Comments on: Lisa Goldstein's The Uncertain Places: Grimm fairytale in California vibrates with believable unreality http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/lisa-goldsteins-the.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sat, 18 May 2013 16:24:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/lisa-goldsteins-the.html#comment-1133841 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1133841 As an undergrad at Berkeley during the 1960's, I remember Prof. Paul Feyerabend - see http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/feyerabend I wonder if he is the inspiration for the name of the wine growers in The Uncertain Places, since that is not exactly a common name, and he was a very influential figure on campus. As an undergrad at Berkeley during the 1960′s, I remember Prof. Paul Feyerabend – see http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/feyerabend

I wonder if he is the inspiration for the name of the wine growers in The Uncertain Places, since that is not exactly a common name, and he was a very influential figure on campus.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/lisa-goldsteins-the.html#comment-1135638 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1135638 If this turns out to be a West Coast version of Little, Big, I'm going to be very happy. If this turns out to be a West Coast version of Little, Big, I’m going to be very happy.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/lisa-goldsteins-the.html#comment-1134894 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134894 All these comments are thought provoking, so far... so thanks, all of you. I think the grimmness of most actual authentic fairy tales reflects life, then again, you might not want to meet my parents or siblings in a dark forest, at night. All these comments are thought provoking, so far… so thanks, all of you. I think the grimmness of most actual authentic fairy tales reflects life, then again, you might not want to meet my parents or siblings in a dark forest, at night.

]]> By: Roy Trumbull http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/lisa-goldsteins-the.html#comment-1133934 Roy Trumbull Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1133934 The original Grimm stories were pretty harsh but truer to life. "Grandmother, what big teeth you have!""All the better to eat you with!" -End of story In Snow White the evil queen is made to put on red hot steel slippers and dance herself to death. Rapunzel is pg by the prince and gives birth to twins. In Cinderella the stepsisters have their eyes put out by thorns. Time to undo the damage done by the redactors and make a gritty flick. The original Grimm stories were pretty harsh but truer to life.
“Grandmother, what big teeth you have!”"All the better to eat you with!” -End of story
In Snow White the evil queen is made to put on red hot steel slippers and dance herself to death.
Rapunzel is pg by the prince and gives birth to twins.
In Cinderella the stepsisters have their eyes put out by thorns.
Time to undo the damage done by the redactors and make a gritty flick.

]]> By: Amelia_G http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/lisa-goldsteins-the.html#comment-1134018 Amelia_G Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1134018 "Feierabend," awesome choice for the name. Is there a wolf family named "Mahlzeit"? “Feierabend,” awesome choice for the name. Is there a wolf family named “Mahlzeit”?

]]> By: alllie http://boingboing.net/2011/06/09/lisa-goldsteins-the.html#comment-1133811 alllie Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1133811 "human nobility"? In the Brothers Grimm tales? In which tale? Where Hansel and Gretal's parents leave them in the forest to starve? Or maybe Cinderella where Cinderella's father (not dead in the Grimm version) allows his new wife and step daughters to make his daughter into a kitchen mail and when he goes on a trip brings them back beautiful dresses and jewels, and her a twig. Or maybe Rumpelstiltskin where a father tries to get his daughter a rich husband by telling the king she can spin straw into gold. The king accepts her because he is greedy but threatens to kill her if she can't do as her father claimed. And the girl makes a deal to give her first baby to a demon in exchange for his help. It has been a while since I've read all of the Grimm's tales but I can't remember human nobility in any of them. Human greed? Plenty. Human cruelty? Yes. Human frailty? Totally. But I can't remember human nobility. “human nobility”? In the Brothers Grimm tales? In which tale? Where Hansel and Gretal’s parents leave them in the forest to starve? Or maybe Cinderella where Cinderella’s father (not dead in the Grimm version) allows his new wife and step daughters to make his daughter into a kitchen mail and when he goes on a trip brings them back beautiful dresses and jewels, and her a twig. Or maybe Rumpelstiltskin where a father tries to get his daughter a rich husband by telling the king she can spin straw into gold. The king accepts her because he is greedy but threatens to kill her if she can’t do as her father claimed. And the girl makes a deal to give her first baby to a demon in exchange for his help.

It has been a while since I’ve read all of the Grimm’s tales but I can’t remember human nobility in any of them. Human greed? Plenty. Human cruelty? Yes. Human frailty? Totally. But I can’t remember human nobility.

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