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	<title>Comments on: Norwegian PM refuses to let terrorist attacks drive his country to intolerance and paranoid&#160;&quot;security&quot;</title>
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		<title>By: costeau</title>
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		<dc:creator>costeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 12:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cory,
Am I right in understanding that you&#039;d want to hear Bush saying after 911 the same thing Jens said after the Oslo bombing and Utøya massacre?

Swedish politician Mona Sahlin said something like:
11th Sep. 2001, the dust cloud starts settling over NYC.
George W. Bush grabs the microphone: &quot;Let&#039;s hunt them down!&quot;

22nd Jul. 2011, the dust cloud starts settling over Oslo.
Jens Stoltenberg grabs the microphone: &quot;Let&#039;s take good care of each other!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cory,<br />
Am I right in understanding that you&#8217;d want to hear Bush saying after 911 the same thing Jens said after the Oslo bombing and Utøya massacre?</p>
<p>Swedish politician Mona Sahlin said something like:<br />
11th Sep. 2001, the dust cloud starts settling over NYC.<br />
George W. Bush grabs the microphone: &#8220;Let&#8217;s hunt them down!&#8221;</p>
<p>22nd Jul. 2011, the dust cloud starts settling over Oslo.<br />
Jens Stoltenberg grabs the microphone: &#8220;Let&#8217;s take good care of each other!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Glafunk Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glafunk Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perfect words by Stoltenberg but actually I (a Norwegian in case that isn&#039;t clear) have lost all hope in our society (and really also all possible societies), it feels like nothing but lies, superficiality, and incredible levels of hypocrisy now. That opinion has been gradually building up during almost two decades. I fought against it, did my share as able or far more, and wanted to keep believing we could work it out. Now I can&#039;t manage to do any of that any more so I&#039;ll just go into a passive mode where I stop caring about people who insist on drowning while they insult me and anyone else trying to help, all while they believe we&#039;re the very monsters out to drown them...

I must stop caring and that in itself is hard to do. I shouldn&#039;t even bother writing this yet I do. Guess I want to supply a different view for free thinkers, maybe I&#039;m just an unique aberration or maybe everyone else long past understood that societies are always shams and call it &quot;growing up&quot; and learn to lie with every breath.

Sure, pretty words and flowers and candlelight and hugs and all that but the unavoidably real and officially documented problems seem destined to continue to be all but ignored, all major newspapers have introduced and called for even more censorship and surveillance as if the unconstitutional &quot;DLD&quot; wasn&#039;t bad enough, and people are getting busy throwing even more dirt on &quot;political&quot; opponents in all directions including at themselves (although they may not realize). Its like they&#039;ve neither understood the prime minister&#039;s words nor the attacker&#039;s intent (revolutionary pan-European civil war, something which they&#039;re all too busy bringing into reality bit by bit through demonizing opponents with even more vigor than before), this despite it all being stated in the most plain and easily understandable language.

If this keeps up Breivik will have succeeded beyond his wildest imagination (it won&#039;t take 70 years) and I&#039;m not sure I want to hang around to witness it (although I likely don&#039;t have any choice). Breivik&#039;s opening gambit on provoking outrage that will in turn alienate anyone remotely &quot;rightwing&quot; from participating democratically has so far been surprisingly successful, he has played us all and will unfortunately likely continue to do so no matter if he&#039;s dead or alive.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfect words by Stoltenberg but actually I (a Norwegian in case that isn&#8217;t clear) have lost all hope in our society (and really also all possible societies), it feels like nothing but lies, superficiality, and incredible levels of hypocrisy now. That opinion has been gradually building up during almost two decades. I fought against it, did my share as able or far more, and wanted to keep believing we could work it out. Now I can&#8217;t manage to do any of that any more so I&#8217;ll just go into a passive mode where I stop caring about people who insist on drowning while they insult me and anyone else trying to help, all while they believe we&#8217;re the very monsters out to drown them&#8230;</p>
<p>I must stop caring and that in itself is hard to do. I shouldn&#8217;t even bother writing this yet I do. Guess I want to supply a different view for free thinkers, maybe I&#8217;m just an unique aberration or maybe everyone else long past understood that societies are always shams and call it &#8220;growing up&#8221; and learn to lie with every breath.</p>
<p>Sure, pretty words and flowers and candlelight and hugs and all that but the unavoidably real and officially documented problems seem destined to continue to be all but ignored, all major newspapers have introduced and called for even more censorship and surveillance as if the unconstitutional &#8220;DLD&#8221; wasn&#8217;t bad enough, and people are getting busy throwing even more dirt on &#8220;political&#8221; opponents in all directions including at themselves (although they may not realize). Its like they&#8217;ve neither understood the prime minister&#8217;s words nor the attacker&#8217;s intent (revolutionary pan-European civil war, something which they&#8217;re all too busy bringing into reality bit by bit through demonizing opponents with even more vigor than before), this despite it all being stated in the most plain and easily understandable language.</p>
<p>If this keeps up Breivik will have succeeded beyond his wildest imagination (it won&#8217;t take 70 years) and I&#8217;m not sure I want to hang around to witness it (although I likely don&#8217;t have any choice). Breivik&#8217;s opening gambit on provoking outrage that will in turn alienate anyone remotely &#8220;rightwing&#8221; from participating democratically has so far been surprisingly successful, he has played us all and will unfortunately likely continue to do so no matter if he&#8217;s dead or alive.</p>
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		<title>By: FrodeSvendsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrodeSvendsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There simply isn&#039;t a need for that here, normally.. Keeping a mothballed helicopter for such an occasion seems needlessly expensive. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There simply isn&#8217;t a need for that here, normally.. Keeping a mothballed helicopter for such an occasion seems needlessly expensive. </p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Wu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Wu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arguably any special weapons team should have their own helicopters. Just sayin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arguably any special weapons team should have their own helicopters. Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 19:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So they&#039;re not going to run around like scared idiots lashing out at the entire planet and their own citizens who are also acting out in ugly fear, anger and paranoia?

Beautiful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So they&#8217;re not going to run around like scared idiots lashing out at the entire planet and their own citizens who are also acting out in ugly fear, anger and paranoia?</p>
<p>Beautiful.</p>
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		<title>By: pajp</title>
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		<dc:creator>pajp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 19:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, last time I checked Norway wasn&#039;t an EU member state?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, last time I checked Norway wasn&#8217;t an EU member state?</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Goodwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Goodwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 18:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Luck, it isn&#039;t very easy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Luck, it isn&#8217;t very easy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Crispian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crispian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A War on Terror. Never a &quot;Crusade.&quot; That is your own invention. He never equated Islam to evil or terrorism. Go read the speeches. But that is a slightly separate debate from what Doctorow is speaking of: treating something as military matter and increasing security. An exit strategy is nice, though I&#039;m sure you don&#039;t entirely understand the term. And I don&#039;t know how its relevant to the topic at hand. And you think Obama is on a Crusade? As far as restoring the Constitution, it is a terrible precedent Obama has set by attacking a foreign nation without congressional approval on the basis that such action doesn&#039;t count as &quot;hostilities.&quot; Again, that&#039;s not about openness, tolerance, or anything like that. You are just confusing too many important issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A War on Terror. Never a &#8220;Crusade.&#8221; That is your own invention. He never equated Islam to evil or terrorism. Go read the speeches. But that is a slightly separate debate from what Doctorow is speaking of: treating something as military matter and increasing security. An exit strategy is nice, though I&#8217;m sure you don&#8217;t entirely understand the term. And I don&#8217;t know how its relevant to the topic at hand. And you think Obama is on a Crusade? As far as restoring the Constitution, it is a terrible precedent Obama has set by attacking a foreign nation without congressional approval on the basis that such action doesn&#8217;t count as &#8220;hostilities.&#8221; Again, that&#8217;s not about openness, tolerance, or anything like that. You are just confusing too many important issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Navin_Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Navin_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 18:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of those chaps had little credibility before they made their statement anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of those chaps had little credibility before they made their statement anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: straponego</title>
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		<dc:creator>straponego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 18:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tolerance?  Bush declared a Crusade, aka the War on Terror, which would 
&quot;rid the world of evil.&quot;  It&#039;s nice that we have an exit strategy, 
though.  As soon as there is no more evil in the world we can stop 
slaughtering people and restore the Constitution.  Obama is opening a couple fronts per year in the Crusade, but at least he&#039;s smart enough not to call it a holy war.  Yay.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tolerance?  Bush declared a Crusade, aka the War on Terror, which would<br />
&#8220;rid the world of evil.&#8221;  It&#8217;s nice that we have an exit strategy,<br />
though.  As soon as there is no more evil in the world we can stop<br />
slaughtering people and restore the Constitution.  Obama is opening a couple fronts per year in the Crusade, but at least he&#8217;s smart enough not to call it a holy war.  Yay.</p>
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		<title>By: Crispian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crispian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 17:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As others have at least intimated: so what? Should we be glad that they are going to treat an attack by a crazed citizen as a criminal matter? That&#039;s what America did when the but flew his plane into the IRS building and when the lunatic Loughner shot Rep. Giffords and others. When a group of foreigners directed by a known terrorist organization commits an attack, it will be different.

Bush&#039;s first speech: &quot;The search is underway for those who are behind these evil acts. I&#039;ve 
directed the full resources for our intelligence and law enforcement 
communities to find those responsible and bring them to justice. We will
 make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and
 those who harbor them.&quot;

As opposed to what? &quot;The NYPD and the FBI will be looking into this matter, but be assured, we will be a more open, a more tolerant society than what we had before.”

Yeah, I&#039;m sure we all wish that had been what he said. /sarcasm

Bush constantly stressed tolerance and painted the 9/11 hijackers are extremists not representing Islam. We can criticize the policies and laws intended to stop such attacks in the future, but don&#039;t pretend we wanted to hear all about tolerance and openness when a foreign organization attacked us. While we shouldn&#039;t have had internment camps during WWII, the problem wasn&#039;t that Roosevelt didn&#039;t stress how we will be more open and tolerant after the bombing of Pearl Harbor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As others have at least intimated: so what? Should we be glad that they are going to treat an attack by a crazed citizen as a criminal matter? That&#8217;s what America did when the but flew his plane into the IRS building and when the lunatic Loughner shot Rep. Giffords and others. When a group of foreigners directed by a known terrorist organization commits an attack, it will be different.</p>
<p>Bush&#8217;s first speech: &#8220;The search is underway for those who are behind these evil acts. I&#8217;ve<br />
directed the full resources for our intelligence and law enforcement<br />
communities to find those responsible and bring them to justice. We will<br />
 make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and<br />
 those who harbor them.&#8221;</p>
<p>As opposed to what? &#8220;The NYPD and the FBI will be looking into this matter, but be assured, we will be a more open, a more tolerant society than what we had before.”</p>
<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m sure we all wish that had been what he said. /sarcasm</p>
<p>Bush constantly stressed tolerance and painted the 9/11 hijackers are extremists not representing Islam. We can criticize the policies and laws intended to stop such attacks in the future, but don&#8217;t pretend we wanted to hear all about tolerance and openness when a foreign organization attacked us. While we shouldn&#8217;t have had internment camps during WWII, the problem wasn&#8217;t that Roosevelt didn&#8217;t stress how we will be more open and tolerant after the bombing of Pearl Harbor.</p>
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		<title>By: Sekino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sekino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I often wonder how much more common-sense and awesomeness Scandinavia has to display until we on this side of the Atlantic, oh, you know, LEARN something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often wonder how much more common-sense and awesomeness Scandinavia has to display until we on this side of the Atlantic, oh, you know, LEARN something.</p>
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		<title>By: ChicagoD</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChicagoD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The British example with the IRA is not a very good comparison. The IRA often operated outside of Britain and operated in some senses as a military force. In any case, do you really think that &quot;treating this as a police matter&quot; means that right wing extremists in Norway will not be monitored etc.? That&#039;s exactly what it means. And because those tools are available domestically, there will be no Predator strikes . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The British example with the IRA is not a very good comparison. The IRA often operated outside of Britain and operated in some senses as a military force. In any case, do you really think that &#8220;treating this as a police matter&#8221; means that right wing extremists in Norway will not be monitored etc.? That&#8217;s exactly what it means. And because those tools are available domestically, there will be no Predator strikes . . .</p>
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		<title>By: ChicagoD</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChicagoD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People forget that the U.S. went through this with Tim McVeigh and has mostly treated similar domestic groups as police matters. I think that implicit comparison between Norway today and the U.S. on September 12, 2001 is somewhat misplaced for this reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People forget that the U.S. went through this with Tim McVeigh and has mostly treated similar domestic groups as police matters. I think that implicit comparison between Norway today and the U.S. on September 12, 2001 is somewhat misplaced for this reason.</p>
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		<title>By: silmarillionstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>silmarillionstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll join you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll join you!</p>
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		<title>By: Magne Gisvold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magne Gisvold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>read above. a lot of western countries have waged war on their &quot;inner demons&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>read above. a lot of western countries have waged war on their &#8220;inner demons&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: chris jimson</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris jimson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And so it feeds the growing &quot;false flag&quot; narrative.  *sigh*   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And so it feeds the growing &#8220;false flag&#8221; narrative.  *sigh*   </p>
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		<title>By: William Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, I think you&#039;re wrong to remove McVeigh and Breivik from the same sphere at the hijackers. These are crimes, all of them. A full 19 of the 9/11 terrorists were SAUDIs. Did you see a war anywhere with Saudi Arabia? Did Wolfe Blitzer do a 10 minute segment on the military capabilities of Field Marshall Saleh Al-Muhaya?

Who were we supposed to go to war with then? No one could answer that, then or now, so Shrubbsey and Lone Cheney went to war with the country where the guy who funded the bombing of the world trade centers was living in a cave. That&#039;s who we went to war with. And it still, to this day, makes NO SENSE and produced NO RESULTS, aside from the deaths of thousands of soldiers, tens of thousands of civilians, rekindled the fear and depravity that war instills in man leading to Abu Gharaib and increased animosity for the U.S. around the world. So mea culpa, there were some results, but not the one we wanted. 10 years of military action didn&#039;t deliver THE GUY.

Because how did we get the cave-jumper? The intelligence community conducted an international criminal investigation. Detective work is what produced the double-tap. All the bombs we dropped and the drones we piloted did NOTHING.

Terrorism is a smoke-screen. It is a pretense used by war profiteers and warmongers to instill fear and worry in the minds of a populace in order to advance their aims and their agenda. Terrorists are almost to a one themselves fearful, weak-minded individuals, often poor and underprivileged people brought together by wealthy, influential, well-educated ideologues and brainwashed into committing terrific and horrible CRIMES. I would place good money that a comparative study of the psychological profiles of the 9/11 hijackers and Breivik would find tremendous commonalities in religious temperment, social acceptance, and mental pathologies of persecution and paranoia.

By 3PM on 9/11/01, sitting in my dorm room, I knew precisely what I wanted to hear from the President of the United States, and like Cory, I am incredibly pleased to hear them now 10 years later, but also extremely sad that it took so long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, I think you&#8217;re wrong to remove McVeigh and Breivik from the same sphere at the hijackers. These are crimes, all of them. A full 19 of the 9/11 terrorists were SAUDIs. Did you see a war anywhere with Saudi Arabia? Did Wolfe Blitzer do a 10 minute segment on the military capabilities of Field Marshall Saleh Al-Muhaya?</p>
<p>Who were we supposed to go to war with then? No one could answer that, then or now, so Shrubbsey and Lone Cheney went to war with the country where the guy who funded the bombing of the world trade centers was living in a cave. That&#8217;s who we went to war with. And it still, to this day, makes NO SENSE and produced NO RESULTS, aside from the deaths of thousands of soldiers, tens of thousands of civilians, rekindled the fear and depravity that war instills in man leading to Abu Gharaib and increased animosity for the U.S. around the world. So mea culpa, there were some results, but not the one we wanted. 10 years of military action didn&#8217;t deliver THE GUY.</p>
<p>Because how did we get the cave-jumper? The intelligence community conducted an international criminal investigation. Detective work is what produced the double-tap. All the bombs we dropped and the drones we piloted did NOTHING.</p>
<p>Terrorism is a smoke-screen. It is a pretense used by war profiteers and warmongers to instill fear and worry in the minds of a populace in order to advance their aims and their agenda. Terrorists are almost to a one themselves fearful, weak-minded individuals, often poor and underprivileged people brought together by wealthy, influential, well-educated ideologues and brainwashed into committing terrific and horrible CRIMES. I would place good money that a comparative study of the psychological profiles of the 9/11 hijackers and Breivik would find tremendous commonalities in religious temperment, social acceptance, and mental pathologies of persecution and paranoia.</p>
<p>By 3PM on 9/11/01, sitting in my dorm room, I knew precisely what I wanted to hear from the President of the United States, and like Cory, I am incredibly pleased to hear them now 10 years later, but also extremely sad that it took so long.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Muntz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Muntz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers for Norway.  And its nice to not find racist comments in the responses in this article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers for Norway.  And its nice to not find racist comments in the responses in this article.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silly Norwegians.  They&#039;re never going to win the war against terror unless they start strip-searching Grandma.  And what&#039;s that baby got in its rattler?  Could it be a bomb?!  Oh, noes!

Yay Norway!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silly Norwegians.  They&#8217;re never going to win the war against terror unless they start strip-searching Grandma.  And what&#8217;s that baby got in its rattler?  Could it be a bomb?!  Oh, noes!</p>
<p>Yay Norway!</p>
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		<title>By: Guido</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s sad that this happened, but i hope that at least this means people will pay more attention to Norway in particular and Scandinavia in general. Often debate about politics ignores them completely, like the only two possible alternatives are the USSR and a version of the US that would be Rand&#039;s wet dream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sad that this happened, but i hope that at least this means people will pay more attention to Norway in particular and Scandinavia in general. Often debate about politics ignores them completely, like the only two possible alternatives are the USSR and a version of the US that would be Rand&#8217;s wet dream.</p>
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		<title>By: derekprior</title>
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		<dc:creator>derekprior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly sounds refreshing, but this attack sounds like it had a lot more in common with the OKC Federal Building bombing carried out by domestic &quot;terrorist&quot; Timmothy McVeigh than it does with 9/11. It strikes me as an easier tune to sing under those circumstances. Who is he supposed to go to war with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly sounds refreshing, but this attack sounds like it had a lot more in common with the OKC Federal Building bombing carried out by domestic &#8220;terrorist&#8221; Timmothy McVeigh than it does with 9/11. It strikes me as an easier tune to sing under those circumstances. Who is he supposed to go to war with?</p>
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		<title>By: Magne Gisvold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magne Gisvold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For fairness sake; I believe strongly that if the killings were actually performed by a foreign (i.e. islamist) person, the reactions would have been somewhat more complex/mixed. There were incidents of harassment of muslims several places in Norway until it was known that the perpetrator was actually an &quot;ethnic norwegian&quot; (as we call it). Still, that was a big wake up call in many respects (fear itself (often) being more dangerous than what you fear, &quot;common people&#039;s&quot; prejudice, etc.).  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For fairness sake; I believe strongly that if the killings were actually performed by a foreign (i.e. islamist) person, the reactions would have been somewhat more complex/mixed. There were incidents of harassment of muslims several places in Norway until it was known that the perpetrator was actually an &#8220;ethnic norwegian&#8221; (as we call it). Still, that was a big wake up call in many respects (fear itself (often) being more dangerous than what you fear, &#8220;common people&#8217;s&#8221; prejudice, etc.).  </p>
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		<title>By: toyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>toyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Easy, by turning your country into Norway.</description>
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		<title>By: TheMudshark</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheMudshark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things like this make me proud to be a Nor... no wait, shit, I´m not :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things like this make me proud to be a Nor&#8230; no wait, shit, I´m not :(</p>
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		<title>By: anharmyenone</title>
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		<dc:creator>anharmyenone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The speech we *should* have received in September 2011 would have been like the big speech in &quot;Meet John Doe&quot; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqpNI4232qg </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The speech we *should* have received in September 2011 would have been like the big speech in &#8220;Meet John Doe&#8221; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqpNI4232qg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqpNI4232qg</a> </p>
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		<title>By: mduncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>mduncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, as if the highest standard of living isn&#039;t already enough. Now you have to rub our noses in this. Srsly, how do I become a Norwegian? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, as if the highest standard of living isn&#8217;t already enough. Now you have to rub our noses in this. Srsly, how do I become a Norwegian? </p>
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		<title>By: Magne Gisvold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magne Gisvold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course you can wage war against internal forces. The Germans had their war against the left wing terrorists, and in Great Britain there was (is) the IRA vs. the Crown forces, etc.

Of course Norway can chose a hardline, doing massive surveillance and interrogations against everything and everyone rightwing &quot;extremish&quot;.

Would that lessen the risk for further violence? I&#039;m betting on &quot;nope&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course you can wage war against internal forces. The Germans had their war against the left wing terrorists, and in Great Britain there was (is) the IRA vs. the Crown forces, etc.</p>
<p>Of course Norway can chose a hardline, doing massive surveillance and interrogations against everything and everyone rightwing &#8220;extremish&#8221;.</p>
<p>Would that lessen the risk for further violence? I&#8217;m betting on &#8220;nope&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 11:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that comparing these two events directly has a lot of problems. For one, if Norway was to treat this as a military matter, who would they claim the war was against? The fanatics of the extreme right wing within their own country? It seems the main reason they are dealing with it differently then the war on terror is that the &quot;enemy&quot; isn&#039;t abroad, so they cannot base their responses on the us vs. them mentality or speak to the patriotism of the people.

Sadly I doubt they would be in the same mindset had this been an attack orchestrated by al-qaeda.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that comparing these two events directly has a lot of problems. For one, if Norway was to treat this as a military matter, who would they claim the war was against? The fanatics of the extreme right wing within their own country? It seems the main reason they are dealing with it differently then the war on terror is that the &#8220;enemy&#8221; isn&#8217;t abroad, so they cannot base their responses on the us vs. them mentality or speak to the patriotism of the people.</p>
<p>Sadly I doubt they would be in the same mindset had this been an attack orchestrated by al-qaeda.  </p>
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		<title>By: Mordicai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mordicai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 11:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to hear it; I don&#039;t really understand the oppositions logic.  Paranoia &amp; intolerance were the MOTIVES behind the attack; how would embracing them help protect you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to hear it; I don&#8217;t really understand the oppositions logic.  Paranoia &amp; intolerance were the MOTIVES behind the attack; how would embracing them help protect you?</p>
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