Comments on: Biosensors as temporary tattoos http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sat, 25 May 2013 00:37:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Neal Donnelly http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1191713 Neal Donnelly Thu, 18 Aug 2011 15:03:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1191713 That's some sloppy blogging guys. the team was from University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. Michael McAlpine is just a Princeton engineer who happens to have been approached by Science News for a quote - the lead author is Dae-Hyeong Kim That’s some sloppy blogging guys. the team was from University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. Michael McAlpine is just a Princeton engineer who happens to have been approached by Science News for a quote – the lead author is Dae-Hyeong Kim

]]> By: andygates http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189907 andygates Wed, 17 Aug 2011 11:36:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189907 The self-monitoring nerds are going to go crazy with this.  Image the fun you could have optimizing your trailmix to maintain steady blood sugar!  (Actually, that sounds useful to me as a cyclist; by the time you bonk, you're often too stupid from bloodbrainfail to realize it) The self-monitoring nerds are going to go crazy with this.  Image the fun you could have optimizing your trailmix to maintain steady blood sugar!  (Actually, that sounds useful to me as a cyclist; by the time you bonk, you’re often too stupid from bloodbrainfail to realize it)

]]> By: tubacat http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189475 tubacat Tue, 16 Aug 2011 22:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189475 God, I know there is potential for good here, but I hate to see it anyway. You just know this is the way things will go in the future (your entire medical record on your wrist, or whatever), and I'm sorry to see the first steps of mass cyborgization. Don't know if I can put into words why that is (but I also don't like sex toys ; )  ) God, I know there is potential for good here, but I hate to see it anyway. You just know this is the way things will go in the future (your entire medical record on your wrist, or whatever), and I’m sorry to see the first steps of mass cyborgization. Don’t know if I can put into words why that is (but I also don’t like sex toys ; )  )

]]> By: Jamie Austin http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189396 Jamie Austin Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189396 Neonatal and diabetes management would be excellent uses for something like this.  In fact, I'd love to stick one on my kid when he's sick so I know his vitals since his verbal skills and cooperation level with traditional techniques leave me guessing if he has a fever, a toothache, or is just cranky. Neonatal and diabetes management would be excellent uses for something like this.  In fact, I’d love to stick one on my kid when he’s sick so I know his vitals since his verbal skills and cooperation level with traditional techniques leave me guessing if he has a fever, a toothache, or is just cranky.

]]> By: cymk http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189328 cymk Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189328 I was referring to the sciencemag.org link (missed the article the first time around). Still wireless coils and solar power are not the end all reliable solution for long term powering of the patches. These would be great for hospitals; whether its tracking patient vitals, position, or history. I'm not sure how the chip could tell if you washed your hands or not, but having drug allergies pop up on a display for the staff would be immensely helpful. If anyone gets them first I think its going to the the CIA. The potential for spying and covert communications is just too great. I was referring to the sciencemag.org link (missed the article the first time around). Still wireless coils and solar power are not the end all reliable solution for long term powering of the patches. These would be great for hospitals; whether its tracking patient vitals, position, or history.

I’m not sure how the chip could tell if you washed your hands or not, but having drug allergies pop up on a display for the staff would be immensely helpful.

If anyone gets them first I think its going to the the CIA. The potential for spying and covert communications is just too great.

]]> By: ssonmoss http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189313 ssonmoss Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189313 my dad actually wrote a  science fiction book that "got creative" with this idea. biosensor tattoos link up with a social networking site ("ebocloud") and people can write programs that would, for instance, compel a bunch of untrained strangers to complete a perfect gamelan piece or play a game of human etch-a-sketch. having read that, this post makes me pretty excited. my dad actually wrote a  science fiction book that “got creative” with this idea. biosensor tattoos link up with a social networking site (“ebocloud”) and people can write programs that would, for instance, compel a bunch of untrained strangers to complete a perfect gamelan piece or play a game of human etch-a-sketch. having read that, this post makes me pretty excited.

]]> By: AnthonyC http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189309 AnthonyC Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:52:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189309 One watt. That's about what it takes to power a phone while it's in use (as a phone). Your body? ~100W resting, more during exercise. Now, do I want devices that feed on my blood? Not really. But it wouldn;t exactly be a huge draw on the body. One watt. That’s about what it takes to power a phone while it’s in use (as a phone). Your body? ~100W resting, more during exercise.

Now, do I want devices that feed on my blood? Not really. But it wouldn;t exactly be a huge draw on the body.

]]> By: David Forbes http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189295 David Forbes Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:44:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189295 I like this but it's got a long ways to go before it's going to do something significant such as be a cellphone. A typical phone these days has at least a square inch of silicon, but most of that is for the smarts, not the phone. It would also have to suck large quantities of juice from your arm to power the chips. Remember the lemon-powered radio? Now you're the lemon. I like this but it’s got a long ways to go before it’s going to do something significant such as be a cellphone. A typical phone these days has at least a square inch of silicon, but most of that is for the smarts, not the phone. It would also have to suck large quantities of juice from your arm to power the chips. Remember the lemon-powered radio? Now you’re the lemon.

]]> By: Editz http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189290 Editz Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:39:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189290 So I guess this was the Beta version? So I guess this was the Beta version?

]]> By: Phoenix Lomax http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189272 Phoenix Lomax Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:19:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189272 Temporary-tattoo mark o' de beast! Like if the Antichrist was marketing pure EVULZ in specially-marked boxes of Cap'n Crunch. Temporary-tattoo mark o’ de beast! Like if the Antichrist was marketing pure EVULZ in specially-marked boxes of Cap’n Crunch.

]]> By: lvdata http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189251 lvdata Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189251 Huh? Solar was mentioned, and an antenna can be used for both data and to receive broadcast power. Yes, a special reader will be necessary as RFID is not made for continuous data transmitting, for heartbeat, blood pressure, etc. I can see them first being used in a hospital setting, with EVERYONE getting one, patients, guests, nurses, doctors, and all support staff. Being able to track everyone and everything down to 1" accuracy would be wonderful in the event of a transmissible disease outbreak. I'd bet at 5 million cost to setup and $5 per use they would pay for themselves quickly in reducing normal contagious diseases. You could tell if a nurse or doc didn't wash their hands, a guest who wandered in to a wrong area, or find that patient who is having a mental problem with a drug reaction who wandered off. IF you are worried about tracking, you might want to stop carrying a cellphone and driving your OnStar equipped car. Huh? Solar was mentioned, and an antenna can be used for both data and to receive broadcast power. Yes, a special reader will be necessary as RFID is not made for continuous data transmitting, for heartbeat, blood pressure, etc.

I can see them first being used in a hospital setting, with EVERYONE getting one, patients, guests, nurses, doctors, and all support staff. Being able to track everyone and everything down to 1″ accuracy would be wonderful in the event of a transmissible disease outbreak. I’d bet at 5 million cost to setup and $5 per use they would pay for themselves quickly in reducing normal contagious diseases. You could tell if a nurse or doc didn’t wash their hands, a guest who wandered in to a wrong area, or find that patient who is having a mental problem with a drug reaction who wandered off.

IF you are worried about tracking, you might want to stop carrying a cellphone and driving your OnStar equipped car.

]]> By: Dude http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189250 Dude Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:03:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189250 Correction: This did not involve Princeton - the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign was an integral part of this effort. Professor John Rogers of the U of I led the team, which also included other researchers from the U of I. The Science article quotes a Princeton researcher at the top of the story about how cool this development is, but that doesn't mean Princeton was the research entity involved: http://news.illinois.edu/news/11/0811skin_electronics_JohnRogers.html Correction: This did not involve Princeton – the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign was an integral part of this effort. Professor John Rogers of the U of I led the team, which also included other researchers from the U of I. The Science article quotes a Princeton researcher at the top of the story about how cool this development is, but that doesn’t mean Princeton was the research entity involved: http://news.illinois.edu/news/11/0811skin_electronics_JohnRogers.html

]]> By: Blaze Curry http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189231 Blaze Curry Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189231 I'm predicting...an external regulatory/immune system, Deus Ex HR style. Whoa, deja vu there for a second as I typed that. I’m predicting…an external regulatory/immune system, Deus Ex HR style.
Whoa, deja vu there for a second as I typed that.

]]> By: Jim O'Connell http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189219 Jim O'Connell Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189219 Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (666) Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (666)

]]> By: cymk http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189147 cymk Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189147 NWOers shouldn't worry too much just yet; still no reliable way to power them (at least none mentioned in the abstract). Even then, assuming they are using RFID to transmit and receive data; there is a limited range for reading said data and you have to have a special device to read it (sure you can get RFID reads on ebay, but how many have you seen on the shelves at your favorite electronics store)? NWOers shouldn’t worry too much just yet; still no reliable way to power them (at least none mentioned in the abstract). Even then, assuming they are using RFID to transmit and receive data; there is a limited range for reading said data and you have to have a special device to read it (sure you can get RFID reads on ebay, but how many have you seen on the shelves at your favorite electronics store)?

]]> By: Maggie Koerth-Baker http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189143 Maggie Koerth-Baker Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:19:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189143 Yup. I came to the thread just to see if they'd shown up yet.  Yup. I came to the thread just to see if they’d shown up yet. 

]]> By: Jordan Crane http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189136 Jordan Crane Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:11:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189136 I like how it looks like a little american flag. I like how it looks like a little american flag.

]]> By: Jordan Crane http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189137 Jordan Crane Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:11:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189137 scooped! scooped!

]]> By: Brent Kirkham http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189133 Brent Kirkham Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:09:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189133 The impact on clinical trials will be immense as far as monitoring goes.  Neonatal screening, diabetes monitoring, BP, fluid/salt balance, sports.  Egads, I gotta get me some of those.  Can they run Linux I wonder? Obligatory XKCD reference: http://xkcd.com/644/ The impact on clinical trials will be immense as far as monitoring goes.  Neonatal screening, diabetes monitoring, BP, fluid/salt balance, sports.  Egads, I gotta get me some of those.  Can they run Linux I wonder?

Obligatory XKCD reference: http://xkcd.com/644/

]]> By: David Pescovitz http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189134 David Pescovitz Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:09:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189134 Also, the NWOers. The tattoo does look strikingly like Old Glory, no? Also, the NWOers. The tattoo does look strikingly like Old Glory, no?

]]> By: niktemadur http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189115 niktemadur Tue, 16 Aug 2011 16:56:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189115 You just know the rapture people are gonna have a field day with this one! You just know the rapture people are gonna have a field day with this one!

]]> By: Utenzil http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189114 Utenzil Tue, 16 Aug 2011 16:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/2011/08/16/biosensors-as-temporary-tattoos.html#comment-1189114 ' “I think creative folks out there will think of things we haven’t even contemplated,” Rogers says.' Like, eliminating currency, enslaving mankind, remote control death?   <==  sry, I do so like me a good conspiracy. ‘ “I think creative folks out there will think of things we haven’t even contemplated,” Rogers says.’

Like, eliminating currency, enslaving mankind, remote control death?   <==  sry, I do so like me a good conspiracy.

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