Glenn Beck compares murdered Norway campers to "Hitler Youth"

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  1. Tyler Firth says:

    He must be completely unaware of Boys State, which is an American institution and does the pretty much the same thing as the camp in Norway.

    • Harvey Lake says:

      Uh, Boys State is about a Representative Republic, not a Democracy. Democracy is Mob Rule.

      • Gulliver says:

        Not quite. Direct unlimited democracy is mob rule. Mobocracy and representative republic are both subsets of democracy.

        http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/democracy

        The USA in particular is an example of a constitutionally limited democratic republic, my personal fave BTW.

      • Applepackard says:

        Not really.  Not mob rule.  It was more white collar.

        True democracy (demos) is really about one person one vote.  True representation.  The fact there was great lobbying (even in Grecian times) and this lobbying cast out people through the vote.  The ancient Grecian general Themistocles is a good example of the dangers of true democracy.  This form of government is not mob rule, though like our republic of today, abuses can and do occur.

        After lying and deceiving his own government to protect Greece, Themistocles created the first Grecian city-state navy, created the land and sea battle plans for the Battle of Thermopylae, saved the people of Athens by ferrying the polis out of the city, and a while later avenging the betrayal of Thermopylae in the Battle of Salamis.  And after he did all that…the people voted in a true democracy, influenced by lobbyist and bought votes, and exiled him to the island of Argos.

  2. Martin Johnstone says:

    So now he is no longer on tv and just teh radio he tries to be even more shocking and outragous so people remember he exists.

    Just let him troll on his own and ignore the little troll

    • sigdrifa says:

      You see, the problem is, you can’t ignore these people. They are dangerous, because there are a lot of people who buy this cr*p. You have to constantly expose and contradict people like him.

  3. Ryan Griffin says:

    We really don’t need a picture of this ass clown on BB’s glorious feed. I propose a picture of a steaming pile of feces instead. At least that wouldn’t warrant a unicorn chaser.

  4. Palomino says:

    Boy Scouts of America:

    …….and my country……..”Help keep the United States a strong and fair nation by learning about our system of government and your responsibilities as a citizen and future voter.America is made up of countless families and communities. When you work to improve your community and your home, you are serving your country. Natural resources are another important part of America’s heritage worthy of your efforts to understand, protect, and use wisely. What you do can make a real difference.”

    Excerpted from page 45-46, Boy Scout Handbook, 11th ed,
    (#33105), copyright 1998 by BSA, ISBN 0-8395-3105-2and from page 420-421, Webelos Scout Book, 1998 edition,
    (#33108), copyright 1998 by BSA, ISBN 0-8395-3108-7

  5. oddboyout says:

    Hey wait a minute~ I thought AmeriCorps were Hitler Youth. The US and Norway can’t BOTH be Nazi Germany.

  6. rocjoe says:

    Of course he did, because Glenn Beck is a ginormous douche.

  7. Duffong says:

    …the last of the flat earthers are becoming desperate.

  8. Karl Williams says:

    Wait. Doesn’t the Tea Party do something similar to this?  A camp where kids can learn about politics (or what passes for politics in the Tea Party)?

  9. Jack Holmes says:

    Glenn Beck, ladies’ man.

  10. knoxblox says:

    Just to clarify, Boys AND Girls State are held in every state of the country, excluding Hawaii (probably due to transportation costs, I guess?). Delegates from each of these meetings go on to Boys or Girls Nation.

    “I mean, who does a camp for kids that’s all about politics?”

    Well, Glenn, just about every state in the country it seems, you doofus.

    I’m kind of regretting giving up my spot to go to Boys State when I had the chance. I’ve always felt I’ve been more suited to visual arts, writing, and film over engaging directly in politics, but I still wonder what kind of difference I could have made if I had attended.
    I may not have been the most politically engaging, but I’d have had fun trying to subvert the goals of the Glenn Beck-minded in attendance.

    • Vnend says:

      “I’m kind of regretting giving up my spot to go to Boys State when I had the chance.”

      Oh, good,  I’m not the only one.

      I occasionally look at the fields in local politics and wish that I had attended, so I would have more information about how I would fit in if I ran for a local office and won.  Then I consider that perhaps having myself committed wouldn’t be the most logical treatment for those symptoms…

  11. BarBarSeven says:

    Keep on spouting that nonsense, Beck! 4 more years for Obama!

  12. René Walter says:

    „Tea Party summer camp: Indoctrination for kids? New York – Welcome to Tampa Liberty School, a Glenn Beck – inspired summer camp that teaches 8-year-olds how to fight The Man.“

    http://www.sott.net/articles/show/232480-Glenn-Beck-Indoctrinates-Kids-With-His-Upcoming-Tea-Party-Summer-Camp

  13. He is a sad, sad, crazy man.  The more he talks the more evident it is that he is bat shit crazy.

    • Andrew Wood says:

      He’s not crazy, he’s a populist nut (see also 1980s televangelists).  Let’s be clear that he makes a fortune from spouting this crap.  It’s his followers who are crazy.

  14. Mexicant says:

    ….and people ask why I never saw his TV show.

    Good God

  15. vpgreg says:

    FFS. Keep trying to avoid this one. Oxygen. Publicity. …of. Exactly, let’s just leave him to rot. Far-right troll.

  16. catgrin says:

    When I was in high school, I went on a week-long trip to Washington D.C. I’d consider that equivalent to camp even though it was a state school sponsored function (paid for by parents). The whole point of it was to learn firsthand about U.S. politics and visit historical sites so that kids growing up on the west coast could be more in touch with our country. I’ve been back since, but I still remember the video they showed of Oprah Winfrey discussing the danger of “ism’s” (no joke, it was a really interesting show) and visiting the Lincoln Memorial that first time.

  17. haineux says:

    Found, in Mac OS X Lion’s new Apple Color Emoji font, a picture more suitable than Glen Beck.

  18. haineux says:

    Found, in Mac OS X Lion’s new Apple Color Emoji font, a picture more suitable than Glen Beck.

  19. catgrin says:

    When I was in high school, I went on a week-long trip to Washington D.C. I’d consider that equivalent to camp even though it was a state school sponsored function (paid for by parents). The whole point of it was to learn firsthand about U.S. politics and visit historical sites so that kids growing up on the west coast could be more in touch with our country. I’ve been back since, but I still remember the video they showed of Oprah Winfrey discussing the danger of “ism’s” (no joke, it was a really interesting show) and visiting the Lincoln Memorial that first time.

  20. Mexicant says:

    ….and people ask why I never saw his TV show.

    Good God

  21. mfrankly says:

    Wait. Is Beck defending Breivik? Is he saying those kids, being evil brainwashed automatons, deserved what they got?

    Is that what he’s saying?

    Why does the radical right despise democracy so much?

    • Kevin Pierce says:

      He’s got time to fill – it’s not a question of quality – it’s quantity – just enough to fit between the ads.

  22. Sasha Milinkovic says:

    I hope he comes to Norway on a vacation or something…
    ( that is if he ever leaves the states… Something tells me that if he did he’d turn into a puff of smoke and dry leaves of evil tea)

  23. ClayManBob says:

    I had a hound dog that was smarter than Beck, and she was dumber than a sack of bricks.

  24. Huwman says:

     I think we Canucks are always a bit leery about commenting too earnestly on entities like Beck or Coulter since, in the back of our minds,  we can’t shake the nagging belief that they must be part of some massive hoax being perpetrated on us by our canny neighbours to the south. I mean, can comments like this be genuine? It seems to beggar belief.

    • snoproblem says:

      I swear that all the comic book, over-the-top mustache-twirling going on in the U.S., lately, is just a noisy smokescreen to cover for something far, far nastier. 

      Watch yer asses, neighbours.

    • Gulliver says:

      I held out that same hope for years, and I live here! Alas, Beck is really that divorced from reality. Coulter on the other hand…I recall a couple years ago an essay by her listing all the people she’d ticked off and wondering if she missed anyone. Very strange. Either way, both have a screw loose. But I’d wager Beck get’s the gold medal for pundit d-bag world champion, he seems to want it more than the other contenders.

      Besides, trust me, we’re not that well coordinated down here.

    • jmcgarry says:

      Huwman, we Canucks only need look to the Ford brothers currently holding sway in Toronto to know that we have the same problem in Canada. Oh they aren’t quite Mr. Beck, but claiming not to recognize Margaret Atwood is somewhere on that same curve. And our neo-cons seem to be a whole lot smarter at hiding teh crazy.

  25. FranzAblinger says:

    He disqualifies himself by his lack of knowledge. Hitler Youth was not something you attend by choice. Every child _had_ to sign up (except disabled persons – much of them were murdered during WWII), against their own and against their parents will, enforced with police power. And it was the only organization allowed. Please learn history, but not from wikipedia.

  26. “My Norwegian colleagues have verified that the only way to gain entrance into the Norwegian political structure is through these camps.”

    I’m calling a great big bullshit on that one.

    • It’s not entirely wrong, actually. At least on the national level, and keep in mind that Norway is a small country. All the parties, from the far right to the far left, have their own youth organizations. Typically, the members range from mid-teens to mid-twenties. Most politicians have experience from youth organizations. Voters would probably be skeptical to a candidate for prime minister who has not been active in politics from an early age. That said, politics is obviously not a secret society. You could just as well become active in politics as an adult and even get elected to various positions. But there would be a lot of people around you with years of experience.

      The youth organizations are connected to the party and attend the national meetings, but often have great independence from the official party policy. It’s not uncommon for a party’s youth organization to disagree with the party, even on important issues.

      • You just said the same thing I said only with a lot of irrelevant implication and innuendo considered. The point is, there’s nothing actually stopping any average Norwegian citizen from getting elected regardless of their attendance at any youth camps; therefore the line I quoted is utter bullshit and should probably not be dignified with attempts to see what it was trying to get at.

    • FrodeSvendsen says:

      As a licensed norwegian, I can assure you that this is not true. I’m sure that for some parties, like the Labour Party, it’s might be easier to climb the party-ladder if you have attended these camps, but it is not in any way required.

  27. gianfrancolopesci says:

    And an Italian politician, Borghezio, member of the European parliament, said that “Breivik’s ideas are right nonetheless”. Miserable european and american scumbags.

  28. ackpht says:

    Our Canadian neighbors have it right. Taking this sort of commentary seriously -even if only to ridicule it- is buying into a game that someone wants us to play.

  29. gianfrancolopesci says:

    @ ackpht I disagree. Just mocking them in a sort of “snob-ism superiority” is a great mistake. In fact, their rants feed the souls of people like Breivik, or the Oklahoma guy. We don’t take them seriously till a tragedy happens.

  30. Ahkenhaton says:

    What’s odious about this pathetic man is not his views, which are clearly ignorant and absurd, but his shameless use of a tragedy on an unimaginable scale to promote himself. All those Norwegian youngsters dead at the hand of someone that would likely have been a Beck fan, and yet Beck still lives and breathes. No justice in this world.

  31. ecflan says:

    “Will no one rid me of this troublesome Jackhole?”

  32. snakedart says:

     Mr. Beck,

    Vade et caca in pilleum et ipse traheatur super aures tuo.

  33. CastanhasDoPara says:

    One of my favorite words, ‘kakistocracy’. Look it up if you dare.

  34. Lodewijk Gonggrijp says:

    Glenn Beck wants attention like Breivik wanted.
    You gave it to him.
    Beck wins.

    Also, I feel sick now.

  35. RuthlessRuben says:

    I think sooner or later we’ve reached the point now where we’re allowed to be glad when Glenn Beck dies. Right now, it’s like “Glenn Beck has a heart attack, nobody cares” but a couple more like that and it’d be like “Glenn Beck is attacked by pack of rabid baboons, onlookers cheer the baboons”.

  36. Morten Gulden says:

    This one was actually noticed here in Norway, we’re not… impressed. Also, Utøya is about teens gathering on an island to talk about the world, get drunk/high, make out in the bushes.

    • EvilSpirit says:

      Yeah, I can’t imagine the Norwegians brushing Beck’s dickery off lightly. Norway already had its ordeal with a Hitler-like figure, and his name was Adolf Hitler.

      Perhaps Beck failed to look up the word “quisling” in the dictionary.

  37. tackmac says:

    Dork… enough said

  38. about that free speech thing…

    • RuthlessRuben says:

      Free speech? Yes. But: If I come to the funeral of a person who was shot in the face in a terrorist attack and basically berate that person, I should not be surprised to have my teeth relocated to my lower intestine. Action-reaction.

      Likewise, if anyone, Glenn Beck included, makes comments such as these, exercising his right to free speech, then I can exercise my right to free speech by telling him that in my opinion he’s a smear of feces across the face of humanity. Action-reaction.

      Free speech cuts both ways. And just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.

    • Xopher says:

      about that free speech thing…

      What about it?  No one has said he should be silenced by the government.  Free speech doesn’t mean freedom from criticism. 

      Glenn Beck is a colossal turd.  That hasn’t changed.  He just made it a little more obvious with this statement. Personally I think we should just remember this as “Beck made comments sympathetic to the Oslo mass murderer.”  It’s no more than he deserves.

      • jaduncan says:

        You mean “In 2011, Glenn Beck viciously slandered the victims of politically motivated violence. Why does Glenn Beck love terrorism?”

  39. jackie31337 says:

    who does a camp for kids that’s all about politics?

    Hmm… maybe a culture that values educating young people about politics so they can make informed choices when they’re old enough to vote?

  40. jonjonz says:

    Here is the deal.  Show one more example of that horses arse here and we will abandon this site forever.  Think of the children.

  41. Phillip Wise says:

    Yeah, who does a camp for kids all about politics?  And who pledges $10,000 to it?

    http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/03/21/teaching-kids-about-the-founders-principles-and-values/

  42. Mujokan says:

    Glenn Beck is not that far off of the shooter himself. He does the same kind of generalized demonization of Muslims, multi-culturalism, socialism, etc. So he defends the guy. Fairly easy to understand. That and whatever speed type drug he is addicted to.

  43. OldBrownSquirrel says:

    Somehow I have trouble imagining a future pope growing up in Norway.

  44. krjames says:

    Beck defends Breivik.

    Need anymore be said?

  45. bruckelsprout says:

    Beck is a witch hunter.  He’s just trying to recapture the magic of the Salem witch trials, the Spanish Inquisition or McCarthyism… you know – the good ‘ole days.

  46. george57l says:

    Doesn’t it still only take two qualified doctors to commit some one to an asylum?

  47. Don’t feed the troll.

  48. Frank Minutillo says:

    Why can’t we just make up our minds to simply ignore this character. He does not exist….

  49. calebcharles says:

    Who is Glen Beck?

    • bruckelsprout says:

      God bless you.  Please, preserve your innocence for as long as possible.  Don’t Google him or ask anyone sitting around you.  There is far too little purity left in the world.

  50. Jason Haas says:

    Every camp for children is political. I think Althusser sums  it up pretty well: http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/althusser/1970/ideology.htm

  51. finette says:

    @Tyler Firth: Yeah, I told my brother who attended Boys State as a teen and is now a Congressional liaison at the Library of Congress that he might as well cop to his Nazi indoctrination now, because Glenn Beck is on to him.

    Boys and Girls State are sponsored by the American Legion. I’ve been hoping they’ll give Beck a nice veterans’ smackdown, but alas it hasn’t happened.

  52. Jim Saul says:

    I went ahead and skimmed the “manifesto”, and much of it is indistinguishable from a Beck show transcript.  Since getting called out on this bullshit, Beck has doubled-down instead of apologized, raging on about how liberals are nazis and America is lost without revolution.  He doesn’t really stop short of calling for more of these kind of atrocities, he just stops short of immediate legal liability.

    For an example of how the right wing forums are full of such murderous talk, one need only go to see what the freepers were saying as the tragedy unfolded:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2752400/posts?q=1&;page=1

    For example:

    “A time of ethnic cleansing will come again to Europe.

    If it comes soon, the Muslims will be purged.
    If Europe waits long enough, it will be the Europeans who will be purged.”You’ve just about said it all in three lines.White/Christian/Western Europeans know in their hearts what must be done.Whether they will discover the intestinal fortitude required to do it in time — well, that’s the $64 question. Right now it doesn’t look all that good, but it’s not yet time to completely give up hope.There _are_ political parties in Western Europe that know what must be done. However, they are attacked by the _other parties_ as being “racist”, “xenophobic”, or whatever. Yet if ANYone is able to “save Europe”, it will be the far-right-wing parties. NONE of the other parties will come around in time; indeed, amongst them, it will more likely be a question of which one surrenders first.I’ve posted this before on FR, and I’ll post it again:Western Europe has but two choices:
    1. Boxcars, or…
    2. Burqhas.If Europeans do not choose option #1 in due time, they WILL have option #2 forced upon them.That may go for us here in North America, too.Just sayin’….
    53 posted on Fri Jul 22 2011 13:34:56 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it’s only deja vu!)
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  53. Rich Keller says:

    Beck’s comment came from a man who, while on the air, phoned and mocked the wife of a radio show rival after her miscarriage. [According to the wikipedia article about him, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_beck#Radio. Some people have the talent to say the most comforting thing in a situation. His talent lies in his ability to think of the wort possible thing to say and then blurt it out in a self-piteous way that somehow makes him the victim of every awful thing that’s ever happened in history.

    If you want him to fade into obscurity and wish never to hear from him again, go after his sponsors. Tell them that even though you love their products and have been a loyal buyer for years, you cannot conscientiously buy anything they sell since they sponsor such a poor quality program full of  lies and hate. With enough of this, they’ll stop giving him money and stations will drop him and, for all practical purposes, he’ll just disappear.

    • L_Mariachi says:

      Last I checked he had already lost all his mainstream sponsors and now gets by advertising largely for fly-by-night gold specie hucksters, fellow wingnuts’ self-published vanity projects, things of that nature.

  54. Brainspore says:

    Like I said on another thread, the part of Beck’s brain that recognizes Nazi-esque characteristics appears to have been put in backwards. Most of the people he labels “Nazis” (like the mixed-race President, the gay Jewish congressman or the philanthropist who narrowly escaped the death camps as a child) wouldn’t be accepted into the Third Reich if they came with a truckload of jackboots and a bouquet of swastikas. Then, when an actual, bona-fide neo-nazi white supremacist comes along Beck says he’s more like Osama Bin Laden, but those liberal democracy-minded kids he slaughtered were looking pretty darn nazi-ish.

    And yes, there are a number of summer camps in the U.S. tied to Beck’s 9/12 project that are much more analogous to the “Hitler Youth” than this Norwegian group.

  55. lthrcoat says:

    Sounds reasonable to me.  If you’d get your emotions in check it’s extremely logical.  Beck is certainly not comparing their ideologies, he’s comparing their methodology.  Can’t imagine sending my kid to a camp to indoctrinate them into politics….sheesh.

    • Xopher says:

      Don’t feed the troll, fellow commenters.

    • Avram Grumer says:

      No, lthrcoat, he is deliberately drawing the comparison to the Nazis because that lets him taint the victims of an anti-Muslim right-wing zealot for whose views Beck has some sympathy. 

      In every major democratic nation in the world, you can find kids’ camps with a political bend. Here in the US, there are right-wing camps, left-wing camps, Zionist camps, etc. Are they all creepy and Nazi-like? 

  56. cazart says:

    Who’s Glenn Beck?

  57. loroferoz says:

    Let’s do ourselves a favor. Ignore the troll. Simply ignore the radio troll called Glenn Beck.

  58. TripleE78 says:

    Christ, what an asshole.

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