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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123328</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have we no fax machines? Email? The pres can sign documents outside the White House. </description>
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		<title>By: CLP</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123078</link>
		<dc:creator>CLP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. They should set up a way for the president to digitally sign bills or executive orders for situations like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. They should set up a way for the president to digitally sign bills or executive orders for situations like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1124616</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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That&#039;s literally unbelievable
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http://www.theonion.com/articles/45-more-legislators-lose-jobs-to-increased-congres,1424/
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s literally unbelievable<br />
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<a href="http://www.theonion.com/articles/45-more-legislators-lose-jobs-to-increased-congres,1424/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theonion.com/articles/45-more-legislators-lose-jobs-to-increased-congres,1424/</a></p>
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		<title>By: DaveP</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123082</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice dream.  how about, if he really didn&#039;t want to sign it, he just wouldn&#039;t sign it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice dream.  how about, if he really didn&#8217;t want to sign it, he just wouldn&#8217;t sign it?</p>
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		<title>By: shanghaied</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123085</link>
		<dc:creator>shanghaied</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s certainly interesting to see how modern technology and millennia-old traditions intersect. Specifically, it&#039;s astonishing to see how much importance is placed on a signature, the easiest thing in the world to forge, even in this day and age. For example, here in Europe it&#039;s quite common to be asked to sign a credit card receipt instead of using a PIN, especially at bars and restaurants, even when dealing with $100+. It&#039;s mind-boggling that signatures are still deemed good enough when safer verification methods abound.

On the other hand, I also assume that it is highly unlikely that anyone else can sign a bill into law without the President&#039;s consent and remain undiscovered. So why jump through the autopen hoop? Why can he not do so verbally and have a clerk put his opinion on paper? Especially since it&#039;s quite common for the Congress to vote using voice votes.

Still, this is the least scandalous aspect of the whole sordid affair. I assume that he could not have acted otherwise. The choice would have otherwise been between being attacked for not caring enough about the nation&#039;s security to sign the bill immediately, or being attacked for wasting tax-payer money on trans-Atlantic flights/couriers in this time of deficits. Don&#039;t get worked up by the autopen, vote for better representatives instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s certainly interesting to see how modern technology and millennia-old traditions intersect. Specifically, it&#8217;s astonishing to see how much importance is placed on a signature, the easiest thing in the world to forge, even in this day and age. For example, here in Europe it&#8217;s quite common to be asked to sign a credit card receipt instead of using a PIN, especially at bars and restaurants, even when dealing with $100+. It&#8217;s mind-boggling that signatures are still deemed good enough when safer verification methods abound.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I also assume that it is highly unlikely that anyone else can sign a bill into law without the President&#8217;s consent and remain undiscovered. So why jump through the autopen hoop? Why can he not do so verbally and have a clerk put his opinion on paper? Especially since it&#8217;s quite common for the Congress to vote using voice votes.</p>
<p>Still, this is the least scandalous aspect of the whole sordid affair. I assume that he could not have acted otherwise. The choice would have otherwise been between being attacked for not caring enough about the nation&#8217;s security to sign the bill immediately, or being attacked for wasting tax-payer money on trans-Atlantic flights/couriers in this time of deficits. Don&#8217;t get worked up by the autopen, vote for better representatives instead.</p>
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		<title>By: MandoSpaz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123087</link>
		<dc:creator>MandoSpaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose a fax or email of the bill printed out for an actual signature would have been too much to ask in this day and age?  

Who, pray tell, is so concerned about affixing a particular signature to a particular bunch of unConstitutionalily as to use a mechanical pseudo-siganture?
 
I grieve for a former republic. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose a fax or email of the bill printed out for an actual signature would have been too much to ask in this day and age?  </p>
<p>Who, pray tell, is so concerned about affixing a particular signature to a particular bunch of unConstitutionalily as to use a mechanical pseudo-siganture?</p>
<p>I grieve for a former republic. </p>
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		<title>By: Alvis</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123090</link>
		<dc:creator>Alvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to use one of these at the university I worked for, to sign the president&#039;s signature to letters to donors.

The entire surface you see there opens up to reveal a large C-shaped disc, a few feet in diameter.  The discs have a wavy pattern on the inner and outer edges, and a raised ridge in the middle.  

When you use the machine, it rotates the C-shape under the area where the pen is. Two arms translate the amplitude of the waves on each edge of the disc into X-Y pen movement, and the center ridge controls when the pen is raised and lowered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to use one of these at the university I worked for, to sign the president&#8217;s signature to letters to donors.</p>
<p>The entire surface you see there opens up to reveal a large C-shaped disc, a few feet in diameter.  The discs have a wavy pattern on the inner and outer edges, and a raised ridge in the middle.  </p>
<p>When you use the machine, it rotates the C-shape under the area where the pen is. Two arms translate the amplitude of the waves on each edge of the disc into X-Y pen movement, and the center ridge controls when the pen is raised and lowered.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123094</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s petty for the Republicans to be making the autopen an issue. If the Republicans finally want to start a fight with Obama about something, perhaps they could try the $14 trillion in deficits, or the raiding of the pension funds to avoid the debt ceiling, or the three wars, or the open southern border, or the economy currently in shambles here or the foreign policy disasters or the fact that Obama caused the Democrats to lose 800+ seats last November. 

But I won&#039;t be holding my breath for this because no one has heard from the Republicans in any substantial way since they took the House. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s petty for the Republicans to be making the autopen an issue. If the Republicans finally want to start a fight with Obama about something, perhaps they could try the $14 trillion in deficits, or the raiding of the pension funds to avoid the debt ceiling, or the three wars, or the open southern border, or the economy currently in shambles here or the foreign policy disasters or the fact that Obama caused the Democrats to lose 800+ seats last November. </p>
<p>But I won&#8217;t be holding my breath for this because no one has heard from the Republicans in any substantial way since they took the House. </p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123095</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Presidents set up autopens at the beginning of their term (or rather, White House staff do) so they don&#039;t have to spends days and days signing Christmas cards, photos, etc. Any set-up needed for the autopen was done years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Presidents set up autopens at the beginning of their term (or rather, White House staff do) so they don&#8217;t have to spends days and days signing Christmas cards, photos, etc. Any set-up needed for the autopen was done years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123352</link>
		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to wonder why the President left the country, necessitating the use of the Autopen, when everybody knew the PATRIOT authorities were expiring. I mean, if it hadn&#039;t passed, wouldn&#039;t it have been a good idea for him to be nearby in case there was an instantaneous terrorist attack? The risk couldn&#039;t have been that great, one way or another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to wonder why the President left the country, necessitating the use of the Autopen, when everybody knew the PATRIOT authorities were expiring. I mean, if it hadn&#8217;t passed, wouldn&#8217;t it have been a good idea for him to be nearby in case there was an instantaneous terrorist attack? The risk couldn&#8217;t have been that great, one way or another.</p>
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		<title>By: petsounds</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123098</link>
		<dc:creator>petsounds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The whole concept of having to sign things is so antiquated to me.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think it keeps a certain bit of tradition, and it seems it would make a President just a bit more aware by signing his John Hancock to a law rather than clicking a button. It&#039;s a bit harder to forge a signature than hack the autopen. I do also agree with the Senator, considering the John Ashcroft scenario of cabinet members trying to coerce him while drugged up. But perhaps it doesn&#039;t make a difference.

For some reason, by contrast I&#039;m a huge advocate of internet-based public voting.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The whole concept of having to sign things is so antiquated to me.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think it keeps a certain bit of tradition, and it seems it would make a President just a bit more aware by signing his John Hancock to a law rather than clicking a button. It&#8217;s a bit harder to forge a signature than hack the autopen. I do also agree with the Senator, considering the John Ashcroft scenario of cabinet members trying to coerce him while drugged up. But perhaps it doesn&#8217;t make a difference.</p>
<p>For some reason, by contrast I&#8217;m a huge advocate of internet-based public voting.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam125</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123105</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam125</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This latest GOP whinefest highlights everything wrong with the party.  The old farts in the GOP are more concerned with following procedure than actually addressing the fact that the Patriot Act does away with due process which is a major check of the judicial branch.  I&#039;m glad the President used an auto-pen to show how little he cares about the bill, because having the bill sunset was probably out of the question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This latest GOP whinefest highlights everything wrong with the party.  The old farts in the GOP are more concerned with following procedure than actually addressing the fact that the Patriot Act does away with due process which is a major check of the judicial branch.  I&#8217;m glad the President used an auto-pen to show how little he cares about the bill, because having the bill sunset was probably out of the question.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123362</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless it&#039;s Woodrow Wilson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless it&#8217;s Woodrow Wilson.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123110</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it a surprise to anyone that the guy who voted present, the guy who said he disagreed with a right to own hand guns and then had a &quot;wait that wasn&#039;t me who filled out that paper, it was an assistant&quot; moment would also refuse to put his hand to the signature of something he and his political allies (and opponents) rallied against in the campaign?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it a surprise to anyone that the guy who voted present, the guy who said he disagreed with a right to own hand guns and then had a &#8220;wait that wasn&#8217;t me who filled out that paper, it was an assistant&#8221; moment would also refuse to put his hand to the signature of something he and his political allies (and opponents) rallied against in the campaign?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why didn&#039;t he just sign it before he left? He knew when the Patriot Act was going to expire. Truly, Obama is a nOOb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didn&#8217;t he just sign it before he left? He knew when the Patriot Act was going to expire. Truly, Obama is a nOOb.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123115</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm...could the autopen been used to sign his birth certificate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm&#8230;could the autopen been used to sign his birth certificate?</p>
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		<title>By: Bass</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123118</link>
		<dc:creator>Bass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#039;m glad the President used an auto-pen to show how little he cares about the bill&quot;

HUH?  Nice projection there!

Maybe you missed this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/26/patriot-act-extension-white-house_n_867608.html

&quot;With the national security law set to expire at midnight on Thursday, the Obama administration has applied intense pressure to congressional lawmakers to finalize an extension without any lapse.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m glad the President used an auto-pen to show how little he cares about the bill&#8221;</p>
<p>HUH?  Nice projection there!</p>
<p>Maybe you missed this:<br />
<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/26/patriot-act-extension-white-house_n_867608.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/26/patriot-act-extension-white-house_n_867608.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;With the national security law set to expire at midnight on Thursday, the Obama administration has applied intense pressure to congressional lawmakers to finalize an extension without any lapse.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: franko</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123126</link>
		<dc:creator>franko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m with Tdawwg (#12) here. i don&#039;t see any problem with this -- on the contrary, i find it fascinating. what i DO find distressing is all the people bending over backwards and trying to use this as another excuse to dogpile on the president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m with Tdawwg (#12) here. i don&#8217;t see any problem with this &#8212; on the contrary, i find it fascinating. what i DO find distressing is all the people bending over backwards and trying to use this as another excuse to dogpile on the president.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam125</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123128</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam125</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the President himself, not his administration.  Lets face it.  When you&#039;re at the top you have to let your administration do things that are pretty repulsive to your own personal values.  Am I projecting?  No, I&#039;m speculating.  Get the two straight. OK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the President himself, not his administration.  Lets face it.  When you&#8217;re at the top you have to let your administration do things that are pretty repulsive to your own personal values.  Am I projecting?  No, I&#8217;m speculating.  Get the two straight. OK?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrorism is the use of violence or threat of violence to control people whereas Government is the use of violence or threat of violence to control people.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrorism is the use of violence or threat of violence to control people whereas Government is the use of violence or threat of violence to control people.</p>
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		<title>By: weldeng</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123135</link>
		<dc:creator>weldeng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just picturing Nixon&#039;s head from Futurama signing a bill.</description>
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		<title>By: Bass</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123142</link>
		<dc:creator>Bass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does projecting equal speculating.
maybe, maybe not.

but you&#039;re most likely assuming Obama believes the same way you do.

&quot;When you&#039;re at the top you have to let your administration do things that are pretty repulsive to your own personal values.&quot;

I disagree, especially if you at the top.  you get to call the shots not those under you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does projecting equal speculating.<br />
maybe, maybe not.</p>
<p>but you&#8217;re most likely assuming Obama believes the same way you do.</p>
<p>&#8220;When you&#8217;re at the top you have to let your administration do things that are pretty repulsive to your own personal values.&#8221;</p>
<p>I disagree, especially if you at the top.  you get to call the shots not those under you.</p>
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		<title>By: phosphorious</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123148</link>
		<dc:creator>phosphorious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The objection to the use of the autopen is ridiculous, and proof that conservatives are insane.

Signing this bill proves that Obama is NOT a terrorists loving, socialist Kenyan who hates America.  It proves he&#039;s a center right conservative. . .  who hates America.

But conservatives have to attack him for something.  They approve of the bill, so they have to attack. . . &lt;i&gt; the method of signing it&lt;/i&gt;.

Tom Graves is insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The objection to the use of the autopen is ridiculous, and proof that conservatives are insane.</p>
<p>Signing this bill proves that Obama is NOT a terrorists loving, socialist Kenyan who hates America.  It proves he&#8217;s a center right conservative. . .  who hates America.</p>
<p>But conservatives have to attack him for something.  They approve of the bill, so they have to attack. . . <i> the method of signing it</i>.</p>
<p>Tom Graves is insane.</p>
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		<title>By: benher</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123404</link>
		<dc:creator>benher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The very existence of something like the autopen demonstrates just how important dog-and-pony shows are to Americans. Does a signature from the puppet of the oligarchs really mean anything? The fact that it&#039;s mechanized is depressing to be sure, but at this stage really, who gives a damn anymore? 

Did anyone really drink enough faerie kool-aid to believe that the Patriot Act wouldn&#039;t be renewed under any Prezident?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The very existence of something like the autopen demonstrates just how important dog-and-pony shows are to Americans. Does a signature from the puppet of the oligarchs really mean anything? The fact that it&#8217;s mechanized is depressing to be sure, but at this stage really, who gives a damn anymore? </p>
<p>Did anyone really drink enough faerie kool-aid to believe that the Patriot Act wouldn&#8217;t be renewed under any Prezident?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123149</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The autopen signs for him.  The teleprompter speaks for him.  Guess he can go golfing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The autopen signs for him.  The teleprompter speaks for him.  Guess he can go golfing.</p>
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		<title>By: Nylund</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123151</link>
		<dc:creator>Nylund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a fan of the Patriot Act, but my understanding is, its basically impossible to instantly turn off all of the NSA&#039;s surveillance methods.  It&#039;s not like flipping a light switch.  Thus, if it wasn&#039;t signed immediately (ie, before midnight), there would be a period where the NSA was illegally collecting information.  This would have created quite the legal headache.  To avoid this, they used the autopen.

To reiterate, I am no fan of the Patriot Act, but I understand why those that support it pressed for a method that allowed the bill to be signed before midnight.  They did it to avoid causing the NSA to break the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a fan of the Patriot Act, but my understanding is, its basically impossible to instantly turn off all of the NSA&#8217;s surveillance methods.  It&#8217;s not like flipping a light switch.  Thus, if it wasn&#8217;t signed immediately (ie, before midnight), there would be a period where the NSA was illegally collecting information.  This would have created quite the legal headache.  To avoid this, they used the autopen.</p>
<p>To reiterate, I am no fan of the Patriot Act, but I understand why those that support it pressed for a method that allowed the bill to be signed before midnight.  They did it to avoid causing the NSA to break the law.</p>
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		<title>By: CLamb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123154</link>
		<dc:creator>CLamb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The President could&#039;ve had the papers sent to him or just printed out a copy whereever he was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The President could&#8217;ve had the papers sent to him or just printed out a copy whereever he was.</p>
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		<title>By: petsounds</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123160</link>
		<dc:creator>petsounds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having read more about the autopen, I must admit I had made incorrect assumptions about its operation. I thought that it was basically a remote control for a pen -- e.g. the operator uses a digital stylus and this sends control messages over a network to a motorized pen on the other end of the connection. But in fact, it just robotically reproduces a pre-defined signature. This seems somehow less legitimate to me. The system I described would at least capture the spirit of the person signing a document in real-time, but this autopen machine is no better than a rubber stamp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having read more about the autopen, I must admit I had made incorrect assumptions about its operation. I thought that it was basically a remote control for a pen &#8212; e.g. the operator uses a digital stylus and this sends control messages over a network to a motorized pen on the other end of the connection. But in fact, it just robotically reproduces a pre-defined signature. This seems somehow less legitimate to me. The system I described would at least capture the spirit of the person signing a document in real-time, but this autopen machine is no better than a rubber stamp.</p>
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		<title>By: pkstephens</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1123172</link>
		<dc:creator>pkstephens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the sense of unease that Ms. Jardin is highlighting is not primarily technological, but political. The technology in this case is highlighted because of the deadline constraint: if the bill is not passed immediately, bad things happen. So to prevent bad things, we use technology to speed the process and sign the bill into law. 

But I think it is the artificiality of the deadline and the plaintive keening of Congress that is the most unsettling. The deadline was no surprise. The bill could have been written and signed days ago. Weeks ago. Months ago. Years ago. 

But the bill stinks. So they waited until the last possible moment as an excuse to evade public debate. 

They wailed like children who played games until bed and then plead exhaustion when faced with unfinished homework.

It&#039;s not the physical presence of the president&#039;s hand that we miss, it&#039;s the semblance of representation we miss from our representatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the sense of unease that Ms. Jardin is highlighting is not primarily technological, but political. The technology in this case is highlighted because of the deadline constraint: if the bill is not passed immediately, bad things happen. So to prevent bad things, we use technology to speed the process and sign the bill into law. </p>
<p>But I think it is the artificiality of the deadline and the plaintive keening of Congress that is the most unsettling. The deadline was no surprise. The bill could have been written and signed days ago. Weeks ago. Months ago. Years ago. </p>
<p>But the bill stinks. So they waited until the last possible moment as an excuse to evade public debate. </p>
<p>They wailed like children who played games until bed and then plead exhaustion when faced with unfinished homework.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the physical presence of the president&#8217;s hand that we miss, it&#8217;s the semblance of representation we miss from our representatives.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/05/27/about-that-autopen.html#comment-1125480</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most disturbing part of it to me is that he was pretty much saying &quot;Whatever you guys come up with is ok with me...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most disturbing part of it to me is that he was pretty much saying &#8220;Whatever you guys come up with is ok with me&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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