Comments on: Alan Turing's hand-drawn Monopoly Board

By: ||||| Alaska Jack

||||| Alaska Jack — Tue, 09 Aug 2011 01:27:00 +0000

Oh, Boing Boing, will you never cease to amuse and disgust me?

Just a thought — perhaps Churchill’s “cold war paranoia” was due to the fact that British counter-intelligence and foreign affairs were RIDDLED WITH SOVIET SPIES?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Five

Jeesh.

By: Andrew Singleton

Andrew Singleton — Mon, 08 Aug 2011 20:11:00 +0000

Always good when people that are part of what the post is about come in to comment.

Thank you Sir for sharing.

By: nosehat

nosehat — Mon, 08 Aug 2011 00:25:00 +0000

Thanks so much for dropping in, and for the back story!

(On a side note to Boing Boing staff: I have just become a big fan of the new Boing Boing comment system that lets people post comments from other logins!)

By: William Newman

William Newman — Sun, 07 Aug 2011 22:42:00 +0000

May I confess to being the perpetrator of said ‘board’, which I drew on a sheet of paper back in the 1950s when I was in my early teens and lacked the money to buy a proper set. My brother and I played on it, and when Alan asked if he could join us in a game we played a threesome (Alan lost). Later the board fell into disuse and I lost track of it about 50 years ago, but it recently turned up (together with the rules), see http://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/news/docview.rhtm/644565. The Roman numerals indicated property prices. I forget why I added the diagonal.

By: petershultz

petershultz — Sun, 07 Aug 2011 15:41:00 +0000

Monopoly, like a lot of games, was originally distributed as a set of rules. I’m sure Turing et al had the rules and look up tables for property values, they just lacked a board.

By: phreakincool

phreakincool — Sun, 07 Aug 2011 15:23:00 +0000

Why not?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8q54tifCKshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mjouaLil0c&feature=related

By: Andrew Singleton

Andrew Singleton — Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:45:00 +0000

Dagnabbit. Now I wanna come up with my own variation based on the crossboard concept (maybe add a second cross from free parking. Hard to say though.

By: GyroMagician

GyroMagician — Sun, 07 Aug 2011 13:03:00 +0000

Maybe AT liked the challenge of trying to make Monopoly interesting? That would certainly take a genius.

By: Roy Trumbull

Roy Trumbull — Sun, 07 Aug 2011 02:52:00 +0000

In the early computer used to keep up with Enigma, there were acoustic delay lines. Purchasing wrote out a detailed spec for bid on the water alcohol mix used. Turing used gin right out of the bottle.

By: LikesTurtles

LikesTurtles — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 19:40:00 +0000

Monopoly isn’t a bad game if you don’t make the mistake of placing all fines, fees, etc in Free Parking. We play with a $250 bonus for landing on the space but that’s it. When you get thousands of dollars each time you land on it, the game goes on and on becoming a contest of who can land on Free Parking the most.

The crossboard properties is an interesting addition. Think I’ve seen that once before in an old varient of Monopoly so perhaps Mr. Turing was using the design he saw before.

By: Tommy Timefishblue

Tommy Timefishblue — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 19:17:00 +0000

You wouldn’t draw a car.

By: penguinchris

penguinchris — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 17:56:00 +0000

Agreed – though I haven’t played in ages and I don’t think I’ve ever played a truly great game of monopoly, the potential is huge.

The problem is when people don’t realize you can be creative with the rules. For the game to be fun you have to act like a real-life real estate monopolist – creative, ruthless, and without scruples. And, of course, people don’t take kindly to being swindled, even just in a game. But with a group of players who are all on the same page, as I said it has huge potential. Same as Risk (my preference) and other complicated board games.

By: davegroff

davegroff — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 15:41:00 +0000

I’d love to know how they used the roman numerals on the board. Some kind of math meta-game?

By: Tom Ward

Tom Ward — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 14:53:00 +0000

Of the ones I can pull out there’s:

King’s St, Newnham Rd, St John’s St, Mill Lane, Castle St, Hills Rd, Silver St, Barton Rd, Trinity Street, Bene’t Street, Garret Hostel Lane, Northampton St, Market St, Corn Exchange St, Station, King’s Parade, Senate House Passage, Trumptington St, Queen’s Road, Grange Rd, Bridge St, Jesus Lane.

Got to be Cambridge!

By: Guest

Guest — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 14:26:00 +0000

Alan Turing is my personal hero. Cryptonomicon is one, if not the, favorite books of mine. I have spent hours in the past enjoying the game of Monopoly. This post is my Trifecta.

By: Cathlene Morse Brady

Cathlene Morse Brady — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 13:39:00 +0000

I agree. That’s why I always cheat when I play Monopoly. I also try to steal properties when people go to the bathroom and later, I consider it a victory if I can charge them rent on their own property. Otherwise I’m a pretty nice person.

By: zdislaw

zdislaw — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 11:59:00 +0000

“Today, though, I want to talk about the pop-cultural root of all evil and aggression, which is not Scattergories, not Grand Theft Auto, not the music of The Screwed Up Click. It is the insidious, grudge-fueling, wrath-provoking waste of four hours that is the Parker Brothers classic Monopoly. The evil is right there in the title! Would you play a game called Anti-Trust? In which your goal was to drive up the price of gas and force everyone to take public transit? I say ye nay. We as a people have agreed for some insane reason to sit down with our families and try to drive them out of their homes. The republic is built on the sacred bond between citizen and property, and this game is about taking it away! How un-American is that? I mean, you might as well drive that little pewter car over the little pewter dog!”—Trey Graham, NPR Pop Culture Happy Hour

By: Ashley Yakeley

Ashley Yakeley — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 08:51:00 +0000

Garret Hostel Lane up on the right. It can’t be anywhere else.

By: Ashley Yakeley

Ashley Yakeley — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 08:48:00 +0000

Castle Street? Mill Lane? King Street?

Sounds like Cambridge to me.

By: Mark Hope

Mark Hope — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 08:44:00 +0000

Anyone checked the names of the properties? They are all different from the standard UK game that I started playing in the ’60s, eg Mayfair is called Mills Rd, Whitechapel is called King Street. And there are more properties down each side than the normal game…

By: plingboot

plingboot — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 07:56:00 +0000

Why are you assuming this is the only game they played? He may well have created other boards that may have been lost or just not exhibited. More likely they probably had actual chess and backgammon boards as well as packs of cards.

By: nosehat

nosehat — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 07:01:00 +0000

Of all the games someone would choose recreate from scratch, Monopoly wouldn’t be my first guess. It depends on way too much arbitrary information–all those tables of different amounts of rent for different properties with different numbers of houses. Recreating all of that, instead of something like a chess or backgammon or go board, just seems … odd. But then again, I’m not Alan Turing.

By: Miss Demeanor

Miss Demeanor — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 05:33:00 +0000

on the back side is his sketch of angry birds

By: Michael Smith

Michael Smith — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 05:26:00 +0000

What’s up with the diagonal bisection!?

Its marked FREE DECISION so I suppose if you land on Go, you get a choice which way you want to go. I wish I could get close enough to read all the words.

This is great. I wonder if Neal Stephenson knew about it when he wrote Cryptonomicon. Games are so important to crypto, as he noted.

By: Bernhard Kubicek

Bernhard Kubicek — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 05:04:00 +0000

The bisection is only for entities who passed the Turing test !

By: Blaine

Blaine — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 04:22:00 +0000

What’s up with the diagonal bisection!?

By: amanicdroid

amanicdroid — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 04:21:00 +0000

The silver story is also in Janna Levin’s ”A Madman Dreams of Turing Machines”. Turing put the silver bars in a baby carriage and took it into nearby woods. Neighbors called the police thinking he had committed infanticide. The book is fiction based on fact so I’m not sure which details are accurate.