Comments on: Is the world ready for this jelly? http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Tue, 21 May 2013 17:45:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1135106 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1135106 hmmm . . . Think of Wall Street capitalists as the jelly fish of our economy. hmmm . . . Think of Wall Street capitalists as the jelly fish of our economy.

]]> By: Tau'ma http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134342 Tau'ma Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134342 Sphere Best Scene http://youtu.be/8isTBU3gxB0 Sphere Best Scene http://youtu.be/8isTBU3gxB0

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134616 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134616 Which is why Sunfish Michael Pollan advocates that molas not eat anything that their great-grandmothers would not have recognizes as jellyfish. Which is why Sunfish Michael Pollan advocates that molas not eat anything that their great-grandmothers would not have recognizes as jellyfish.

]]> By: Ralf Muschall http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1135907 Ralf Muschall Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1135907 To everybody who thinks that the evil jellies at least help with carbon fixation: No, not even that, they steal carbon and increase the CO2 output. The Wired article (second link in the announcement) has a diagram of the carbon cycle with and without jellies. To everybody who thinks that the evil jellies at least help with carbon fixation: No, not even that, they steal carbon and increase the CO2 output. The Wired article (second link in the announcement) has a diagram of the carbon cycle with and without jellies.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1135423 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1135423 "When jellies are around, they're shunting this energy into a form that's just not very usable. They're just shunting energy away from the rest of the food web." Kind of like people? “When jellies are around, they’re shunting this energy into a form that’s just not very usable. They’re just shunting energy away from the rest of the food web.”

Kind of like people?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134914 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134914 So, do they cause gammaphobia? So, do they cause gammaphobia?

]]> By: billstewart http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134403 billstewart Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134403 They look like that, live in the ocean, and they're stealing away Earth's carbon cycle? Cthulhu! Jellyfish are a pretty common appetizer in some kinds of Chinese restaurants, served cold and usually relatively plain but occasionally with spicy stuff or sesame. They look like that, live in the ocean, and they’re stealing away Earth’s carbon cycle? Cthulhu!

Jellyfish are a pretty common appetizer in some kinds of Chinese restaurants, served cold and usually relatively plain but occasionally with spicy stuff or sesame.

]]> By: inkfumes http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134161 inkfumes Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134161 Hey, I need that food web, I eat from it all the time. Are going to be shunted into extinction? Hey, I need that food web, I eat from it all the time. Are going to be shunted into extinction?

]]> By: Mujokan http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134162 Mujokan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134162 "When jellies are around, they're shunting this energy into a form that's just not very usable. They're just shunting energy away from the rest of the food web." Reaganomics. “When jellies are around, they’re shunting this energy into a form that’s just not very usable. They’re just shunting energy away from the rest of the food web.”

Reaganomics.

]]> By: inkfumes http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134164 inkfumes Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134164 sorry, typo! "we" sorry, typo! “we”

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134171 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134171 This is exactly why there can never be too many awesome sunfish. Fact: Sunfish are fish. Fact: the entire purpose of a sunfish is to languidly flip out and eat jellies. Fact: sunfish are totally sweet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_sunfish This is exactly why there can never be too many awesome sunfish.

Fact: Sunfish are fish.
Fact: the entire purpose of a sunfish is to languidly flip out and eat jellies.
Fact: sunfish are totally sweet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_sunfish

]]> By: xzzy http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134173 xzzy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134173 What is the likelihood that a rise in jellyfish population coincides with a decline in fish population, perhaps due to over-fishing? Do fish compete with jellyfish for food, or do they have some other suppressive effect on jellyfish? What is the likelihood that a rise in jellyfish population coincides with a decline in fish population, perhaps due to over-fishing?

Do fish compete with jellyfish for food, or do they have some other suppressive effect on jellyfish?

]]> By: hassenpfeffer http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134178 hassenpfeffer Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134178 Guess we're gonna have to start liking jellyfish excretions and gammaproteobacteria. Any of you paleo-munchers want first crack? Guess we’re gonna have to start liking jellyfish excretions and gammaproteobacteria. Any of you paleo-munchers want first crack?

]]> By: awjtawjt http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134181 awjtawjt Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134181 The very next BoingBoing post had BETTER be a tentacley thing, for the Jellyfish/Cthulu/FSM trifecta!!! The very next BoingBoing post had BETTER be a tentacley thing, for the Jellyfish/Cthulu/FSM trifecta!!!

]]> By: rosycoeur http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134185 rosycoeur Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134185 "The organic matter produced by jellies doesn't make it back up the food web..." ...for now. Seriously, are there barriers to species adapting to eating gammaproteobacteria? I.e. are they anaerobic and living in sulpher vents where oxygen breathing species can't survive? Or do we just need to get some modernist chefs on this? “The organic matter produced by jellies doesn’t make it back up the food web…”

…for now.

Seriously, are there barriers to species adapting to eating gammaproteobacteria? I.e. are they anaerobic and living in sulpher vents where oxygen breathing species can’t survive?

Or do we just need to get some modernist chefs on this?

]]> By: Rich Keller http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134188 Rich Keller Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134188 Ocean sunfish eat jellyfish and so do some Japanese gourmands. All we have to do is get the diners to be buried at sea when the time comes in order to return their nutrients back to the ocean. http://pinktentacle.com/2006/08/chefs-prepare-for-annual-giant-jellyfish-invasion/ Ocean sunfish eat jellyfish and so do some Japanese gourmands. All we have to do is get the diners to be buried at sea when the time comes in order to return their nutrients back to the ocean.

http://pinktentacle.com/2006/08/chefs-prepare-for-annual-giant-jellyfish-invasion/

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134189 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134189 There are probably barriers to them doing so in time to ensure that entire existing ecosystems don't suffer. In the long run, maybe things balance out, but then, in evolutionary terms, we and our kids and grandkids all live in the short run. There are probably barriers to them doing so in time to ensure that entire existing ecosystems don’t suffer. In the long run, maybe things balance out, but then, in evolutionary terms, we and our kids and grandkids all live in the short run.

]]> By: badmigraine http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134445 badmigraine Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134445 It seems a rather sweeping conclusion to say their organic excretions don't back up the food web. This sounds a lot like doctors in the 1960s removing adenoids as a matter of course because nobody knew what they did--therefore they have no good function. It's easier to believe that the jellyfish study wasn't comprehensive enough to reveal the function of the excretions in the food web. Or that if the organic excretions of the massive oceanic population of jellyfish were consumed by the usual bacteria, then everything else would go whacky. Or any one of a dozen other things. It's elementary that there is a balance in the "food web" because that is one of its essential characteristics. The study was done in connection with the inquiry about whether a balance in the jellyfish population has been disturbed, but that question is unrelated to this surprising conclusion about the apparent lack function of jellyfish secretions in the food web. It seems a rather sweeping conclusion to say their organic excretions don’t back up the food web. This sounds a lot like doctors in the 1960s removing adenoids as a matter of course because nobody knew what they did–therefore they have no good function. It’s easier to believe that the jellyfish study wasn’t comprehensive enough to reveal the function of the excretions in the food web. Or that if the organic excretions of the massive oceanic population of jellyfish were consumed by the usual bacteria, then everything else would go whacky. Or any one of a dozen other things. It’s elementary that there is a balance in the “food web” because that is one of its essential characteristics. The study was done in connection with the inquiry about whether a balance in the jellyfish population has been disturbed, but that question is unrelated to this surprising conclusion about the apparent lack function of jellyfish secretions in the food web.

]]> By: Kosmoid http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134191 Kosmoid Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134191 How is this story "sobering"? Do we normally walk around in an intoxicated state until some blog post snaps us back to reality? How is this story “sobering”? Do we normally walk around in an intoxicated state until some blog post snaps us back to reality?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134450 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134450 Jellyfish are not like metroids or Cthulu. Cthulu and metroids are like jellyfish. Man, it's like you guys have spent more time on-line than in the ocean. Jellyfish are not like metroids or Cthulu. Cthulu and metroids are like jellyfish. Man, it’s like you guys have spent more time on-line than in the ocean.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1135224 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1135224 Just FYI, ocean sunfish taste so bad nobody eats them. That's how come they get so gigantic... ocean sunfish the size of volkswagens are no big deal. Just FYI, ocean sunfish taste so bad nobody eats them. That’s how come they get so gigantic… ocean sunfish the size of volkswagens are no big deal.

]]> By: apennydreadful http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134204 apennydreadful Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134204 : hey, any scientists want to find some way to use these for the good of mankind? ideas: biofuel jelly : hey, any scientists want to find some way to use these for the good of mankind? ideas:

biofuel
jelly

]]> By: Chuck http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134206 Chuck Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134206 Somebody check to make sure those jellyfish aren't undead. Jellyfish: the zombies of the sea. Somebody check to make sure those jellyfish aren’t undead.

Jellyfish: the zombies of the sea.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134209 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134209 @Kosmoid: sobering = making one thoughtful or sober (m-w.com). So it's not incorrect, just the slightly more metaphoric sense of the word. @Kosmoid: sobering = making one thoughtful or sober (m-w.com). So it’s not incorrect, just the slightly more metaphoric sense of the word.

]]> By: Cook!EMonstA http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134210 Cook!EMonstA Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134210 I remember going to a Zoo camp with my 6 year old daughter about the oceans. The zoologist made a point of explaining to the kids that scientists had decided to change the names of Starfish and Jellyfish because they are not actually fish. We found this rather amusing and have since taken to calling these creatures Jelly-not-fish. I remember going to a Zoo camp with my 6 year old daughter about the oceans. The zoologist made a point of explaining to the kids that scientists had decided to change the names of Starfish and Jellyfish because they are not actually fish. We found this rather amusing and have since taken to calling these creatures Jelly-not-fish.

]]> By: promethean http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134213 promethean Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134213 Jellyfish my ass, that's a mother fuckin' Metroid! Jellyfish my ass, that’s a mother fuckin’ Metroid!

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134217 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134217 If it's energy that doesn't go up the food chain is there any chance this locks up carbon? If it’s energy that doesn’t go up the food chain is there any chance this locks up carbon?

]]> By: Zan http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134219 Zan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134219 In defense of the big jellyfish, they don't actually sink ships. The source of that factoid is the article at http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/6483758/Japanese-fishing-trawler-sunk-by-giant-jellyfish.html which states that a fishing vessel tipped over while they were trying to haul in a heavy net containing several Nomura jellyfish. Hauling in a too heavy load caused the boat to sink, not the jellyfish themselves. In defense of the big jellyfish, they don’t actually sink ships. The source of that factoid is the article at http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/6483758/Japanese-fishing-trawler-sunk-by-giant-jellyfish.html which states that a fishing vessel tipped over while they were trying to haul in a heavy net containing several Nomura jellyfish. Hauling in a too heavy load caused the boat to sink, not the jellyfish themselves.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134477 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134477 sounds like humans sounds like humans

]]> By: Mujokan http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/is-the-world-ready-f.html#comment-1134224 Mujokan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134224 You mean you don't? You mean you don’t?

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