Comments on: Dasparkhotel is a series of tubes http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Mon, 20 May 2013 04:03:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: cdh1971 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183815 cdh1971 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 20:13:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183815 In regards to costs, these pipes, which looks brand-new to me, are not cheap and transporting them isn't either. If you have the means to buy brand-new pipe and transport it, especially in this sort of terrain, I don't think a bit low-profile insulation is going to matter much as a percentage of the final cost.  It looks like the point of these short-duration-rental-tubes is along the lines of a hip place to camp - not some sort of low-cost housing, although I know this was discussed. In regards to costs, these pipes, which looks brand-new to me, are not cheap and transporting them isn’t either. If you have the means to buy brand-new pipe and transport it, especially in this sort of terrain, I don’t think a bit low-profile insulation is going to matter much as a percentage of the final cost. 

It looks like the point of these short-duration-rental-tubes is along the lines of a hip place to camp – not some sort of low-cost housing, although I know this was discussed.

]]> By: snowmentality http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183817 snowmentality Tue, 09 Aug 2011 20:13:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183817 That's what we can do with the <a href="http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/07/31/1380277/old-pipes-have-lain-around-for.html" rel="nofollow">series of tubes that has literally been abandoned on an empty roadside lot here</a>! The land and the pipes have a legal owner, so the city can't have them removed. The owner isn't doing anything with either land or pipes. Homeless people are already camping in them -- maybe we should fix them up to actually be decent shelter. My elementary school also had a series of concrete tubes of different sizes as its main playground equipment. You couldn't do much with the smallest ones, but the medium and large ones (not nearly so large as these -- the largest ones could fit a first-grader inside) made good forts and climbing/vaulting equipment. That’s what we can do with the series of tubes that has literally been abandoned on an empty roadside lot here! The land and the pipes have a legal owner, so the city can’t have them removed. The owner isn’t doing anything with either land or pipes. Homeless people are already camping in them — maybe we should fix them up to actually be decent shelter.

My elementary school also had a series of concrete tubes of different sizes as its main playground equipment. You couldn’t do much with the smallest ones, but the medium and large ones (not nearly so large as these — the largest ones could fit a first-grader inside) made good forts and climbing/vaulting equipment.

]]> By: E T http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183545 E T Tue, 09 Aug 2011 15:18:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183545 Hope they provide an emergency exit. Hope they provide an emergency exit.

]]> By: digi_owl http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183405 digi_owl Tue, 09 Aug 2011 08:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183405 Funny enough, a Dutch company seems to have specialized in turning shipping containers into housing. Funny enough, a Dutch company seems to have specialized in turning shipping containers into housing.

]]> By: Trent Baker http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183381 Trent Baker Tue, 09 Aug 2011 06:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183381 Sure, maybe. But then your costs are gonna go up and the actual room size decreases. Next you are gonna say they should use some space age insulation. See costs. Sure, maybe. But then your costs are gonna go up and the actual room size decreases. Next you are gonna say they should use some space age insulation. See costs.

]]> By: andreas strauss http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183372 andreas strauss Tue, 09 Aug 2011 05:56:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183372 like when people comment and dont even have serious look at what the thing is about !!! like when people comment and dont even have serious look at what the thing is about !!!

]]> By: andreas strauss http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183371 andreas strauss Tue, 09 Aug 2011 05:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183371 9.5 tonns !!! noone will roll you anywhere !!! 9.5 tonns !!! noone will roll you anywhere !!!

]]> By: Stephen Hemingway http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183357 Stephen Hemingway Tue, 09 Aug 2011 05:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183357 Just a little clarification on the "sewer" nature of the pipe - what you're seeing in the picture is "RCP" or reinforced concrete pipe. At least in the United States, it is only ever used for rain water runoff in storm sewers (as opposed to sanitary sewers). Concrete wouldn't be particularly well suited to sanitary usage due to the caustic gases associated with the slurry of human excrement that is raw sewage. In any case, I've seen more than my fair share of RCP, and I'm willing to bet that pipe was fresh from the factory, not recycled. It's in way too good of condition to have been previously buried. That being said, this is very cool. And to comment on the insulation factor discussed above, I can only say from experience that RCP tends to remain relatively cool internally, even in the Florida summer sun. Just a little clarification on the “sewer” nature of the pipe – what you’re seeing in the picture is “RCP” or reinforced concrete pipe. At least in the United States, it is only ever used for rain water runoff in storm sewers (as opposed to sanitary sewers). Concrete wouldn’t be particularly well suited to sanitary usage due to the caustic gases associated with the slurry of human excrement that is raw sewage. In any case, I’ve seen more than my fair share of RCP, and I’m willing to bet that pipe was fresh from the factory, not recycled. It’s in way too good of condition to have been previously buried. That being said, this is very cool. And to comment on the insulation factor discussed above, I can only say from experience that RCP tends to remain relatively cool internally, even in the Florida summer sun.

]]> By: Blaze Curry http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183289 Blaze Curry Tue, 09 Aug 2011 03:25:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183289 That's weird...last time I checked concrete that had been mixed properly had a massive temperature resistance level, almost approaching cheap ceramic. That means it changes temperature very slowly, IE why concrete stays hot to the touch long after the sun has set and cool long after the sun has risen. That’s weird…last time I checked concrete that had been mixed properly had a massive temperature resistance level, almost approaching cheap ceramic.
That means it changes temperature very slowly, IE why concrete stays hot to the touch long after the sun has set and cool long after the sun has risen.

]]> By: cdh1971 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183243 cdh1971 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 01:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183243 Forgot to say...air circulation is easy - it just depends on how the ends of the pipes are capped. Forgot to say…air circulation is easy – it just depends on how the ends of the pipes are capped.

]]> By: cdh1971 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183241 cdh1971 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 01:41:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183241 Perhaps in the form shown this is impractical for more than camping. But with using hardware store concrete sealer on the interior and/or exterior, and some sort of lightweight foam insulation - can even be recycled - this might make something more long-term. Alternatively, maybe there is some sort of paint-like coating that could replace my idea of the foam insulation and concrete sealer. All depends on climate of course. Maybe under a tree in some climates? Cheers! Perhaps in the form shown this is impractical for more than camping. But with using hardware store concrete sealer on the interior and/or exterior, and some sort of lightweight foam insulation – can even be recycled – this might make something more long-term. Alternatively, maybe there is some sort of paint-like coating that could replace my idea of the foam insulation and concrete sealer. All depends on climate of course. Maybe under a tree in some climates? Cheers!

]]> By: fnc http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183240 fnc Tue, 09 Aug 2011 01:40:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183240 I'm intrigued, but climate control's probably going to be a bitch in there. It would still be better than living in a not-yet-repurposed sewer pipe I guess. I’m intrigued, but climate control’s probably going to be a bitch in there. It would still be better than living in a not-yet-repurposed sewer pipe I guess.

]]> By: AviSolomon http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183227 AviSolomon Tue, 09 Aug 2011 01:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183227 Makes for poignant contrast with whole families crammed into these in 70s Bombay (I would wander into them as a kid): http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_fC40g5OrxXI/TGUxWL1EmSI/AAAAAAAAAdo/wUQJACXsqqk/s320/25india1.jpg Makes for poignant contrast with whole families crammed into these in 70s Bombay (I would wander into them as a kid):
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_fC40g5OrxXI/TGUxWL1EmSI/AAAAAAAAAdo/wUQJACXsqqk/s320/25india1.jpg

]]> By: Trent Baker http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183224 Trent Baker Tue, 09 Aug 2011 01:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183224 No, really it is impractical, because it would be very cold in the winter and very hot in the summer. Concrete is not an insulator. In fact you probably really would be better off sleeping under a bridge, because then at least you would have a bit of air circulation. No, really it is impractical, because it would be very cold in the winter and very hot in the summer. Concrete is not an insulator. In fact you probably really would be better off sleeping under a bridge, because then at least you would have a bit of air circulation.

]]> By: Spriggan_Prime http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183211 Spriggan_Prime Tue, 09 Aug 2011 01:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183211 That's exactly what I thought when I saw these! That’s exactly what I thought when I saw these!

]]> By: afims http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183187 afims Tue, 09 Aug 2011 00:16:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183187 On a similar line, I remember hearing about something like that(although much more expensive) - on TV a while back. It consists connectible living chambers made of fiberglass that are designed to be placed underground and have flexible connection stairs and hallways. Here's the site http://www.bomb-shelter.net/.  Apparently, (from what I remember from the show) they have a lot of clients in the Washington D.C. area, for some mysterious reason. :) On a similar line, I remember hearing about something like that(although much more expensive) – on TV a while back. It consists connectible living chambers made of fiberglass that are designed to be placed underground and have flexible connection stairs and hallways. Here’s the site http://www.bomb-shelter.net/. 

Apparently, (from what I remember from the show) they have a lot of clients in the Washington D.C. area, for some mysterious reason. :)

]]> By: willyboy http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183129 willyboy Mon, 08 Aug 2011 22:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183129 What would make these even better would be lambo(scissor) doors.... What would make these even better would be lambo(scissor) doors….

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183097 Antinous / Moderator Mon, 08 Aug 2011 21:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183097 It's been done in the last few decades as well, for the urban homeless. It’s been done in the last few decades as well, for the urban homeless.

]]> By: elix http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183089 elix Mon, 08 Aug 2011 21:44:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183089 That is a very interesting chunk of history. I had no idea. Thanks for making my day more interesting, Antinous. :D That is a very interesting chunk of history. I had no idea. Thanks for making my day more interesting, Antinous. :D

]]> By: ChicagoD http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183090 ChicagoD Mon, 08 Aug 2011 21:44:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183090 Do shipping containers repurposed to housing count? Because the shipping container is a U.S. innovation. Do shipping containers repurposed to housing count? Because the shipping container is a U.S. innovation.

]]> By: Alan http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183077 Alan Mon, 08 Aug 2011 21:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183077 Repurpsosed sewage drains, huh?  If only these walls could talk! Repurpsosed sewage drains, huh?  If only these walls could talk!

]]> By: Stephen M http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183061 Stephen M Mon, 08 Aug 2011 21:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183061  I like the idea, wondering how cold and damp it is in reality though.  I like the idea, wondering how cold and damp it is in reality though.

]]> By: Andrew Singleton http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183062 Andrew Singleton Mon, 08 Aug 2011 21:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183062 Holy rap. Didn't know that. Great historical find. Dankee. Holy rap. Didn’t know that. Great historical find. Dankee.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183060 Antinous / Moderator Mon, 08 Aug 2011 21:18:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183060 <blockquote>Thousands of unemployed workers and their families lived in makeshift encampments throughout California in the 1930s. One such village was near downtown Oakland where out-of-work residents lived in huge concrete sewer pipes being stored above ground. Each six-foot section of concrete pipe became a "homeless shelter" for one of the nearly two hundred unemployed who lived there. Residents covered the ends of their pipes with burlap or cardboard, and survived on mulligan stew made from discarded vegetables scavenged from nearby grocery wholesalers. They called their village "Miseryville," but the press dubbed it "Pipe City."</blockquote> http://www.californiahistoricalsociety.org/timeline/chapter9/003.html

Thousands of unemployed workers and their families lived in makeshift
encampments throughout California in the 1930s. One such village was
near downtown Oakland where out-of-work residents lived in huge concrete
sewer pipes being stored above ground. Each six-foot section of
concrete pipe became a “homeless shelter” for one of the nearly two
hundred unemployed who lived there. Residents covered the ends of their
pipes with burlap or cardboard, and survived on mulligan stew made from
discarded vegetables scavenged from nearby grocery wholesalers. They
called their village “Miseryville,” but the press dubbed it “Pipe City.”

http://www.californiahistoricalsociety.org/timeline/chapter9/003.html

]]> By: Andrew Singleton http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183057 Andrew Singleton Mon, 08 Aug 2011 21:13:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183057 *rereads* Pay as you please? Interesting. Given it's low accommodation probably low on maintenance I could see that working. However here I'd say you'd have health inspectors all over you if you tried it. I'd still stay there, at least once. Eh. Who's up for repurposing a bloc of storage units as housing? Sure Neil Stephenson thought of it first but has it been done? *rereads* Pay as you please?

Interesting. Given it’s low accommodation probably low on maintenance I could see that working. However here I’d say you’d have health inspectors all over you if you tried it.

I’d still stay there, at least once.

Eh. Who’s up for repurposing a bloc of storage units as housing?
Sure Neil Stephenson thought of it first but has it been done?

]]> By: Blaze Curry http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183055 Blaze Curry Mon, 08 Aug 2011 21:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183055 Wow, I SO want one of those now. Wow, I SO want one of those now.

]]> By: elix http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183053 elix Mon, 08 Aug 2011 21:10:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183053 That's what I noticed immediately. Bring your gumboots if you're in a season with even a little bit of rain. That being said, I'd still stay there. Looks like a cozy little place for backpacking and the like. That’s what I noticed immediately. Bring your gumboots if you’re in a season with even a little bit of rain.

That being said, I’d still stay there. Looks like a cozy little place for backpacking and the like.

]]> By: Andrew Singleton http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183049 Andrew Singleton Mon, 08 Aug 2011 21:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183049 Alright. Let's see somebody stateside do better on the creativity department. Because the gauntlet just got thrown down. Alright. Let’s see somebody stateside do better on the creativity department.

Because the gauntlet just got thrown down.

]]> By: Little John http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183046 Little John Mon, 08 Aug 2011 21:02:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183046 No translation needed if you click on the <a href="http://www.dasparkhotel.net/index.php?lang=EN" rel="nofollow">link to the English version</a>. Spolier: One of these (Bernepark) is in Germany, and the one shown (Ottensheim) is in Austria. No translation needed if you click on the link to the English version.

Spolier: One of these (Bernepark) is in Germany, and the one shown (Ottensheim) is in Austria.

]]> By: Mark J Thompson http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/dasparkhotel-is-a-series-of-tubes.html#comment-1183044 Mark J Thompson Mon, 08 Aug 2011 20:59:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=112474#comment-1183044 @facebook-100002601661770:disqus - you should check out this book that a friend of mine made. http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/921217 @facebook-100002601661770:disqus - you should check out this book that a friend of mine made. http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/921217

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