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	<title>Comments on: Dispatch from the Nymwars: Pseudonyms and&#160;science</title>
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		<title>By: Surely Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1200417</link>
		<dc:creator>Surely Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 16:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTH!?  If you don&#039;t like it, don&#039;t use it!  Better yet, make a competing product that&#039;s better!  Sheesh!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTH!?  If you don&#8217;t like it, don&#8217;t use it!  Better yet, make a competing product that&#8217;s better!  Sheesh!</p>
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		<title>By: Kaleberg</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1197759</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaleberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google Plus is trying to bring back those half page long disclaimers at the bottom of every post stating exactly in what context and under what authority the statement is being issued. You now, those long statements that this note does not reflect the views of blah blah blah. These are as bad as EULAs and, like EULAs, are rarely read. A pseudonym makes it much easier to tell if what one is reading is ex-cathedra as opposed to informal. 

You can see a distinct division between people who evaluate others in terms of their &quot;authority&quot;, their official position in society, as opposed to those who evaluate others in terms of their actions and statements. This split is the primary distinction between conservative, authority and position oriented morality, and liberal , harm and fairness oriented morality. You can really see this played out in the various comments just on this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google Plus is trying to bring back those half page long disclaimers at the bottom of every post stating exactly in what context and under what authority the statement is being issued. You now, those long statements that this note does not reflect the views of blah blah blah. These are as bad as EULAs and, like EULAs, are rarely read. A pseudonym makes it much easier to tell if what one is reading is ex-cathedra as opposed to informal. </p>
<p>You can see a distinct division between people who evaluate others in terms of their &#8220;authority&#8221;, their official position in society, as opposed to those who evaluate others in terms of their actions and statements. This split is the primary distinction between conservative, authority and position oriented morality, and liberal , harm and fairness oriented morality. You can really see this played out in the various comments just on this post.</p>
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		<title>By: Tynam</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1196353</link>
		<dc:creator>Tynam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 15:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trouble is, the &quot;source of disgruntlement&quot; is very rarely the actual research paper, because the number of cranks who read the journals properly is pretty low.  

The source of trouble is more usually some half-cocked web page / news story which misunderstands and misquotes two sentences at random - and is then believed as written.

(If sports journalists behaved the way science journalists are &lt;i&gt;required&lt;/i&gt; to, they&#039;d be fired in a week.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trouble is, the &#8220;source of disgruntlement&#8221; is very rarely the actual research paper, because the number of cranks who read the journals properly is pretty low.  </p>
<p>The source of trouble is more usually some half-cocked web page / news story which misunderstands and misquotes two sentences at random &#8211; and is then believed as written.</p>
<p>(If sports journalists behaved the way science journalists are <i>required</i> to, they&#8217;d be fired in a week.)</p>
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		<title>By: heavyboots</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1196089</link>
		<dc:creator>heavyboots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so true. I sent invites to a bunch of people on a forum I&#039;ve been on for years where I&#039;ve never met any of the people IRL. And yes, as they accepted the invites, I had no freaking clue who was who and why they were adding me to their circles...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so true. I sent invites to a bunch of people on a forum I&#8217;ve been on for years where I&#8217;ve never met any of the people IRL. And yes, as they accepted the invites, I had no freaking clue who was who and why they were adding me to their circles&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: heavyboots</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1196086</link>
		<dc:creator>heavyboots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I would contend that G+ already has a fairly decent mechanism for finding your friend Joe online—even if he&#039;s not a member of G+ yet. Google allows you to add people to circles based solely on their email address.

Consequently, if you&#039;re a good enough friend of Joe to know his email address, just add that to your friends circle. My (still suspended) account has had several people &quot;go live&quot; on G+ since I last checked it a week or so ago, for example, because I added them by email address as soon as I got on G+.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I would contend that G+ already has a fairly decent mechanism for finding your friend Joe online—even if he&#8217;s not a member of G+ yet. Google allows you to add people to circles based solely on their email address.</p>
<p>Consequently, if you&#8217;re a good enough friend of Joe to know his email address, just add that to your friends circle. My (still suspended) account has had several people &#8220;go live&#8221; on G+ since I last checked it a week or so ago, for example, because I added them by email address as soon as I got on G+.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Pam</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1196077</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I don&#039;t want to have to have a secret decoder when I go looking for my friend Saba on Google+, but sadly I do because Google makes him use a two-part name that I&#039;ve never known him by.  I have plenty of friends who I&#039;ve known in real life for years, sometimes decades, by their autonyms, not by their birth names.  That makes it really hard to find my friends on Google+ since I often can&#039;t remember or may not even know the names Google+ makes them use.

tl;dr - don&#039;t assume what&#039;s true for you is true for others, and it would be nice if Google+ would support the diversity that exists in real life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I don&#8217;t want to have to have a secret decoder when I go looking for my friend Saba on Google+, but sadly I do because Google makes him use a two-part name that I&#8217;ve never known him by.  I have plenty of friends who I&#8217;ve known in real life for years, sometimes decades, by their autonyms, not by their birth names.  That makes it really hard to find my friends on Google+ since I often can&#8217;t remember or may not even know the names Google+ makes them use.</p>
<p>tl;dr &#8211; don&#8217;t assume what&#8217;s true for you is true for others, and it would be nice if Google+ would support the diversity that exists in real life.</p>
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		<title>By: bob o`bob</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1196030</link>
		<dc:creator>bob o`bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even after writing of the distinction, the author of this article can&#039;t seem to help but confuse pseudonymous with anonymous.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even after writing of the distinction, the author of this article can&#8217;t seem to help but confuse pseudonymous with anonymous.</p>
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		<title>By: billstewart</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1196003</link>
		<dc:creator>billstewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in the late 70s and early 80s, when I was at Bell Labs, standard corporate policy was to use slightly-psuedonymized names for both internal and publicly published documentation about our work.   The standard name format was [initial(s)] [family-name], rather than using personal-name and family name, so papers that I wrote or co-authored would list me as &quot;W. C. Stewart&quot;, plus a department number.  As far as I could tell, this was primarily done to remove gender information and to some extent ethnic information from names, with a goal of reducing possibly bias, as well as just being formal for the sake of formality.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the late 70s and early 80s, when I was at Bell Labs, standard corporate policy was to use slightly-psuedonymized names for both internal and publicly published documentation about our work.   The standard name format was [initial(s)] [family-name], rather than using personal-name and family name, so papers that I wrote or co-authored would list me as &#8220;W. C. Stewart&#8221;, plus a department number.  As far as I could tell, this was primarily done to remove gender information and to some extent ethnic information from names, with a goal of reducing possibly bias, as well as just being formal for the sake of formality.  </p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Tuzzio</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1195979</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Tuzzio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 03:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G+ is 1) awesome, 2) in beta, 3) looking for feedback.  People are just trying to tell them about features they&#039;d like.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G+ is 1) awesome, 2) in beta, 3) looking for feedback.  People are just trying to tell them about features they&#8217;d like.  </p>
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		<title>By: Nonentity</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1195739</link>
		<dc:creator>Nonentity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;there are a whole bunch of reasons for pseudonymity centered around the 
fact that scientist-bloggers aren&#039;t professional writers. They&#039;re 
professional scientists. Often employed by older people who don&#039;t 
understand why they&#039;d want to blog, or what the value is in doing that, 
or who&#039;d worry about how a subordinate&#039;s blog will reflect on them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;One of the book series that I re-read many times when I was young was written by a famous science and science fiction writer, Paul French.  Oh, wait, he&#039;s actually better known as Isaac Asimov.  But at the time, he didn&#039;t want to have his more serious work tainted by fiction targeted at a different audience.

He also famously *tried* to publish a spoof scientific paper under a pseudonym, worried that it would damage him in his doctoral examination if it was taken badly.  It was thankfully taken in good humor, though they did make him sweat over it.

Long before blogging came to be, of course.  Everything old is new again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>there are a whole bunch of reasons for pseudonymity centered around the<br />
fact that scientist-bloggers aren&#8217;t professional writers. They&#8217;re<br />
professional scientists. Often employed by older people who don&#8217;t<br />
understand why they&#8217;d want to blog, or what the value is in doing that,<br />
or who&#8217;d worry about how a subordinate&#8217;s blog will reflect on them.</p></blockquote>
<p>One of the book series that I re-read many times when I was young was written by a famous science and science fiction writer, Paul French.  Oh, wait, he&#8217;s actually better known as Isaac Asimov.  But at the time, he didn&#8217;t want to have his more serious work tainted by fiction targeted at a different audience.</p>
<p>He also famously *tried* to publish a spoof scientific paper under a pseudonym, worried that it would damage him in his doctoral examination if it was taken badly.  It was thankfully taken in good humor, though they did make him sweat over it.</p>
<p>Long before blogging came to be, of course.  Everything old is new again.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Badger</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1195700</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Surely if it&#039;s bad enough that the police are investigating threats 
against some researchers, it&#039;s bad enough that your excuse for posting 
pseudonymously isn&#039;t lame.&lt;/blockquote&gt;No, the reason why it is still lame is that presumably the researcher would still have to use his or her real name on the actual research paper which would presumably be the source of disgruntlement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Surely if it&#8217;s bad enough that the police are investigating threats<br />
against some researchers, it&#8217;s bad enough that your excuse for posting<br />
pseudonymously isn&#8217;t lame.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, the reason why it is still lame is that presumably the researcher would still have to use his or her real name on the actual research paper which would presumably be the source of disgruntlement.</p>
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		<title>By: brillow</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1195680</link>
		<dc:creator>brillow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the solution to this problem is capitalism.  Don&#039;t use services that don&#039;t allow you to do what you want to do.  Want to be anonymous? Don&#039;t use Google+!  Use something else like Diaspora or even facebook.

Part of being passionate about things like this is to not allow your deeply held desires about anonymity be subjected by your desire to be on the cool-kids social network.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the solution to this problem is capitalism.  Don&#8217;t use services that don&#8217;t allow you to do what you want to do.  Want to be anonymous? Don&#8217;t use Google+!  Use something else like Diaspora or even facebook.</p>
<p>Part of being passionate about things like this is to not allow your deeply held desires about anonymity be subjected by your desire to be on the cool-kids social network.</p>
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		<title>By: lishevita</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1195672</link>
		<dc:creator>lishevita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the same thing exists with legal names. My birth-name was Elizabeth Sterling Wall. That seemed like a strange enough name that I should be the only person in the world with that name, I thought. Over the course of my life I ran into two other women with exactly the same name. One was a 96 year old woman who used the same doctor that I did when I was 18. Who other was a woman in Canada who was doing graduate work in the same field in which I was doing my undergraduate studies. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the same thing exists with legal names. My birth-name was Elizabeth Sterling Wall. That seemed like a strange enough name that I should be the only person in the world with that name, I thought. Over the course of my life I ran into two other women with exactly the same name. One was a 96 year old woman who used the same doctor that I did when I was 18. Who other was a woman in Canada who was doing graduate work in the same field in which I was doing my undergraduate studies. </p>
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		<title>By: lishevita</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1195666</link>
		<dc:creator>lishevita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s his choice to be found or not. That&#039;s the point. If he uses the name &quot;LordSatan666&quot; and can&#039;t connect with any of his friends, he may re-think that choice and re-name the account, or open a new one.

I think that this is a case of power over verses power with. Do you have power over your friend Joe to force him to let you find him if YOU want to? Or do you have power with him to connect online in a way that you both agree to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s his choice to be found or not. That&#8217;s the point. If he uses the name &#8220;LordSatan666&#8243; and can&#8217;t connect with any of his friends, he may re-think that choice and re-name the account, or open a new one.</p>
<p>I think that this is a case of power over verses power with. Do you have power over your friend Joe to force him to let you find him if YOU want to? Or do you have power with him to connect online in a way that you both agree to?</p>
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		<title>By: MrJM</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1195636</link>
		<dc:creator>MrJM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 22:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles Stross: &quot;Let me explain the many reasons why Google Plus&#039;s names policy doesn&#039;t work.&quot; 
http://goo.gl/bLGIk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles Stross: &#8220;Let me explain the many reasons why Google Plus&#8217;s names policy doesn&#8217;t work.&#8221; <br />
<a href="http://goo.gl/bLGIk" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/bLGIk</a></p>
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		<title>By: James Cook</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1195572</link>
		<dc:creator>James Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stable pseudonyms sound like a good answer for many communities, but I&#039;m curious how those communities deal with impersonation.  For example, if CmdrTaco (founder of Slashdot.org) has a well-known identity with that name, and I start a CmdrTaco account to impersonate him, does he have any recourse?  Who is to say that I&#039;m not also CmdrTaco?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stable pseudonyms sound like a good answer for many communities, but I&#8217;m curious how those communities deal with impersonation.  For example, if CmdrTaco (founder of Slashdot.org) has a well-known identity with that name, and I start a CmdrTaco account to impersonate him, does he have any recourse?  Who is to say that I&#8217;m not also CmdrTaco?</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Paperkid</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1195546</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Paperkid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. I have a Google+ account, not under a real name. No problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. I have a Google+ account, not under a real name. No problems.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenJello</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1195537</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenJello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It should be up to Joe to decide how he is found, not up to you to.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Sounds like you haven&#039;t tried to organize anything major in RL with your pseudonym friends.  It&#039;s majorly distracting, particularly when you&#039;re first going to a new place.

If Joe doesn&#039;t want to be found, opening up a &quot;social&quot; networking site account sounds like a bad idea.  Sorta like if you don&#039;t want to be found, you get an unlisted number.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It should be up to Joe to decide how he is found, not up to you to.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sounds like you haven&#8217;t tried to organize anything major in RL with your pseudonym friends.  It&#8217;s majorly distracting, particularly when you&#8217;re first going to a new place.</p>
<p>If Joe doesn&#8217;t want to be found, opening up a &#8220;social&#8221; networking site account sounds like a bad idea.  Sorta like if you don&#8217;t want to be found, you get an unlisted number.</p>
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		<title>By: Grumblefish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grumblefish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely if it&#039;s bad enough that the police are investigating threats against some researchers, it&#039;s bad enough that your excuse for posting pseudonymously isn&#039;t lame.
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely if it&#8217;s bad enough that the police are investigating threats against some researchers, it&#8217;s bad enough that your excuse for posting pseudonymously isn&#8217;t lame.</p>
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		<title>By: PlaneShaper</title>
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		<dc:creator>PlaneShaper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;When I go looking for my friend Joe online, I want to be able to find Joe, and know it&#039;s Joe.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;It should be up to Joe to decide how he is found, not up to you to.

This isn&#039;t about &quot;posting with pseudonyms&quot; -- it&#039;s about owning the right to present your identity as you desire and to who you desire.  A right that, barring criminal investigation, should not be infringed upon by government or corporations.  It doesn&#039;t matter how lame or serious the reasons to do so actually are, it&#039;s about having the right to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;When I go looking for my friend Joe online, I want to be able to find Joe, and know it&#8217;s Joe.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>It should be up to Joe to decide how he is found, not up to you to.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t about &#8220;posting with pseudonyms&#8221; &#8212; it&#8217;s about owning the right to present your identity as you desire and to who you desire.  A right that, barring criminal investigation, should not be infringed upon by government or corporations.  It doesn&#8217;t matter how lame or serious the reasons to do so actually are, it&#8217;s about having the right to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: MDwebguy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1195419</link>
		<dc:creator>MDwebguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Nicholas, you&#039;re my Cool Dude of the Day Award winner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Nicholas, you&#8217;re my Cool Dude of the Day Award winner.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Hutchins</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1195307</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Hutchins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My name is Mike Hutchins.

On the rare occasion I post on Facebook, I post under my own name. That works quite well among my small circle of friends and family.

But I am also a gamer, and a longtime user of Usenet. On my newsgroups, and on the forums for the games I play, I post as The Beatnik, or some variation thereof. Those with whom I interact online, for the most part, would be confused should I start posting under my real name rather than my psuedonym. I experienced this for myself in the early days of G+, when a good portion of my time was spent peering intently at unfamiliar &quot;real&quot; names, and trying to discern which were friends, which were mere acquaintances, and which were spammers. The only names that were instantly familiar to me were the psuedonyms. Those names are now banned, their accounts abandoned, thanks to Google&#039;s implementation of their policy.

So, for me, the policy has had the opposite of the originally stated intent. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My name is Mike Hutchins.</p>
<p>On the rare occasion I post on Facebook, I post under my own name. That works quite well among my small circle of friends and family.</p>
<p>But I am also a gamer, and a longtime user of Usenet. On my newsgroups, and on the forums for the games I play, I post as The Beatnik, or some variation thereof. Those with whom I interact online, for the most part, would be confused should I start posting under my real name rather than my psuedonym. I experienced this for myself in the early days of G+, when a good portion of my time was spent peering intently at unfamiliar &#8220;real&#8221; names, and trying to discern which were friends, which were mere acquaintances, and which were spammers. The only names that were instantly familiar to me were the psuedonyms. Those names are now banned, their accounts abandoned, thanks to Google&#8217;s implementation of their policy.</p>
<p>So, for me, the policy has had the opposite of the originally stated intent. </p>
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		<title>By: GreenJello</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1195281</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenJello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; But it shouldn&#039;t be necessary for every scientist who wants to offer a voice of reason in public to risk social, physical or professional harm to do so.&lt;/blockquote&gt;They don&#039;t have too, but I&#039;m going to have less respect for somebody who doesn&#039;t identify themselves, or expose their credentials.  At that point they have just as much authority as I do, on any topic they wish to expound upon.  My exposing their credentials I can double check who they are, and what their existing reputation is, rather than go through the long and exhaustive process of reading everything their pseudonym has published.

(Also G+ isn&#039;t the only place to blog on the &#039;net)

&lt;blockquote&gt;If Joe&#039;s that much of a friend, you probably already know his favoured 
pseudonym. If you don&#039;t, then 1) see if he also has a real-life-name 
network, 2) ask, or 3) he didn&#039;t want you to, and the system is working 
as he intended - keeping his online writing separate from his RL 
friends.&lt;/blockquote&gt;That&#039;s great for my very close friends, not so great for acquaintances I&#039;ve lost contact with, people I&#039;m casually connected with, or new friends.  It&#039;s also confusing trying to remember yet another name for somebody when we as human beings are so poor at remembering one name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> But it shouldn&#8217;t be necessary for every scientist who wants to offer a voice of reason in public to risk social, physical or professional harm to do so.</p></blockquote>
<p>They don&#8217;t have too, but I&#8217;m going to have less respect for somebody who doesn&#8217;t identify themselves, or expose their credentials.  At that point they have just as much authority as I do, on any topic they wish to expound upon.  My exposing their credentials I can double check who they are, and what their existing reputation is, rather than go through the long and exhaustive process of reading everything their pseudonym has published.</p>
<p>(Also G+ isn&#8217;t the only place to blog on the &#8216;net)</p>
<blockquote><p>If Joe&#8217;s that much of a friend, you probably already know his favoured<br />
pseudonym. If you don&#8217;t, then 1) see if he also has a real-life-name<br />
network, 2) ask, or 3) he didn&#8217;t want you to, and the system is working<br />
as he intended &#8211; keeping his online writing separate from his RL<br />
friends.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s great for my very close friends, not so great for acquaintances I&#8217;ve lost contact with, people I&#8217;m casually connected with, or new friends.  It&#8217;s also confusing trying to remember yet another name for somebody when we as human beings are so poor at remembering one name.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Badger</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1195278</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That shows that not all scientist-bloggers need nyms. The article is about whether any need nyms, and if you check, it mentions a number of good reasons some might.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yes, but the reasons given were pretty lame. It&#039;s not as if bloggers using their real names shy away from controversial things that could potentially cause threats to themselves. Evolutionary biologists like Eisen and Coyne often deal with the wrath of creationists. Rosie Redfield publicly criticizes well-publicized but potentially flawed science such as the arsenic bacteria of Mono Lake. The fact that these scientists are willing to publicly speak out is exactly what we need more of. And, as a bonus, if you don&#039;t use a nym, you don&#039;t have to worry about people threatening to &quot;expose&quot; you by figuring out your real name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That shows that not all scientist-bloggers need nyms. The article is about whether any need nyms, and if you check, it mentions a number of good reasons some might.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, but the reasons given were pretty lame. It&#8217;s not as if bloggers using their real names shy away from controversial things that could potentially cause threats to themselves. Evolutionary biologists like Eisen and Coyne often deal with the wrath of creationists. Rosie Redfield publicly criticizes well-publicized but potentially flawed science such as the arsenic bacteria of Mono Lake. The fact that these scientists are willing to publicly speak out is exactly what we need more of. And, as a bonus, if you don&#8217;t use a nym, you don&#8217;t have to worry about people threatening to &#8220;expose&#8221; you by figuring out your real name.</p>
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		<title>By: ysengrin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1195273</link>
		<dc:creator>ysengrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... when I go looking for my friend Joe online, I want to be able to find Joe, and know it&#039;s Joe.&quot;

If &quot;real&quot; names are required online, and you&#039;re assuming &quot;Joe&quot; is his real name. Did you ask for a government-issued ID?

Google+ asks that you use the name you are commonly known by; for some of us, that isn&#039;t the name on our birth certificate or ID. I&#039;ve been going by Ysengrin for over thirty years. That&#039;s how people are going to be looking for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; when I go looking for my friend Joe online, I want to be able to find Joe, and know it&#8217;s Joe.&#8221;</p>
<p>If &#8220;real&#8221; names are required online, and you&#8217;re assuming &#8220;Joe&#8221; is his real name. Did you ask for a government-issued ID?</p>
<p>Google+ asks that you use the name you are commonly known by; for some of us, that isn&#8217;t the name on our birth certificate or ID. I&#8217;ve been going by Ysengrin for over thirty years. That&#8217;s how people are going to be looking for me.</p>
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		<title>By: st vincent</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1195264</link>
		<dc:creator>st vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been using pseudonyms (and nom de pranks) online for well over 20 years now. I used to log on to local bulletin boards with a C64 back in the day, and I don&#039;t recall anyone using their real name as a user name, myself included. When I logged onto the internet, it just seemed like a good idea to continue with the practice.  And the reasons to keep doing so just seem to grow exponentially with each passing day.

Why I keep it up: 

-My real name is unique, and I am protective of it.
-The less data attached to me, the better. Cross
-When you get right down to it, I&#039;m not at all hard to find in real life. Make some effort, will ya?
 
If one&#039;s livelihood compels someone to have an online presence (for example, our esteemed hosts here at BB), I think it is perfectly legit to have a nom de plume for that purpose.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using pseudonyms (and nom de pranks) online for well over 20 years now. I used to log on to local bulletin boards with a C64 back in the day, and I don&#8217;t recall anyone using their real name as a user name, myself included. When I logged onto the internet, it just seemed like a good idea to continue with the practice.  And the reasons to keep doing so just seem to grow exponentially with each passing day.</p>
<p>Why I keep it up: </p>
<p>-My real name is unique, and I am protective of it.<br />
-The less data attached to me, the better. Cross<br />
-When you get right down to it, I&#8217;m not at all hard to find in real life. Make some effort, will ya?<br />
 <br />
If one&#8217;s livelihood compels someone to have an online presence (for example, our esteemed hosts here at BB), I think it is perfectly legit to have a nom de plume for that purpose.  </p>
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		<title>By: Tynam</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1195255</link>
		<dc:creator>Tynam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is absolutely true - but insufficient reason to deny pseudonyms. Maximum-efficiency-of-contact is certainly &lt;i&gt;a&lt;/i&gt; design goal, but it shouldn&#039;t be the &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt; design goal. Social-network norms of behaviour are likely to sort this problem out reasonably efficiently in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is absolutely true &#8211; but insufficient reason to deny pseudonyms. Maximum-efficiency-of-contact is certainly <i>a</i> design goal, but it shouldn&#8217;t be the <i>only</i> design goal. Social-network norms of behaviour are likely to sort this problem out reasonably efficiently in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: Irene Delse</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1195248</link>
		<dc:creator>Irene Delse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apropos of &#039;nyms online and the usual (and not all that convincing) &quot;but what about the GIFT&quot; argument: how about a new theorem and acronym to encapsulate how the long-term use of an internet name, coupled with responsible and coherent behavior, leads to bona fide identity?

I hereby propose NICK: &#039;Nym + Years + Consistency = Kudos. 

The NICK theorem to refute the poisoned GIFT... ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apropos of &#8216;nyms online and the usual (and not all that convincing) &#8220;but what about the GIFT&#8221; argument: how about a new theorem and acronym to encapsulate how the long-term use of an internet name, coupled with responsible and coherent behavior, leads to bona fide identity?</p>
<p>I hereby propose NICK: &#8216;Nym + Years + Consistency = Kudos. </p>
<p>The NICK theorem to refute the poisoned GIFT&#8230; ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Tuzzio</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1195245</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Tuzzio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll invite you and anyone else who can put a period between my first and last name and then add an &quot;@gmail.com&quot; to the end of it.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll invite you and anyone else who can put a period between my first and last name and then add an &#8220;@gmail.com&#8221; to the end of it.  </p>
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		<title>By: MDwebguy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/08/22/dispatch-from-the-nymwars-pseudonyms-and-science.html#comment-1195240</link>
		<dc:creator>MDwebguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If some kind and thoughtful person would only send me an invite for Google+ I will promise to come up with a more entertaining screen name than Frankly Scarlett.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If some kind and thoughtful person would only send me an invite for Google+ I will promise to come up with a more entertaining screen name than Frankly Scarlett.</p>
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