Comments on: Shareholders take Vodafone to account for network shutdown during Egyptian revolution http://boingboing.net/2011/07/30/shareholders-take-vodafone-to-account-for-network-shutdown-during-egyptian-revolution.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Wed, 22 May 2013 16:46:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: SedanChair http://boingboing.net/2011/07/30/shareholders-take-vodafone-to-account-for-network-shutdown-during-egyptian-revolution.html#comment-1177104 SedanChair Sun, 31 Jul 2011 15:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111565#comment-1177104 I'm sure that in future, cell service will be a sign of whether "the West" approves of your revolution. I’m sure that in future, cell service will be a sign of whether “the West” approves of your revolution.

]]> By: Cory Doctorow http://boingboing.net/2011/07/30/shareholders-take-vodafone-to-account-for-network-shutdown-during-egyptian-revolution.html#comment-1177101 Cory Doctorow Sun, 31 Jul 2011 15:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111565#comment-1177101 Presumptions of bad faith from people who don't RTFA are even more annoying, trust me. As it happens, AccessNow was there on behalf of several large institutional investors. Presumptions of bad faith from people who don’t RTFA are even more annoying, trust me.

As it happens, AccessNow was there on behalf of several large institutional investors.

]]> By: Mantari Damacy http://boingboing.net/2011/07/30/shareholders-take-vodafone-to-account-for-network-shutdown-during-egyptian-revolution.html#comment-1177097 Mantari Damacy Sun, 31 Jul 2011 14:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111565#comment-1177097 Shareholders: "...and ask that you consider adhering to the practices outlined in the action plan" Vodafone: "Okay! We considered it! We're going to keep on doing what we're doing. Glad we could help. Next!" Shareholders: “…and ask that you consider adhering to the practices outlined in the action plan”

Vodafone: “Okay! We considered it! We’re going to keep on doing what we’re doing. Glad we could help. Next!”

]]> By: IamInnocent http://boingboing.net/2011/07/30/shareholders-take-vodafone-to-account-for-network-shutdown-during-egyptian-revolution.html#comment-1177093 IamInnocent Sun, 31 Jul 2011 12:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111565#comment-1177093 Technically, the headline seems right since Access acted in accord with others. It still is not as informative as it could have been since Access acted first as a human right NGO and its being a shareholder, although interesting to notice, stands at the periphery of the subject matter. If we watch the webcast we can see how agreeable is the gentleman who delivers the response in the name of Vodafone. I find this always an eerie experience to see how much well raised those speakers are, taking into account that telcos, like any other "well-run business", would let anyone die if it paid them enough. Technically, the headline seems right since Access acted in accord with others. It still is not as informative as it could have been since Access acted first as a human right NGO and its being a shareholder, although interesting to notice, stands at the periphery of the subject matter.

If we watch the webcast we can see how agreeable is the gentleman who delivers the response in the name of Vodafone. I find this always an eerie experience to see how much well raised those speakers are, taking into account that telcos, like any other “well-run business”, would let anyone die if it paid them enough.

]]> By: Guido http://boingboing.net/2011/07/30/shareholders-take-vodafone-to-account-for-network-shutdown-during-egyptian-revolution.html#comment-1177092 Guido Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111565#comment-1177092 Lots of people, specially in developing countries, use prepaid service, so if they don't call, cannot run out of credit and buy more cards. How does that helps the company? Not everybody has a credit card. Lots of people, specially in developing countries, use prepaid service, so if they don’t call, cannot run out of credit and buy more cards. How does that helps the company?

Not everybody has a credit card.

]]> By: z4ch http://boingboing.net/2011/07/30/shareholders-take-vodafone-to-account-for-network-shutdown-during-egyptian-revolution.html#comment-1177082 z4ch Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:03:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111565#comment-1177082 Ugh... shudders at the thought of a world where every car on the road is a white BMW 1 series. Ugh… shudders at the thought of a world where every car on the road is a white BMW 1 series.

]]> By: betatron http://boingboing.net/2011/07/30/shareholders-take-vodafone-to-account-for-network-shutdown-during-egyptian-revolution.html#comment-1177078 betatron Sun, 31 Jul 2011 10:54:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111565#comment-1177078 let me try a rewrite: "You perfidious bastards betrayed us when we needed you the most.  DIAF so we can replace you with someone trustworty."  good luck with that. let me try a rewrite: “You perfidious bastards betrayed us when we needed you the most.  DIAF so we can replace you with someone trustworty.”  good luck with that.

]]> By: Andrew Wood http://boingboing.net/2011/07/30/shareholders-take-vodafone-to-account-for-network-shutdown-during-egyptian-revolution.html#comment-1177075 Andrew Wood Sun, 31 Jul 2011 10:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111565#comment-1177075 Maybe if they'd constructed a statement that people can understand without reading four times first, they might have had more impact. Maybe if they’d constructed a statement that people can understand without reading four times first, they might have had more impact.

]]> By: retepslluerb http://boingboing.net/2011/07/30/shareholders-take-vodafone-to-account-for-network-shutdown-during-egyptian-revolution.html#comment-1177066 retepslluerb Sun, 31 Jul 2011 08:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111565#comment-1177066 The headline is technically correct, yes. Like "Britons think the End of the World is near" would be, if I walk by Hyde Park and take notes. The headline is technically correct, yes. Like “Britons think the End of the World is near” would be, if I walk by Hyde Park and take notes.

]]> By: Gulliver http://boingboing.net/2011/07/30/shareholders-take-vodafone-to-account-for-network-shutdown-during-egyptian-revolution.html#comment-1177065 Gulliver Sun, 31 Jul 2011 08:13:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111565#comment-1177065 That's the point, I think. You just explained why the headline is <i>not</i> misleading. That’s the point, I think.

You just explained why the headline is not misleading.

]]> By: Gulliver http://boingboing.net/2011/07/30/shareholders-take-vodafone-to-account-for-network-shutdown-during-egyptian-revolution.html#comment-1177063 Gulliver Sun, 31 Jul 2011 08:11:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111565#comment-1177063 Customers: they can't pay their phone bill if they're dead, in prison or broke cause some dictator robbed them blind. Catch-22 that. Customers: they can’t pay their phone bill if they’re dead, in prison or broke cause some dictator robbed them blind. Catch-22 that.

]]> By: retepslluerb http://boingboing.net/2011/07/30/shareholders-take-vodafone-to-account-for-network-shutdown-during-egyptian-revolution.html#comment-1177064 retepslluerb Sun, 31 Jul 2011 08:11:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111565#comment-1177064 This fishing for eyeballs with misleading headlines gets really annoying.  About anyone can buy some stock and have the five minutes at the shareholder meeting. And if the higher-ups are polite, they even prevent to listen when the small shareholders speak. (Which can be quite interesting, by the way.) This fishing for eyeballs with misleading headlines gets really annoying. 

About anyone can buy some stock and have the five minutes at the shareholder meeting. And if the higher-ups are polite, they even prevent to listen when the small shareholders speak. (Which can be quite interesting, by the way.)

]]>