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	<title>Comments on: Man chooses &quot;elective amputation&quot; for bionic hand, after motorcycle&#160;accident</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1115926</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly not the first to do so. British pilots in WWII did the same with ankles which were fused after accidents or crashes.  Apparently they were able to retain flight status with a prosthetic - while a fused but biological ankle would have failed their flight physicals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly not the first to do so. British pilots in WWII did the same with ankles which were fused after accidents or crashes.  Apparently they were able to retain flight status with a prosthetic &#8211; while a fused but biological ankle would have failed their flight physicals.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1114918</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and thus it began (innocently enough) &quot;the merging&quot;, (some later termed it &quot;the extension&quot;), of humanity with the mechanical.  following &quot;elective&quot; extensions for even the minor disability came the argument that normal ability amounted to a disability in the face of what the extensions, now &quot;augments&quot; could provide.  Although it was generally assumed that it would start in Japan, it was the abundant governmental funding of health care in Sweden that tipped the balance for so-called &quot;full augmentation&quot;; that and the acceptance by the Olympic committee on an augment Olympic division.  No one is sure where the first elective cortex appliance (Corapp) was made, but it was said that the young Ukrainian thought it would be facilitate his gambling habit.  Little did he suspect... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and thus it began (innocently enough) &#8220;the merging&#8221;, (some later termed it &#8220;the extension&#8221;), of humanity with the mechanical.  following &#8220;elective&#8221; extensions for even the minor disability came the argument that normal ability amounted to a disability in the face of what the extensions, now &#8220;augments&#8221; could provide.  Although it was generally assumed that it would start in Japan, it was the abundant governmental funding of health care in Sweden that tipped the balance for so-called &#8220;full augmentation&#8221;; that and the acceptance by the Olympic committee on an augment Olympic division.  No one is sure where the first elective cortex appliance (Corapp) was made, but it was said that the young Ukrainian thought it would be facilitate his gambling habit.  Little did he suspect&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1114924</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool Hand Luke... Skywalker!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool Hand Luke&#8230; Skywalker!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1114926</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of this: http://www.sarifindustries.com/en/#/video/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of this: <a href="http://www.sarifindustries.com/en/#/video/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sarifindustries.com/en/#/video/</a></p>
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		<title>By: AirPillo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1115187</link>
		<dc:creator>AirPillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prosthetics are usually worn over a &quot;stump&quot; that is fully covered with healed skin, so there&#039;s no contact between the prosthetic and the immune cells that would cause rejection. Sensors placed on the skin are able to read nerve impulses without having to actually make contact with the nerves. As far as permanent medical devices go, prosthetics are usually very non-invasive things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prosthetics are usually worn over a &#8220;stump&#8221; that is fully covered with healed skin, so there&#8217;s no contact between the prosthetic and the immune cells that would cause rejection. Sensors placed on the skin are able to read nerve impulses without having to actually make contact with the nerves. As far as permanent medical devices go, prosthetics are usually very non-invasive things.</p>
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		<title>By: quickbrownfox</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1114934</link>
		<dc:creator>quickbrownfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cue Star Wars comments in 5...4...3...</description>
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		<title>By: sarahmayscott</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1115459</link>
		<dc:creator>sarahmayscott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>absolutely amazing and hope for so many.  at UPMC, they have started &lt;a href=http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10043/1035311-115.stm&gt;actual limb transplants&lt;/a&gt;, some of which will be quad-amputees in the near future.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>absolutely amazing and hope for so many.  at UPMC, they have started <a href=http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10043/1035311-115.stm>actual limb transplants</a>, some of which will be quad-amputees in the near future.  </p>
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		<title>By: Garst</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1114953</link>
		<dc:creator>Garst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Star Wars? I was thinking Full Metal Alchemist.</description>
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		<title>By: RuthlessRuben</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1115210</link>
		<dc:creator>RuthlessRuben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing with this &quot;exoskeleton glove&quot; idea. Stem cell research is very promising, but beyond that, its not really anything yet. I really believe that one day this man could be cured by stemcells, but the important question is WHEN. And we can&#039;t say when yet, there might be a breakthrough next month, next year, next decade, we don&#039;t know for sure.

Meanwhile, this guy is living with one hand. And he wants a new one. Bad. I think having a hand you can&#039;t use is something that cannot be readily experienced unless you do something like break all of your fingers simultaneously or take part in some perspective-creating experiment. I can&#039;t imagine it. Take a second and think of 5 things you do every day that require both hands. Then 10. Then 20. It should be easy.

Now imagine you ARE this guy. You broke your shoulder, and your hand is dead. You already had two or three surgeries which amounted to nothing, and suddenly somebody gives you a choice: Get rid of your dead hand and have a brand-new artificial one NOW or get a clunky glove that makes you look like Hellboy loaned you his arm and maybe have a treatment that will enable your old hand to do pretty much the same as the prostetic in a couple of years. Or more. Maybe.

Thankfully this is not a choice I have to make now, and I think it isn&#039;t easy to have part of you cut off and discarded. But then again having to do everything with one hand while your other decided to go on a permanent neural holiday is not easy either.

Also, as suggested, a bionic exoskeleton is, as far as I know, more expensive than the entire prostetic hand. Also, it&#039;s essentially the same thing but less practical. It takes up room, it has dozens of acutators, and needs much more power because it constantly has to work against a limb that is essentially dead and thus usually instinctively rigid. The results are abrasions, luxations, bruises and other things you wont notice because your hand is not feeling anything, thus possibly leading to unnoticed infection. Also, such a prostetic glove is much more delicate than an enclosed prostetic, so it wears out much, much quicker, and costs much, much more.

A hand you can&#039;t afford, isn&#039;t a hand, a treatment that doesn&#039;t exist yet, is not really a treatment. So in the end, I think we should leave it up to the individual whether or not he wants to do such a thing.

Oh, and: Please let go of that &quot;Oh my, the technological singularity will consume us all!&quot; shtick, it&#039;s been done since cyberpunk died.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing with this &#8220;exoskeleton glove&#8221; idea. Stem cell research is very promising, but beyond that, its not really anything yet. I really believe that one day this man could be cured by stemcells, but the important question is WHEN. And we can&#8217;t say when yet, there might be a breakthrough next month, next year, next decade, we don&#8217;t know for sure.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, this guy is living with one hand. And he wants a new one. Bad. I think having a hand you can&#8217;t use is something that cannot be readily experienced unless you do something like break all of your fingers simultaneously or take part in some perspective-creating experiment. I can&#8217;t imagine it. Take a second and think of 5 things you do every day that require both hands. Then 10. Then 20. It should be easy.</p>
<p>Now imagine you ARE this guy. You broke your shoulder, and your hand is dead. You already had two or three surgeries which amounted to nothing, and suddenly somebody gives you a choice: Get rid of your dead hand and have a brand-new artificial one NOW or get a clunky glove that makes you look like Hellboy loaned you his arm and maybe have a treatment that will enable your old hand to do pretty much the same as the prostetic in a couple of years. Or more. Maybe.</p>
<p>Thankfully this is not a choice I have to make now, and I think it isn&#8217;t easy to have part of you cut off and discarded. But then again having to do everything with one hand while your other decided to go on a permanent neural holiday is not easy either.</p>
<p>Also, as suggested, a bionic exoskeleton is, as far as I know, more expensive than the entire prostetic hand. Also, it&#8217;s essentially the same thing but less practical. It takes up room, it has dozens of acutators, and needs much more power because it constantly has to work against a limb that is essentially dead and thus usually instinctively rigid. The results are abrasions, luxations, bruises and other things you wont notice because your hand is not feeling anything, thus possibly leading to unnoticed infection. Also, such a prostetic glove is much more delicate than an enclosed prostetic, so it wears out much, much quicker, and costs much, much more.</p>
<p>A hand you can&#8217;t afford, isn&#8217;t a hand, a treatment that doesn&#8217;t exist yet, is not really a treatment. So in the end, I think we should leave it up to the individual whether or not he wants to do such a thing.</p>
<p>Oh, and: Please let go of that &#8220;Oh my, the technological singularity will consume us all!&#8221; shtick, it&#8217;s been done since cyberpunk died.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1115723</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m only human... but i&#039;m changing that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m only human&#8230; but i&#8217;m changing that!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1114956</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big mistake.

He could have had an &quot;exoskeleton&quot; to do the same all the while waiting for a cure to his problem (stem cells ?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big mistake.</p>
<p>He could have had an &#8220;exoskeleton&#8221; to do the same all the while waiting for a cure to his problem (stem cells ?)</p>
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		<title>By: roboton</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1114959</link>
		<dc:creator>roboton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read the article, but how do they deal with rejection?</description>
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		<title>By: Kimmo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1114961</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m slightly disappointed at how primitive these still are...

I guess mechanical engineering is going to progress fairly slowly until nanotech has matured enough to have much of a bearing on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m slightly disappointed at how primitive these still are&#8230;</p>
<p>I guess mechanical engineering is going to progress fairly slowly until nanotech has matured enough to have much of a bearing on it.</p>
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		<title>By: TooGoodToCheck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1114962</link>
		<dc:creator>TooGoodToCheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not the Bionic Man?  

We can rebuild him.  We have the technology</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not the Bionic Man?  </p>
<p>We can rebuild him.  We have the technology</p>
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		<title>By: Comrade7</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1114965</link>
		<dc:creator>Comrade7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Army of Darkness?

Groovy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Army of Darkness?</p>
<p>Groovy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: William George</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1114974</link>
		<dc:creator>William George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy will have his choice of women. Or men if he swings that way...

What I&#039;m saying is: Bad-ass!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy will have his choice of women. Or men if he swings that way&#8230;</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m saying is: Bad-ass!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1115747</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrocution</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrocution" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrocution</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1114987</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe I&#039;m actually a little jealous.  I mean, I like my hands, and he won&#039;t be able to touch anything and feel it, but still - that&#039;s just cool as shit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe I&#8217;m actually a little jealous.  I mean, I like my hands, and he won&#8217;t be able to touch anything and feel it, but still &#8211; that&#8217;s just cool as shit!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cyberpunk didn&#039;t die, it just started to boil.</description>
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		<title>By: Jesse M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like it would have made more sense to just modify the bionic hand into something like a bionic exoskeleton for his real hand that would pick up signals from the nerves in the same way, but instead of moving robotic fingers it would just move around his real fingers. Guess it would just cost too much to custom-build something like that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like it would have made more sense to just modify the bionic hand into something like a bionic exoskeleton for his real hand that would pick up signals from the nerves in the same way, but instead of moving robotic fingers it would just move around his real fingers. Guess it would just cost too much to custom-build something like that?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article starts &quot;...lost the use of his right hand in a motorcycle accident ...&quot;, then finishes with &quot;...after being electrocuted at work.&quot;  Which is it?

Also, electrocution literally means DEATH by electric shock - electrical execution.  I know that &quot;He lost the use of his hand after an accidental shock at work.&quot; doesn&#039;t sound as dramatic as &quot;ZOMG! He was freaking ELECTROCUTED!!11!!&quot;, but it&#039;s not correct.  He&#039;s still alive.  Just sayin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article starts &#8220;&#8230;lost the use of his right hand in a motorcycle accident &#8230;&#8221;, then finishes with &#8220;&#8230;after being electrocuted at work.&#8221;  Which is it?</p>
<p>Also, electrocution literally means DEATH by electric shock &#8211; electrical execution.  I know that &#8220;He lost the use of his hand after an accidental shock at work.&#8221; doesn&#8217;t sound as dramatic as &#8220;ZOMG! He was freaking ELECTROCUTED!!11!!&#8221;, but it&#8217;s not correct.  He&#8217;s still alive.  Just sayin.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how &quot;Otto Bock&quot; sounds VERY SIMILAR to &quot;Autobot&quot;.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article seems to imply that that this Professor Oskar Aszmann is the chap who performs the entire procedure. In fact, the surgeons are responsible for amputating the limb only. The patient is later transferred to a specialist Prosthetist to have the prosthesis fitted, trained up on it&#039;s use, and supported by them for the rest of his life.

I love how this Professor likes to take the limelight for all the work; and the Prosthetist who *ARE* actually responsible for fitting and helping the chap, get no mention!

And how do I know all this? My wife works for Otto Bock as a Prosthetist :)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article seems to imply that that this Professor Oskar Aszmann is the chap who performs the entire procedure. In fact, the surgeons are responsible for amputating the limb only. The patient is later transferred to a specialist Prosthetist to have the prosthesis fitted, trained up on it&#8217;s use, and supported by them for the rest of his life.</p>
<p>I love how this Professor likes to take the limelight for all the work; and the Prosthetist who *ARE* actually responsible for fitting and helping the chap, get no mention!</p>
<p>And how do I know all this? My wife works for Otto Bock as a Prosthetist :)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1115276</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the problem is that a replacement isn&#039;t really going to be much better than a non-working hand.  The human hand is amazing.  It&#039;s not like the replacement won&#039;t do much to help him type, or tie his shoe, or very many of the myriad of other things that we use our hands for on a daily basis.  There&#039;s a good reason why most of the voluntary amputations that you hear about are for feet, not hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the problem is that a replacement isn&#8217;t really going to be much better than a non-working hand.  The human hand is amazing.  It&#8217;s not like the replacement won&#8217;t do much to help him type, or tie his shoe, or very many of the myriad of other things that we use our hands for on a daily basis.  There&#8217;s a good reason why most of the voluntary amputations that you hear about are for feet, not hands.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1115790</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wikipedia at its finest.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Electrocution is also frequently used to refer to any electric shock received but is technically incorrect.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

...immediately followed by...

&lt;blockquote&gt;This choice in definition varies from dictionary to dictionary.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wikipedia at its finest.</p>
<blockquote><p>Electrocution is also frequently used to refer to any electric shock received but is technically incorrect.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;immediately followed by&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>This choice in definition varies from dictionary to dictionary.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Jesse M.</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1115544</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Also, as suggested, a bionic exoskeleton is, as far as I know, more expensive than the entire prostetic hand. Also, it&#039;s essentially the same thing but less practical. It takes up room, it has dozens of acutators, and needs much more power because it constantly has to work against a limb that is essentially dead and thus usually instinctively rigid. The results are abrasions, luxations, bruises and other things you wont notice because your hand is not feeling anything, thus possibly leading to unnoticed infection. Also, such a prostetic glove is much more delicate than an enclosed prostetic, so it wears out much, much quicker, and costs much, much more.&lt;/i&gt;

Do you mean to say that the &quot;prosthetic glove&quot; has actually been designed and built? I was just suggesting it as something one could &lt;i&gt;imagine&lt;/i&gt; designing in cases like this where the hand is still present but totally paralyzed. As a hypothetical idea it&#039;s not obvious why it would require more actuators for example, but if you&#039;re saying it&#039;s already been done I&#039;ll take your word for it that it does have the practical issues you mention.

What about just having a robotic hand attached to some rods attached to the arm, so the bionic hand is out past the regular hand (which could be concealed in a sleeve)? Aesthetically it might be a bit odd-looking but couldn&#039;t this be just as functional as a robotic hand attached to the stump of an amputated hand? Is the issue just that it&#039;s easier to detect never signals from a stump than from a paralyzed hand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Also, as suggested, a bionic exoskeleton is, as far as I know, more expensive than the entire prostetic hand. Also, it&#8217;s essentially the same thing but less practical. It takes up room, it has dozens of acutators, and needs much more power because it constantly has to work against a limb that is essentially dead and thus usually instinctively rigid. The results are abrasions, luxations, bruises and other things you wont notice because your hand is not feeling anything, thus possibly leading to unnoticed infection. Also, such a prostetic glove is much more delicate than an enclosed prostetic, so it wears out much, much quicker, and costs much, much more.</i></p>
<p>Do you mean to say that the &#8220;prosthetic glove&#8221; has actually been designed and built? I was just suggesting it as something one could <i>imagine</i> designing in cases like this where the hand is still present but totally paralyzed. As a hypothetical idea it&#8217;s not obvious why it would require more actuators for example, but if you&#8217;re saying it&#8217;s already been done I&#8217;ll take your word for it that it does have the practical issues you mention.</p>
<p>What about just having a robotic hand attached to some rods attached to the arm, so the bionic hand is out past the regular hand (which could be concealed in a sleeve)? Aesthetically it might be a bit odd-looking but couldn&#8217;t this be just as functional as a robotic hand attached to the stump of an amputated hand? Is the issue just that it&#8217;s easier to detect never signals from a stump than from a paralyzed hand?</p>
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		<title>By: narddogz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1115040</link>
		<dc:creator>narddogz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the Powerglove... it&#039;s so BAD.

Seriously though, that is truly wonderful, and unlike the Powerglove, useful.  

But did they have to use the same color scheme as the Nintendo model?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the Powerglove&#8230; it&#8217;s so BAD.</p>
<p>Seriously though, that is truly wonderful, and unlike the Powerglove, useful.  </p>
<p>But did they have to use the same color scheme as the Nintendo model?</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse M.</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1115558</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry, meant to write &quot;easier to detect &lt;i&gt;nerve&lt;/i&gt; signals&quot; at the end there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, meant to write &#8220;easier to detect <i>nerve</i> signals&#8221; at the end there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1115571</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did he get the optional Chainsaw attachment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did he get the optional Chainsaw attachment?</p>
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		<title>By: dculberson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/18/man-chooses-elective.html#comment-1115327</link>
		<dc:creator>dculberson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with the &quot;exoskeleton&quot; idea is (a) it doesn&#039;t exist (b) is much more technologically difficult, and (c) could damaging your dead biological hand, leading to infections - which end up severe when you can&#039;t tell it&#039;s hurt.  (compare to Leprosy where nerve death causes the sufferer to not notice injuries which then become infected and cause major issues)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the &#8220;exoskeleton&#8221; idea is (a) it doesn&#8217;t exist (b) is much more technologically difficult, and (c) could damaging your dead biological hand, leading to infections &#8211; which end up severe when you can&#8217;t tell it&#8217;s hurt.  (compare to Leprosy where nerve death causes the sufferer to not notice injuries which then become infected and cause major issues)</p>
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