Comments on: Did the U.S. help make Stuxnet? http://boingboing.net/2011/05/29/did-the-us-help-make.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Fri, 24 May 2013 17:15:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Mr. Winka http://boingboing.net/2011/05/29/did-the-us-help-make.html#comment-1124384 Mr. Winka Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1124384 "Whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt. That's the first thing they teach you." “Whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt. That’s the first thing they teach you.”

]]> By: noen http://boingboing.net/2011/05/29/did-the-us-help-make.html#comment-1124390 noen Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1124390 If they did it is certainly preferable to the nuclear tipped bunker buster bombs they were considering using at the time. If they did it is certainly preferable to the nuclear tipped bunker buster bombs they were considering using at the time.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/29/did-the-us-help-make.html#comment-1124211 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1124211 No, that sounds like a natural follow up to his previous answer. To summarise: 'Was the US involved?' 'It's very difficult to attribute this to anyone at the moment.' 'But was the US involved?' 'Like I said we are unable to work that out without further investigation.' Which is really a lot less damning than 'We are unable to confirm or deny...' etc. No, that sounds like a natural follow up to his previous answer. To summarise:

‘Was the US involved?’

‘It’s very difficult to attribute this to anyone at the moment.’

‘But was the US involved?’

‘Like I said we are unable to work that out without further investigation.’

Which is really a lot less damning than ‘We are unable to confirm or deny…’ etc.

]]> By: teapot http://boingboing.net/2011/05/29/did-the-us-help-make.html#comment-1124727 teapot Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1124727 Did BB miss the earlier debate? This "new" commentary from William Lynn is nothing but chaff to confuse serious investigation. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/01/did-a-us-government-lab-help-israel-develop-stuxnet.ars Stuxnet is so incredibly precise, so incredibly careful in maintaining secrecy of its operation and so setup-specific that there is absolutely no doubt that Israel and the US Govt had a hand in creating it. Did BB miss the earlier debate? This “new” commentary from William Lynn is nothing but chaff to confuse serious investigation.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/01/did-a-us-government-lab-help-israel-develop-stuxnet.ars

Stuxnet is so incredibly precise, so incredibly careful in maintaining secrecy of its operation and so setup-specific that there is absolutely no doubt that Israel and the US Govt had a hand in creating it.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/29/did-the-us-help-make.html#comment-1124220 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1124220 So if the US doesn't deny doing it, then isn't the US admitting that they did help make it? So if the US doesn’t deny doing it, then isn’t the US admitting that they did help make it?

]]> By: frankieboy http://boingboing.net/2011/05/29/did-the-us-help-make.html#comment-1124480 frankieboy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1124480 they wish they did it. they wish they did it.

]]> By: emmdeeaych http://boingboing.net/2011/05/29/did-the-us-help-make.html#comment-1124486 emmdeeaych Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1124486 It would be irresponsible NOT to speculate on it It would be irresponsible NOT to speculate on it

]]> By: Eli http://boingboing.net/2011/05/29/did-the-us-help-make.html#comment-1124234 Eli Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1124234 People are reading WAY too much into this. The DoD never confirms or denies covert activities. If they denied the things they didn't do, it would be pretty easy to figure out exactly what they did do. Also, I'm not sure I'd want to publicly disclaim credit for a really impressive hack, even if I had nothing to do with it. People are reading WAY too much into this. The DoD never confirms or denies covert activities. If they denied the things they didn’t do, it would be pretty easy to figure out exactly what they did do.

Also, I’m not sure I’d want to publicly disclaim credit for a really impressive hack, even if I had nothing to do with it.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/05/29/did-the-us-help-make.html#comment-1124237 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1124237 Which means the government has no idea where Stuxnet came from, but finds it advantageous to give the appearance that they had something to do with it. Which means the government has no idea where Stuxnet came from, but finds it advantageous to give the appearance that they had something to do with it.

]]> By: aratuk http://boingboing.net/2011/05/29/did-the-us-help-make.html#comment-1124777 aratuk Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1124777 I think this policy is less about FUD than it is the fact that there are a lot of questions where the answer can be inferred by a process of elimination if you start providing any answers at all to otherwise innocuous sub-questions. However, this guy does sound especially ridiculous with his non-answers. I think this policy is less about FUD than it is the fact that there are a lot of questions where the answer can be inferred by a process of elimination if you start providing any answers at all to otherwise innocuous sub-questions.

However, this guy does sound especially ridiculous with his non-answers.

]]> By: turn_self_off http://boingboing.net/2011/05/29/did-the-us-help-make.html#comment-1124274 turn_self_off Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1124274 Yep, better to feed the FUD about what US military can and can not do then be open about it. Mind games are a big part of the military life at command level. Hell, it was what kept the cold war from boiling over. This because either side was not 100% they could get in a perfect attack without the enemy retaliating. Tho for a time there was some nutcases on either side that found some loss of life (in the order of 2-3 cities worth) to be an acceptable cost related to taking out the enemy... Yep, better to feed the FUD about what US military can and can not do then be open about it. Mind games are a big part of the military life at command level. Hell, it was what kept the cold war from boiling over. This because either side was not 100% they could get in a perfect attack without the enemy retaliating. Tho for a time there was some nutcases on either side that found some loss of life (in the order of 2-3 cities worth) to be an acceptable cost related to taking out the enemy…

]]> By: Bluemoon http://boingboing.net/2011/05/29/did-the-us-help-make.html#comment-1124279 Bluemoon Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1124279 Why do some people have such a hard time telling the difference between a Non answer and a Lie. responsible honest answer: We can't answer that. = we can't confirm that, and we can't deny that. there are too many factors for such a simple response. republican answer: nope Why do some people have such a hard time telling the difference between a Non answer and a Lie.

responsible honest answer: We can’t answer that. = we can’t confirm that, and we can’t deny that. there are too many factors for such a simple response.

republican answer: nope

]]> By: codesuidae http://boingboing.net/2011/05/29/did-the-us-help-make.html#comment-1125841 codesuidae Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1125841 <blockquote>preferable to the nuclear tipped bunker buster bombs</blockquote> Nuclear tipped? What's the rest of it made of?

preferable to the nuclear tipped bunker buster bombs

Nuclear tipped? What’s the rest of it made of?

]]> By: mr_josh http://boingboing.net/2011/05/29/did-the-us-help-make.html#comment-1124328 mr_josh Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1124328 [michael bluth voice]You're still askin' that?[/michael] [michael bluth voice]You’re still askin’ that?[/michael]

]]> By: davejenk1ns http://boingboing.net/2011/05/29/did-the-us-help-make.html#comment-1124346 davejenk1ns Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1124346 Five responses in, and Bluemoon breaks the Partisan barrier. Jenkins Rule, engage! Five responses in, and Bluemoon breaks the Partisan barrier. Jenkins Rule, engage!

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