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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, I already corrected my typo with post #103.

As for the value of art school, it depends on the school and the student. I&#039;d say that your friend&#039;s statement is false as a general statement. I&#039;ve seen many people become exposed to new things and make giant leaps under the mentorship of good teachers. If a student isn&#039;t self-motivated and does not take advantage of all of the opportunities for extra study and extra help, it is very likely that this student will benefit very little from school.

The fact of the matter is that there is not a lot of room for people to make money in art. This is not the fault of art schools. Whether a person attends school or not, that person will likely have a difficult time making money as an artist. By your friend&#039;s logic, we could say to the person who does not attend art school, &quot;Don&#039;t bother practicing art on your own, that&#039;ll only help you learn to make art.&quot;

I&#039;m not interested in identifying my school here, but it has produced numerous, successful working artists, some quite well known, some dead, some old, and some very young. The teachers take the advancement of the students very seriously. Every effort is made to expose the students to as much art, and as much of the craft involved, as possible, and that includes trips, overseas study, and so on. Sometimes class work involves doing real paying jobs. There is a system set up to counsel all graduates, for life, and help them find work. Several people in this graduating class have earned valuable grants.

So again, it depends on the school and it depends on the student.

As for the girl in the video, I don&#039;t find most of what she makes to be especially interesting. I find the music in the video to be grating and manipulative. I think that the whole production has been designed to convince the world that she is some kind of prodigy, whereas she may just be a lucky kid enjoying the art-making process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, I already corrected my typo with post #103.</p>
<p>As for the value of art school, it depends on the school and the student. I&#8217;d say that your friend&#8217;s statement is false as a general statement. I&#8217;ve seen many people become exposed to new things and make giant leaps under the mentorship of good teachers. If a student isn&#8217;t self-motivated and does not take advantage of all of the opportunities for extra study and extra help, it is very likely that this student will benefit very little from school.</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is that there is not a lot of room for people to make money in art. This is not the fault of art schools. Whether a person attends school or not, that person will likely have a difficult time making money as an artist. By your friend&#8217;s logic, we could say to the person who does not attend art school, &#8220;Don&#8217;t bother practicing art on your own, that&#8217;ll only help you learn to make art.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not interested in identifying my school here, but it has produced numerous, successful working artists, some quite well known, some dead, some old, and some very young. The teachers take the advancement of the students very seriously. Every effort is made to expose the students to as much art, and as much of the craft involved, as possible, and that includes trips, overseas study, and so on. Sometimes class work involves doing real paying jobs. There is a system set up to counsel all graduates, for life, and help them find work. Several people in this graduating class have earned valuable grants.</p>
<p>So again, it depends on the school and it depends on the student.</p>
<p>As for the girl in the video, I don&#8217;t find most of what she makes to be especially interesting. I find the music in the video to be grating and manipulative. I think that the whole production has been designed to convince the world that she is some kind of prodigy, whereas she may just be a lucky kid enjoying the art-making process.</p>
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		<title>By: dandelion</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to argue about whether or not this is art because that argument never goes well (I do think it is art though). I also think it&#039;s great that a young girl is being encouraged to paint.

That being said, it&#039;s seems the only reason she&#039;s getting all this attention is because her parents are rich and could provide her with the resources to paint and be exhibited. There are wonderful artists out there without the resources to show their work, so I object to the class privilege involved in this showcasing, not the little girl herself - she&#039;s adorable and very creative.

I also think (this is just my opinion!) that her work isn&#039;t very skilled. Her paint application is interesting, but not technically advanced. Also, her compositions usually have an all-over quality, the eye isn&#039;t led anywhere. There&#039;s nothing wrong with painting like that, but it&#039;s been done before.

I don&#039;t dislike this girl, and I&#039;m happy she enjoys making artwork so much. But I do wish other artists were afforded the same oppurtunities.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to argue about whether or not this is art because that argument never goes well (I do think it is art though). I also think it&#8217;s great that a young girl is being encouraged to paint.</p>
<p>That being said, it&#8217;s seems the only reason she&#8217;s getting all this attention is because her parents are rich and could provide her with the resources to paint and be exhibited. There are wonderful artists out there without the resources to show their work, so I object to the class privilege involved in this showcasing, not the little girl herself &#8211; she&#8217;s adorable and very creative.</p>
<p>I also think (this is just my opinion!) that her work isn&#8217;t very skilled. Her paint application is interesting, but not technically advanced. Also, her compositions usually have an all-over quality, the eye isn&#8217;t led anywhere. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with painting like that, but it&#8217;s been done before.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t dislike this girl, and I&#8217;m happy she enjoys making artwork so much. But I do wish other artists were afforded the same oppurtunities.  </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I clicked on the comments link for this story in gleeful anticipation of seeing a handful of hilarious displays of &quot;get off my lawn&quot; assertions about what constitutes &quot;real&quot; art, mixed in with a greater number of enlightened views. Instead I came up against a brick wall of profoundly depressing, malicious, ignorant clichÃ©s from a site which I&#039;d always imagined as being for those with a little more cultural intelligence, a little more compassion, and a little more imagination.

I teach art at the collage level. I can draw and paint photo-realistically, and I also pursue lyrical abstraction. The fact that I can produce realism is not something which somehow justifies the abstractions. The abstractions would not somehow become not-art if they had been produced by someone who does not produce realism. I mention this, as it is &quot;logic&quot; commonly used by those who cannot understand abstract art, Andy Rooney giving a good example of that here, with regards to Picasso:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsfX6xqCBks

I&#039;ll allow that obscene amounts of money thrown around for some art can be a bit much, and I&#039;ll allow that this girl&#039;s level of talent may not justify the attention. I&#039;ll also allow that arguments could be made about the girl&#039;s intent, though she seems quite focused to me. Because I drew identifiable dinosaurs and tanks at that age, can we argue that I did not actually attempt to represent those things? Can you argue that a human, at any age, is not a complex ball of confusion and emotion? I will not argue as to whether or not this girl is making good art, or whether or not she is a prodigy, but I will argue that she, in her way, IS making art. As for any accidental elements, even realist artists use happy accidents. I see beautiful designs and compositions in cracks in the sidewalk and other such places all of the time. They are framed with my mind in the same way that a photographer frames with a camera. You may not realize that Ansel Adams made delightful abstract compositions by photographing close-ups of moss, leaves, dirt, pine cones, or whatever was available. Michelangelo instructed his students thusly:

&quot;...cast your glance on any walls dirty with such stains or walls made up of rock formations of different types.  If you have to invent some scenes, you will be able to discover them there in diverse forms,  in diverse landscapes, adorned with mountains, rivers, rocks, trees, extensive plains, valleys, and hills. You can even see different battle scenes and movements made up of unusual figures,  faces with strange expressions,  and myriad things which you can  transform into a complete and proper form constituting part of similar walls and rocks. These are like the sound of bells, in whose tolling, you hear names and words that your imagination conjures up.&quot;

In the end, I might superficially liken abstract art to something like the &quot;Magic Eye&quot; optical illusions. Some people cannot manage to see the images in the &quot;Magic Eye&quot; illusions, but those of us who can know full well that they are there. Some might not be able to truly see all of what&#039;s in Abstract Expressionist works or related styles, but make no mistake, the value is there.

Jasper</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I clicked on the comments link for this story in gleeful anticipation of seeing a handful of hilarious displays of &#8220;get off my lawn&#8221; assertions about what constitutes &#8220;real&#8221; art, mixed in with a greater number of enlightened views. Instead I came up against a brick wall of profoundly depressing, malicious, ignorant clichÃ©s from a site which I&#8217;d always imagined as being for those with a little more cultural intelligence, a little more compassion, and a little more imagination.</p>
<p>I teach art at the collage level. I can draw and paint photo-realistically, and I also pursue lyrical abstraction. The fact that I can produce realism is not something which somehow justifies the abstractions. The abstractions would not somehow become not-art if they had been produced by someone who does not produce realism. I mention this, as it is &#8220;logic&#8221; commonly used by those who cannot understand abstract art, Andy Rooney giving a good example of that here, with regards to Picasso:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsfX6xqCBks" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsfX6xqCBks</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll allow that obscene amounts of money thrown around for some art can be a bit much, and I&#8217;ll allow that this girl&#8217;s level of talent may not justify the attention. I&#8217;ll also allow that arguments could be made about the girl&#8217;s intent, though she seems quite focused to me. Because I drew identifiable dinosaurs and tanks at that age, can we argue that I did not actually attempt to represent those things? Can you argue that a human, at any age, is not a complex ball of confusion and emotion? I will not argue as to whether or not this girl is making good art, or whether or not she is a prodigy, but I will argue that she, in her way, IS making art. As for any accidental elements, even realist artists use happy accidents. I see beautiful designs and compositions in cracks in the sidewalk and other such places all of the time. They are framed with my mind in the same way that a photographer frames with a camera. You may not realize that Ansel Adams made delightful abstract compositions by photographing close-ups of moss, leaves, dirt, pine cones, or whatever was available. Michelangelo instructed his students thusly:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;cast your glance on any walls dirty with such stains or walls made up of rock formations of different types.  If you have to invent some scenes, you will be able to discover them there in diverse forms,  in diverse landscapes, adorned with mountains, rivers, rocks, trees, extensive plains, valleys, and hills. You can even see different battle scenes and movements made up of unusual figures,  faces with strange expressions,  and myriad things which you can  transform into a complete and proper form constituting part of similar walls and rocks. These are like the sound of bells, in whose tolling, you hear names and words that your imagination conjures up.&#8221;</p>
<p>In the end, I might superficially liken abstract art to something like the &#8220;Magic Eye&#8221; optical illusions. Some people cannot manage to see the images in the &#8220;Magic Eye&#8221; illusions, but those of us who can know full well that they are there. Some might not be able to truly see all of what&#8217;s in Abstract Expressionist works or related styles, but make no mistake, the value is there.</p>
<p>Jasper</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baby Weems was another great artist, from 1940. He could paint, write, play music. Apparently a high fever put a stop to his talents. Does anyone remember Baby Weems today?

Alan Ladd tells his story:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI-6ZpucRH8
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baby Weems was another great artist, from 1940. He could paint, write, play music. Apparently a high fever put a stop to his talents. Does anyone remember Baby Weems today?</p>
<p>Alan Ladd tells his story:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI-6ZpucRH8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI-6ZpucRH8</a></p>
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		<title>By: snapdragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>snapdragon</dc:creator>
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		<description>Shame on you folks.  Of course this is art, in its purest expression.  Art is not something we learn in college (and we most certainly don&#039;t learn it in our public school system, which usually does not even recognize it as a priority).  Art does not necessarily come from pain and angst; it can just as easily, and often more naturally, arise from joy.  That being said, whatever gave you the idea that four year olds do not experience a variety of emotions, from love and joy, to sadness?  Are we really so cynical and lacking in knowledge of child development that we believe four year olds are just blobs, with nothing to express?  Sure, a lot of four-year-olds could create like this if they were given the opportunity, and it is unfortunate that most of them don&#039;t have that chance.  Calling this &quot;abstract art&quot; and saying that you don&#039;t like abstract art is just silly.  Most children don&#039;t begin creating representational art until they are five or so. Before that time, art arises from a more pure impulse that Jackson Pollack had to get raging drunk in order to access and express.  
On a final note--the parents&#039; choice to celebrate and exhibit their child&#039;s creations is helping to validate what this little girl is doing.  How can that be bad, really?  I wish my parents had done that for me.  This differs from exhibiting one&#039;s child in a beauty pageant in that the pageant draws attention to physical, surface beauty (usually judged by overly stylized and/or sexualized adult standards, as well as forcing children to compete with each other), while the art exhibit celebrates what the child herself has created.  Is she, indeed, a prodigy?  That hardly matters. What matters is that her parents have both the sensitivity AND the money to nourish their child&#039;s talent. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on you folks.  Of course this is art, in its purest expression.  Art is not something we learn in college (and we most certainly don&#8217;t learn it in our public school system, which usually does not even recognize it as a priority).  Art does not necessarily come from pain and angst; it can just as easily, and often more naturally, arise from joy.  That being said, whatever gave you the idea that four year olds do not experience a variety of emotions, from love and joy, to sadness?  Are we really so cynical and lacking in knowledge of child development that we believe four year olds are just blobs, with nothing to express?  Sure, a lot of four-year-olds could create like this if they were given the opportunity, and it is unfortunate that most of them don&#8217;t have that chance.  Calling this &#8220;abstract art&#8221; and saying that you don&#8217;t like abstract art is just silly.  Most children don&#8217;t begin creating representational art until they are five or so. Before that time, art arises from a more pure impulse that Jackson Pollack had to get raging drunk in order to access and express.<br />
On a final note&#8211;the parents&#8217; choice to celebrate and exhibit their child&#8217;s creations is helping to validate what this little girl is doing.  How can that be bad, really?  I wish my parents had done that for me.  This differs from exhibiting one&#8217;s child in a beauty pageant in that the pageant draws attention to physical, surface beauty (usually judged by overly stylized and/or sexualized adult standards, as well as forcing children to compete with each other), while the art exhibit celebrates what the child herself has created.  Is she, indeed, a prodigy?  That hardly matters. What matters is that her parents have both the sensitivity AND the money to nourish their child&#8217;s talent. </p>
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		<title>By: mtdna</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheesh, a 4 year old could do that. Oh, wait...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheesh, a 4 year old could do that. Oh, wait&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>&quot;Without explaining who Aelita was or about her age, her mother showed some examples of her art to the curator of an exhibition ... he was ... impressed ... Once the identity of the artist was explained to him, he remained undaunted â€“ the quality of the work proved that it should be included in the exhibition ...&quot;

I&#039;ll bet the unidentified curator who was &quot;impressed&quot;  -- if he or she actually exists -- is breathing a sigh of relief about now.  A little breathless PR, and poof, a curator who can&#039;t tell the coached scribblings of a four-year-old from mature art is miraculously transformed into the genius who discovered a prodigy.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Without explaining who Aelita was or about her age, her mother showed some examples of her art to the curator of an exhibition &#8230; he was &#8230; impressed &#8230; Once the identity of the artist was explained to him, he remained undaunted â€“ the quality of the work proved that it should be included in the exhibition &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet the unidentified curator who was &#8220;impressed&#8221;  &#8212; if he or she actually exists &#8212; is breathing a sigh of relief about now.  A little breathless PR, and poof, a curator who can&#8217;t tell the coached scribblings of a four-year-old from mature art is miraculously transformed into the genius who discovered a prodigy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>Damn, that&#039;s a lot of money on each of those canvases. Hopefully they&#039;ll sell and her parents can make their money back.

I have kids. I cannot afford to spend thousands of dollars to allow them to explore like this. I think this really comes down to the parents being able to afford the supplies and a space to paint. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, that&#8217;s a lot of money on each of those canvases. Hopefully they&#8217;ll sell and her parents can make their money back.</p>
<p>I have kids. I cannot afford to spend thousands of dollars to allow them to explore like this. I think this really comes down to the parents being able to afford the supplies and a space to paint. </p>
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		<title>By: DeepNorth</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worth watching the documentary about Marla Olmstead titled &quot;My Kid Could Paint That&quot;. I actually preferred her work to that shown here, but at the same time think they both call into question the relevance of some abstract art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worth watching the documentary about Marla Olmstead titled &#8220;My Kid Could Paint That&#8221;. I actually preferred her work to that shown here, but at the same time think they both call into question the relevance of some abstract art.</p>
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		<title>By: Lobster</title>
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		<description>Yeah, um... seriously, isn&#039;t this what four year olds do?  Even if this IS legitimate art and she is legitimately putting an emotion to canvas... she&#039;s four.  What could she POSSIBLY have to express?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, um&#8230; seriously, isn&#8217;t this what four year olds do?  Even if this IS legitimate art and she is legitimately putting an emotion to canvas&#8230; she&#8217;s four.  What could she POSSIBLY have to express?</p>
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		<title>By: knoxblox</title>
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		<description>They&#039;re going to have to have a mighty big refrigerator to hang those large canvases upon.

As for me, I&#039;m wondering when somebody&#039;s actually going to pop out a prodigy engineer, mechanic, or lawyer (historically, hasn&#039;t there been a couple of prodigy physicist-mathematicians already?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re going to have to have a mighty big refrigerator to hang those large canvases upon.</p>
<p>As for me, I&#8217;m wondering when somebody&#8217;s actually going to pop out a prodigy engineer, mechanic, or lawyer (historically, hasn&#8217;t there been a couple of prodigy physicist-mathematicians already?).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>I think the best thing about this is as others have said, the freedom, being totally free to just play and have fun with what shes doing. So long as shes enjoying it, then even if her parents are selling works, i doubt she even really grasps the whole capitalist thing yet, so its of no bother to her.

I often wish we were more free in our lives then we are. What i mean is that when you get to teenager years, it seems peer pressure comes into play. Its great shes innocent to the world, and able to be in the moments of creating the works... She&#039;s going to love looking back at this time i hope.

I was Stuck infront of the TV untill about the age of 14, when i awoke to thoughts that the world of books is something i should get into more, and try and travel as much as possible. 12 years later, im glad i got that sudden inspiration.

I hope her all the best with her future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the best thing about this is as others have said, the freedom, being totally free to just play and have fun with what shes doing. So long as shes enjoying it, then even if her parents are selling works, i doubt she even really grasps the whole capitalist thing yet, so its of no bother to her.</p>
<p>I often wish we were more free in our lives then we are. What i mean is that when you get to teenager years, it seems peer pressure comes into play. Its great shes innocent to the world, and able to be in the moments of creating the works&#8230; She&#8217;s going to love looking back at this time i hope.</p>
<p>I was Stuck infront of the TV untill about the age of 14, when i awoke to thoughts that the world of books is something i should get into more, and try and travel as much as possible. 12 years later, im glad i got that sudden inspiration.</p>
<p>I hope her all the best with her future.</p>
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		<title>By: designchild25</title>
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		<description>The way i feel about this is that art evokes an emotion.  If her paintings were not art, no one would care about this article and there would be no comments. So if it pisses you off that she&#039;s only four and that her art looks like &quot;your kid could do that&quot;, then it&#039;s an emotion, and she has succedded.  It&#039;s alllll subjective, especially to the viewer.

Me personally, I do believe that she shows more maturity in her creations (I believe someone said something above about how other four year olds would just cover the whole canvas if given the opportunity).  The compositions aren&#039;t terrible and her color choices are more sophisticated that someone else her age.  I did find it interesting to watch her paint. I&#039;ve seen most children her age either stick to drawing figuratively (you know &quot;this is my house, this is my dog, this is a flower&quot;) or they grind down on the crayon as hard as they can with scribbles. But watching her, it does at times feel like she really is giving some thought to where she puts down what.  It&#039;s hard to tell, however, because not many four-year-olds are given the freedom that she has been given.

But a prodigy? I lean more towards no.  I mean, it&#039;s not likely that she fully understands artistic elements that aren&#039;t subjective, like form, space or line.  She&#039;s doing what any four-year-old given that amount of freedom and paint would do: slinging it everywhere.  But to her, she is making art.  Probably not exhibition worthy art, but art nonetheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way i feel about this is that art evokes an emotion.  If her paintings were not art, no one would care about this article and there would be no comments. So if it pisses you off that she&#8217;s only four and that her art looks like &#8220;your kid could do that&#8221;, then it&#8217;s an emotion, and she has succedded.  It&#8217;s alllll subjective, especially to the viewer.</p>
<p>Me personally, I do believe that she shows more maturity in her creations (I believe someone said something above about how other four year olds would just cover the whole canvas if given the opportunity).  The compositions aren&#8217;t terrible and her color choices are more sophisticated that someone else her age.  I did find it interesting to watch her paint. I&#8217;ve seen most children her age either stick to drawing figuratively (you know &#8220;this is my house, this is my dog, this is a flower&#8221;) or they grind down on the crayon as hard as they can with scribbles. But watching her, it does at times feel like she really is giving some thought to where she puts down what.  It&#8217;s hard to tell, however, because not many four-year-olds are given the freedom that she has been given.</p>
<p>But a prodigy? I lean more towards no.  I mean, it&#8217;s not likely that she fully understands artistic elements that aren&#8217;t subjective, like form, space or line.  She&#8217;s doing what any four-year-old given that amount of freedom and paint would do: slinging it everywhere.  But to her, she is making art.  Probably not exhibition worthy art, but art nonetheless.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comments of seething nerd envy being posted here are to be expected.  I think it&#039;s awesome she has patrons as cool as her parents.  The point of art is freedom of expression.</description>
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		<title>By: knoxblox</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/24/internationally-know.html#comment-1119271</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hating broccoli, perhaps?</description>
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		<title>By: strange_owl</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this is how we turn children into insufferable, entitled adults...</description>
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		<title>By: irksome</title>
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		<dc:creator>irksome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone poops.</description>
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		<title>By: designchild25</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/24/internationally-know.html#comment-1119529</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said :)</description>
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		<title>By: stuiethegod</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a jaded artist who just graduated and got his BFA when I saw this post all it did was remind me why I abandoned traditional art mediums freshman year. I don&#039;t have time to read all the comments but I just had to put my two cents in real quick. I don&#039;t know the whole history of this child, but in a lot of ways she&#039;s kinda like a child actor. Her success is the product of her parents investment... I don&#039;t really care about the &#039;is this art&#039; debate, because that&#039;s just leads to an endless stream of bullsh**t. I&#039;m more concerned with what&#039;s gonna happen to this child as she gets older.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a jaded artist who just graduated and got his BFA when I saw this post all it did was remind me why I abandoned traditional art mediums freshman year. I don&#8217;t have time to read all the comments but I just had to put my two cents in real quick. I don&#8217;t know the whole history of this child, but in a lot of ways she&#8217;s kinda like a child actor. Her success is the product of her parents investment&#8230; I don&#8217;t really care about the &#8216;is this art&#8217; debate, because that&#8217;s just leads to an endless stream of bullsh**t. I&#8217;m more concerned with what&#8217;s gonna happen to this child as she gets older.</p>
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		<title>By: signsofrain</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/24/internationally-know.html#comment-1119278</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might be interesting! I believe that I can remember my first literally self-aware thought. I was four years old, standing watching the bathtub fill and I thought to myself &quot;My name is signsofrain and I&#039;m four years old&quot;

You&#039;re really starting to have a personality at that age... a visualization of the emotions and mentation of someone that age would have relevant things to communicate to all of us.

But I pretty much have a hard time believing that there is any artistic &lt;i&gt;intent&lt;/i&gt; behind her work. I wonder if that matters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be interesting! I believe that I can remember my first literally self-aware thought. I was four years old, standing watching the bathtub fill and I thought to myself &#8220;My name is signsofrain and I&#8217;m four years old&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re really starting to have a personality at that age&#8230; a visualization of the emotions and mentation of someone that age would have relevant things to communicate to all of us.</p>
<p>But I pretty much have a hard time believing that there is any artistic <i>intent</i> behind her work. I wonder if that matters?</p>
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		<title>By: randomguy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does seem, um, interesting that this &quot;prodigy&quot; is painting in a genre well-suited to 4 year olds. Or chimpanzees. Or, I don&#039;t know, 4 year old chimpanzees. I mean, don&#039;t get me wrong, you either like abstract expressionist art or you don&#039;t and you can argue that great works of abstract impressionism take as much talent as great works in other categories. But if this 4 year old was painting something, anything, that didn&#039;t look entirely derivative of Pollock (and I&#039;m not suggesting that she even knows who he was) or similar artists then I might be mildly impressed.
I suppose, on the flispide, at least she&#039;s not eating the paint. So that&#039;s gotta be a step in the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does seem, um, interesting that this &#8220;prodigy&#8221; is painting in a genre well-suited to 4 year olds. Or chimpanzees. Or, I don&#8217;t know, 4 year old chimpanzees. I mean, don&#8217;t get me wrong, you either like abstract expressionist art or you don&#8217;t and you can argue that great works of abstract impressionism take as much talent as great works in other categories. But if this 4 year old was painting something, anything, that didn&#8217;t look entirely derivative of Pollock (and I&#8217;m not suggesting that she even knows who he was) or similar artists then I might be mildly impressed.<br />
I suppose, on the flispide, at least she&#8217;s not eating the paint. So that&#8217;s gotta be a step in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: yosemite</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This makes me wonder about analogous activities which, if a child performed them, would be difficult to characterize as unequivocally high in quality and indicative of actual talent. Virtuosity in playing an instrument can&#039;t be faked. Ditto with writing skills, which require technique.

In other words, I think no one would doubt that a 4yo child playing Bach on a piano or a guitar is a prodigy (or at least clearly in the discussion). Same for a 4yo child who can solve extremely difficult calculus problems. Where it gets dodgy is when the skill/work/product shows no evidence of any... well, mastery. Math has demonstrable principles and proofs. &quot;Art&quot; also has principles of some sort, be they rhythms or patterns or narratives. There is of course also irony, and reaction to these patterns and principles, which can be &quot;art&quot;, though with requisite referentiality or self-referentiality--i.e., the artist is aware of what she is doing. 

As for the desirability of the creative space, and how difficult it is to reach that space of creative freedom, that doesn&#039;t obviate having the skill, knowledge, and techniques to actually create.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes me wonder about analogous activities which, if a child performed them, would be difficult to characterize as unequivocally high in quality and indicative of actual talent. Virtuosity in playing an instrument can&#8217;t be faked. Ditto with writing skills, which require technique.</p>
<p>In other words, I think no one would doubt that a 4yo child playing Bach on a piano or a guitar is a prodigy (or at least clearly in the discussion). Same for a 4yo child who can solve extremely difficult calculus problems. Where it gets dodgy is when the skill/work/product shows no evidence of any&#8230; well, mastery. Math has demonstrable principles and proofs. &#8220;Art&#8221; also has principles of some sort, be they rhythms or patterns or narratives. There is of course also irony, and reaction to these patterns and principles, which can be &#8220;art&#8221;, though with requisite referentiality or self-referentiality&#8211;i.e., the artist is aware of what she is doing. </p>
<p>As for the desirability of the creative space, and how difficult it is to reach that space of creative freedom, that doesn&#8217;t obviate having the skill, knowledge, and techniques to actually create.</p>
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		<title>By: taranoid</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first I was &gt;:[
But then I was like :o

If anyone should be an abstract expressionist, who better than a 4 year old?</description>
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But then I was like :o</p>
<p>If anyone should be an abstract expressionist, who better than a 4 year old?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes me wonder if almost any child could/would do the same thing given these materials, a place to do it, and parents that don&#039;t mind the mess.</description>
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		<title>By: andyhavens</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a prodigy/savant in an art medium or musical instrument that hasn&#039;t been invented yet. I can just *feel* it.

I mean... couldn&#039;t there have been piano savants born before the invention of the piano? So I&#039;m a Xyflogranzic genius... just born 1,209 years to soon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a prodigy/savant in an art medium or musical instrument that hasn&#8217;t been invented yet. I can just *feel* it.</p>
<p>I mean&#8230; couldn&#8217;t there have been piano savants born before the invention of the piano? So I&#8217;m a Xyflogranzic genius&#8230; just born 1,209 years to soon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: greebo</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More importantly, look at that fabulous space she has for expressing herself! We should give every 4 year old such an opportunity. For most other kids, the pressure to conform has already started. They&#039;re being pressured into coloring inside the lines, giving the correct answers when shown flashcards, and crap like that. Go Aelita&#039;s parents!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More importantly, look at that fabulous space she has for expressing herself! We should give every 4 year old such an opportunity. For most other kids, the pressure to conform has already started. They&#8217;re being pressured into coloring inside the lines, giving the correct answers when shown flashcards, and crap like that. Go Aelita&#8217;s parents!!</p>
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		<title>By: Calamanas</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/24/internationally-know.html#comment-1119289</link>
		<dc:creator>Calamanas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best part of this is the campy music and the ejaculatory spurts of paint. It makes me think of Youtube videos of cats with inspirational music.

I admit I&#039;ve long had trouble with some abstract art, but on some level I find I&#039;m able to look at a piece of work and recognize it as Art (due disclaimer: whatever the hell &quot;Art&quot; is). 

This? This is spurts of paint on a canvas. I thought it looked pretty nice until it zoomed in on one of the canvases and you could see how the paint was caked on, crusty and layered. It suddenly became far less appealing once I was reminded of how...well, crummy it is.

What I find more impressive (and important) is how much she obviously loves painting. Those canvases must take ages to paint, even with her method, and it&#039;s mighty cool that a 4-year old can focus for that long on something. 

I just hope her parents get absolutely nothing for this, OR they put everything away for her to use later. If that&#039;s all good, then carry on, mini Pink Jackson Pollack. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best part of this is the campy music and the ejaculatory spurts of paint. It makes me think of Youtube videos of cats with inspirational music.</p>
<p>I admit I&#8217;ve long had trouble with some abstract art, but on some level I find I&#8217;m able to look at a piece of work and recognize it as Art (due disclaimer: whatever the hell &#8220;Art&#8221; is). </p>
<p>This? This is spurts of paint on a canvas. I thought it looked pretty nice until it zoomed in on one of the canvases and you could see how the paint was caked on, crusty and layered. It suddenly became far less appealing once I was reminded of how&#8230;well, crummy it is.</p>
<p>What I find more impressive (and important) is how much she obviously loves painting. Those canvases must take ages to paint, even with her method, and it&#8217;s mighty cool that a 4-year old can focus for that long on something. </p>
<p>I just hope her parents get absolutely nothing for this, OR they put everything away for her to use later. If that&#8217;s all good, then carry on, mini Pink Jackson Pollack. </p>
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		<title>By: cymk</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to the parents who let their daughter explore her creativity, but claiming Aelita is anything but a creative 4 year old is presumptuous. Saddling her burden of &quot;prodigy&quot; is almost as bad as stifling her creativity all together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to the parents who let their daughter explore her creativity, but claiming Aelita is anything but a creative 4 year old is presumptuous. Saddling her burden of &#8220;prodigy&#8221; is almost as bad as stifling her creativity all together.</p>
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		<title>By: DirkSJ</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me art has to satisfy a certain tests to really be art and not just a 4 year old spreading paint on a canvas.  

The artist, prior to making the work, must say to themselves:  I am going to create this art, X, and it will evoke Y in people that experience it.  I would also accept that they start making X before they fully know what Y is...but they have an idea.

Then they create X.  It may not take shape exactly as they planned it but regardless they create the piece and do their best to evoke Y.

Then they show it to people.  People say, wow, that&#039;s such a good representation of Y WITHOUT having to be told beforehand that X is meant to be about Y.

Another way to put the above is that the artist must show evident skill in evoking a reaction they intend.  

I also have a place in my world for art that is simply photo-realistic.  Though I guess then it&#039;s more a craft than an art.  Again though it&#039;s about showing skill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me art has to satisfy a certain tests to really be art and not just a 4 year old spreading paint on a canvas.  </p>
<p>The artist, prior to making the work, must say to themselves:  I am going to create this art, X, and it will evoke Y in people that experience it.  I would also accept that they start making X before they fully know what Y is&#8230;but they have an idea.</p>
<p>Then they create X.  It may not take shape exactly as they planned it but regardless they create the piece and do their best to evoke Y.</p>
<p>Then they show it to people.  People say, wow, that&#8217;s such a good representation of Y WITHOUT having to be told beforehand that X is meant to be about Y.</p>
<p>Another way to put the above is that the artist must show evident skill in evoking a reaction they intend.  </p>
<p>I also have a place in my world for art that is simply photo-realistic.  Though I guess then it&#8217;s more a craft than an art.  Again though it&#8217;s about showing skill.</p>
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		<title>By: kylerconway</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The finished artworks do demonstrate an amount of restraint though. That&#039;s something most 4 year olds I know don&#039;t have (they&#039;d just cover the whole canvas). I always wonder how much outside intervention there is with such young children/artists. I actually really like the work and find much of it evocative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The finished artworks do demonstrate an amount of restraint though. That&#8217;s something most 4 year olds I know don&#8217;t have (they&#8217;d just cover the whole canvas). I always wonder how much outside intervention there is with such young children/artists. I actually really like the work and find much of it evocative.</p>
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