Comments on: Dirty, Drunk and Punk: the untold history of Toronto's BUNCHOFFUCKINGGOOFS http://boingboing.net/2011/06/20/dirty-drunk-and-punk.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 23 May 2013 20:32:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/06/20/dirty-drunk-and-punk.html#comment-1169931 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1169931 I was a fucked up street punk. I lived in a squawt in china town that my street brother Badger brought me to when we first met. Somehow in the "melting-pot" of young street I became as a brother to a sister, with a little skinhead girl, named Claudette. She would rest her head on my leg while we begged for change and I would rub her head(her chelsea hair do) like her mom did. She invted me to a skin/squawt pad reunion. There I met Pee Wee Rouge and Otto. We had a full out brawl, Claudette made them fight 1 on 1 style. It was me(17) and Otto(14) and at one point I got the better of him, and suggested we stand up shake hands and be friends, he accepted. We really did become friends and I know him to this day. One night as usual I went to the fort for late night beer. There I saw Ken (the smiling buddah), a dim timid skinhead drunk. He had been in the fort in the past. But the war was on. He was being beaten by girls,really humiliated. I tried to get him to leave but...At some point Shawn started talking to me explaining that there were some people here who know I hang with skins and that i huff glue and I was in serious danger and I aught to leave and bring Ken with me. I did THANKS SHAWN! Me I was never racist, but somehow i saw a world, few but skins knew. They r just people and to me seem alot like any gang they just pulled together for safety, although misguided I was a fucked up street punk. I lived in a squawt in china town that my street brother Badger brought me to when we first met. Somehow in the “melting-pot” of young street I became as a brother to a sister, with a little skinhead girl, named Claudette. She would rest her head on my leg while we begged for change and I would rub her head(her chelsea hair do) like her mom did. She invted me to a skin/squawt pad reunion. There I met Pee Wee Rouge and Otto. We had a full out brawl, Claudette made them fight 1 on 1 style. It was me(17) and Otto(14) and at one point I got the better of him, and suggested we stand up shake hands and be friends, he accepted. We really did become friends and I know him to this day. One night as usual I went to the fort for late night beer. There I saw Ken (the smiling buddah), a dim timid skinhead drunk. He had been in the fort in the past. But the war was on. He was being beaten by girls,really humiliated. I tried to get him to leave but…At some point Shawn started talking to me explaining that there were some people here who know I hang with skins and that i huff glue and I was in serious danger and I aught to leave and bring Ken with me. I did THANKS SHAWN! Me I was never racist, but somehow i saw a world, few but skins knew. They r just people and to me seem alot like any gang they just pulled together for safety, although misguided

]]> By: Robbo http://boingboing.net/2011/06/20/dirty-drunk-and-punk.html#comment-1142550 Robbo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1142550 Can't wait to get my hands on it. I lived in the market during those years - on St. Andrew, just up the street and around the corner from one of their digs. BFG was always a palpable presence. It was a wild time - the parts I remember anyway. Thanks for this. Can’t wait to get my hands on it. I lived in the market during those years – on St. Andrew, just up the street and around the corner from one of their digs. BFG was always a palpable presence. It was a wild time – the parts I remember anyway. Thanks for this.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/06/20/dirty-drunk-and-punk.html#comment-1142570 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1142570 Hate buying? Shoplifting is always an option. Hate buying? Shoplifting is always an option.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/06/20/dirty-drunk-and-punk.html#comment-1142832 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1142832 are these the same punks that are always around the TD atm on Augusta Ave.? It's strange, I always see them, but never really thought that they had much going on; other than being very chilled and enjoying an ice cold beer. In some people eyes, they probably still don't. It's great to see people passionate about what they believe in. This would be a great creative commons book, to take it even further. I'd like to produce a documentary about where they and the market are now. Kensington Market is changing; Yorkville was an alternative epicenter in the sixties and now it's a the most high end shopping area in Toronto; kensington is headed in the same direction. are these the same punks that are always around the TD atm on Augusta Ave.?

It’s strange, I always see them, but never really thought that they had much going on; other than being very chilled and enjoying an ice cold beer. In some people eyes, they probably still don’t. It’s great to see people passionate about what they believe in.

This would be a great creative commons book, to take it even further. I’d like to produce a documentary about where they and the market are now. Kensington Market is changing; Yorkville was an alternative epicenter in the sixties and now it’s a the most high end shopping area in Toronto; kensington is headed in the same direction.

]]> By: TheSpaghettiman http://boingboing.net/2011/06/20/dirty-drunk-and-punk.html#comment-1147704 TheSpaghettiman Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1147704 What are the "RVA days"? What are the “RVA days”?

]]> By: Boba Fett Diop http://boingboing.net/2011/06/20/dirty-drunk-and-punk.html#comment-1142593 Boba Fett Diop Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1142593 Steve Goof finally moved out of the Market last year. I think he's living in Thailand or something, now. I'd say it was the end of an era, but the Market continues. Steve Goof finally moved out of the Market last year. I think he’s living in Thailand or something, now. I’d say it was the end of an era, but the Market continues.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/06/20/dirty-drunk-and-punk.html#comment-1143896 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1143896 I was a neighbour of Fort Goof on Baldwin. It was my first apartment. That was certainly something. Zany times! When people had opinions and were interesting to be around. No digital devices. Just art and a lot of punk rock. I was a neighbour of Fort Goof on Baldwin.
It was my first apartment. That was certainly something.

Zany times! When people had opinions and were interesting to be around. No digital devices. Just art and a lot of punk rock.

]]> By: Cowicide http://boingboing.net/2011/06/20/dirty-drunk-and-punk.html#comment-1142623 Cowicide Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1142623 <blockquote>chain-fights with Nazi skinhead raiders</blockquote> Ah, Canada... We brought guns to the Nazis skinheads in back in RVA days in USA ... not even sure how many are alive anymore. I know at least one later "reformed" after he (literally) shit and pissed himself when a handgun was put in his mouth and cocked. He re-thunk his life after that.

chain-fights with Nazi skinhead raiders

Ah, Canada… We brought guns to the Nazis skinheads in back in RVA days in USA … not even sure how many are alive anymore. I know at least one later “reformed” after he (literally) shit and pissed himself when a handgun was put in his mouth and cocked. He re-thunk his life after that.

]]> By: bobsyeruncle http://boingboing.net/2011/06/20/dirty-drunk-and-punk.html#comment-1145184 bobsyeruncle Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1145184 Cool. How weird is it that I lived in Toronto, but got into Victoria's Dayglo Abortions, instead? Cool. How weird is it that I lived in Toronto, but got into Victoria’s Dayglo Abortions, instead?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/06/20/dirty-drunk-and-punk.html#comment-1163905 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1163905 i was in a band that used to play with the goofs sometimes, they are definitly the thing of legends and im so glad to see that theres a book about them now.. they are also very nice people, steve has helped alot of my friends over the years and without him, im sure alot of young punks would be lost!! i cant wait to find it !! i was in a band that used to play with the goofs sometimes, they are definitly the thing of legends and im so glad to see that theres a book about them now.. they are also very nice people, steve has helped alot of my friends over the years and without him, im sure alot of young punks would be lost!! i cant wait to find it !!

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/06/20/dirty-drunk-and-punk.html#comment-1144461 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1144461 I don't know where he lives, but Steve Goof still hangs out in the market. I saw him at an event on the weekend and he was talking about how he'd seen the venue change over the years. I don’t know where he lives, but Steve Goof still hangs out in the market. I saw him at an event on the weekend and he was talking about how he’d seen the venue change over the years.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/06/20/dirty-drunk-and-punk.html#comment-1143216 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1143216 I lived on Oxford and worked at the Tropical Paradise. I don't remember much, but I want it all back again. I lived on Oxford and worked at the Tropical Paradise. I don’t remember much, but I want it all back again.

]]> By: jmalcolmcurrie http://boingboing.net/2011/06/20/dirty-drunk-and-punk.html#comment-1144272 jmalcolmcurrie Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1144272 An anarchist friend of mine was living inside a meat locker on the second floor of an old warehouse on Oxford when the Goofs moved in the basement downstairs. We stopped by to help them shift the last of their gear from the previous Fort Goof, elsewhere in the market. There was a palpable, if not universally-displayed intensity amongst the Goofs at that time, as they were in the midst of a number of difficulties. It was easy to see how some might've steered clear, but it was just as easy to give 'em the benefit of the doubt and let myself be surprised at just how nice a bunch they could be. They were downright personable, in fact. That warehouse is long gone, btw. It got knocked down and a housing development was eventually built on that site. Other than the Goofs, there were quite a number of artists, musicians junkies and political activists drifting in and out at all times. I can still remember the night that someone (who? Who knows) broke into the first floor of the warehouse, discovering (and subsequently liberating) a vast trove of never-used, vintage department store items dating back to the 50s - like someone had packed away and subsequently forgotten the contents of an entire Kresge's. An anarchist friend of mine was living inside a meat locker on the second floor of an old warehouse on Oxford when the Goofs moved in the basement downstairs. We stopped by to help them shift the last of their gear from the previous Fort Goof, elsewhere in the market. There was a palpable, if not universally-displayed intensity amongst the Goofs at that time, as they were in the midst of a number of difficulties. It was easy to see how some might’ve steered clear, but it was just as easy to give ‘em the benefit of the doubt and let myself be surprised at just how nice a bunch they could be. They were downright personable, in fact.

That warehouse is long gone, btw. It got knocked down and a housing development was eventually built on that site. Other than the Goofs, there were quite a number of artists, musicians junkies and political activists drifting in and out at all times. I can still remember the night that someone (who? Who knows) broke into the first floor of the warehouse, discovering (and subsequently liberating) a vast trove of never-used, vintage department store items dating back to the 50s – like someone had packed away and subsequently forgotten the contents of an entire Kresge’s.

]]> By: Chesterfield http://boingboing.net/2011/06/20/dirty-drunk-and-punk.html#comment-1142505 Chesterfield Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1142505 I like that list. #1 Don't buy it, make it. But that doesn't last for long. #2 Buy fishing line or dental floss. #3 Buy Liquid Paper and expensive jackets. #4 Buy stuff at the hardware store. #6 Buy stuff with beer that you presumably also bought with other beer? #7 Did you buy the t-shirts and ink with beer as well? I like that list.

#1 Don’t buy it, make it.

But that doesn’t last for long.

#2 Buy fishing line or dental floss.
#3 Buy Liquid Paper and expensive jackets.
#4 Buy stuff at the hardware store.
#6 Buy stuff with beer that you presumably also bought with other beer?
#7 Did you buy the t-shirts and ink with beer as well?

]]> By: duncan http://boingboing.net/2011/06/20/dirty-drunk-and-punk.html#comment-1142776 duncan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1142776 Oi! Am I the only one who thinks this should be released under creative commons? Oi! Am I the only one who thinks this should be released under creative commons?

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