Comments on: Wisconsin Democratic voters targeted with Koch-funded absentee ballot notices advising them to vote 2 days after the recall election http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Tue, 18 Jun 2013 06:20:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Randall E. Winn http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1181680 Randall E. Winn Fri, 05 Aug 2011 17:16:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1181680 1. Get one of these flyers 2. Dust it for prints 3. Get the cops to identify who printed and distributed them NAME AND SHAME! NAME AND SHAME! NAME AND SHAME! 1. Get one of these flyers
2. Dust it for prints
3. Get the cops to identify who printed and distributed them
NAME AND SHAME! NAME AND SHAME! NAME AND SHAME!

]]> By: Don Grasser http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1181664 Don Grasser Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:54:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1181664 They need a new Governor in Illinois to replace that LaVoyabitch. They need a new Governor in Illinois to replace that LaVoyabitch.

]]> By: James http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1179756 James Wed, 03 Aug 2011 15:40:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1179756 Investigate!  Prosecute!  Imprison! Investigate!  Prosecute!  Imprison!

]]> By: novenator http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1179698 novenator Wed, 03 Aug 2011 14:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1179698 This is far from the first time this has happened too. Although the first mention of this is actually an article by The Onion in 2004: Republicans Urge Minorities To Get Out And Vote On Nov. 3 http://www.theonion.com/articles/republicans-urge-minorities-to-get-out-and-vote-on,1241/ copy cats started doing this for real that very same election: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12514-2004Oct30.html Then it came back in 2008: Phony Election Flier In Virginia Tells Democrats To Vote On Nov. 5 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/27/phony-election-flier-in-v_n_138382.html Anonymous Call Tells Pennsylvania Dems To Vote Wednesday http://goo.gl/Cl7d6 and kept going in 2010: L.A. Latinos Told to Vote on Nov. 3; Watchdogs Cite Trouble Nationally http://colorlines.com/archives/2010/11/los_angeles_latino_voters_told_to_vote_on_november_3.html GOP-Linked 'Latinos For Reform' Airs Nevada Ads Urging Hispanics Not To Vote (VIDEO) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/19/latinos-for-reform-vote-nevada_n_767991.html In Woodland Park, Colorado, a town north of Colorado Springs, someone had posted a sign saying that Democrats vote on Wednesday. Election protection notified officials, and the sign has now been taken down. http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-cohn/78853/some-students-are-having-trouble-voting This is far from the first time this has happened too. Although the first mention of this is actually an article by The Onion in 2004: Republicans Urge Minorities To Get Out And Vote On Nov. 3 http://www.theonion.com/articles/republicans-urge-minorities-to-get-out-and-vote-on,1241/
copy cats started doing this for real that very same election: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12514-2004Oct30.html

Then it came back in 2008:
Phony Election Flier In Virginia Tells Democrats To Vote On Nov. 5 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/27/phony-election-flier-in-v_n_138382.html

Anonymous Call Tells Pennsylvania Dems To Vote Wednesday http://goo.gl/Cl7d6

and kept going in 2010:
L.A. Latinos Told to Vote on Nov. 3; Watchdogs Cite Trouble Nationally http://colorlines.com/archives/2010/11/los_angeles_latino_voters_told_to_vote_on_november_3.html

GOP-Linked ‘Latinos For Reform’ Airs Nevada Ads Urging Hispanics Not To Vote (VIDEO) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/19/latinos-for-reform-vote-nevada_n_767991.html

In Woodland Park, Colorado, a town north of Colorado Springs, someone had posted a sign saying that Democrats vote on Wednesday. Election protection notified officials, and the sign has now been taken down. http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-cohn/78853/some-students-are-having-trouble-voting

]]> By: Lane Yarbrough http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1179569 Lane Yarbrough Wed, 03 Aug 2011 11:35:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1179569 This is the date that the request must be received.   Do you mean "post marked"? This is the date that the request must be received.   Do you mean “post marked”?

]]> By: Edward Atkinson http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1179476 Edward Atkinson Wed, 03 Aug 2011 05:16:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1179476 it was a clerical error. absolved. it was a clerical error. absolved.

]]> By: BackspinBubba http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1179428 BackspinBubba Wed, 03 Aug 2011 03:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1179428 "Oh, they all do it." is a pretty crappy take on an obvious bullshit ploy by Koch and his minions. And, it is obvious you haven't voted in a while if you think that kind of crap is the norm. “Oh, they all do it.” is a pretty crappy take on an obvious bullshit ploy by Koch and his minions. And, it is obvious you haven’t voted in a while if you think that kind of crap is the norm.

]]> By: John Foust http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1179388 John Foust Wed, 03 Aug 2011 02:15:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1179388 Apart from Wisconsin Family Action, it was also circulated from the Wisconsin Right to Life web site as well as another at Wisconsin Firearm Owners, Ranges, Clubs & Educators Inc.  So what do these groups have in common with AFP? Apart from Wisconsin Family Action, it was also circulated from the Wisconsin Right to Life web site as well as another at Wisconsin Firearm Owners, Ranges, Clubs & Educators Inc.  So what do these groups have in common with AFP?

]]> By: Philip Holdsworth http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1179380 Philip Holdsworth Wed, 03 Aug 2011 02:02:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1179380 A typo is 8, or 0 you know the keys beside 9, (and also single digits) not 11, not only two digits - but ALL THE WAY AT THE OTHER END OF THE KEYBOARD!!!    A typo is 8, or 0 you know the keys beside 9, (and also single digits) not 11, not only two digits – but ALL THE WAY AT THE OTHER END OF THE KEYBOARD!!! 
 

]]> By: Chris Boggs http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1179326 Chris Boggs Wed, 03 Aug 2011 00:50:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1179326 As suspicious as it may seem, at this point the only provable offense, if I am not mistaken,  is the offense of not proofreading their distibuted materials. It LOOKS like foul play but is not provable foul play. I am curious though, who actually distributed these fliers and what organization they represented? If it was the AFP then I would think it would be provable misconduct and worthy of some level of legal warning. After all, no one hands out free promotions for the other side undermining their own cause, so if that's the case, I think foul play is pretty clear, As suspicious as it may seem, at this point the only provable offense, if I am not mistaken,  is the offense of not proofreading their distibuted materials. It LOOKS like foul play but is not provable foul play.

I am curious though, who actually distributed these fliers and what organization they represented? If it was the AFP then I would think it would be provable misconduct and worthy of some level of legal warning. After all, no one hands out free promotions for the other side undermining their own cause, so if that’s the case, I think foul play is pretty clear,

]]> By: mattotodd http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1179303 mattotodd Wed, 03 Aug 2011 00:19:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1179303 If you look at the actual document, you'll see it says in big bold letters Official Application For Absentee Ballot,  but then in small writing at the bottom says it is not an offcial wisconsin application.  http://www.politico.com/static/PPM187_ballotapp.html Seems odd to me. If you look at the actual document, you’ll see it says in big bold letters Official Application For Absentee Ballot,  but then in small writing at the bottom says it is not an offcial wisconsin application.  http://www.politico.com/static/PPM187_ballotapp.html

Seems odd to me.

]]> By: pecoto http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1179268 pecoto Tue, 02 Aug 2011 23:47:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1179268 I much prefer it when a political party buses in homeless people, non-citizens and out of district people to vote, and when they pay people to vote for them (oh....they pay them in food and services, but a payment IS a payment, and illegal).  Oh, that's right, I agree with the policies of said political party....so that makes it okay, right?   I'm disgusted by all of these shenanigans, but even more disgusted by the fact that people conveniently forget that both sides take part in this craptacular chicanery.   I much prefer it when a political party buses in homeless people, non-citizens and out of district people to vote, and when they pay people to vote for them (oh….they pay them in food and services, but a payment IS a payment, and illegal).  Oh, that’s right, I agree with the policies of said political party….so that makes it okay, right?  

I’m disgusted by all of these shenanigans, but even more disgusted by the fact that people conveniently forget that both sides take part in this craptacular chicanery.  

]]> By: Arthur Kohl-Riggs http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1179259 Arthur Kohl-Riggs Tue, 02 Aug 2011 23:39:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1179259 IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE  ABSENTEE BALLOT APPLICATION PROCESSING CENTER IS A PO BOX OWNED BY AFP IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE 

ABSENTEE BALLOT APPLICATION PROCESSING CENTER IS A PO BOX OWNED BY AFP

]]> By: mutsbug http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1179240 mutsbug Tue, 02 Aug 2011 23:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1179240 the brilliant thing about this one tho is that they can just say they misprinted the date the brilliant thing about this one tho is that they can just say they misprinted the date

]]> By: Brandon Abell http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1179186 Brandon Abell Tue, 02 Aug 2011 22:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1179186 I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure there have been several (mostly recent, probably) cases that have held that a citizen can be considered an enemy.  There are ways to make war that are not directly violent.  Aiding those acts of war would be treason, in my view.  I’m not a lawyer, but I’m pretty sure there have been several (mostly recent, probably) cases that have held that a citizen can be considered an enemy.  There are ways to make war that are not directly violent.  Aiding those acts of war would be treason, in my view. 

]]> By: Bennessy http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1179171 Bennessy Tue, 02 Aug 2011 22:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1179171 Those evil fuchs! Those evil fuchs!

]]> By: Andrew Whitacre http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1179128 Andrew Whitacre Tue, 02 Aug 2011 22:05:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1179128 Nice. Really good context and info that I hope can be added to the original post. Thanks. Nice. Really good context and info that I hope can be added to the original post. Thanks.

]]> By: jboffer http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1179108 jboffer Tue, 02 Aug 2011 21:54:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1179108 Wrong. It's not a valid form. Cross posting this from someone else's comment on another site:  This is worse than just a late return date. Actually, the mailings are intended to look like absentee ballot request forms. The AFP mailer (http://www.politico.com/static/PPM187_ballotapp.html ) is not the official form (http://gab.wi.gov/sites/default/files/gab_forms/4/gab_121_application_for_absentee_ballot_revised_06_10125.pdf ) required to get an absentee ballot. If you read the mailer, you can actually see that it states that it is not the form used by the GAB (4th page of the linked document.) This is after it incorrectly states that it is an official document in large letters on the bottom of the 3rd page. The latest an absentee ballot request can be submitted in Wisconsin via mailing is the Thursday before the election. This is the date that the request must be received. As the election is next Tuesday, that makes the due date for any ballot requests this Thursday. As these districts are far away from Madison (Northwest & Green Bay areas, respectively) it would take more than 2+ days for them to get to Madison, and 2+ days for them to get back. As such, it would be impossible for these notices to get filed in accordance with the law, even if they were legal. Source on Absentee Voting Information: http://gab.wi.gov/elections-voting/voters/absentee It also appears that the mailing address (PO Box 1327 • Madison WI 53701-1327) on these envelopes goes to a group calling itself Wisconsin Family Action (http://www.wifamilyaction.org/files/trya.campaigntoolbox.org/downloads/WFAPAC_PR_070711.pdf ). Wisconsin Family Action is an anti-gay conservative group which has attempted to break up the state's domestic partnership registry and prevent other advances in LGBT rights in Wisconsin over the last several years. They are not a recognized part of the Wisconsin government and would not be legally able to hand out absentee ballots, even if it were possible timeline-wise for them to do so. Wrong. It’s not a valid form. Cross posting this from someone else’s comment on another site: 

This is worse than just a late return date.
Actually, the mailings are intended to look like absentee ballot request forms. The AFP mailer (http://www.politico.com/static/PPM187_ballotapp.html ) is not the official form (http://gab.wi.gov/sites/default/files/gab_forms/4/gab_121_application_for_absentee_ballot_revised_06_10125.pdf ) required to get an absentee ballot. If you read the mailer, you can actually see that it states that it is not the form used by the GAB (4th page of the linked document.) This is after it incorrectly states that it is an official document in large letters on the bottom of the 3rd page.
The latest an absentee ballot request can be submitted in Wisconsin via mailing is the Thursday before the election. This is the date that the request must be received. As the election is next Tuesday, that makes the due date for any ballot requests this Thursday. As these districts are far away from Madison (Northwest & Green Bay areas, respectively) it would take more than 2+ days for them to get to Madison, and 2+ days for them to get back. As such, it would be impossible for these notices to get filed in accordance with the law, even if they were legal.
Source on Absentee Voting Information:
http://gab.wi.gov/elections-voting/voters/absentee

It also appears that the mailing address (PO Box 1327 • Madison WI 53701-1327) on these envelopes goes to a group calling itself Wisconsin Family Action (http://www.wifamilyaction.org/files/trya.campaigntoolbox.org/downloads/WFAPAC_PR_070711.pdf ). Wisconsin Family Action is an anti-gay conservative group which has attempted to break up the state’s domestic partnership registry and prevent other advances in LGBT rights in Wisconsin over the last several years. They are not a recognized part of the Wisconsin government and would not be legally able to hand out absentee ballots, even if it were possible timeline-wise for them to do so.

]]> By: Steve McGowan http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1179069 Steve McGowan Tue, 02 Aug 2011 21:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1179069 Check your facts - the racist elements of your story are false.  From the Karl Rove wiki... "In the fall of 1970, Rove used a false identity to enter the campaign office of Democrat Alan J. Dixon, who was running for Treasurer of Illinois. He stole 1000 sheets of paper with campaign letterhead, printed fake campaign rally fliers promising "free beer, free food, girls and a good time for nothing", and distributed them at rock concerts and homeless shelters, with the effect of disrupting Dixon's rally." Check your facts – the racist elements of your story are false.  From the Karl Rove wiki…
“In the fall of 1970, Rove used a false identity to enter the campaign office of Democrat Alan J. Dixon, who was running for Treasurer of Illinois.
He stole 1000 sheets of paper with campaign letterhead, printed fake
campaign rally fliers promising “free beer, free food, girls and a good
time for nothing”, and distributed them at rock concerts and homeless shelters, with the effect of disrupting Dixon’s rally.”

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1179067 Antinous / Moderator Tue, 02 Aug 2011 21:32:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1179067 Sedition? Sedition?

]]> By: Scott Baez http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1179049 Scott Baez Tue, 02 Aug 2011 21:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1179049 It is.  It is very, very illegal. It is.  It is very, very illegal.

]]> By: Guest http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1179023 Guest Tue, 02 Aug 2011 21:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1179023 Yeah, right? TREASON! And I await assault charges and jail time for Prosser for throttling that other judge! Grrr, that POS! /ranty Yeah, right? TREASON!

And I await assault charges and jail time for Prosser for throttling that other judge! Grrr, that POS! /ranty

]]> By: Tony http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1179010 Tony Tue, 02 Aug 2011 20:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1179010 In Maryland they're getting ready to send our old Republican Governors chief off staff to jail for robocalls with the same incorrect information. Maybe the Koch bro.'s will share a cell. Ironic to me that these two seuccessful men feel the need to cheat in order to win. They must be proud to be criminal. Makes you wonder who else they're screwing over. In Maryland they’re getting ready to send our old Republican Governors chief off staff to jail for robocalls with the same incorrect information. Maybe the Koch bro.’s will share a cell. Ironic to me that these two seuccessful men feel the need to cheat in order to win. They must be proud to be criminal. Makes you wonder who else they’re screwing over.

]]> By: andy http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1179004 andy Tue, 02 Aug 2011 20:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1179004 This is treasonous. When are we gonna start hanging people for this?  If your politics are so evil you have to resort to this crap, well, then- you don't deserve to play. This is treasonous. When are we gonna start hanging people for this?  If your politics are so evil you have to resort to this crap, well, then- you don’t deserve to play.

]]> By: Hans http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1178955 Hans Tue, 02 Aug 2011 20:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1178955 Treason has a constitutionally limited definition, specifically "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort."  This was intentional, since there is a great danger in being able to arrest your political opponents on the charge of treason, whenever they were acting (in your view) in a manner contrary to the state.   Treason has a constitutionally limited definition, specifically “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”  This was intentional, since there is a great danger in being able to arrest your political opponents on the charge of treason, whenever they were acting (in your view) in a manner contrary to the state.  

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1178905 Antinous / Moderator Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:58:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1178905 Treason? Treason?

]]> By: River Charbonneau http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1178846 River Charbonneau Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:19:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1178846 Democrats: Soft on Crime: Republican crime. Democrats: Soft on Crime: Republican crime.

]]> By: Uncle Geo http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1178842 Uncle Geo Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1178842 The reason they get away with lying and fooling people is that voters do nothing about it. Voters either believe the GOP propaganda and believe it is noble, even patriotic to lie in service of your principles or they are voters who simply don't bother to really know anything about their governance. Voters should be roundly rejecting any party that hates democracy so much that they trick voters to win -instead voters cower, fearful that gay-married atheists will take their guns away. It would be funny if it were not so tragic. The equivocating in the timid media makes it seem that "all" parties do this crap when the GOP has made lies and misdirection standard practice. I fear for the viability of American democracy when people are so easily fooled by such obvious charlatans. The reason they get away with lying and fooling people is that voters do nothing about it. Voters either believe the GOP propaganda and believe it is noble, even patriotic to lie in service of your principles or they are voters who simply don’t bother to really know anything about their governance. Voters should be roundly rejecting any party that hates democracy so much that they trick voters to win -instead voters cower, fearful that gay-married atheists will take their guns away. It would be funny if it were not so tragic.

The equivocating in the timid media makes it seem that “all” parties do this crap when the GOP has made lies and misdirection standard practice. I fear for the viability of American democracy when people are so easily fooled by such obvious charlatans.

]]> By: Cookie Monsta http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1178780 Cookie Monsta Tue, 02 Aug 2011 18:40:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1178780 Is this where they sort the ballots so they can 'find' a few thousand votes for them after the election, just in case they need a recount..? Is this where they sort the ballots so they can ‘find’ a few thousand votes for them after the election, just in case they need a recount..?

]]> By: Cookie Monsta http://boingboing.net/2011/08/02/wisconsin-democratic-voters-targeted-with-koch-funded-absentee-ballot-notices-advising-them-to-vote-2-days-after-the-recall-election.html#comment-1178776 Cookie Monsta Tue, 02 Aug 2011 18:37:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=111798#comment-1178776 The problem with election law is that by the time the investigation and court proceedings happen, the 'elected' official is running for RE election.  Stealing an election does not matter when the consequences are so far in the future AND when a subordinate can take the fall or just obstruct, Scooter Libby style. The problem with election law is that by the time the investigation and court proceedings happen, the ‘elected’ official is running for RE election.  Stealing an election does not matter when the consequences are so far in the future AND when a subordinate can take the fall or just obstruct, Scooter Libby style.

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