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	<title>Comments on: Sony hacked again: 1m compromised, claims&#160;LulzSec</title>
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		<title>By: nixiebunny</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128194</link>
		<dc:creator>nixiebunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aha! LulzSec is run by Little Bobby Tables.</description>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128457</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh man, found this too while listening to your link...

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXu6-ddFtEA&quot;&gt;The White Stripes - Dog Eat Dog (live AC/DC cover)&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh man, found this too while listening to your link&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXu6-ddFtEA">The White Stripes &#8211; Dog Eat Dog (live AC/DC cover)</a></p>
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		<title>By: jcnoble2</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128970</link>
		<dc:creator>jcnoble2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sony doesn&#039;t seem to be acknowledging this event. Check out the lulz press release and the sony site side by side using th.isandth.at

http://bit.ly/kbTrDN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sony doesn&#8217;t seem to be acknowledging this event. Check out the lulz press release and the sony site side by side using th.isandth.at</p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/kbTrDN" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/kbTrDN</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nightflyer</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128467</link>
		<dc:creator>Nightflyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If LulzSec can point out a vulnerability in Sony&#039;s data security, that&#039;s one thing. If nobody pointed out security holes, they might never get patched, and getting security holes patched is a good thing.

And I can&#039;t say I have much sympathy for Sony to begin with, considering the rootkit scandal and their repeated failure to fix their own very broken information security procedures.

But-- LulzSec completely lost me when they published the user info they swiped online. Why punish the innocent users for the incompetency of Sony? Now these poor people are even *more* at risk for identity theft, etc. than they originally were from Sony&#039;s malfeasance. If you, or someone you cared about, had ever been a victim of identity theft or credit hijacking, you wouldn&#039;t be cheering this a$$hat move. It can take years to straighten out identity theft and it can thoroughly mess with people&#039;s lives. 

Nope, my sympathies are with the true victims, the users. LulzSec gets no love from me. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If LulzSec can point out a vulnerability in Sony&#8217;s data security, that&#8217;s one thing. If nobody pointed out security holes, they might never get patched, and getting security holes patched is a good thing.</p>
<p>And I can&#8217;t say I have much sympathy for Sony to begin with, considering the rootkit scandal and their repeated failure to fix their own very broken information security procedures.</p>
<p>But&#8211; LulzSec completely lost me when they published the user info they swiped online. Why punish the innocent users for the incompetency of Sony? Now these poor people are even *more* at risk for identity theft, etc. than they originally were from Sony&#8217;s malfeasance. If you, or someone you cared about, had ever been a victim of identity theft or credit hijacking, you wouldn&#8217;t be cheering this a$$hat move. It can take years to straighten out identity theft and it can thoroughly mess with people&#8217;s lives. </p>
<p>Nope, my sympathies are with the true victims, the users. LulzSec gets no love from me. </p>
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		<title>By: Rincewind</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128213</link>
		<dc:creator>Rincewind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t condone LulzSec&#039;s behaviour in any way - but being vulnerable to SQL injection and storing plain text passwords should be made criminal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t condone LulzSec&#8217;s behaviour in any way &#8211; but being vulnerable to SQL injection and storing plain text passwords should be made criminal.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128469</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess LulzSec achieved their goal because Sony&#039;s poor security measures were uncovered, and presumably their security will be better from now on... but what was the point of them posting the passwords, coupons and etc on Pirate Bay?

Their point was already proven when they hacked into Sony.

Also what&#039;s the point of hacking onto all of PBS for only ONE episode of ONE show that put Wikileaks in a negative light?

Hacking a Public Funded Educational TV Station&#039;s website; Really??!!

It seems that these guys think they&#039;re doing a Public service, but they&#039;re really not. They&#039;re just vigilantes trying to justify a hobby.

Also, I know all these analogies get tiring but let me offer another one:
LulzSec is like the new neighbors that justify buying guns because they live in an &quot;unsafe neighborhood&quot;; It&#039;d be safer if they moved out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess LulzSec achieved their goal because Sony&#8217;s poor security measures were uncovered, and presumably their security will be better from now on&#8230; but what was the point of them posting the passwords, coupons and etc on Pirate Bay?</p>
<p>Their point was already proven when they hacked into Sony.</p>
<p>Also what&#8217;s the point of hacking onto all of PBS for only ONE episode of ONE show that put Wikileaks in a negative light?</p>
<p>Hacking a Public Funded Educational TV Station&#8217;s website; Really??!!</p>
<p>It seems that these guys think they&#8217;re doing a Public service, but they&#8217;re really not. They&#8217;re just vigilantes trying to justify a hobby.</p>
<p>Also, I know all these analogies get tiring but let me offer another one:<br />
LulzSec is like the new neighbors that justify buying guns because they live in an &#8220;unsafe neighborhood&#8221;; It&#8217;d be safer if they moved out.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam125</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128470</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam125</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, lucky for Sonypictures Lulzsec would be considered whitehat hackers.  I guess huge multinationals still haven&#039;t learned why AIG failed so hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, lucky for Sonypictures Lulzsec would be considered whitehat hackers.  I guess huge multinationals still haven&#8217;t learned why AIG failed so hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128216</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lulzsec just taking anyone out....for the meme&#039;s at that!  everyone was scared anonymous was gonna hax their stuff.  lulzsec will do it and put a nyan cat on the screensaver to mock you.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lulzsec just taking anyone out&#8230;.for the meme&#8217;s at that!  everyone was scared anonymous was gonna hax their stuff.  lulzsec will do it and put a nyan cat on the screensaver to mock you.  </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128217</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;they were asking for it.&quot; - Where have I heard that before to make a crime okay?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;they were asking for it.&#8221; &#8211; Where have I heard that before to make a crime okay?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128221</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The DOBs of the Sony Pictures account details LULZSEC has published are all pre 1933 ie old possibly vulnerable people. Not funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DOBs of the Sony Pictures account details LULZSEC has published are all pre 1933 ie old possibly vulnerable people. Not funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128227</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually in some states/regions, storing personally identifiable information in plaintext IS a criminal act.  Especially if tied to any personal account information.  

I&#039;m still boggling that the various Sony silos still haven&#039;t bothered to self-check their web presence for exploits.  You&#039;d think that would be job #2 after the latest breach.

  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually in some states/regions, storing personally identifiable information in plaintext IS a criminal act.  Especially if tied to any personal account information.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m still boggling that the various Sony silos still haven&#8217;t bothered to self-check their web presence for exploits.  You&#8217;d think that would be job #2 after the latest breach.</p>
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		<title>By: deckard68</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128483</link>
		<dc:creator>deckard68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if Lulz turns out to be an American, assuming he eventually gets arrested, would he be extradited to Japan? What are Japanese jails like for Americans, anyway? And will his mother be able to afford his legal defense bills, or has he basically just screwed over his family?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if Lulz turns out to be an American, assuming he eventually gets arrested, would he be extradited to Japan? What are Japanese jails like for Americans, anyway? And will his mother be able to afford his legal defense bills, or has he basically just screwed over his family?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128228</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to recall that a division of SONY put root-kits on customers&#039; PCs (Sony&#039;s attempt at enforcing music anti-piracy).

While not exactly moral, it seems fitting that Sony should get a taste of its own medicine.  These corporate guys are just profit driven dick heads.  They won&#039;t even &quot;get it&quot; from this break-in.  They&#039;ll just consider it a cost of doing business.

This lackadaisical approach to ethics is more wide spread than just the entertainment industry.  Recently the FDA announced that they would begin CRIMINAL PROSECUTION of pharmaceutical company executives in an attempt to get their corporations to obey the rules.  Previously, the pharma companies just interpreted FDA fines and penalties (however big) as simply a cost of doing business.

It would be nice to see some other corporate executives rot behind bars!  Start with Wall St CEOs and expand from there.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to recall that a division of SONY put root-kits on customers&#8217; PCs (Sony&#8217;s attempt at enforcing music anti-piracy).</p>
<p>While not exactly moral, it seems fitting that Sony should get a taste of its own medicine.  These corporate guys are just profit driven dick heads.  They won&#8217;t even &#8220;get it&#8221; from this break-in.  They&#8217;ll just consider it a cost of doing business.</p>
<p>This lackadaisical approach to ethics is more wide spread than just the entertainment industry.  Recently the FDA announced that they would begin CRIMINAL PROSECUTION of pharmaceutical company executives in an attempt to get their corporations to obey the rules.  Previously, the pharma companies just interpreted FDA fines and penalties (however big) as simply a cost of doing business.</p>
<p>It would be nice to see some other corporate executives rot behind bars!  Start with Wall St CEOs and expand from there.   </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128490</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harmless?  The company who installed a rootkit backdoor, wide open and just begging to be exploited, on millions of their own customers&#039; computers without their knowledge is HARMLESS?   Uh huh? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harmless?  The company who installed a rootkit backdoor, wide open and just begging to be exploited, on millions of their own customers&#8217; computers without their knowledge is HARMLESS?   Uh huh? </p>
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		<title>By: Spinkter</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128237</link>
		<dc:creator>Spinkter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Negligence enables crime.
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1129006</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sony isn&#039;t the victim. Sony is a faceless and irresponsible corporate entity failing to institute best practices for securing their IT infrastructure and customer data.

The negligence of their sys admins and by extension the company&#039;s management has put their customers at risk, and their shareholder&#039;s value at risk. The companies management is also subject to criminal and civil penalties, for being negligent. 

You don&#039;t have to condone the actions of hackers to condemn the negligence of the corporation. Besides... condemning the actions of hackers is a pointless exercise. They don&#039;t care.. they aren&#039;t concerned with your values.

For the record, I&#039;m totally happy with Lulzsec for being funny, and making such information public. Most hackers don&#039;t deface and publish, as that ruins the value of the information, cuts off access, and makes law enforcement involvement more likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sony isn&#8217;t the victim. Sony is a faceless and irresponsible corporate entity failing to institute best practices for securing their IT infrastructure and customer data.</p>
<p>The negligence of their sys admins and by extension the company&#8217;s management has put their customers at risk, and their shareholder&#8217;s value at risk. The companies management is also subject to criminal and civil penalties, for being negligent. </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to condone the actions of hackers to condemn the negligence of the corporation. Besides&#8230; condemning the actions of hackers is a pointless exercise. They don&#8217;t care.. they aren&#8217;t concerned with your values.</p>
<p>For the record, I&#8217;m totally happy with Lulzsec for being funny, and making such information public. Most hackers don&#8217;t deface and publish, as that ruins the value of the information, cuts off access, and makes law enforcement involvement more likely.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1129263</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem willfully oblivious to the key legal concept of due diligence.</description>
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		<title>By: Tau'ma</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128499</link>
		<dc:creator>Tau'ma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for replying to me man. Your posts have played a big part in inspiring me to participate after sitting on the sidelines of the conversation for a long time, talking to myself. I&#039;ve been in profound grief ever since my girlfriend died and this blog has been my connection to the world pretty much ever since. Our conversation continues forever. Peace be with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for replying to me man. Your posts have played a big part in inspiring me to participate after sitting on the sidelines of the conversation for a long time, talking to myself. I&#8217;ve been in profound grief ever since my girlfriend died and this blog has been my connection to the world pretty much ever since. Our conversation continues forever. Peace be with you.</p>
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		<title>By: sidb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128248</link>
		<dc:creator>sidb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Sony leaves their bike leaning unlocked against the wall at the downtown bus station all night, it isn&#039;t exactly their fault when it gets stolen, but it isn&#039;t exactly not their fault, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Sony leaves their bike leaning unlocked against the wall at the downtown bus station all night, it isn&#8217;t exactly their fault when it gets stolen, but it isn&#8217;t exactly not their fault, either.</p>
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		<title>By: jacques45</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128249</link>
		<dc:creator>jacques45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is disgraceful and insecure: they were asking for it.&quot;

Not to get too straw-man, but just as in cases of rape where the victim is wearing skimpy clothing, the victim is not &quot;asking for it&quot;.  Nor did the unsuspecting people who signed up for $2 off coupons deserve to have their shit stolen. 

It&#039;s a crime, and whether it took 5 minutes or 5 years to break in, it&#039;s still wrong and these scriptkiddies belong in jail.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is disgraceful and insecure: they were asking for it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not to get too straw-man, but just as in cases of rape where the victim is wearing skimpy clothing, the victim is not &#8220;asking for it&#8221;.  Nor did the unsuspecting people who signed up for $2 off coupons deserve to have their shit stolen. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a crime, and whether it took 5 minutes or 5 years to break in, it&#8217;s still wrong and these scriptkiddies belong in jail.</p>
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		<title>By: Tau'ma</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128505</link>
		<dc:creator>Tau'ma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Petula Clark ~ &lt;a href=&quot;http://youtu.be/FKCnHWas3HQ&quot;&gt;Downtown&lt;/A&gt; ~ &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/16381/&quot;&gt;Lyrics&lt;/A&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Lobster</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128250</link>
		<dc:creator>Lobster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could these idiots please find a way to make their stupid little statement without ruining MY day?  Or at least change their name to something that isn&#039;t so goofy as to cause headaches?  

Maybe they could go hook up with the guys who hacked Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and L-3 Communication.  Those guys are doing some serious work that could really change things.  

They&#039;ve also got black helicopters and some extremely long prison sentences waiting for them.

&quot;Lul.&quot; :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could these idiots please find a way to make their stupid little statement without ruining MY day?  Or at least change their name to something that isn&#8217;t so goofy as to cause headaches?  </p>
<p>Maybe they could go hook up with the guys who hacked Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and L-3 Communication.  Those guys are doing some serious work that could really change things.  </p>
<p>They&#8217;ve also got black helicopters and some extremely long prison sentences waiting for them.</p>
<p>&#8220;Lul.&#8221; :P</p>
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		<title>By: Tribune</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tribune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;claimed a familiar scalpâ€”whatever remains of it, anyway&quot;

when do we hit brain tissue?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;claimed a familiar scalpâ€”whatever remains of it, anyway&#8221;</p>
<p>when do we hit brain tissue?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128256</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who&#039;s to say the bike wasn&#039;t put there for public use? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who&#8217;s to say the bike wasn&#8217;t put there for public use? ;)</p>
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		<title>By: sidb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128258</link>
		<dc:creator>sidb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To slightly shift my example of semi-victim-blaming: If Sony leaves *my* bike leaning unlocked against the wall at the downtown bus station all night, from my perspective it is *totally* their fault when it gets stolen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To slightly shift my example of semi-victim-blaming: If Sony leaves *my* bike leaning unlocked against the wall at the downtown bus station all night, from my perspective it is *totally* their fault when it gets stolen.</p>
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		<title>By: Teufelaffe</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128770</link>
		<dc:creator>Teufelaffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but feel a need to respond to someone trotting out the &quot;60% failure rate OMG!!&quot; rhetoric.  First off, the only statistic that even came close to 60% was a Game Informer &lt;i&gt;survey&lt;/i&gt; that reported 54%.  As you should be well aware, a voluntary survey is not going to provide results that represent reality.  If you believe that people answered that survey completely honestly, I&#039;ve got a bridge and some ocean-front property I can sell to you.

Meanwhile, an electronics warranty provider, SquareTrade, actually surveyed their records of over 5,000 Xbox 360s and found a ~24% failure rate.  That&#039;s from a company that actually handles thousands of console units, not from asking a bunch of gamers to be honest about whether or not their Xbox 360 died.  Is that a high failure rate?  Absolutely.  Is it even remotely close to 60%?  Not hardly.  For comparison, SquareTrade reported a ~10% failure rate for PS3s.

But those numbers aside, I think comparing the reaction of Microsoft and Sony to high failure rates is in order.  What did Microsoft do?  They retroactively extended the Xbox 360 warranty to 3 years and allowed thousands of Xbox 360 owners to get their machine repaired free of charge.  What did Sony do?  They blamed it on user error and charged $100+ to replace the &quot;damaged&quot; units.

I don&#039;t know about you, but I&#039;m going to go with the company that admits they screwed up and offers to replace their defective product for free, rather than the company that blames it on me and wants to charge me to replace their defective product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but feel a need to respond to someone trotting out the &#8220;60% failure rate OMG!!&#8221; rhetoric.  First off, the only statistic that even came close to 60% was a Game Informer <i>survey</i> that reported 54%.  As you should be well aware, a voluntary survey is not going to provide results that represent reality.  If you believe that people answered that survey completely honestly, I&#8217;ve got a bridge and some ocean-front property I can sell to you.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, an electronics warranty provider, SquareTrade, actually surveyed their records of over 5,000 Xbox 360s and found a ~24% failure rate.  That&#8217;s from a company that actually handles thousands of console units, not from asking a bunch of gamers to be honest about whether or not their Xbox 360 died.  Is that a high failure rate?  Absolutely.  Is it even remotely close to 60%?  Not hardly.  For comparison, SquareTrade reported a ~10% failure rate for PS3s.</p>
<p>But those numbers aside, I think comparing the reaction of Microsoft and Sony to high failure rates is in order.  What did Microsoft do?  They retroactively extended the Xbox 360 warranty to 3 years and allowed thousands of Xbox 360 owners to get their machine repaired free of charge.  What did Sony do?  They blamed it on user error and charged $100+ to replace the &#8220;damaged&#8221; units.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about you, but I&#8217;m going to go with the company that admits they screwed up and offers to replace their defective product for free, rather than the company that blames it on me and wants to charge me to replace their defective product.</p>
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		<title>By: deckard68</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128518</link>
		<dc:creator>deckard68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exploited by people like Lulz. Irony much? 

And Sony&#039;s attempt to copy protect CDs was seven years ago. Lulz&#039;s mom was probably still making him a bag lunch back then. He couldn&#039;t possibly claim that makes his industrial sabotage a-ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exploited by people like Lulz. Irony much? </p>
<p>And Sony&#8217;s attempt to copy protect CDs was seven years ago. Lulz&#8217;s mom was probably still making him a bag lunch back then. He couldn&#8217;t possibly claim that makes his industrial sabotage a-ok.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128264</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Not to get too straw-man, but just as in cases of rape where the victim is wearing skimpy clothing, the victim is not &quot;asking for it&quot;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But Sony isn&#039;t the victim. This is more a case of your babysitter leaving your toddler in the car while she does her shopping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Not to get too straw-man, but just as in cases of rape where the victim is wearing skimpy clothing, the victim is not &#8220;asking for it&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
<p>But Sony isn&#8217;t the victim. This is more a case of your babysitter leaving your toddler in the car while she does her shopping.</p>
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		<title>By: bcsizemo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128267</link>
		<dc:creator>bcsizemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So hacking Sony is just ruining your day, but hacking military contractors is changing things?

Like what?  National security policy?  

A corporation is a corporation.  If Sony is getting hacked, then maybe they and everyone else will tighten up their security.


Perhaps if enough military contractors get hacked they would learn that any connection to the outside world is not to be trusted or assumed secure.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So hacking Sony is just ruining your day, but hacking military contractors is changing things?</p>
<p>Like what?  National security policy?  </p>
<p>A corporation is a corporation.  If Sony is getting hacked, then maybe they and everyone else will tighten up their security.</p>
<p>Perhaps if enough military contractors get hacked they would learn that any connection to the outside world is not to be trusted or assumed secure.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/02/sony-hacked-again-1m.html#comment-1128279</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s really not that black or white here.

I don&#039;t care whether it&#039;s your babysitter&#039;s negligence of watching your toddler or Sony not keeping your bike secured, the fact of the matter is, both the person responsible for your possession/child AND the one doing the stealing/kidnapping are BOTH at fault.  I mean, is it okay for one to kidnap or steal if it&#039;s made easy for them on behalf of someone else&#039;s negligence?  Of course not.


Now depending on the circumstances, one will have to decide who is more at fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really not that black or white here.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care whether it&#8217;s your babysitter&#8217;s negligence of watching your toddler or Sony not keeping your bike secured, the fact of the matter is, both the person responsible for your possession/child AND the one doing the stealing/kidnapping are BOTH at fault.  I mean, is it okay for one to kidnap or steal if it&#8217;s made easy for them on behalf of someone else&#8217;s negligence?  Of course not.</p>
<p>Now depending on the circumstances, one will have to decide who is more at fault.</p>
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