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		<title>By: adamnvillani</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/geographically-accurate-tube-map.html#comment-1183301</link>
		<dc:creator>adamnvillani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 03:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This looks similar to the map I used for the Paris Metro when I visited there in November of last year. I spent 10 nights in Paris and that one map served me well for about 95% of my travel needs; it was an excellent blend of diagram and map.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks similar to the map I used for the Paris Metro when I visited there in November of last year. I spent 10 nights in Paris and that one map served me well for about 95% of my travel needs; it was an excellent blend of diagram and map.</p>
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		<title>By: fontastique</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/geographically-accurate-tube-map.html#comment-1183152</link>
		<dc:creator>fontastique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 22:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>true :-)  I had originally read an article in Le Monde about this study, because recently Paris has changed its Metro map to be more geographically correct. 
So, I googled a british article to accompany my post. I guess the Dailymail a poor choice.

Read some of his studies here:
http://wagner.nyu.edu/guo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>true :-)  I had originally read an article in Le Monde about this study, because recently Paris has changed its Metro map to be more geographically correct. <br />
So, I googled a british article to accompany my post. I guess the Dailymail a poor choice.</p>
<p>Read some of his studies here:<br />
<a href="http://wagner.nyu.edu/guo" rel="nofollow">http://wagner.nyu.edu/guo</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jason Hall</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/geographically-accurate-tube-map.html#comment-1183085</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 21:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it. An abstraction of an abstraction.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it. An abstraction of an abstraction.  </p>
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		<title>By: Thorzdad</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/geographically-accurate-tube-map.html#comment-1183054</link>
		<dc:creator>Thorzdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 21:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like this attempt at making the original a bit more accurate, while preserving the feel. It&#039;s certainly a hell of a lot better than that horrific psychedelic checkerboard creation a couple of posts up the page. That thing&#039;s illegible.

Still, you really can&#039;t go wrong with the original.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like this attempt at making the original a bit more accurate, while preserving the feel. It&#8217;s certainly a hell of a lot better than that horrific psychedelic checkerboard creation a couple of posts up the page. That thing&#8217;s illegible.</p>
<p>Still, you really can&#8217;t go wrong with the original.</p>
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		<title>By: Jayarava</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/geographically-accurate-tube-map.html#comment-1183034</link>
		<dc:creator>Jayarava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 20:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. But you quoting the Daily Mail! 70% of Daily Mail readers have never used public transport in their lives! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. But you quoting the Daily Mail! 70% of Daily Mail readers have never used public transport in their lives! </p>
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		<title>By: Jayarava</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/geographically-accurate-tube-map.html#comment-1183033</link>
		<dc:creator>Jayarava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 20:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are all a bit superfluous give that Google maps highlights the tube routes now. 
http://is.gd/8a4Jab</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are all a bit superfluous give that Google maps highlights the tube routes now.<br />
<a href="http://is.gd/8a4Jab" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/8a4Jab</a></p>
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		<title>By: millionpoems</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/geographically-accurate-tube-map.html#comment-1183020</link>
		<dc:creator>millionpoems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 20:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God save Gill Sans!</description>
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		<title>By: Frode Helland</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/geographically-accurate-tube-map.html#comment-1182999</link>
		<dc:creator>Frode Helland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 20:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The font is ITC Johnston, a digital version of Edward Johnston&#039;s Underground Alphabet (another, more interesting one is P22&#039;s btw) for the London Subway. What&#039;s bothering you, except for the size?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The font is ITC Johnston, a digital version of Edward Johnston&#8217;s Underground Alphabet (another, more interesting one is P22&#8242;s btw) for the London Subway. What&#8217;s bothering you, except for the size?</p>
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		<title>By: hostile_17</title>
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		<dc:creator>hostile_17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 19:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember an interactive version of this from quite a few years back - you could skew between the two. Anyone know the URL? 

Oh, found it. :
http://www.tom-carden.co.uk/p5/tube_map_travel_times/applet/
Starts off geographically accurate, then does cool stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember an interactive version of this from quite a few years back &#8211; you could skew between the two. Anyone know the URL? </p>
<p>Oh, found it. :<br />
<a href="http://www.tom-carden.co.uk/p5/tube_map_travel_times/applet/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tom-carden.co.uk/p5/tube_map_travel_times/applet/</a><br />
Starts off geographically accurate, then does cool stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: fontastique</title>
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		<dc:creator>fontastique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 19:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, a study has been made recently on Harry Beck&#039;s design and shows that its confused up to 30% of passengers in taking the wrong route or choosing the wrong station to walk to. This costing millions of wasted time, not to mention packed trains and so forth. And not only on the London tube, but for all public transport around the world, since their maps are very much inspired by his design. So, this design, Brits are very proud of and like to mention as a reference, is a piece of sh...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2000847/30-passengers-longer-routes-Londons-Tube-map-misrepresents-distances-stations.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, a study has been made recently on Harry Beck&#8217;s design and shows that its confused up to 30% of passengers in taking the wrong route or choosing the wrong station to walk to. This costing millions of wasted time, not to mention packed trains and so forth. And not only on the London tube, but for all public transport around the world, since their maps are very much inspired by his design. So, this design, Brits are very proud of and like to mention as a reference, is a piece of sh&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2000847/30-passengers-longer-routes-Londons-Tube-map-misrepresents-distances-stations.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2000847/30-passengers-longer-routes-Londons-Tube-map-misrepresents-distances-stations.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: nnfdgnjdkfgnkjddfjkjhjkfghdfjk</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 19:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RIP OFF!!!!!!!!!

TFL have made and sold the same map themselves for many many years:
http://www.ltmuseumshop.co.uk/ltm/maps/posters/product/London-connections-map.html
http://www.ltmuseumshop.co.uk/ltm/maps/posters/product/Londons-national-rail-network.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RIP OFF!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>TFL have made and sold the same map themselves for many many years:<br />
<a href="http://www.ltmuseumshop.co.uk/ltm/maps/posters/product/London-connections-map.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ltmuseumshop.co.uk/ltm/maps/posters/product/London-connections-map.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ltmuseumshop.co.uk/ltm/maps/posters/product/Londons-national-rail-network.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ltmuseumshop.co.uk/ltm/maps/posters/product/Londons-national-rail-network.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Glippiglop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glippiglop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 19:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty damn awesome map, as an occasional visitor to London I can now see why some routes take so much longer (or faster) than anticipated.  The only way this could be better is if it worked in the average journey times between the major stations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty damn awesome map, as an occasional visitor to London I can now see why some routes take so much longer (or faster) than anticipated.  The only way this could be better is if it worked in the average journey times between the major stations.</p>
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		<title>By: Thayer Coburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thayer Coburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 19:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I&#039;m pretty sure that&#039;s the font they use on the current maps...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I&#8217;m pretty sure that&#8217;s the font they use on the current maps&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jon_anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon_anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 18:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>spiregrain, that is great - but surely the next step should be to take the street map of London and warp it to fit the grid you made? Would that be feasible? I would love to see it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spiregrain, that is great &#8211; but surely the next step should be to take the street map of London and warp it to fit the grid you made? Would that be feasible? I would love to see it. </p>
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		<title>By: Chevan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/geographically-accurate-tube-map.html#comment-1182906</link>
		<dc:creator>Chevan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 18:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I originally came to the comments to ask if anyone had ever done something like a false-color map or something similar that showed what the level of space squeeze was at different points in the map, and then I saw that your comment gave me exactly what I came here to find!

Kudos to you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I originally came to the comments to ask if anyone had ever done something like a false-color map or something similar that showed what the level of space squeeze was at different points in the map, and then I saw that your comment gave me exactly what I came here to find!</p>
<p>Kudos to you!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 18:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem, it seems, would be type legibility in smaller formats. The central area stops would be highly condensed, forcing either very small type or a very large map to see everything at once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem, it seems, would be type legibility in smaller formats. The central area stops would be highly condensed, forcing either very small type or a very large map to see everything at once.</p>
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		<title>By: MrMarieBlanc</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrMarieBlanc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 18:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s challenge: try to find your way from Sheperd&#039;s Bush to Cockfosters. 

I&#039;ve wondered about the distances between metros in Montréal. I don&#039;t know the distance comparison but the speed between metro seems much faster in Paris. It seemed like waiting for the metro (not the RER) took like a minute max in Paris, where in Montréal, it can take, maybe, 3, 5 or 10 minutes, and that&#039;s not if something has fucked up. It&#039;s nice that the London one is so big, I wish the one here was as big. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s challenge: try to find your way from Sheperd&#8217;s Bush to Cockfosters. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve wondered about the distances between metros in Montréal. I don&#8217;t know the distance comparison but the speed between metro seems much faster in Paris. It seemed like waiting for the metro (not the RER) took like a minute max in Paris, where in Montréal, it can take, maybe, 3, 5 or 10 minutes, and that&#8217;s not if something has fucked up. It&#8217;s nice that the London one is so big, I wish the one here was as big. </p>
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		<title>By: oldtaku</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldtaku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 18:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have much preferred this to the abstract map when visiting.

Best of all is a real map with stations and lines overlaid, but at that point it&#039;s purely for tourists.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have much preferred this to the abstract map when visiting.</p>
<p>Best of all is a real map with stations and lines overlaid, but at that point it&#8217;s purely for tourists.</p>
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		<title>By: Church</title>
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		<dc:creator>Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 18:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This new one reminds me of DC&#039;s Metro map:

http://www.dcmetromap.net/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This new one reminds me of DC&#8217;s Metro map:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dcmetromap.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dcmetromap.net/</a></p>
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		<title>By: jorum</title>
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		<dc:creator>jorum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a true geographic tube map knocking about a while back, until Transport for London jumped all over it (with some lame excuse about it being somehow useful for terrorists). 
It was actually quite useful for seeing those stations where a quick walk above-ground was better than changing lines etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a true geographic tube map knocking about a while back, until Transport for London jumped all over it (with some lame excuse about it being somehow useful for terrorists). <br />
It was actually quite useful for seeing those stations where a quick walk above-ground was better than changing lines etc.</p>
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		<title>By: PeterOD</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeterOD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Afraid I still think Beck&#039;s is easier to navigate with. This idea would get crazy once you all all the other zones, and having lived on London for 8 years now, I have always found the Beck map works perfectly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Afraid I still think Beck&#8217;s is easier to navigate with. This idea would get crazy once you all all the other zones, and having lived on London for 8 years now, I have always found the Beck map works perfectly.</p>
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		<title>By: MrRocking</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrRocking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@boingboing-06bd2df0534a430a7ee6a006a5dfd218:disqus  Now that &lt;strong&gt;is&lt;/strong&gt; interesting and valuable for tourists on hot days when you don&#039;t want to be permanently stuck on the tube but occasionally need to hop on for distances.  I&#039;d say the geographically accurate version is kinda hellish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@boingboing-06bd2df0534a430a7ee6a006a5dfd218:disqus  Now that <strong>is</strong> interesting and valuable for tourists on hot days when you don&#8217;t want to be permanently stuck on the tube but occasionally need to hop on for distances.  I&#8217;d say the geographically accurate version is kinda hellish.</p>
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		<title>By: Petzl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petzl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s wrong with the font?  Not &lt;i&gt;everything&lt;/i&gt; can be Papyrus. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s wrong with the font?  Not <i>everything</i> can be Papyrus. </p>
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		<title>By: Teirhan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teirhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 18:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you boing boing, for making me realize that my interest in maps is a little more wide-reaching than previously thought.

this is so cool!

@boingboing-06bd2df0534a430a7ee6a006a5dfd218:disqus that map is pretty cool too, actually.  

It&#039;s amazing how visualizations of the world via things like public transit routing maps can alter people&#039;s perceptions of the real world... I know that my mental map of the [SF] Bay Area is almost wholly maintained by BART&#039;s route maps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you boing boing, for making me realize that my interest in maps is a little more wide-reaching than previously thought.</p>
<p>this is so cool!</p>
<p>@boingboing-06bd2df0534a430a7ee6a006a5dfd218:disqus that map is pretty cool too, actually.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing how visualizations of the world via things like public transit routing maps can alter people&#8217;s perceptions of the real world&#8230; I know that my mental map of the [SF] Bay Area is almost wholly maintained by BART&#8217;s route maps.</p>
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		<title>By: bklynchris</title>
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		<dc:creator>bklynchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would stare at this map when on the tube and wonder so deeply about how much space was actually between these stops that I would miss my stop.

I would pay for a NYMTA subway map that is geographically (same as scale?) accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would stare at this map when on the tube and wonder so deeply about how much space was actually between these stops that I would miss my stop.</p>
<p>I would pay for a NYMTA subway map that is geographically (same as scale?) accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: Mujokan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/geographically-accurate-tube-map.html#comment-1182853</link>
		<dc:creator>Mujokan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MORNINGTON CRESCENT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MORNINGTON CRESCENT!</p>
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		<title>By: spiregrain</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/08/geographically-accurate-tube-map.html#comment-1182848</link>
		<dc:creator>spiregrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 17:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will now plug my geographic London tube-map, now woefully out of date, but with a concept that takes the Beck Map as reality, and warps the true geography of London to fit.

Here:  http://www.ksglp.org.uk/map/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will now plug my geographic London tube-map, now woefully out of date, but with a concept that takes the Beck Map as reality, and warps the true geography of London to fit.</p>
<p>Here:  <a href="http://www.ksglp.org.uk/map/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ksglp.org.uk/map/</a></p>
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