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	<title>Comments on: Taiwan: Blogger fined $7K, jailed for 30 days over negative noodle&#160;review</title>
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		<title>By: spriggan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1146368</link>
		<dc:creator>spriggan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depends on how honest you want your news?</description>
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		<title>By: adamnvillani</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1147392</link>
		<dc:creator>adamnvillani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to be &quot;that guy,&quot; but the photo looks like Cantonese chicken-and-vegetable chow mein, not Taiwanese beef noodles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to be &#8220;that guy,&#8221; but the photo looks like Cantonese chicken-and-vegetable chow mein, not Taiwanese beef noodles.</p>
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		<title>By: christianecon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1146118</link>
		<dc:creator>christianecon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t realize Taiwan was that backwards and authoritarian.  Wow....  Hope ultimately they don&#039;t like the bad PR this generates, and things will change for the better.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t realize Taiwan was that backwards and authoritarian.  Wow&#8230;.  Hope ultimately they don&#8217;t like the bad PR this generates, and things will change for the better.  </p>
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		<title>By: Teller</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1146120</link>
		<dc:creator>Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reader Beware. Whose movie reviews are you gonna pay more attention to: Anthony Lane&#039;s or some blogger named Angela. I mean, really. No different with restaurant recommendations.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reader Beware. Whose movie reviews are you gonna pay more attention to: Anthony Lane&#8217;s or some blogger named Angela. I mean, really. No different with restaurant recommendations.  </p>
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		<title>By: Ugly Canuck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1146131</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugly Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s just me, but the terms &#039;food blogger&#039;, &#039;food blogging&#039; - these are not appetizing terms, at least as to how they sound. 

Back OT, what has happened to this food critic really boils my potatoes,
cuts my cabbage, and jerks my beef.

An outrage!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just me, but the terms &#8216;food blogger&#8217;, &#8216;food blogging&#8217; &#8211; these are not appetizing terms, at least as to how they sound. </p>
<p>Back OT, what has happened to this food critic really boils my potatoes,<br />
cuts my cabbage, and jerks my beef.</p>
<p>An outrage!</p>
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		<title>By: blatantdisregard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1147156</link>
		<dc:creator>blatantdisregard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the restaurant owner is Taiwan&#039;s answer to Kenny Shopsin. </description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1147927</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why the owner should object to the review.  Most restaurant food is too salty...that&#039;s what customers like and why they eat out. As for the cockerroaches on the wall, they are better seen than hidden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why the owner should object to the review.  Most restaurant food is too salty&#8230;that&#8217;s what customers like and why they eat out. As for the cockerroaches on the wall, they are better seen than hidden.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick.</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1146139</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One can get a pretty good consensus from Yelp reviews.  You play the averages...throw out the glowing praises and the extreme negative reviews...and you get a nice middle that will help you make a good decision on whether the business is worth giving money to. 

Usually though, I&#039;d still give a restaurant a try despite negative reviews if the food sounds good enough.  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can get a pretty good consensus from Yelp reviews.  You play the averages&#8230;throw out the glowing praises and the extreme negative reviews&#8230;and you get a nice middle that will help you make a good decision on whether the business is worth giving money to. </p>
<p>Usually though, I&#8217;d still give a restaurant a try despite negative reviews if the food sounds good enough.  </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1146154</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>20,000 twd is more than 2000 meals in taiwan. i hope the owner does not see any of this money that she was fined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20,000 twd is more than 2000 meals in taiwan. i hope the owner does not see any of this money that she was fined.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1146410</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taiwan&#039;s judges don&#039;t have to be practising lawyers or have any kind of law school degree whatsoever to get their jobs. They simply need to pass an (allegedly difficult) exam. That is why they often seem to have next to no sense of justice. Take for example, the case of the judge in Taiwan who ruled that a three-year girl who did not indicate her unwillingness to participate in sex (perhaps because she was only three) hence could not have been raped.

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/national/national-news/2010/09/04/271334/Govt-to.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taiwan&#8217;s judges don&#8217;t have to be practising lawyers or have any kind of law school degree whatsoever to get their jobs. They simply need to pass an (allegedly difficult) exam. That is why they often seem to have next to no sense of justice. Take for example, the case of the judge in Taiwan who ruled that a three-year girl who did not indicate her unwillingness to participate in sex (perhaps because she was only three) hence could not have been raped.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/national/national-news/2010/09/04/271334/Govt-to.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/national/national-news/2010/09/04/271334/Govt-to.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gloria</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1146671</link>
		<dc:creator>Gloria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That&#039;s why restaurant owners fear food critics, because they only try one or two things and then make generalisations on the rest.&quot; 

Uh, no. They fear food critics because their voices are backed by professional experience, often appear in publications with large audiences, and often have followings of people who take their food seriously. 

Many, if not most, professional food critics visit a restaurant at least a few times, and try several items on the menu. Frank Bruni, the former NY Times critic, often went with friends and made everyone order different things so he could try many dishes at once. 

I&#039;ve never read a review where a critic ate only one dish and made comment on another. Critics describe the dishes THEY eat. The generalizations would come from the quality of service, which they can only experience on a handful of days. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s why restaurant owners fear food critics, because they only try one or two things and then make generalisations on the rest.&#8221; </p>
<p>Uh, no. They fear food critics because their voices are backed by professional experience, often appear in publications with large audiences, and often have followings of people who take their food seriously. </p>
<p>Many, if not most, professional food critics visit a restaurant at least a few times, and try several items on the menu. Frank Bruni, the former NY Times critic, often went with friends and made everyone order different things so he could try many dishes at once. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never read a review where a critic ate only one dish and made comment on another. Critics describe the dishes THEY eat. The generalizations would come from the quality of service, which they can only experience on a handful of days. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1146419</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t she know that for a customer to be paying good money for inferior food, service, or anything in Asia (EXCEPT in Japan) is really a privilege?  How dare she criticized haphazard parking, salty food, and physically active cockroaches!  It&#039;s not an exception, but the rules.  It&#039;s a Chinese culture to accept being mistreated by business owners.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t she know that for a customer to be paying good money for inferior food, service, or anything in Asia (EXCEPT in Japan) is really a privilege?  How dare she criticized haphazard parking, salty food, and physically active cockroaches!  It&#8217;s not an exception, but the rules.  It&#8217;s a Chinese culture to accept being mistreated by business owners.  </p>
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		<title>By: patrick_bateman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1147700</link>
		<dc:creator>patrick_bateman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might be interested to know that in Australia a scathing restaurant review was held to be defamatory too:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/restaurant-owners-defamed-jury-finds/2007/09/19/1189881595499.html

However this is a civil tort and only leads to damages, not imprisonment(!).

As an aside, I would like Asia-philes to remember this sort of stuff when preaching to the rest of us about what a dynamic, exciting place Asia is artistically/culturally/culinarily/whateverly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might be interested to know that in Australia a scathing restaurant review was held to be defamatory too:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/restaurant-owners-defamed-jury-finds/2007/09/19/1189881595499.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/restaurant-owners-defamed-jury-finds/2007/09/19/1189881595499.html</a></p>
<p>However this is a civil tort and only leads to damages, not imprisonment(!).</p>
<p>As an aside, I would like Asia-philes to remember this sort of stuff when preaching to the rest of us about what a dynamic, exciting place Asia is artistically/culturally/culinarily/whateverly.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1147701</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was that article written by a robot? That is the most bizarre grammar and syntax that I&#039;ve seen outside of a technical journal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was that article written by a robot? That is the most bizarre grammar and syntax that I&#8217;ve seen outside of a technical journal.</p>
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		<title>By: patrick_bateman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1147703</link>
		<dc:creator>patrick_bateman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antinous - it&#039;s a consequence of our contempt of court laws in Australia (and Britain, and other common law countries) and our lack of a positive free speech right.  The media is permitted to report anything said in open court unless a suppression order is made, but what they report must be a &quot;fair and accurate&quot; report of the proceedings.  Hence they adopt an artificially neutral tone and deliver the reporting without inflection.  Articles like that are often vetted by lawyers before publication, especially in connection with defamation actions and the like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antinous &#8211; it&#8217;s a consequence of our contempt of court laws in Australia (and Britain, and other common law countries) and our lack of a positive free speech right.  The media is permitted to report anything said in open court unless a suppression order is made, but what they report must be a &#8220;fair and accurate&#8221; report of the proceedings.  Hence they adopt an artificially neutral tone and deliver the reporting without inflection.  Articles like that are often vetted by lawyers before publication, especially in connection with defamation actions and the like.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1147706</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...did convey the imputation complained of&quot;, is barely human language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;did convey the imputation complained of&#8221;, is barely human language.</p>
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		<title>By: kmoser</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1146428</link>
		<dc:creator>kmoser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For that matter, why are people who write online called &quot;bloggers&quot; but people who write for print publications are called &quot;writers?&quot; I say we call them all &quot;writers&quot; and level the playing field, lest they become defined by their media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For that matter, why are people who write online called &#8220;bloggers&#8221; but people who write for print publications are called &#8220;writers?&#8221; I say we call them all &#8220;writers&#8221; and level the playing field, lest they become defined by their media.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1147708</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it&#039;s weird, at least from a US point of view, because it sort of makes everyone a party to every legal case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it&#8217;s weird, at least from a US point of view, because it sort of makes everyone a party to every legal case.</p>
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		<title>By: patrick_bateman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1147712</link>
		<dc:creator>patrick_bateman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Anglo-Australian defamation law to succeed in a claim you must have a publication (e.g. a restaurant review) which conveys defamatory imputations (i.e. meanings) to an audience and which is not justified (substantially true).  So the phrase is just picking up the legal principles.  Odd for a newspaper article, to be sure, but its the &quot;fair and accurate&quot; principle in action - the safest way to be &quot;fair and accurate&quot; is to use the same language used in the courtroom.

The idea is that open justice is the norm - anyone can see everything that happens in court - but that this is counterbalanced by a requirement that anything you publish about what you see must be accurate.  So you don&#039;t get, say, a person being accused of rape and then the newspapers only reporting the adverse allegations but not the matters put forward which might exonerate them.  Sort of an enforced media responsibility.  I know that is quite an alien idea from a US perspective though - again it comes back to a lack of positive free speech rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Anglo-Australian defamation law to succeed in a claim you must have a publication (e.g. a restaurant review) which conveys defamatory imputations (i.e. meanings) to an audience and which is not justified (substantially true).  So the phrase is just picking up the legal principles.  Odd for a newspaper article, to be sure, but its the &#8220;fair and accurate&#8221; principle in action &#8211; the safest way to be &#8220;fair and accurate&#8221; is to use the same language used in the courtroom.</p>
<p>The idea is that open justice is the norm &#8211; anyone can see everything that happens in court &#8211; but that this is counterbalanced by a requirement that anything you publish about what you see must be accurate.  So you don&#8217;t get, say, a person being accused of rape and then the newspapers only reporting the adverse allegations but not the matters put forward which might exonerate them.  Sort of an enforced media responsibility.  I know that is quite an alien idea from a US perspective though &#8211; again it comes back to a lack of positive free speech rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Xeni Jardin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1146442</link>
		<dc:creator>Xeni Jardin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a woman. I wrote this blog post. Some of the details about the case, and about the tone used by the restaurant owner and by the court in addressing the blogger seemed demeaning in a way that other women might recognize as familiar and gender-specific. The gender of the individual, given cultural context and those details, seemed relevant. Also might not be obvious to casual skimmers who are not familiar with Chinese names that the individual involved was female.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a woman. I wrote this blog post. Some of the details about the case, and about the tone used by the restaurant owner and by the court in addressing the blogger seemed demeaning in a way that other women might recognize as familiar and gender-specific. The gender of the individual, given cultural context and those details, seemed relevant. Also might not be obvious to casual skimmers who are not familiar with Chinese names that the individual involved was female.</p>
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		<title>By: ThinkCritically</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1146703</link>
		<dc:creator>ThinkCritically</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>taj in reply to Xeni Jardin
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Xeni,
I didn&#039;t see anything gender-specific or familiar in the Taipei Times article or in the words of the restauranteur, and I&#039;m a female reader. Have you been following this story elsewhere?

&quot;Blogger needs to learn a lesson about the dangers of slander.&quot; That&#039;s what I see the restauranteur saying.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I agree with taj here. The WAJAB (We Are Just A Blog) defense, used by many prominent blogs often (ahem!), is very weak sauce indeed.

Something to think about: Let&#039;s see what happens when one of the &lt;i&gt;alleged&lt;/i&gt; Vancouver rioters identified by the online-justice-mob commits self-injury (or worse).  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>taj in reply to Xeni Jardin</p>
<blockquote><p>
Xeni,<br />
I didn&#8217;t see anything gender-specific or familiar in the Taipei Times article or in the words of the restauranteur, and I&#8217;m a female reader. Have you been following this story elsewhere?</p>
<p>&#8220;Blogger needs to learn a lesson about the dangers of slander.&#8221; That&#8217;s what I see the restauranteur saying.
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<p>I agree with taj here. The WAJAB (We Are Just A Blog) defense, used by many prominent blogs often (ahem!), is very weak sauce indeed.</p>
<p>Something to think about: Let&#8217;s see what happens when one of the <i>alleged</i> Vancouver rioters identified by the online-justice-mob commits self-injury (or worse).  </p>
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		<title>By: benher</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1146451</link>
		<dc:creator>benher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had the privilege of visiting Taiwan several times.

Go to the Taipei Night Markets and there are more cockroaches than you can shake a stick at. Because... Get ready for it... that&#039;s what happens when you open an eatery near the equator on a beautiful island.  

Why the poor blogger is getting such a smack-down though, I have no idea. Roaches are far from rare in this part of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had the privilege of visiting Taiwan several times.</p>
<p>Go to the Taipei Night Markets and there are more cockroaches than you can shake a stick at. Because&#8230; Get ready for it&#8230; that&#8217;s what happens when you open an eatery near the equator on a beautiful island.  </p>
<p>Why the poor blogger is getting such a smack-down though, I have no idea. Roaches are far from rare in this part of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: gwailo_joe</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1146200</link>
		<dc:creator>gwailo_joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christ, what a...those noodles do look delicious don&#039;t they?

The beef noodles served by the Taiwanese bully in question however contain sinew from lab macaques and cadaver drippings...

I read it on the internet somewhere. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christ, what a&#8230;those noodles do look delicious don&#8217;t they?</p>
<p>The beef noodles served by the Taiwanese bully in question however contain sinew from lab macaques and cadaver drippings&#8230;</p>
<p>I read it on the internet somewhere. . .</p>
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		<title>By: cinemajay</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1146202</link>
		<dc:creator>cinemajay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Most people who write reviewers do so to complain.&quot; 

Citation needed for blanket assertion. 


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Most people who write reviewers do so to complain.&#8221; </p>
<p>Citation needed for blanket assertion. </p>
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		<title>By: caipirina</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1146472</link>
		<dc:creator>caipirina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to the gender thing. My first thought was &#039;they would probably not have jailed a male blogger&#039; (but then again, never been to Taiwan, what do I know) 

As to the whole &#039;everyone&#039;s a critic&#039; movement. I like what tripadvisor now has introduced, basically a rating of the raters, I was once stuck in a hotel in Pamukkale with tons of great reviews, but later found that they were all from &#039;people&#039; who only ever wrote ONE review ... later I found in that hotel that the youngsters there were online all night, creating new online personas and write reviews (at the same time bashing neighboring hotels) 

One more thing ... I have also heard from 2 small upstart hotels that they have been basically blackmailed by guests  &#039;give me discount, or you will find bad words on booking.com ... &#039;

sigh ... and NOW i want to have those noodles and that beer !!!

(Can someone sneak in a sticker among their &#039;accepted cards&#039; display saying &#039;as featured on BB&#039; ? :D </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to the gender thing. My first thought was &#8216;they would probably not have jailed a male blogger&#8217; (but then again, never been to Taiwan, what do I know) </p>
<p>As to the whole &#8216;everyone&#8217;s a critic&#8217; movement. I like what tripadvisor now has introduced, basically a rating of the raters, I was once stuck in a hotel in Pamukkale with tons of great reviews, but later found that they were all from &#8216;people&#8217; who only ever wrote ONE review &#8230; later I found in that hotel that the youngsters there were online all night, creating new online personas and write reviews (at the same time bashing neighboring hotels) </p>
<p>One more thing &#8230; I have also heard from 2 small upstart hotels that they have been basically blackmailed by guests  &#8216;give me discount, or you will find bad words on booking.com &#8230; &#8216;</p>
<p>sigh &#8230; and NOW i want to have those noodles and that beer !!!</p>
<p>(Can someone sneak in a sticker among their &#8216;accepted cards&#8217; display saying &#8216;as featured on BB&#8217; ? :D </p>
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		<title>By: taj</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1146474</link>
		<dc:creator>taj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xeni, 
I didn&#039;t see anything gender-specific or familiar in the Taipei Times article or in the words of the restauranteur, and I&#039;m a female reader. Have you been following this story elsewhere? 

&quot;Blogger needs to learn a lesson about the dangers of slander.&quot; That&#039;s what I see the restauranteur saying.

She called him a bully for letting people park haphazardly.
Think about that. How does letting people do what they like on the street make someone a bully? (And without knowing the words in Chinese it&#039;s hard to judge how over / under the top that might be to say.

I am all for freedom of expression. BUT, people can&#039;t just post lies and falsehoods that harm others with impunity. Female, Male, or Other. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xeni,<br />
I didn&#8217;t see anything gender-specific or familiar in the Taipei Times article or in the words of the restauranteur, and I&#8217;m a female reader. Have you been following this story elsewhere? </p>
<p>&#8220;Blogger needs to learn a lesson about the dangers of slander.&#8221; That&#8217;s what I see the restauranteur saying.</p>
<p>She called him a bully for letting people park haphazardly.<br />
Think about that. How does letting people do what they like on the street make someone a bully? (And without knowing the words in Chinese it&#8217;s hard to judge how over / under the top that might be to say.</p>
<p>I am all for freedom of expression. BUT, people can&#8217;t just post lies and falsehoods that harm others with impunity. Female, Male, or Other. </p>
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		<title>By: poagao</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1146225</link>
		<dc:creator>poagao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The blogger&#039;s jail sentence will most likely not be served if she &quot;behaves&quot; for two years of probation. But still, Taiwan&#039;s &quot;public insult&quot; law really is an international embarrassment and a black eye for a nation that prides itself on being a democracy. People can successfully sue you for so much as a rude hand gesture made in traffic, citing &quot;public defamation.&quot; The system remains for cultural reasons: many people actually agree with it and that people should restrict what they say to avoid negatively affecting anyone or anything. And judges here don&#039;t have training as lawyers; all they have to do is get out of college and pass a test.

Give a restaurant a good review, however, and watch the people lining up, oblivious to the double standard. This is part of the reason there are no genuine review establishments such as Michelin in Taiwan; they&#039;d be sued out of the country. This may also be why Taiwan&#039;s movie industry has been stagnant for so long. In fact, there are many serious repercussions originating from this aspect of Taiwanese law/custom. Each incident that comes to light spreads on the Internet, beyond the borders where the judge has no authority, and impacts Taiwan&#039;s international image.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The blogger&#8217;s jail sentence will most likely not be served if she &#8220;behaves&#8221; for two years of probation. But still, Taiwan&#8217;s &#8220;public insult&#8221; law really is an international embarrassment and a black eye for a nation that prides itself on being a democracy. People can successfully sue you for so much as a rude hand gesture made in traffic, citing &#8220;public defamation.&#8221; The system remains for cultural reasons: many people actually agree with it and that people should restrict what they say to avoid negatively affecting anyone or anything. And judges here don&#8217;t have training as lawyers; all they have to do is get out of college and pass a test.</p>
<p>Give a restaurant a good review, however, and watch the people lining up, oblivious to the double standard. This is part of the reason there are no genuine review establishments such as Michelin in Taiwan; they&#8217;d be sued out of the country. This may also be why Taiwan&#8217;s movie industry has been stagnant for so long. In fact, there are many serious repercussions originating from this aspect of Taiwanese law/custom. Each incident that comes to light spreads on the Internet, beyond the borders where the judge has no authority, and impacts Taiwan&#8217;s international image.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1146494</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you can be comforted to know that if you fundamentally object to the freedom of speech and prefer to replace it with the freedom to not be annoyed you can move your restaurant to Taiwan.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you can be comforted to know that if you fundamentally object to the freedom of speech and prefer to replace it with the freedom to not be annoyed you can move your restaurant to Taiwan.   </p>
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		<title>By: fenrox</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1147015</link>
		<dc:creator>fenrox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing to note is that as people actually utilize these online reviews, they also learn to read them, not just take one bad review for gospel and ban your restaurant. But we are in the shitty days of stupid internet people and uses so...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing to note is that as people actually utilize these online reviews, they also learn to read them, not just take one bad review for gospel and ban your restaurant. But we are in the shitty days of stupid internet people and uses so&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/06/23/taiwan-blogger-fined.html#comment-1146517</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Most meals I just want a decent meal, reasonably priced, and served promptly. I suppose I could write positive Yelp reviews of restaurants that manage that, but they would be pretty boring.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If a restaurant consistently cooks my hamburger to order, gets it on the table in a timely fashion and charges reasonably, that&#039;s a wow for me. I would find that kind of review more useful than whether or not the breast of pheasant en crÃ©pine was rubbery.

If I have a good meal, I tell everyone that I know to eat there, because it&#039;s in my self-interest to make sure that a good restaurant stays open. I hate it when I find a great place to eat and it closes for lack of business, which is incredibly common here in Disney Arrakis. Seasonal tee-shirt tourists and rich centenarians are not a good economic base for a vigorous restaurant culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Most meals I just want a decent meal, reasonably priced, and served promptly. I suppose I could write positive Yelp reviews of restaurants that manage that, but they would be pretty boring.</p></blockquote>
<p>If a restaurant consistently cooks my hamburger to order, gets it on the table in a timely fashion and charges reasonably, that&#8217;s a wow for me. I would find that kind of review more useful than whether or not the breast of pheasant en crÃ©pine was rubbery.</p>
<p>If I have a good meal, I tell everyone that I know to eat there, because it&#8217;s in my self-interest to make sure that a good restaurant stays open. I hate it when I find a great place to eat and it closes for lack of business, which is incredibly common here in Disney Arrakis. Seasonal tee-shirt tourists and rich centenarians are not a good economic base for a vigorous restaurant culture.</p>
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