1. The fact that a crime within the jurisdiction of the Court has been committed by a person pursuant to an order of a Government or of a superior, whether military or civilian, shall not relieve that person of criminal responsibility unless:
(a) The person was under a legal obligation to obey orders of the Government or the superior in question;
(b) The person did not know that the order was unlawful; and
(c) The order was not manifestly unlawful.

(a) applies to all soliders, in every country, everywhere, all the time, and (c) applies to Cisco in this instance, since the workers in question were operating in China under Chinese law. Making this statute basically an admission that the Nuremberg Defense is in fact valid.

Obviously this isn’t the way it should be, but please don’t try to claim legal responsibility when none exists. That doesn’t help.

With out documented evidence it seems like this would be hard to prove.

The lot of them should be charged with crimes against humanity, extradited to the Hague, and tried for these crimes in the International Criminal Court.

The “I was just following orders” excuse did not work at Nuremberg and it is high time that it no longer work anymore for engineers and scientists who, for money, willingly and with full knowledge design these Internet and cell phone spy and tracking mechanisms for these evil dictatorships like china and Iran, making them nothing less than accessories before the fact in commitment of crimes against humanity.

I do not see where they can be sued for doing biz with Chinese government. Will Boeing be sued for making aircraft used in…

To extend your metaphor, if a guy with a pretty serious and well documented history of shooting people buys a gun, then the gun store owner might have trouble saying, well, how did I know he was going to shoot someone with the gun I sold him?

The whole concept of “law” is laughable when talking about the mafia gangster regime ruling China. Sure, these assassins can hold so-called “trials” in their kangaroo courts and pass so called “laws” till they come out their noses, but any law that permits murder and torture of innocents is automatically null and void and illegal. These Chinese so called “laws” violate the basic core universal human rights all people on earth retain from the day they are born till the day they die. This is something no ruler or dictator can ever take away.

Cisco is complicit under international law in mass murder and torture and cannot use as its defense its supposed compliance with the illegal laws of the illegal outlaw criminal Chinese dictatorship.

We were making a technician training document and one day got word to delete a chapter. Why? That feature, that allows a knowledgeable someone to listen to/track any call in progress, is illegal in the US.

These things are full of surveillance powers. Ostensibly created for the business environment where employers have quite a bit of authority to monitor employee communications but the features aren’t taken out just because the switch has been sold for use in a city rather than a company.

Our company was eagerly chasing Chinese business and I’m sure the Chinese had a long list of things the box would need to do for them before they’d buy it,