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	<title>Comments on: Canny fellow gets foreclosed $300K house for $16 adverse possession&#160;filing</title>
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		<title>By: erg79</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1166594</link>
		<dc:creator>erg79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kenneth Robinson did an interview on Bomani Jones&#039; show this morning:
http://thescore.vo.llnwd.net/o25/score_radio/the-morning-jones-ep638-id3238.mp3?1311085173</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenneth Robinson did an interview on Bomani Jones&#8217; show this morning:<br />
<a href="http://thescore.vo.llnwd.net/o25/score_radio/the-morning-jones-ep638-id3238.mp3?1311085173" rel="nofollow">http://thescore.vo.llnwd.net/o25/score_radio/the-morning-jones-ep638-id3238.mp3?1311085173</a></p>
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		<title>By: Raines Cohen</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1166089</link>
		<dc:creator>Raines Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On another board, some of the discussion/speculation about reasons for neighbor complaint included possible exemption from the Home-Owner&#039;s Association (HOA) by taking title in this fashion. If dues are not paid, perhaps the HOA would be able to file a lien agains the property and eventually foreclose and sell in order to be made whole... but not if title was acquired through this unconventional outside-normal-channels not-anticipated-by-the-condo docs path? That was the line of thinking as to one underlying cause of objection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On another board, some of the discussion/speculation about reasons for neighbor complaint included possible exemption from the Home-Owner&#8217;s Association (HOA) by taking title in this fashion. If dues are not paid, perhaps the HOA would be able to file a lien agains the property and eventually foreclose and sell in order to be made whole&#8230; but not if title was acquired through this unconventional outside-normal-channels not-anticipated-by-the-condo docs path? That was the line of thinking as to one underlying cause of objection.</p>
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		<title>By: ZachMatthews</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1165834</link>
		<dc:creator>ZachMatthews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a lawyer, but not in Texas.  Adverse possession serves a good purpose; it makes sure land doesn&#039;t just sit there being wasted.

I have a home next door to my house in Atlanta that has been abandoned for a year now.  The bank which owns it is probably Bank of America, and they have literally done nothing to it.  I have been mowing the lawn and trimming the hedges, but that house is just deteriorating before my eyes.

Those neighbors ought to consider that *any* owner is better than no owner.  And even if he gets the house for free, that at least means he&#039;ll be able to pay for electricity and water and afford to keep the place up, which is more than I can say for my non-existent neighbors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a lawyer, but not in Texas.  Adverse possession serves a good purpose; it makes sure land doesn&#8217;t just sit there being wasted.</p>
<p>I have a home next door to my house in Atlanta that has been abandoned for a year now.  The bank which owns it is probably Bank of America, and they have literally done nothing to it.  I have been mowing the lawn and trimming the hedges, but that house is just deteriorating before my eyes.</p>
<p>Those neighbors ought to consider that *any* owner is better than no owner.  And even if he gets the house for free, that at least means he&#8217;ll be able to pay for electricity and water and afford to keep the place up, which is more than I can say for my non-existent neighbors.</p>
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		<title>By: semiotix</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1165837</link>
		<dc:creator>semiotix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooh, adverse possession. Many a spittle-flecked roar of outrage has been spewed upon the interwebs over that topic! Although probably not today, since the, ahem, &quot;victim&quot; is whoever owns the corpse of a mortgage company.

I&#039;m a little confused as to the motives of the neighbors, because it&#039;s not like his $16 is going to be factored into the neighborhood property value statistics, and &lt;i&gt;LIKE FUN&lt;/i&gt; he&#039;s going to live there for long. For better or for worse, this guy is way too smart to pass up the many opportunities he&#039;ll have to sell or settle this for pennies on the dollar (but, more importantly, dollars to his pennies). And that &quot;complicated lawsuit&quot; he says he thinks the bank won&#039;t file? I&#039;m guessing he&#039;s calculated exactly how many thousands of dollars the hassle is worth to the bank, and will take any offer that&#039;s a dollar higher. (Probably not too high, either.)

Now if it really is straight up racism (or really, really sour grapes) that&#039;s getting the neighbors antsy, okay, that sucks. But if it&#039;s a question of the neighbors feeling like the &lt;i&gt;original&lt;/i&gt; owner, pre-foreclosure, is getting the shaft, well, that&#039;s a lot more understandable (if legally meaningless).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh, adverse possession. Many a spittle-flecked roar of outrage has been spewed upon the interwebs over that topic! Although probably not today, since the, ahem, &#8220;victim&#8221; is whoever owns the corpse of a mortgage company.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a little confused as to the motives of the neighbors, because it&#8217;s not like his $16 is going to be factored into the neighborhood property value statistics, and <i>LIKE FUN</i> he&#8217;s going to live there for long. For better or for worse, this guy is way too smart to pass up the many opportunities he&#8217;ll have to sell or settle this for pennies on the dollar (but, more importantly, dollars to his pennies). And that &#8220;complicated lawsuit&#8221; he says he thinks the bank won&#8217;t file? I&#8217;m guessing he&#8217;s calculated exactly how many thousands of dollars the hassle is worth to the bank, and will take any offer that&#8217;s a dollar higher. (Probably not too high, either.)</p>
<p>Now if it really is straight up racism (or really, really sour grapes) that&#8217;s getting the neighbors antsy, okay, that sucks. But if it&#8217;s a question of the neighbors feeling like the <i>original</i> owner, pre-foreclosure, is getting the shaft, well, that&#8217;s a lot more understandable (if legally meaningless).</p>
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		<title>By: daneyul</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1166100</link>
		<dc:creator>daneyul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;And, I totally got the racist and sour grapes vibe from the woman they interviewed.

Racist vibe?  Being as she didn&#039;t say anything racist, is that vibe implicit every time someone has a complaint against a person or color, or was she actually...vibrating? Or was it something in her eyebrows?  Please--tell me more!  (Right now, I have to depend on more explicit clues to detect prejudice... like, for instance, when people make vague comments about people&#039;s &quot;vibes&quot;.)  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>>And, I totally got the racist and sour grapes vibe from the woman they interviewed.</p>
<p>Racist vibe?  Being as she didn&#8217;t say anything racist, is that vibe implicit every time someone has a complaint against a person or color, or was she actually&#8230;vibrating? Or was it something in her eyebrows?  Please&#8211;tell me more!  (Right now, I have to depend on more explicit clues to detect prejudice&#8230; like, for instance, when people make vague comments about people&#8217;s &#8220;vibes&#8221;.)  </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1166109</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a small child, I took adverse possession of my younger brother&#039;s candy bar once.  I was told by the authorities at the time that it did not belong to me, and thus it was not right to take it.

While I understand the historical basis for adverse possession laws, I think don&#039;t serve a counterproductive function in modern society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a small child, I took adverse possession of my younger brother&#8217;s candy bar once.  I was told by the authorities at the time that it did not belong to me, and thus it was not right to take it.</p>
<p>While I understand the historical basis for adverse possession laws, I think don&#8217;t serve a counterproductive function in modern society.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1166113</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If the home next door goes for 16 buckeroonies, what effect does that have on their own home values?&quot;

$16 was not the purchase price, it was legal fees.  He is not purchasing the house.  The most recent purchase price would still be whatever the forecloseees had paid for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If the home next door goes for 16 buckeroonies, what effect does that have on their own home values?&#8221;</p>
<p>$16 was not the purchase price, it was legal fees.  He is not purchasing the house.  The most recent purchase price would still be whatever the forecloseees had paid for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gulliver</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1166369</link>
		<dc:creator>Gulliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Don&#039;t you get it? Everyone white in the south is a racist. Especially Texas.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

People see what they want to see. Some see an upper-middle-class white woman in a southern state complaining about what she thinks is a squatter, and they assume she must hate minorities. Maybe theyâ€™re right, maybe theyâ€™re wrong. Who cares? Arguing with peopleâ€™s biases is like arguing with a wall, a waste of effort. If they want to question their prejudices, theyâ€™re already doing so. If not, no amount of debate will sway them. Human beings donâ€™t like accepting what they donâ€™t know about each other, and many deal with it by filling in the variables with their own cultural preconceptions.

Maybe the neighbors are pissed they trapped themselves under a mountain of debt while someone more clever got a similar house next door for $16. Again, who cares? Natural selection. They can suck it.

Maybe a neighbor acquiring a house for essentially zilch will affect their equity and thus ability to refinance as interest rates become more favorable. If so, too friggin bad.</description>
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Don&#8217;t you get it? Everyone white in the south is a racist. Especially Texas.
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<p>People see what they want to see. Some see an upper-middle-class white woman in a southern state complaining about what she thinks is a squatter, and they assume she must hate minorities. Maybe theyâ€™re right, maybe theyâ€™re wrong. Who cares? Arguing with peopleâ€™s biases is like arguing with a wall, a waste of effort. If they want to question their prejudices, theyâ€™re already doing so. If not, no amount of debate will sway them. Human beings donâ€™t like accepting what they donâ€™t know about each other, and many deal with it by filling in the variables with their own cultural preconceptions.</p>
<p>Maybe the neighbors are pissed they trapped themselves under a mountain of debt while someone more clever got a similar house next door for $16. Again, who cares? Natural selection. They can suck it.</p>
<p>Maybe a neighbor acquiring a house for essentially zilch will affect their equity and thus ability to refinance as interest rates become more favorable. If so, too friggin bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister44</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1165860</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you always just make shit up? Oh the only possible reason for someone to object is because of their race??!! o_0  

Of course - if the same person had used a loophole to take possession of a copyright or used eminent domain to take someone&#039;s property, we would be calling for justice.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you always just make shit up? Oh the only possible reason for someone to object is because of their race??!! o_0  </p>
<p>Of course &#8211; if the same person had used a loophole to take possession of a copyright or used eminent domain to take someone&#8217;s property, we would be calling for justice.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1166116</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone else wonder why the local government hasn&#039;t evicted him under health and safety codes? It&#039;s against the law to actually live in a building with no power or water in most communities I know of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone else wonder why the local government hasn&#8217;t evicted him under health and safety codes? It&#8217;s against the law to actually live in a building with no power or water in most communities I know of.</p>
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		<title>By: ADavies</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1166124</link>
		<dc:creator>ADavies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s weird how the neighbors get upset just because they&#039;re getting screwed on their mortgages and he&#039;s getting a better deal. I think this is sort of like when people cut you off in heavy traffic just because they don&#039;t want to be ahead of them. 

After all, it&#039;s only the bank this fellow is really hurting, and I think few Americans have much sympathy for the bank at this point.

Note:  He doesn&#039;t really get the house for nothing because he does have to do a certain amount of work for it (legal research, occupation, etc.), and take on some risk (ie. arrest).  Though it does sound like a pretty good deal.  

Maybe more people will try it, and maybe that will provide an incentive not to have homes sitting empty and unused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s weird how the neighbors get upset just because they&#8217;re getting screwed on their mortgages and he&#8217;s getting a better deal. I think this is sort of like when people cut you off in heavy traffic just because they don&#8217;t want to be ahead of them. </p>
<p>After all, it&#8217;s only the bank this fellow is really hurting, and I think few Americans have much sympathy for the bank at this point.</p>
<p>Note:  He doesn&#8217;t really get the house for nothing because he does have to do a certain amount of work for it (legal research, occupation, etc.), and take on some risk (ie. arrest).  Though it does sound like a pretty good deal.  </p>
<p>Maybe more people will try it, and maybe that will provide an incentive not to have homes sitting empty and unused.</p>
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		<title>By: hungryjoe</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1167152</link>
		<dc:creator>hungryjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we can find out which entity foreclosed on this property, then do a public records search for other properties to which they hold title, then we can get free-ish houses as well.

This may not be so relevant for most, but my family and friends still live in Denton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we can find out which entity foreclosed on this property, then do a public records search for other properties to which they hold title, then we can get free-ish houses as well.</p>
<p>This may not be so relevant for most, but my family and friends still live in Denton.</p>
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		<title>By: donniebnyc</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1166129</link>
		<dc:creator>donniebnyc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but the &quot;If the home next door goes for 16 buckeroonies, what effect does that have on their own home values?&quot; argument doesn&#039;t hold water.  While normally the value of a house is only what someone is willing to pay for it, that rule does not apply in this extreme case.  

Even if the person who was smart enough to figure out a way to grab this $300k home for $16 is content after investing three years of their life on, say, tripling their initial investment and selling for $48 (which is hardly likely) you still wouldn&#039;t have an argument because no other home in the area would be selling for such a paltry amount.  If a potential buyer came into my home that was for sale for $300k and told me I should lower my price because the house next door sold for $48, my response would be, &quot;You just keep looking for another $48 house and let me know when you find one.&quot;

I can&#039;t read minds either, but I think sour grapes and/or racism as reasons for the neighbors&#039; anger is worth a second look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but the &#8220;If the home next door goes for 16 buckeroonies, what effect does that have on their own home values?&#8221; argument doesn&#8217;t hold water.  While normally the value of a house is only what someone is willing to pay for it, that rule does not apply in this extreme case.  </p>
<p>Even if the person who was smart enough to figure out a way to grab this $300k home for $16 is content after investing three years of their life on, say, tripling their initial investment and selling for $48 (which is hardly likely) you still wouldn&#8217;t have an argument because no other home in the area would be selling for such a paltry amount.  If a potential buyer came into my home that was for sale for $300k and told me I should lower my price because the house next door sold for $48, my response would be, &#8220;You just keep looking for another $48 house and let me know when you find one.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t read minds either, but I think sour grapes and/or racism as reasons for the neighbors&#8217; anger is worth a second look.</p>
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		<title>By: TNGMug</title>
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		<dc:creator>TNGMug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neverming the &quot;free&quot; thing, I&#039;m still hung up on the $300K, which is close enough to free as it is - with that kind of money in Calgary you *might* be able to find a 3 bedroom bungalow with a kitchen updated as recently as the 1980&#039;s.

... then you get to shovel the driveway from october until may</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neverming the &#8220;free&#8221; thing, I&#8217;m still hung up on the $300K, which is close enough to free as it is &#8211; with that kind of money in Calgary you *might* be able to find a 3 bedroom bungalow with a kitchen updated as recently as the 1980&#8242;s.</p>
<p>&#8230; then you get to shovel the driveway from october until may</p>
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		<title>By: Gulliver</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1166389</link>
		<dc:creator>Gulliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s messed up. But, as you said, the circumstances are quite different. That was bald-faced abuse of adverse possession to steal land clearly belonging to someone else who planned to build a house to live in. This property is so far under water the mortgage owner walked away and the bank went belly-up. This is more arguably what the law was intended for, to prevent disused properties from languishing in ownership limbo. Still, it makes a good point. Two actually.

1) Laws that may serve justice in one circumstances may be perverted in another.

2) Retired politicians and judges have friends in high places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s messed up. But, as you said, the circumstances are quite different. That was bald-faced abuse of adverse possession to steal land clearly belonging to someone else who planned to build a house to live in. This property is so far under water the mortgage owner walked away and the bank went belly-up. This is more arguably what the law was intended for, to prevent disused properties from languishing in ownership limbo. Still, it makes a good point. Two actually.</p>
<p>1) Laws that may serve justice in one circumstances may be perverted in another.</p>
<p>2) Retired politicians and judges have friends in high places.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for him!  And what is the problem with his neighbors?  Are they maybe a little jealous that he figured out a way to get himself a free house?  Well, too bad.  Maybe if they had the brains to study the law and find this loophole they might have been able to do the same thing.  I&#039;m now looking into doing this myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for him!  And what is the problem with his neighbors?  Are they maybe a little jealous that he figured out a way to get himself a free house?  Well, too bad.  Maybe if they had the brains to study the law and find this loophole they might have been able to do the same thing.  I&#8217;m now looking into doing this myself.</p>
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		<title>By: CastanhasDoPara</title>
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		<dc:creator>CastanhasDoPara</dc:creator>
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		<description>Good for this guy I fully support him in this endeavour much as I would for most squatters. After all, what good is being served by having all of these properties vacant. Protecting some vague profit motive is surely not enough of a reason to bar this sort of occupancy.

As to the lady&#039;s &#039;vibe&#039; in this piece, she does certainly seem to be holding something back. And very few things seem logical to hold back in an interview for local news. Among those I would think racism, class-ism, and possibly sour grapes but sour grapes while tacky and crass in this situation is still a fairly reasonable response from a person under the mantle of crushing debt seeing their new neighbor win big while they trudge on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for this guy I fully support him in this endeavour much as I would for most squatters. After all, what good is being served by having all of these properties vacant. Protecting some vague profit motive is surely not enough of a reason to bar this sort of occupancy.</p>
<p>As to the lady&#8217;s &#8216;vibe&#8217; in this piece, she does certainly seem to be holding something back. And very few things seem logical to hold back in an interview for local news. Among those I would think racism, class-ism, and possibly sour grapes but sour grapes while tacky and crass in this situation is still a fairly reasonable response from a person under the mantle of crushing debt seeing their new neighbor win big while they trudge on.</p>
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		<title>By: ocschwar</title>
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		<dc:creator>ocschwar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a glut of houses in our country, that helped precipitate an economic depression, that is causing thousands of people to wind up homeless. 

I&#039;m not waiting for people like this guy. I&#039;,m lobbying to get my town to start seizing empty houses by eminent domain and find residents for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a glut of houses in our country, that helped precipitate an economic depression, that is causing thousands of people to wind up homeless. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not waiting for people like this guy. I&#8217;,m lobbying to get my town to start seizing empty houses by eminent domain and find residents for them.</p>
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		<title>By: fearuncertaintydoubt</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1166177</link>
		<dc:creator>fearuncertaintydoubt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because no one has burned a cross on his lawn, or made overt racial remarks, doesn&#039;t mean you can say that racism isn&#039;t involved here.  It&#039;s a lily-white upper middle class suburb in Texas; according to the census bureau, it&#039;s 3.1% black, with a median family income of almost $120K. The chances that it *is* at least partly racially-motivated are so high that you have to assume a purity of motives on the part of the neighbors that stretches the imagination.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because no one has burned a cross on his lawn, or made overt racial remarks, doesn&#8217;t mean you can say that racism isn&#8217;t involved here.  It&#8217;s a lily-white upper middle class suburb in Texas; according to the census bureau, it&#8217;s 3.1% black, with a median family income of almost $120K. The chances that it *is* at least partly racially-motivated are so high that you have to assume a purity of motives on the part of the neighbors that stretches the imagination.  </p>
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		<title>By: DoctressJulia</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1165927</link>
		<dc:creator>DoctressJulia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, hell yeah! This is awesome. I hope this happens more. And, I totally got the racist and sour grapes vibe from the woman they interviewed. I kind of liked watching her fume on camera- like &#039;oh noes a black man is living on my street!&#039;. 

I&#039;m in Wisconsin... I wonder if there are any houses like that around here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, hell yeah! This is awesome. I hope this happens more. And, I totally got the racist and sour grapes vibe from the woman they interviewed. I kind of liked watching her fume on camera- like &#8216;oh noes a black man is living on my street!&#8217;. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m in Wisconsin&#8230; I wonder if there are any houses like that around here?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1165935</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor examples. In both copyright or eminent domain cases, another party makes claim of ownership. This is a very nice abandoned house on a nice lot. He&#039;s the only one making an ownership claim.

It&#039;s not really a loophole. The law makes perfect sense. No community wants abandoned property with no owners making claim to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor examples. In both copyright or eminent domain cases, another party makes claim of ownership. This is a very nice abandoned house on a nice lot. He&#8217;s the only one making an ownership claim.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not really a loophole. The law makes perfect sense. No community wants abandoned property with no owners making claim to it.</p>
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		<title>By: emmdeeaych</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1166205</link>
		<dc:creator>emmdeeaych</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In what way exactly does it matter to the neighbors in what way the house ownership is aquired, as long as it is done in a legal matter? Does it _really_ matter to them, if it cost 300k or 15?&quot;

in the same exact what that gay marriage ruins straight marriage. It&#039;s only value is that you can feel superior by keeping others from getting what you got. Christ, I&#039;ve never seen a 300K house that was worth 300 actual K. People pay to be near their people... in this case I suspect its the &quot;afraid of home invasion soccer-mom / viagra popping lawn-care dad&quot; set. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In what way exactly does it matter to the neighbors in what way the house ownership is aquired, as long as it is done in a legal matter? Does it _really_ matter to them, if it cost 300k or 15?&#8221;</p>
<p>in the same exact what that gay marriage ruins straight marriage. It&#8217;s only value is that you can feel superior by keeping others from getting what you got. Christ, I&#8217;ve never seen a 300K house that was worth 300 actual K. People pay to be near their people&#8230; in this case I suspect its the &#8220;afraid of home invasion soccer-mom / viagra popping lawn-care dad&#8221; set. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1165950</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While at first excited and curious (for my own sake) as to how he (and I ) could pull this off, after some reflection of the tragedies behind this, I would be inclined to let the family who lost everything on this property start all over again.

AS for the enterprising man, I would put him in touch with Habitat for Humanity http://www.habitat.org/how/historytext.aspx 

It seems to me Augustus Gladstone:
http://www.boingboing.net/2011/07/18/video-tour-by-a-guy.html has slightly more integrity 

There are governments that orchestrate misfortune for home owners and reward ne&#039;r-do-wells

I know we were over taxed off our Ancestral land in 2005 by 150%</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While at first excited and curious (for my own sake) as to how he (and I ) could pull this off, after some reflection of the tragedies behind this, I would be inclined to let the family who lost everything on this property start all over again.</p>
<p>AS for the enterprising man, I would put him in touch with Habitat for Humanity <a href="http://www.habitat.org/how/historytext.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.habitat.org/how/historytext.aspx</a> </p>
<p>It seems to me Augustus Gladstone:<br />
<a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2011/07/18/video-tour-by-a-guy.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.boingboing.net/2011/07/18/video-tour-by-a-guy.html</a> has slightly more integrity </p>
<p>There are governments that orchestrate misfortune for home owners and reward ne&#8217;r-do-wells</p>
<p>I know we were over taxed off our Ancestral land in 2005 by 150%</p>
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		<title>By: jeblucas</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1165951</link>
		<dc:creator>jeblucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Careful all you eager Boingers. Laws for adverse possession varies wildly by state, hit the library and do your research before you start a-squattin&#039;.

I am pretty sure my neighbor&#039;s fence is a few inches on my side of the property line. At least once a year, in front of other witnesses, I explain that it&#039;s OK for him to have his fence on my property should that be the case. This is the &quot;permission&quot; clause, which mitigates adverse possession. He won&#039;t be able to claim that is the new property line as long as I keep doing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Careful all you eager Boingers. Laws for adverse possession varies wildly by state, hit the library and do your research before you start a-squattin&#8217;.</p>
<p>I am pretty sure my neighbor&#8217;s fence is a few inches on my side of the property line. At least once a year, in front of other witnesses, I explain that it&#8217;s OK for him to have his fence on my property should that be the case. This is the &#8220;permission&#8221; clause, which mitigates adverse possession. He won&#8217;t be able to claim that is the new property line as long as I keep doing this.</p>
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		<title>By: redstarr</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1166214</link>
		<dc:creator>redstarr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since it&#039;s a bank getting the screw this time, it doesn&#039;t feel as bad, but it&#039;s a precedent I don&#039;t like to see set.  Today, it&#039;s a belly-up bank that foreclosed on someone then let a house sit empty.  But tomorrow that sort of squatter&#039;s claim could be used against an individual who actually owns an empty property.  

I like that there&#039;s a law in place so that genuinely abandoned properties can come back into use, but there needs to be a much stricter criteria for being able to claim them and a better way of assuring they&#039;re reintegrated into the community appropriately.  Letting a guy just camp there with no utilities, paying no property taxes, no way to enforce upkeep of the house and lawn, is not doing the community any favors.  There needs to be a way for the squatter to prove that they&#039;re doing something good with the property and the community.  They need to be able to revitalize the property and be able to take care of it and have utilities and participate in the economy and pay taxes and such.  As it is, the squatters are only allowed to be a liability to a neighborhood, rather than an asset.  It&#039;s no wonder they don&#039;t welcome him.  

I&#039;m thinking squatters should have to prove that they&#039;ve maintained and made improvements to the house, paid up property taxes,become involved in the community, etc., in order to be able to gain legal rights to the property.  They should have to be able to prove that them occupying is doing more for the greater good than the building sitting empty.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since it&#8217;s a bank getting the screw this time, it doesn&#8217;t feel as bad, but it&#8217;s a precedent I don&#8217;t like to see set.  Today, it&#8217;s a belly-up bank that foreclosed on someone then let a house sit empty.  But tomorrow that sort of squatter&#8217;s claim could be used against an individual who actually owns an empty property.  </p>
<p>I like that there&#8217;s a law in place so that genuinely abandoned properties can come back into use, but there needs to be a much stricter criteria for being able to claim them and a better way of assuring they&#8217;re reintegrated into the community appropriately.  Letting a guy just camp there with no utilities, paying no property taxes, no way to enforce upkeep of the house and lawn, is not doing the community any favors.  There needs to be a way for the squatter to prove that they&#8217;re doing something good with the property and the community.  They need to be able to revitalize the property and be able to take care of it and have utilities and participate in the economy and pay taxes and such.  As it is, the squatters are only allowed to be a liability to a neighborhood, rather than an asset.  It&#8217;s no wonder they don&#8217;t welcome him.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking squatters should have to prove that they&#8217;ve maintained and made improvements to the house, paid up property taxes,become involved in the community, etc., in order to be able to gain legal rights to the property.  They should have to be able to prove that them occupying is doing more for the greater good than the building sitting empty.  </p>
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		<title>By: d3matt</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1165961</link>
		<dc:creator>d3matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yay! FloMo is featured on BoingBoing (oh wait...)

I doubt that house would pull in $300K if it was sold at market value. a 2 story house down the street from it is currently listed at $325.

Also, he&#039;s going to probably have trouble with the HOA long before his 3 years are up unless he can hookup water for his lawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yay! FloMo is featured on BoingBoing (oh wait&#8230;)</p>
<p>I doubt that house would pull in $300K if it was sold at market value. a 2 story house down the street from it is currently listed at $325.</p>
<p>Also, he&#8217;s going to probably have trouble with the HOA long before his 3 years are up unless he can hookup water for his lawn.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1166218</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;If he wants the house, buy the house like everyone else had to,&quot; Lowrie said. &quot;Get the money, buy the house.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hey, if he wants to live in a white neighborhood, be white like everybody else.  Get the white parents, get born white.

It&#039;s all so &lt;i&gt;easy&lt;/i&gt; you see!

There&#039;s a &quot;thorn&quot; character in my reCaptcha, for chrissakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;If he wants the house, buy the house like everyone else had to,&#8221; Lowrie said. &#8220;Get the money, buy the house.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Hey, if he wants to live in a white neighborhood, be white like everybody else.  Get the white parents, get born white.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all so <i>easy</i> you see!</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a &#8220;thorn&#8221; character in my reCaptcha, for chrissakes.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Petersen</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1165721</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neato!  My hat&#039;s off to the canny gentleman for doing his homework.  The neighbors can sit &amp; spin.</description>
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		<title>By: Mister44</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1166233</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t you get it? Everyone white in the south is a racist. Especially Texas.

Good gawd. I love how people loooovveee to throw racism around when they have *NO* evidence of it - just making asinine assumptions. It cheapens the word and makes people numb to it.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you get it? Everyone white in the south is a racist. Especially Texas.</p>
<p>Good gawd. I love how people loooovveee to throw racism around when they have *NO* evidence of it &#8211; just making asinine assumptions. It cheapens the word and makes people numb to it.</p>
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		<title>By: archmagetrexasaurus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/07/18/canny-fellow-gets-fo.html#comment-1165728</link>
		<dc:creator>archmagetrexasaurus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Get the money, buy the house.&quot;

LOL

Because everyone else in the neighborhood could afford their homes? I think the fact that this was a foreclosure tells a different story.

Also, 3 years without power or water, and terrible neighbors trying to get you kicked out? It sounds to me like he&#039;s really earning the $300K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Get the money, buy the house.&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL</p>
<p>Because everyone else in the neighborhood could afford their homes? I think the fact that this was a foreclosure tells a different story.</p>
<p>Also, 3 years without power or water, and terrible neighbors trying to get you kicked out? It sounds to me like he&#8217;s really earning the $300K.</p>
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