Comments on: Nobody expects the Spanish revolution: photos from "Real Democracy" protests in Spain http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Tue, 21 May 2013 06:39:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1113603 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1113603 The budget had surpluses up to 2008, and they didn't prevent the present situation. The causes of the specially bad economic situation in Spain are far from just a need for a "balanced budget". The productive system in Spain is wanting of a drastic overhaul. The budget had surpluses up to 2008, and they didn’t prevent the present situation. The causes of the specially bad economic situation in Spain are far from just a need for a “balanced budget”. The productive system in Spain is wanting of a drastic overhaul.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1113605 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1113605 it is in english because: 1- its a joke from one of the best, and more critic comedians: The Monty Pyton. The original joke goes: "nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnQ_gIfgsnA&feature=fvst 2- because we want this to go WorldWide! Becacuse we all, the common people around the world have the same problems, caused by an unfair and untenble system. It doesnt matter what political power we elect, because what really rules the world is the economical stablisment over the people and the politicans elected (or not) by the people. We all need to change that. it is in english because:
1- its a joke from one of the best, and more critic comedians: The Monty Pyton. The original joke goes: “nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnQ_gIfgsnA&feature=fvst

2- because we want this to go WorldWide! Becacuse we all, the common people around the world have the same problems, caused by an unfair and untenble system.
It doesnt matter what political power we elect, because what really rules the world is the economical stablisment over the people and the politicans elected (or not) by the people.

We all need to change that.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1113609 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1113609 thats whats diferent nowadays, we have social networks. Common press is part of the problem, cause they are controled by the economical power. They should be a key part in the democracy, being critic and exposing politician and bankers affairs and fiddles. But as long as they are puppets of the economical power, they are part of the problem. Use the social networks. Another globalization for everyone is posible! thats whats diferent nowadays, we have social networks.
Common press is part of the problem, cause they are controled by the economical power. They should be a key part in the democracy, being critic and exposing politician and bankers affairs and fiddles. But as long as they are puppets of the economical power, they are part of the problem.

Use the social networks. Another globalization for everyone is posible!

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1114635 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1114635 we have no democracy,we have just a lot of corrupt politicians willing to fill the pockets.Spain is probably the most corrupt country in the world and god has nothing to do with that. we have no democracy,we have just a lot of corrupt politicians willing to fill the pockets.Spain is probably the most corrupt country in the world and god has nothing to do with that.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1113615 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1113615 Me ofrezco para traducir o que se necesite al Inglés y al Ruso. Animo! Me ofrezco para traducir o que se necesite al Inglés y al Ruso. Animo!

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1113362 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1113362 EXIGIMOS DEMOCRACIA VERDADEIRA, JÁ! Não somos mercadoria nas mãos de políticos e banqueiros! -- PORTUGAL http://www.facebook.com/Democracia.Verdadeira.Ja EXIGIMOS DEMOCRACIA VERDADEIRA, JÁ! Não somos mercadoria nas mãos de políticos e banqueiros! — PORTUGAL

http://www.facebook.com/Democracia.Verdadeira.Ja

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1116947 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1116947 This is May 68 2.0 This is May 68 2.0

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1116181 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1116181 Wish i could be there with you guys, there is no worthier cause. Fuerza a los valientes! Wish i could be there with you guys, there is no worthier cause.

Fuerza a los valientes!

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1113877 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1113877 The photogalery of El País to all the people who want to see more photos about the #spanishrevolution. http://www.elpais.com/fotogaleria/Protesta/Movimiento/elpgal/20110517elpepunac_3/Zes/1 The photogalery of El País to all the people who want to see more photos about the #spanishrevolution.
http://www.elpais.com/fotogaleria/Protesta/Movimiento/elpgal/20110517elpepunac_3/Zes/1

]]> By: Bucket http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1113367 Bucket Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1113367 I'm disappointed that I can't click on the tag in that guy's sign and see other pictures with the same tag. I’m disappointed that I can’t click on the tag in that guy’s sign and see other pictures with the same tag.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1114665 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1114665 Maybe I've been outside of Spain for too long, but really, I don´t see what do they expect the government (or any political party at all) to do. There isn´t a magical key that is solving all of their problems. Is really sad to see how the most prepared and educated generations of young Spaniards are mostly unemployed, but if you look at the overall situation...that strike is only going to make it worse for a country of the edge of falling into the same kind of situation Greece or Ireland are. My conclusion, and I feel sad for saying this about the society I grew in, is that Spaniards are too used to sit down, complain and wait for somebody else to do the things that require a colective effort. Maybe I’ve been outside of Spain for too long, but really, I don´t see what do they expect the government (or any political party at all) to do. There isn´t a magical key that is solving all of their problems. Is really sad to see how the most prepared and educated generations of young Spaniards are mostly unemployed, but if you look at the overall situation…that strike is only going to make it worse for a country of the edge of falling into the same kind of situation Greece or Ireland are.

My conclusion, and I feel sad for saying this about the society I grew in, is that Spaniards are too used to sit down, complain and wait for somebody else to do the things that require a colective effort.

]]> By: Latro http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1113641 Latro Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1113641 This has taken a lot of people by surprise, including me. And I'm not precisely in agreement with the platform - some of their ideas are, well, not practical to say the least. But come on. You want to know why this is happening? BECAUSE WE HAVE 20% UNEMPLOYMENT AND IF YOU ARE YOUNG THE NUMBERS ARE WORSE. Thats it, in a nutshell. Have enough young, smart, internet savvy people with no work or shitty low paying jobs ("temporal" jobs and "becarios" that remain "becarios" forever) and no perspective of work and no home and no perspective of getting out of their parents home ... and what do you expect? This has taken a lot of people by surprise, including me. And I’m not precisely in agreement with the platform – some of their ideas are, well, not practical to say the least.

But come on. You want to know why this is happening? BECAUSE WE HAVE 20% UNEMPLOYMENT AND IF YOU ARE YOUNG THE NUMBERS ARE WORSE.

Thats it, in a nutshell. Have enough young, smart, internet savvy people with no work or shitty low paying jobs (“temporal” jobs and “becarios” that remain “becarios” forever) and no perspective of work and no home and no perspective of getting out of their parents home … and what do you expect?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1114156 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1114156 I am an American student studying in Madrid, and I live less than a ten minute walk from Sol. My roommate nearly got hit by rubber bullets on his way back home on Sunday. Every time I've walked through Sol this week there have been at least a dozen riot vans, and, although there are much less people there now than there are in the video, there is still a decent amount of protesters who have set up improvised shelters in the center of the plaza and are refusing to leave until their goals are met. The protest grows at night too, with many young people joining in. I am an American student studying in Madrid, and I live less than a ten minute walk from Sol. My roommate nearly got hit by rubber bullets on his way back home on Sunday. Every time I’ve walked through Sol this week there have been at least a dozen riot vans, and, although there are much less people there now than there are in the video, there is still a decent amount of protesters who have set up improvised shelters in the center of the plaza and are refusing to leave until their goals are met. The protest grows at night too, with many young people joining in.

]]> By: Latro http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1113645 Latro Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1113645 Also, the media coverage has been laughable at best. El Pais covers it a bit... and tries to paint it as "Vote PSOE". I dont know the right wing press, I dont read them cause I want to keep breakfast inside me, thanks. Also, the media coverage has been laughable at best. El Pais covers it a bit… and tries to paint it as “Vote PSOE”. I dont know the right wing press, I dont read them cause I want to keep breakfast inside me, thanks.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1115953 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1115953 @ #53, Yeah, we really did manifest here in Portugal... I was there. What good did that bring us? Nothing. It's all the same, only changing for the worst. I hope you guys there in Spain can do better then we did. My sincere hopes and fuerza are with you now. Show the world you can do something where we failed! @ #53,

Yeah, we really did manifest here in Portugal… I was there.
What good did that bring us? Nothing. It’s all the same, only changing for the worst.

I hope you guys there in Spain can do better then we did.
My sincere hopes and fuerza are with you now.

Show the world you can do something where we failed!

]]> By: VICTOR JIMENEZ http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1113651 VICTOR JIMENEZ Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1113651 The last photo comes from the May 17th protest in Seville, there were not 17 thousands. In the other hand in May 15th there were 8.000 (less or more) protesters in the streets of Seville alone. There was an astounding lack of coverage from the mainstream press and TV stations. And El Pais was one of the worse offenders. Some news stations went as far as to say the we where only "two hundred radicals". Now, political parties from left and right try to convince us to vote for them because they are "cool" and the "understand". But they don`t understand that THEY are the real problem. The last photo comes from the May 17th protest in Seville, there were not 17 thousands. In the other hand in May 15th there were 8.000 (less or more) protesters in the streets of Seville alone.

There was an astounding lack of coverage from the mainstream press and TV stations. And El Pais was one of the worse offenders.

Some news stations went as far as to say the we where only “two hundred radicals”.

Now, political parties from left and right try to convince us to vote for them because they are “cool” and the “understand”.

But they don`t understand that THEY are the real problem.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1113654 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1113654 Our countries are their people's, they don't belong to the corrupt polititians, bankers or money empires. Spread that out, we are more honest, more candid, more loyal, more peaceful, and above all, we are more. WE RULE. Our countries are their people’s, they don’t belong to the corrupt polititians, bankers or money empires. Spread that out, we are more honest, more candid, more loyal, more peaceful, and above all, we are more. WE RULE.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1113655 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1113655 Thanks for the quote. It's exciting what's going on here in Spain. Could you please add my twitter link to the picture info, twitter.com/scrich ? Thanks! Thanks for the quote. It’s exciting what’s going on here in Spain. Could you please add my twitter link to the picture info, twitter.com/scrich ?

Thanks!

]]> By: Andor http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1113407 Andor Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1113407 My pleasure... https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23spanishrevolution My pleasure…

https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23spanishrevolution

]]> By: osopunk http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1113409 osopunk Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1113409 LONDON Wednesday 18th May, Sloane Sq walk to the Spanish Embassy as a protest against this dodgy politicians, the rip off by the banks, the abuse of power and the corruption. For REAL DEMOCRACY NOW.... #spanishrevolution Come with us, join us, show up! LONDON Wednesday 18th May, Sloane Sq walk to the Spanish Embassy as a protest against this dodgy politicians, the rip off by the banks, the abuse of power and the corruption. For REAL DEMOCRACY NOW…. #spanishrevolution
Come with us, join us, show up!

]]> By: YarbroughFair http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1113672 YarbroughFair Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1113672 The # is considered a punctuation and may represent a number, numero, pound, hash, and is also known as an octothorp, comment, hex, sharp, space, square, tic tac toe, number and set theory, topology, 941 Hz and 1477 Hz on a telephone, metadata tag or hash tag. So I assume it must be for something like twitter, which I don't partake. So is that what the pound symbol means? The # is considered a punctuation and may represent a number, numero, pound, hash, and is also known as an octothorp, comment, hex, sharp, space, square, tic tac toe, number and set theory, topology, 941 Hz and 1477 Hz on a telephone, metadata tag or hash tag. So I assume it must be for something like twitter, which I don’t partake. So is that what the pound symbol means?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1115466 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1115466 Power to the people!! The time is now for a change ! Power to the people!!
The time is now for a change !

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1115213 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1115213 Democracy sucks, but there's nothing better. Electoral systems are always compromise solutions. Some countries are ruled basically by two parties, and some, like Italia, have a really tough time keeping a government. All parliaments should have white seats for the citizens that active want to express a "you all suck" idea. Here in Spain there's a party called "Ciudadanos en blanco" (Citizens in White) that promised a makeshift way of doing that using the current system. I have to say that I am happy to live in a country where this many citizens can make themselves be heard in such a civilized way. Democracy sucks, but there’s nothing better.

Electoral systems are always compromise solutions. Some countries are ruled basically by two parties, and some, like Italia, have a really tough time keeping a government.

All parliaments should have white seats for the citizens that active want to express a “you all suck” idea.

Here in Spain there’s a party called “Ciudadanos en blanco” (Citizens in White) that promised a makeshift way of doing that using the current system.

I have to say that I am happy to live in a country where this many citizens can make themselves be heard in such a civilized way.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1113422 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1113422 Hi there, I'm the video's author. Thanks so much for the mention! Just one little petition: may you mention me as @juanlusanchez (linking to twitter), instead of "el oyente"... it's a long story. Thanks! So proud of being quoted at Boing Boing! Hi there, I’m the video’s author. Thanks so much for the mention! Just one little petition: may you mention me as @juanlusanchez (linking to twitter), instead of “el oyente”… it’s a long story. Thanks! So proud of being quoted at Boing Boing!

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1113688 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1113688 No a la corrupción política. No al dominio del gobierno por la banca y los mercados. No a los excesivos cargos politicos con sueldos astronómicos. No a los recortes sociales. No a las decisiones que afectan a los ciudadanos sin contar con los ciudadanos. ¡¡¡Como que no pedimos nada!!! MANIFIESTO: http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/politica/manifiesto-democracia-real-1009708 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04gab73sraE&feature=player_embedded No a la corrupción política. No al dominio del gobierno por la banca y los mercados. No a los excesivos cargos politicos con sueldos astronómicos. No a los recortes sociales. No a las decisiones que afectan a los ciudadanos sin contar con los ciudadanos.

¡¡¡Como que no pedimos nada!!!

MANIFIESTO: http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/politica/manifiesto-democracia-real-1009708

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04gab73sraE&feature=player_embedded

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1113440 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1113440 Has anyone else asked themselves why this sign is in english? Has anyone else asked themselves why this sign is in english?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1115235 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1115235 Hermanas y hermanos que hablan español perdone mi español. # 49 Yo estoy de acuerdo. La mejor manera de poner fin a lo que estos mentirosos llaman "progreso " es a vetar cada movimiento que quieren hacer, sentarse, tenga en cuenta los posibles resultados, y luego decidir cómo proceder. La única manera de separarse de esta pesadilla capitalista es a través de bloqueo de lo que puede procesar a través del Parlamento, a través de la abstención en masa a través del proceso parlamentario. Este será un proceso muy largo, pero los abstencionistas ya forman un porcentaje enorme de la mayoría de los electores europeos. La única otra es mucho más violenta y mucho más preferible menos. #49. I agree. The best way to halt what these liars call "progress" is to veto every single move they want to make, sit back, consider the possible outcomes, and then decide how to proceed. The only way to secede from this capitalist nightmare is via blocking what we can through parliamentary process, via mass abstention through the parliamentary process. This will be a very lengthy process, but the abstentionists already form a massive percentage of most European electorates. The only other course is far more violent and far less preferable. Hermanas y hermanos que hablan español perdone mi español. # 49 Yo estoy de acuerdo. La mejor manera de poner fin a lo que estos mentirosos llaman “progreso ” es a vetar cada movimiento que quieren hacer, sentarse, tenga en cuenta los posibles resultados, y luego decidir cómo proceder. La única manera de separarse de esta pesadilla capitalista es a través de bloqueo de lo que puede procesar a través del Parlamento, a través de la abstención en masa a través del proceso parlamentario. Este será un proceso muy largo, pero los abstencionistas ya forman un porcentaje enorme de la mayoría de los electores europeos. La única otra es mucho más violenta y mucho más preferible menos.

#49. I agree. The best way to halt what these liars call “progress” is to veto every single move they want to make, sit back, consider the possible outcomes, and then decide how to proceed. The only way to secede from this capitalist nightmare is via blocking what we can through parliamentary process, via mass abstention through the parliamentary process. This will be a very lengthy process, but the abstentionists already form a massive percentage of most European electorates. The only other course is far more violent and far less preferable.

]]> By: Argaon http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1113703 Argaon Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1113703 Here an interactive map where are located just-in-time the protest camps in Spain. http://www.ikimap.com/map/2CYF Here an interactive map where are located just-in-time the protest camps in Spain.

http://www.ikimap.com/map/2CYF

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1114730 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1114730 We wont real democracy an a choice to elect people who represents us and no politicians who are servants of the bankers and long sharks. We are tired of the people serving the two mayority parties with no mayor diferences from one another.This is a pacefull revolution that pretends what the eleted politicians work in favor of people and no bankers. OUR VOICES CLAMING REAL DEMOCRACY SHOULD BE HEARD ALL AROND DE GLOBE. Excuse my english but I am a mad spaniard and at this moment,I wish that my voice would be heard farder away of the borders of Spain. ¡REAL REPRESENTATIV DEMOCRACY NOW! is what we are claiming for. We wont real democracy an a choice to elect people who represents us and no politicians who are servants of the bankers and long sharks. We are tired of the people serving the two mayority parties with no mayor diferences from one another.This is a pacefull revolution that pretends what the eleted politicians work in favor of people and no bankers.
OUR VOICES CLAMING REAL DEMOCRACY SHOULD BE HEARD ALL AROND DE GLOBE.
Excuse my english but I am a mad spaniard and at this moment,I wish that my voice would be heard farder away of the borders of Spain.
¡REAL REPRESENTATIV DEMOCRACY NOW! is what we are claiming for.

]]> By: R2D2 http://boingboing.net/2011/05/17/nobody-expects-the-s.html#comment-1116267 R2D2 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1116267 I was there last light - I've never seen that much creativity in all my years in Spain. A truly liberating experience, even though you might say goals are fuzzy (yes Rayonic, what can governments do? Particularly where they're infiltrated/compromised). But Mao once said, "dare to struggle, dare to win" -- i.e., you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs. I just wished I could've left another big placard "cuidado, sueños en gestación" (careful, dreams are hatching here). Isn't that what democracy is all about? Freedom of the mind, I mean. I was there last light – I’ve never seen that much creativity in all my years in Spain. A truly liberating experience, even though you might say goals are fuzzy (yes Rayonic, what can governments do? Particularly where they’re infiltrated/compromised). But Mao once said, “dare to struggle, dare to win” — i.e., you can’t make an omelette without breaking eggs. I just wished I could’ve left another big placard “cuidado, sueños en gestación” (careful, dreams are hatching here).

Isn’t that what democracy is all about? Freedom of the mind, I mean.

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