tivoli.htm Tivoli Gardens in Copenhagen should sue Disney for infringement asap:)
http://www.michaelbarrier.com/Essays/EuropeanJournal_Tivoli/europeanjournal_tivoli.htm

]]> By: VICTOR JIMENEZ http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1109348 VICTOR JIMENEZ Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1109348 "Intensely crappy"... Coming from china? Are you serious? /s “Intensely crappy”… Coming from china? Are you serious? /s

]]> By: mojo http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1109354 mojo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1109354 Considering that Disney just rips off public domain stories like Alladin, Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Beauty and the Beast etc. it seems a bit rich coming from them. Considering that Disney just rips off public domain stories like Alladin, Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Beauty and the Beast etc. it seems a bit rich coming from them.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1109355 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1109355 Whatever ideas might have originated in Disneyland -- and let's face it, Cinderella Castle is a blatant rip-off of a Grimm brothers/ folk tale character, and Disney himself was inspired by other amusement parks of the time! -- they should have passed into the public domain by now, if copyright laws had realistic end dates. OK, I'm back to suing Disney Corp. over Mickey Mouse's likeliness to Felix the Cat. Whatever ideas might have originated in Disneyland — and let’s face it, Cinderella Castle is a blatant rip-off of a Grimm brothers/ folk tale character, and Disney himself was inspired by other amusement parks of the time! — they should have passed into the public domain by now, if copyright laws had realistic end dates.

OK, I’m back to suing Disney Corp. over Mickey Mouse’s likeliness to Felix the Cat.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1109359 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1109359 I love the idea of a legal Disney park knockoff since a lot of Disney is built on public domain stories. Would this hold up in the US? I love the idea of a legal Disney park knockoff since a lot of Disney is built on public domain stories. Would this hold up in the US?

]]> By: VICTOR JIMENEZ http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1109360 VICTOR JIMENEZ Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1109360 Oh... Disney being filthy hypocrites? You serious? /s Oh… Disney being filthy hypocrites? You serious? /s

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1109363 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1109363 Oh come on, Mojo, it's one thing to take public domain stories and add your own spin to them. It's another to outright copy someone's rendition of them. Look at the picture of Snow White in the linked Metro.co.uk article-looks identical to Disney. There's nothing in the public domain source describing Snow White as wearing a dress that's yellow below the waist and blue above with round pinkish dots on the sleeves-that's purely ripoff of Disney. The Metro article says an ad showed kids "cavorting with Minnie Mouse, Donald Duck, Pluto...." Those aren't drawn from public domain sources. Oh come on, Mojo, it’s one thing to take public domain stories and add your own spin to them. It’s another to outright copy someone’s rendition of them. Look at the picture of Snow White in the linked Metro.co.uk article-looks identical to Disney. There’s nothing in the public domain source describing Snow White as wearing a dress that’s yellow below the waist and blue above with round pinkish dots on the sleeves-that’s purely ripoff of Disney.

The Metro article says an ad showed kids “cavorting with Minnie Mouse, Donald Duck, Pluto….” Those aren’t drawn from public domain sources.

]]> By: Takashi Omoto http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1109365 Takashi Omoto Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1109365 I thought I sped tru the place in October and that it was already being dismantled. Turns out it's a <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/T53AFjYD7oiXNULbABM_Ig">totally different castle-inspired park</a>. I should look it up one of these days. On the other side, I guess Shijingshan's not-Mickey and not-Minnie needed some extra yuan so <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/i4ThbfevRpzU50jhG7iAYw">I caught them posing near the Beijing Olympic's "Bird's Nest"</a>. I thought I sped tru the place in October and that it was already being dismantled. Turns out it’s a totally different castle-inspired park. I should look it up one of these days.

On the other side, I guess Shijingshan’s not-Mickey and not-Minnie needed some extra yuan so I caught them posing near the Beijing Olympic’s “Bird’s Nest”.

]]> By: Mr. Winka http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1109642 Mr. Winka Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1109642 I would like to see this location used for the ending of "Zombieland 2: The Shonkification". I would like to see this location used for the ending of “Zombieland 2: The Shonkification”.

]]> By: PeaceNerd http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1109397 PeaceNerd Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1109397 Man, I'll take Shonky Weird Unique Chinese Knock-Off Park over Soulless Sterile Mass-Produced Disney Resort aaaanyday of the week. And twice on Sunday. Man, I’ll take Shonky Weird Unique Chinese Knock-Off Park over Soulless Sterile Mass-Produced Disney Resort aaaanyday of the week. And twice on Sunday.

]]> By: Enormo http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1109408 Enormo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1109408 <i>"Shijingshan management claim that they aren't copying Disney, merely taking their inspiration from the same sources."</i> Their source being Disney. “Shijingshan management claim that they aren’t copying Disney, merely taking their inspiration from the same sources.”

Their source being Disney.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1112736 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1112736 There's still this one in Japan! http://www.brandknewme.com/?p=845 There’s still this one in Japan!

http://www.brandknewme.com/?p=845

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1109420 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1109420 So it's OK if Disney totally ripped off Tivoli in Copenhagen?! http://www.michaelbarrier.com/Essays/EuropeanJournal_Tivoli/europeanjournal_tivoli.htm So it’s OK if Disney totally ripped off Tivoli in Copenhagen?!
http://www.michaelbarrier.com/Essays/EuropeanJournal_Tivoli/europeanjournal_tivoli.htm

]]> By: redesigned http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1110194 redesigned Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1110194 Disney already rips off almost every single public domain fairy story tail and then goes after anyone using those same stories. I say this is fair play. On the bright side, at least the chinese can start buy some of the cheap shitty plastic disney toy crap that they already manufacture there. I have yet to see a disney brand toy of any quality. Disney already rips off almost every single public domain fairy story tail and then goes after anyone using those same stories. I say this is fair play.

On the bright side, at least the chinese can start buy some of the cheap shitty plastic disney toy crap that they already manufacture there. I have yet to see a disney brand toy of any quality.

]]> By: indigoskye http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1109430 indigoskye Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1109430 Hey, wanted to let you know I updated the story on The Disney Blog. The order to destroy the 'Disney-clone' was four years ago, but the park is still operating today with many of the same buildings and clone-characters. Guess Disney needs to apply a little more pressure. That photo from #4 above is pretty damning. Hey, wanted to let you know I updated the story on The Disney Blog. The order to destroy the ‘Disney-clone’ was four years ago, but the park is still operating today with many of the same buildings and clone-characters. Guess Disney needs to apply a little more pressure.

That photo from #4 above is pretty damning.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1109700 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1109700 Never been to a "theme park" of any kind. Am I alone in being more interested in the knockoff than I would be in the real deal? That said, I'm also a big fan of Chinese Lego knockoffs as well... Never been to a “theme park” of any kind.

Am I alone in being more interested in the knockoff than I would be in the real deal?

That said, I’m also a big fan of Chinese Lego knockoffs as well…

]]> By: CatherineCC http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1109707 CatherineCC Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1109707 Money buys everything in China! Money buys everything in China!

]]> By: jphilby http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1110475 jphilby Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1110475 China copies so much shit so shittily (sp?) so long they even copied mimeographs. I bet they're even making 3D copies of that 'Makers' book. "Oh, but the text is European, but ours is a Chinese." China and Disney deserve each other. China copies so much shit so shittily (sp?) so long they even copied mimeographs.

I bet they’re even making 3D copies of that ‘Makers’ book. “Oh, but the text is European, but ours is a Chinese.”

China and Disney deserve each other.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1109973 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1109973 Yeah - like Disney have a monopoly on anything looking vaguely like a mittel-European castle/chateau type building. Chinese rolling over and having tummies tickled by Disney just because Disney invests a bit locally, when most of rest of Chinese industry is busy infringing any copyright they can get value from either as products to sell back to us or to uplift their own industry (a.k.a industrial espionage) is just a tad ironic, no? Well it would have been if they hadn't just been pretending to have tummies tickled. Another case of The Chinese nod means 'no'. (PS: Lookalike. It's a word.) Yeah – like Disney have a monopoly on anything looking vaguely like a mittel-European castle/chateau type building.

Chinese rolling over and having tummies tickled by Disney just because Disney invests a bit locally, when most of rest of Chinese industry is busy infringing any copyright they can get value from either as products to sell back to us or to uplift their own industry (a.k.a industrial espionage) is just a tad ironic, no? Well it would have been if they hadn’t just been pretending to have tummies tickled. Another case of The Chinese nod means ‘no’.

(PS: Lookalike. It’s a word.)

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1109462 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1109462 "Take our Cinderella for example..." You can't make this stuff up! Just when you think a stereotype is dead, they serve it up on a gold platter. “Take our Cinderella for example…” You can’t make this stuff up! Just when you think a stereotype is dead, they serve it up on a gold platter.

]]> By: dalocust http://boingboing.net/2011/05/13/chinas-shonky-disney.html#comment-1109497 dalocust Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1109497 remix culture! remix culture!

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