Networks are necessary, but not sufficient, for social upheaval


13 Responses to “Networks are necessary, but not sufficient, for social upheaval”

  1. buddy66 says:

    I got a royalty check yesterday for $130. That may be it for the year. So go ahead, steal me. Like I should give a shit?

    • Finnagain says:

      No no no. You’re doing it wrong. If you want people to steal you, you have to proclaim loudly that you will prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law if they steal you.

      So far, I’m not interested in stealing you. But if you threaten me, well, I’ll steal the crap out of you for the lulz.

  2. Goblin says:

    I often find myself at odds with your conclusions Cory, but this article is on an even keel and it frankly addresses much of my criticism of the earlier net-centric reporting on Egypt. I always appreciate reading the pragmatics.

  3. adamnvillani says:

    Wouldn’t a more accurate assessment be “helpful but not sufficient?” Networked computing played a part in the Egyptian uprising, but to say that they’re “necessary” is to say that nobody had a successful revolution before networked computers.

    Certainly communication is necessary, but that can take various forms — fiery oratory, the distribution of pamphlets like Thomas Paine’s Common Sense, telephones, television, and yes, computer networks, among many other forms of communication.

    • Laroquod says:

      ‘Network’ and ‘Social networking’. Not ‘Networked computing’. You added your own word to Cory’s thesis and then objected to its presence there.

      • Goblin says:

        Your counter to adamvillani rests on a false dichotomy. You can’t have a softwired “social network” without first haveing “networked computers.”

        And you have to admit adamvillani does have a point, even if he is only critiquing the implicit.

        • Laroquod says:

          Some of us have appear to have forgotten that the words ‘social network’ had and still have a central meaning that is entirely independent of computers.

          • Goblin says:

            You are now telling me that “social networking” equals “communication.”

            And frankly I can’t follow your line of thought. Could you please explain to me how the common use of “social network” is devoid of any technological influence.

            What qualities makes this social network identifiable? How is this social network then different from other such independent social structures? (i.e how is a functioning social structure (like a peer group) NOT a social network, as that seems to be what you are impling by lifting “social network” from its root in technology.)

            So enlighten me, what is the central meaning of “social network”? And I remind you, by your own admission, you can’t define it by any linkage with technology.

          • Laroquod says:

            I don’t need to do any of that Mr. Goblin, because this post does not exist in a vacuum…


    • Teller says:

      And taking over radio stations. And that terrific form of communication – weapons!

  4. MarlboroTestMonkey7 says:

    I always tie this ruminations to the next step in human colonization, space, and how much the human race would need to change, a deep one, in order to accomodate to such radical existence. Maybe I’m shooting off the roof, but probably we wouldn’t be human anymore.
    Back to this, perhaps the real revolution lies in obscurity and the fame we expect is based on an outdated concept, a world which doesn’t exist any more.
    Network provides a structure, but it also negates the individual creation as truly unique; the network shows the variations we previously would have taken years or centuries to discover.
    You won’t find an alien in a network, but outside. Once inside, it’s shine lessens. Information overload.

  5. lyd says:

    Is “sceptic” the British way to spell “skeptic”, or did that just slip past you and the editor?

  6. dross1260 says:

    “What’s worse than being an unpublished author? Being a known-unpublished author.” – Donald Hamilton

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