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	<title>Comments on: Futures Impossible : a new methodology to study world&#160;events</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/09/15/futures-impossible-a-new-methodology-to-study-world-events.html#comment-1217238</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The RV bit put me for a loop too, but I came around after reading some of the comments, especially since I had just been looking at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thing_%28listening_device%29

A passive/driven listening device invented by Leon Theremin, Soviet inventor of the surf rock/50&#039;s B movie musical instrument (the theremin).  Not quite remote viewing, but with the right device it&#039;s remote listening and I doubt many people were pointing to Leon Theremin as an inventor of spy apparata.

So in other words maybe remote viewing isn&#039;t a realistic concern, but going by Clarke&#039;s law there are probably many possible technologies that look a whole lot like remote viewing.  In this view, it&#039;s worth asking what it would take to defend against RV as an indication of what it would take to defend against these other technologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The RV bit put me for a loop too, but I came around after reading some of the comments, especially since I had just been looking at this:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thing_%28listening_device%29" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thing_%28listening_device%29</a></p>
<p>A passive/driven listening device invented by Leon Theremin, Soviet inventor of the surf rock/50&#8242;s B movie musical instrument (the theremin).  Not quite remote viewing, but with the right device it&#8217;s remote listening and I doubt many people were pointing to Leon Theremin as an inventor of spy apparata.</p>
<p>So in other words maybe remote viewing isn&#8217;t a realistic concern, but going by Clarke&#8217;s law there are probably many possible technologies that look a whole lot like remote viewing.  In this view, it&#8217;s worth asking what it would take to defend against RV as an indication of what it would take to defend against these other technologies.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm, why should we believe that the &quot;psi research community&quot; is not itself &quot;untrustworthy and nominally fraudulent&quot;?

In other words, citation needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, why should we believe that the &#8220;psi research community&#8221; is not itself &#8220;untrustworthy and nominally fraudulent&#8221;?</p>
<p>In other words, citation needed.</p>
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		<title>By: William Stanton Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Stanton Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting approach and one worth further study. The value of developing scenarios for possible as well as impossible events is to build  intellectual muscle. In fact the more &quot;impossible&quot; an event the better it serves as a builder of these forecasting skills. The process of considering the impossible serves as a way to avoid &quot;breathing our own fumes&quot;, i.e., becoming so self satisfied that we stop accepting new and potentially upsetting information.  From my own experience, when I dismiss ideas out of hand, ridicule them and refuse to even discuss the ideas, I realize that I am very far from scientific or rational. In fact when I behave this way I have learned, as an antidote, to ask the question,&quot;what am I afraid of and why&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting approach and one worth further study. The value of developing scenarios for possible as well as impossible events is to build  intellectual muscle. In fact the more &#8220;impossible&#8221; an event the better it serves as a builder of these forecasting skills. The process of considering the impossible serves as a way to avoid &#8220;breathing our own fumes&#8221;, i.e., becoming so self satisfied that we stop accepting new and potentially upsetting information.  From my own experience, when I dismiss ideas out of hand, ridicule them and refuse to even discuss the ideas, I realize that I am very far from scientific or rational. In fact when I behave this way I have learned, as an antidote, to ask the question,&#8221;what am I afraid of and why&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan McPherson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan McPherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 00:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post reflects a point of view that&#039;s so misinformed... I&#039;m not even sure where to start.

However, you could start actually researching the actual IC with either one of these helpful resources:

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/index.html

http://www.loyola.edu/departments/academics/political-science/strategic-intelligence/index.html 

http://library.columbia.edu/indiv/lehman/guides/intell.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post reflects a point of view that&#8217;s so misinformed&#8230; I&#8217;m not even sure where to start.</p>
<p>However, you could start actually researching the actual IC with either one of these helpful resources:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/index.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/index.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.loyola.edu/departments/academics/political-science/strategic-intelligence/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.loyola.edu/departments/academics/political-science/strategic-intelligence/index.html</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://library.columbia.edu/indiv/lehman/guides/intell.html" rel="nofollow">http://library.columbia.edu/indiv/lehman/guides/intell.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Duncan McPherson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/09/15/futures-impossible-a-new-methodology-to-study-world-events.html#comment-1216311</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan McPherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 00:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, John! If someone were to come up with a technology that effectively delivered the benefits of remote viewing (without the woo), then any scenarios that accounted for RV would have direct applicability.

Seems too far fetched? This &quot;ancient&quot; (2008) web article points at delivering images directly from the brain to a computer screen, something that was considered science fiction (bad science fiction, at that) in the not-too-distant 1980s: http://www.physorg.com/news148193433.html

Okay, okay... you want something practical. In the 1990s, say, an invisibility cloak would have seemed like a silly thing to consider when designing future strategies. Fast forward to 2010, and we&#039;re tantalizingly close to having a practical invisibility cloak (http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Weekend/scientists-step-closer-real-invisibility-cloak/story?id=10155543)... all science, no woo. The futurist&#039;s contingency for this sort of emergent tech would certainly come in handy, now wouldn&#039;t it?

The point is, developing contingencies for things that seem to be in the realm of fantasy _now_ is exactly part of the futurist&#039;s job. We, as a species, have an interesting tendency to make fantastic things _real_ in one way or another... so long as we don&#039;t get too comfortable with our assumptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, John! If someone were to come up with a technology that effectively delivered the benefits of remote viewing (without the woo), then any scenarios that accounted for RV would have direct applicability.</p>
<p>Seems too far fetched? This &#8220;ancient&#8221; (2008) web article points at delivering images directly from the brain to a computer screen, something that was considered science fiction (bad science fiction, at that) in the not-too-distant 1980s: <a href="http://www.physorg.com/news148193433.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.physorg.com/news148193433.html</a></p>
<p>Okay, okay&#8230; you want something practical. In the 1990s, say, an invisibility cloak would have seemed like a silly thing to consider when designing future strategies. Fast forward to 2010, and we&#8217;re tantalizingly close to having a practical invisibility cloak (<a href="http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Weekend/scientists-step-closer-real-invisibility-cloak/story?id=10155543" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Weekend/scientists-step-closer-real-invisibility-cloak/story?id=10155543</a>)&#8230; all science, no woo. The futurist&#8217;s contingency for this sort of emergent tech would certainly come in handy, now wouldn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>The point is, developing contingencies for things that seem to be in the realm of fantasy _now_ is exactly part of the futurist&#8217;s job. We, as a species, have an interesting tendency to make fantastic things _real_ in one way or another&#8230; so long as we don&#8217;t get too comfortable with our assumptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Nordquist</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/09/15/futures-impossible-a-new-methodology-to-study-world-events.html#comment-1216309</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Nordquist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 00:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, will you be writing a series of plays to be discussed as versions of the same episode, or a slightly more meta alien invasion videogame? I don&#039;t get it. Is this newly fungible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, will you be writing a series of plays to be discussed as versions of the same episode, or a slightly more meta alien invasion videogame? I don&#8217;t get it. Is this newly fungible?</p>
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		<title>By: Jody Radzik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jody Radzik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 23:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s pretty much common knowledge in the psi research community that Randi and his &quot;challenge&quot; are untrustworthy and nominally fraudulent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty much common knowledge in the psi research community that Randi and his &#8220;challenge&#8221; are untrustworthy and nominally fraudulent.</p>
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		<title>By: Daen de Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daen de Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again, Fukushima was an avoidable disaster.  From the Wikipedia page on regulatory capture, Japanese examples [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture#Japanese_examples]:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Despite warnings about its safety, Japanese regulators from the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency approved a 10-year extension for the oldest of the sixreactors at Fukushima Daiichi just one month before a 9.0 magnitude earthquake and subsequent tsunami damaged reactors and caused a meltdown.&lt;/blockquote&gt;What makes Fukushima *not* a black swan (and, conversely, an avoidable disaster due to human greed and incompetence) is the fact that some people *did* prospectively predict that there was a problem.  That ineffective (and possibly corrupt) regulatory agencies did nothing to heed that advice does not take away the fact that *some people* identified problems with the site, thus breaking the third requirement for a black swan - because if their advice had been heeded in time, the accident would not have happened (and it was always going to be the case that there was going to be a large earthquake and tsunami).

And from the Wikipedia entry on remote viewing [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_viewing]:&lt;blockquote&gt;For the largest paranormal research institution, the James Randi Educational Foundation, out of all of the applicants who applied for the One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge, nobody has even passed the preliminary tests.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Sounds like a non-starter to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, Fukushima was an avoidable disaster.  From the Wikipedia page on regulatory capture, Japanese examples [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture#Japanese_examples]:</p>
<blockquote><p>Despite warnings about its safety, Japanese regulators from the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency approved a 10-year extension for the oldest of the sixreactors at Fukushima Daiichi just one month before a 9.0 magnitude earthquake and subsequent tsunami damaged reactors and caused a meltdown.</p></blockquote>
<p>What makes Fukushima *not* a black swan (and, conversely, an avoidable disaster due to human greed and incompetence) is the fact that some people *did* prospectively predict that there was a problem.  That ineffective (and possibly corrupt) regulatory agencies did nothing to heed that advice does not take away the fact that *some people* identified problems with the site, thus breaking the third requirement for a black swan &#8211; because if their advice had been heeded in time, the accident would not have happened (and it was always going to be the case that there was going to be a large earthquake and tsunami).</p>
<p>And from the Wikipedia entry on remote viewing [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_viewing]:<br />
<blockquote>For the largest paranormal research institution, the James Randi Educational Foundation, out of all of the applicants who applied for the One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge, nobody has even passed the preliminary tests.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sounds like a non-starter to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody Radzik</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/09/15/futures-impossible-a-new-methodology-to-study-world-events.html#comment-1215111</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody Radzik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks have so much investment in keeping possibility tied to their personal world view. While I&#039;m more skeptical than your average woo-woo bunny, I&#039;ve been close enough to the work of Jacques, Dr. Ed May, Dr. Jeff Kripal, and others to have ascertained that at the very least, weird shit happens all the time that just won&#039;t get stuffed into these small boxes some folks carry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks have so much investment in keeping possibility tied to their personal world view. While I&#8217;m more skeptical than your average woo-woo bunny, I&#8217;ve been close enough to the work of Jacques, Dr. Ed May, Dr. Jeff Kripal, and others to have ascertained that at the very least, weird shit happens all the time that just won&#8217;t get stuffed into these small boxes some folks carry.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Brotzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Brotzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe someone once said that if you eliminate what is impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the solution. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe someone once said that if you eliminate what is impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the solution. </p>
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		<title>By: mylesnyc</title>
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		<dc:creator>mylesnyc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t think of a better scenario for why gold has been behaving the way it has. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t think of a better scenario for why gold has been behaving the way it has. </p>
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		<title>By: Adam Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>apologies, but I don&#039;t see a method or methodology here. Correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but this is just 4 categories to place impossible futures in. In the article you call it a typology, which I think is more accurate, or maybe a taxonomy. If there is actually a method, would someone point it out to me. I&#039;d be very interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apologies, but I don&#8217;t see a method or methodology here. Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but this is just 4 categories to place impossible futures in. In the article you call it a typology, which I think is more accurate, or maybe a taxonomy. If there is actually a method, would someone point it out to me. I&#8217;d be very interested.</p>
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		<title>By: digi_owl</title>
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		<dc:creator>digi_owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the D example of remote viewing is an attempt at putting the improved airborne and orbital sensory systems into context. Remember, recent sats have found cities in the amazon, rivers in Sahara, and may well be able to read the layout -- and perhaps content -- of a building if the roof is not properly shielded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the D example of remote viewing is an attempt at putting the improved airborne and orbital sensory systems into context. Remember, recent sats have found cities in the amazon, rivers in Sahara, and may well be able to read the layout &#8212; and perhaps content &#8212; of a building if the roof is not properly shielded.</p>
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		<title>By: theo</title>
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		<dc:creator>theo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 07:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you RTFP [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=RTFP], you will see but a single link to here: http://iftf.org/ 

At the bottom of the home page for the site - which calls itself the &quot;Institute for the Future&quot; - you will note that the copyright notice is dated 2009.

Thus, some of you may be making hysterical remarks about the historical or vice versa...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you RTFP [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=RTFP], you will see but a single link to here: <a href="http://iftf.org/" rel="nofollow">http://iftf.org/</a> </p>
<p>At the bottom of the home page for the site &#8211; which calls itself the &#8220;Institute for the Future&#8221; &#8211; you will note that the copyright notice is dated 2009.</p>
<p>Thus, some of you may be making hysterical remarks about the historical or vice versa&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Frank W. Spencer IV</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank W. Spencer IV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 04:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... my major problem with this article has very little to do with considering the &quot;impossible,&quot; or creating new methods for more complex environments. Rather, that the lead-in makes a slew of inaccurate statements about the work of futurist tools, such as &quot;Such techniques for describing the future and anticipating its opportunities and dangers have largely become obsolete because of the acceleration of technology itself and the increasing vulnerability of our society to chaotic processes that are not well behaved under most classic models.&quot; The examples given in the article weren&#039;t wild cards or black swans in anyone&#039;s scenario? I can&#039;t begin to tell you how many times I have heard scenarios in the past for building too close to to barrier lands (close to water - New Orleans anyone, not to mention a nuclear power plant), how robotics and radar/ultrasound would be used to detect enemy fortresses, or how a real estate and corporate meltdown was imminent not long before it occurred. Granted, maybe those in charge of implementing these ideas did not listen, but to say that the methods no longer work? In reality, it&#039;s in the hands of the futurist(s) producing the scenarios as to how immersive and thought-provoking the pattern and sense-making is that gets created by these tools. Don&#039;t get me wrong, I&#039;m all for better and more innovative methods, and I look forward to this one (that is the point - a new method is on the way - right?) But if we want to look deeper into social, organizational, and global complexities, you failed to mention incredible tools for this kind of &quot;overlay&quot; such as Causal Layered Analysis, VERGE Ethnographic Scanning, Panarchy mapping (large-scale adaptive system mapping which points out that different layers of social, technological, and political life do not move at one large complex speed), or Spiral Dynamics, just to name a few (the last of which has been used widely to point toward reconciliation in Palestine, no less).

I truly love the work of IFTF, but some very broad strokes were painted here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; my major problem with this article has very little to do with considering the &#8220;impossible,&#8221; or creating new methods for more complex environments. Rather, that the lead-in makes a slew of inaccurate statements about the work of futurist tools, such as &#8220;Such techniques for describing the future and anticipating its opportunities and dangers have largely become obsolete because of the acceleration of technology itself and the increasing vulnerability of our society to chaotic processes that are not well behaved under most classic models.&#8221; The examples given in the article weren&#8217;t wild cards or black swans in anyone&#8217;s scenario? I can&#8217;t begin to tell you how many times I have heard scenarios in the past for building too close to to barrier lands (close to water &#8211; New Orleans anyone, not to mention a nuclear power plant), how robotics and radar/ultrasound would be used to detect enemy fortresses, or how a real estate and corporate meltdown was imminent not long before it occurred. Granted, maybe those in charge of implementing these ideas did not listen, but to say that the methods no longer work? In reality, it&#8217;s in the hands of the futurist(s) producing the scenarios as to how immersive and thought-provoking the pattern and sense-making is that gets created by these tools. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;m all for better and more innovative methods, and I look forward to this one (that is the point &#8211; a new method is on the way &#8211; right?) But if we want to look deeper into social, organizational, and global complexities, you failed to mention incredible tools for this kind of &#8220;overlay&#8221; such as Causal Layered Analysis, VERGE Ethnographic Scanning, Panarchy mapping (large-scale adaptive system mapping which points out that different layers of social, technological, and political life do not move at one large complex speed), or Spiral Dynamics, just to name a few (the last of which has been used widely to point toward reconciliation in Palestine, no less).</p>
<p>I truly love the work of IFTF, but some very broad strokes were painted here.</p>
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		<title>By: ben lidgus</title>
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		<dc:creator>ben lidgus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 02:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put @google-f421b28a24f33ff21a6b49e3c07c2182:disqus .  It doesn&#039;t matter whether any of the &quot;impossible&quot; things mentioned in the article come to pass.  The reality is that we as a species are encountering many events that we thought at one time were impossible.  It can&#039;t be bad to begin to develop a way of talking about things we can&#039;t predict.  Science can really move forward when someone lays out the groundwork to describe a new set of ideas. Future future thinkers can assimilate and then augment or discard these ideas.

About Fukishima not being a black swan; can we really say it was poor planning and bad management?  It seems to me to be a case of experts with incredible resources doing the best they can to eliminate or mitigate all threats and then being surprised about something &quot;impossible&quot; that they couldn&#039;t plan for.  If Fukishima isn&#039;t a black swan, how about 9/11? Global warming? The Titanic? The breaking of the curse of the Bambino by Boston in 2004?  In retrospect, the evidence was there for all these but something about our worldview/evidence gathering/smarts as a species wasn&#039;t up to snuff and they were impossible.  I look forward to seeing where others take this line of reasoning.

P.S. In reference to another comment in this thread, has RV been &quot;proven&quot; to be impossible? I don&#039;t &quot;Person A remote viewed Situation B&quot; is a disprovable statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put @google-f421b28a24f33ff21a6b49e3c07c2182:disqus .  It doesn&#8217;t matter whether any of the &#8220;impossible&#8221; things mentioned in the article come to pass.  The reality is that we as a species are encountering many events that we thought at one time were impossible.  It can&#8217;t be bad to begin to develop a way of talking about things we can&#8217;t predict.  Science can really move forward when someone lays out the groundwork to describe a new set of ideas. Future future thinkers can assimilate and then augment or discard these ideas.</p>
<p>About Fukishima not being a black swan; can we really say it was poor planning and bad management?  It seems to me to be a case of experts with incredible resources doing the best they can to eliminate or mitigate all threats and then being surprised about something &#8220;impossible&#8221; that they couldn&#8217;t plan for.  If Fukishima isn&#8217;t a black swan, how about 9/11? Global warming? The Titanic? The breaking of the curse of the Bambino by Boston in 2004?  In retrospect, the evidence was there for all these but something about our worldview/evidence gathering/smarts as a species wasn&#8217;t up to snuff and they were impossible.  I look forward to seeing where others take this line of reasoning.</p>
<p>P.S. In reference to another comment in this thread, has RV been &#8220;proven&#8221; to be impossible? I don&#8217;t &#8220;Person A remote viewed Situation B&#8221; is a disprovable statement.</p>
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		<title>By: PlaneShaper</title>
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		<dc:creator>PlaneShaper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 00:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one is going to be as successful at developing new methods (or methodologies or w/e) for predicting, detecting, and mitigating risks as the leader who is willing to spend at least twice as much of their available resources than the person in their organization with the greatest interest in short-term profits and corner cutting wants to allow towards risk management via classical techniques.

It&#039;s not that people are willy-nilly disregarding potential scenarios as impossible, it&#039;s that they&#039;re willing to disregard as many scenarios as they think they can get away with.  Come up with a technique that&#039;s twice as good at accurately predicting and mitigating risk for the same cost, and they&#039;ll simply spend half as much money on it...at best.  And that&#039;s my prediction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one is going to be as successful at developing new methods (or methodologies or w/e) for predicting, detecting, and mitigating risks as the leader who is willing to spend at least twice as much of their available resources than the person in their organization with the greatest interest in short-term profits and corner cutting wants to allow towards risk management via classical techniques.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that people are willy-nilly disregarding potential scenarios as impossible, it&#8217;s that they&#8217;re willing to disregard as many scenarios as they think they can get away with.  Come up with a technique that&#8217;s twice as good at accurately predicting and mitigating risk for the same cost, and they&#8217;ll simply spend half as much money on it&#8230;at best.  And that&#8217;s my prediction.</p>
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		<title>By: JakeHamilton</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/09/15/futures-impossible-a-new-methodology-to-study-world-events.html#comment-1214240</link>
		<dc:creator>JakeHamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 00:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good point; a method like this is definitely concerned with extending and refining the map of outlier events/observations that we can effectively analyze for their likelihood, implications, optimal response, and so forth. Further than that, though, it&#039;s also being proposed that this isn&#039;t just a technique for producing marginal gains in the efficiency of risk allocation; rather, it&#039;s an urgently necessary reaction to an inflationary burst in the growth and complexity of new data, novel phenomena, and changing models. Under those circumstances, the probability distribution across outcome-space is increasingly less confident, because we have access to a diminishing portion of relevant data, that we analyze with models that are increasingly likely to be inaccurate or wholly irrelevant at an arbitrary point in the future. 

So that means that we should expect (and I would argue are certainly experiencing) a growing incidence of events that would have been rationally rated low-probability, or not even considered, a given amount of time previously. The problem is that as our probability distribution flattens and spreads out, our overall allocation efficiency suffers, because our analytical tools are best at the center, where our models are reliable and our information complete. We don&#039;t have the requisite methods or concepts available to usefully evaluate, compare, and map many heterogeneous unlikely events.

It sounds somewhere between dry and alarmist, but I really find it pretty inspiring. In global practice and in theory, we&#039;re pushing the horizons into a faster, unlikelier world, where our understanding of the possible and the real transforms to fit a larger, more uncertain and chaotic domain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good point; a method like this is definitely concerned with extending and refining the map of outlier events/observations that we can effectively analyze for their likelihood, implications, optimal response, and so forth. Further than that, though, it&#8217;s also being proposed that this isn&#8217;t just a technique for producing marginal gains in the efficiency of risk allocation; rather, it&#8217;s an urgently necessary reaction to an inflationary burst in the growth and complexity of new data, novel phenomena, and changing models. Under those circumstances, the probability distribution across outcome-space is increasingly less confident, because we have access to a diminishing portion of relevant data, that we analyze with models that are increasingly likely to be inaccurate or wholly irrelevant at an arbitrary point in the future. </p>
<p>So that means that we should expect (and I would argue are certainly experiencing) a growing incidence of events that would have been rationally rated low-probability, or not even considered, a given amount of time previously. The problem is that as our probability distribution flattens and spreads out, our overall allocation efficiency suffers, because our analytical tools are best at the center, where our models are reliable and our information complete. We don&#8217;t have the requisite methods or concepts available to usefully evaluate, compare, and map many heterogeneous unlikely events.</p>
<p>It sounds somewhere between dry and alarmist, but I really find it pretty inspiring. In global practice and in theory, we&#8217;re pushing the horizons into a faster, unlikelier world, where our understanding of the possible and the real transforms to fit a larger, more uncertain and chaotic domain.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike McGarrity</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/09/15/futures-impossible-a-new-methodology-to-study-world-events.html#comment-1214220</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike McGarrity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 00:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer this one

Methodology: A pretentious way of saying &quot;method&quot;.

http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Research+methodology

The irony isn&#039;t lost on me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer this one</p>
<p>Methodology: A pretentious way of saying &#8220;method&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Research+methodology" rel="nofollow">http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Research+methodology</a></p>
<p>The irony isn&#8217;t lost on me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Pescovitz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/09/15/futures-impossible-a-new-methodology-to-study-world-events.html#comment-1214207</link>
		<dc:creator>David Pescovitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 00:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now my turn.

From Merriam-Webster, the first definition of methodology: &quot;a body of methods, rules, and postulates employed by a discipline : a particular procedure or set of procedures&quot;

Your definition is the second one.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/methodology</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now my turn.</p>
<p>From Merriam-Webster, the first definition of methodology: &#8220;a body of methods, rules, and postulates employed by a discipline : a particular procedure or set of procedures&#8221;</p>
<p>Your definition is the second one.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/methodology" rel="nofollow">http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/methodology</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike McGarrity</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/09/15/futures-impossible-a-new-methodology-to-study-world-events.html#comment-1214176</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike McGarrity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My turn to be a pedant. 

Methodology = The Study of Method.

A more accurate title would be &quot;A new method for studying world events&quot;.(Not that it actually matters that much).  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My turn to be a pedant. </p>
<p>Methodology = The Study of Method.</p>
<p>A more accurate title would be &#8220;A new method for studying world events&#8221;.(Not that it actually matters that much).  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: smaturin</title>
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		<dc:creator>smaturin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And just how many angels WILL fit on the head of a pin?</description>
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		<title>By: Karl Schroeder</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/09/15/futures-impossible-a-new-methodology-to-study-world-events.html#comment-1214157</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Schroeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, this article seems to be perpetuating a common but fundamental misunderstanding regarding foresight: that foresight is the same as prediction, or should be. A failure to predict a specific event is not a failure of foresight; only a failure to build resiliency that can cope with specific events is a failure of foresight. Prediction was never really possible, and in recent times it&#039;s become more obvious that it isn&#039;t. Some foresight practitioners have over the years dreamed of improving our ability to predict events, but as soon as one leaves the realm of trends and cyclic processes, it quickly becomes impossible. What foresight practitioners do is attempt to increase the resiliency of organizations like governments, meaning that when the inevitably unpredictable happens, we&#039;re not left unable to cope. There are many different methods and techniques for achieving this, but they all share the common understanding that the game is not about prediction. What this means is that building for resilience actually *is* the &quot;deeper grid&quot; that the authors talk about--and the only possible one in a world of radical unpredictability.

Anything else is snake oil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, this article seems to be perpetuating a common but fundamental misunderstanding regarding foresight: that foresight is the same as prediction, or should be. A failure to predict a specific event is not a failure of foresight; only a failure to build resiliency that can cope with specific events is a failure of foresight. Prediction was never really possible, and in recent times it&#8217;s become more obvious that it isn&#8217;t. Some foresight practitioners have over the years dreamed of improving our ability to predict events, but as soon as one leaves the realm of trends and cyclic processes, it quickly becomes impossible. What foresight practitioners do is attempt to increase the resiliency of organizations like governments, meaning that when the inevitably unpredictable happens, we&#8217;re not left unable to cope. There are many different methods and techniques for achieving this, but they all share the common understanding that the game is not about prediction. What this means is that building for resilience actually *is* the &#8220;deeper grid&#8221; that the authors talk about&#8211;and the only possible one in a world of radical unpredictability.</p>
<p>Anything else is snake oil.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Zaraat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Zaraat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d probably use the term &quot;extremely unlikely&quot; instead of &quot;proven impossible&quot; with regards to remote viewing.

For all I know there might be a way to remotely spy on people via quantum entanglement or from a topologically higher dimension. 

I can&#039;t think of a way to flat out disprove either of those possibilities, but I&#039;m not a scientist.

I wouldn&#039;t hold my breath waiting for someone to actually demonstrate these phenomena, either.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d probably use the term &#8220;extremely unlikely&#8221; instead of &#8220;proven impossible&#8221; with regards to remote viewing.</p>
<p>For all I know there might be a way to remotely spy on people via quantum entanglement or from a topologically higher dimension. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t think of a way to flat out disprove either of those possibilities, but I&#8217;m not a scientist.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t hold my breath waiting for someone to actually demonstrate these phenomena, either.</p>
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		<title>By: daen</title>
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		<dc:creator>daen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Taleb:&lt;blockquote&gt;What we call here a Black Swan (and capitalize it) is an event with the following three attributes. First, it is an outlier, as it lies outside the realm of regular expectations, because nothing in the past can convincingly point to its possibility. Second, it carries an extreme impact. Third, in spite of its outlier status, human nature makes us concoct explanations for its occurrence after the fact, making it explainable and predictable.I stop and summarize the triplet: rarity, extreme impact, and &lt;b&gt;retrospective (though not prospective) predictability&lt;/b&gt;. A small number of Black Swans explains almost everything in our world, from the success of ideas and religions, to the dynamics of historical events, to elements of our own personal lives.&lt;/blockquote&gt;He absolutely emphasizes the lack of prospective predictability here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Taleb:<br />
<blockquote>What we call here a Black Swan (and capitalize it) is an event with the following three attributes. First, it is an outlier, as it lies outside the realm of regular expectations, because nothing in the past can convincingly point to its possibility. Second, it carries an extreme impact. Third, in spite of its outlier status, human nature makes us concoct explanations for its occurrence after the fact, making it explainable and predictable.I stop and summarize the triplet: rarity, extreme impact, and <b>retrospective (though not prospective) predictability</b>. A small number of Black Swans explains almost everything in our world, from the success of ideas and religions, to the dynamics of historical events, to elements of our own personal lives.</p></blockquote>
<p>He absolutely emphasizes the lack of prospective predictability here.</p>
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		<title>By: BillGlover</title>
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		<dc:creator>BillGlover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your argument, and if we restrict the models to only influencing where we place our bets for outliers, I think I can agree it&#039;s a reasonable and useful effort. So spending some discretionary resources on thought experiments on counter measures against remote viewing or security leaks by the reincarnated might be worthwhile even if only for, as you mentioned, the spillover benefits. I&#039;ll also grant that we can be sure our scientific models will change, sometimes in unexpected directions, but we will still be right, more often than not, by presuming that unlikely things are unlikely.

If we imagine a new model which takes into account how to allocate these outlier bets, haven&#039;t we just moved the boundary of what we think is likely? We are simply saying that based on a more sophisticated model, those outliers are more likely than the much larger set of outliers upon which we choose not to bet. Aren&#039;t we?

I&#039;m not a philosopher or mathematician, so perhaps I&#039;m just putting too much stock in the analogies without understanding the complexities of the underlying ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your argument, and if we restrict the models to only influencing where we place our bets for outliers, I think I can agree it&#8217;s a reasonable and useful effort. So spending some discretionary resources on thought experiments on counter measures against remote viewing or security leaks by the reincarnated might be worthwhile even if only for, as you mentioned, the spillover benefits. I&#8217;ll also grant that we can be sure our scientific models will change, sometimes in unexpected directions, but we will still be right, more often than not, by presuming that unlikely things are unlikely.</p>
<p>If we imagine a new model which takes into account how to allocate these outlier bets, haven&#8217;t we just moved the boundary of what we think is likely? We are simply saying that based on a more sophisticated model, those outliers are more likely than the much larger set of outliers upon which we choose not to bet. Aren&#8217;t we?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a philosopher or mathematician, so perhaps I&#8217;m just putting too much stock in the analogies without understanding the complexities of the underlying ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: JakeHamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>JakeHamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My main objection is to the sort of muddled use of probability and possibility. The inductive probability of particular outcomes, given a heretofore-reliable model of the underlying system or trends, is an at least partially different dimension of variation than the &#039;deductive&#039; probability of outcomes that would force some degree of ad-hoc alteration to models that cannot accommodate their occurrence. Generally, it seems to me that the first step to developing a proper methodology of this kind would consist of tossing out the archaic assumption that single general definitions of broad concepts like &#039;possibility&#039; and &#039;probability&#039; are adequate to capture the analytical complexity of their fields.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My main objection is to the sort of muddled use of probability and possibility. The inductive probability of particular outcomes, given a heretofore-reliable model of the underlying system or trends, is an at least partially different dimension of variation than the &#8216;deductive&#8217; probability of outcomes that would force some degree of ad-hoc alteration to models that cannot accommodate their occurrence. Generally, it seems to me that the first step to developing a proper methodology of this kind would consist of tossing out the archaic assumption that single general definitions of broad concepts like &#8216;possibility&#8217; and &#8216;probability&#8217; are adequate to capture the analytical complexity of their fields.</p>
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		<title>By: KanedaJones</title>
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		<dc:creator>KanedaJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The entire history of the American Intelligence community is designed to evade the possibility of Remote Viewing.

Dosing of mental patients, staring at goats, prayer -- I&#039;d say they&#039;ve planned for that quite well.

--GimpWii</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire history of the American Intelligence community is designed to evade the possibility of Remote Viewing.</p>
<p>Dosing of mental patients, staring at goats, prayer &#8212; I&#8217;d say they&#8217;ve planned for that quite well.</p>
<p>&#8211;GimpWii</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Zaraat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Zaraat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least I refrained from adding sparkles and rainbows.</description>
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		<title>By: JakeHamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>JakeHamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with your allocation of resources scenario is that you&#039;re not taking into account a) spillover benefits or b) declining confidence in estimates of probability. The whole thrust, as I understood it, is that the confidence of weights derived from parsimonious inductive reasoning about future states of affairs or knowledge has declined precipitously with the increasing complexity, volume, and rate of change in available information in the contemporary era. If remote viewing made this all seem a bit woo-woo, consider how similar this is to Popper&#039;s critique of historicism (certainly a sober and skeptical thinker).

The point is that this entails an allocation of analytical resources more broadly distributed across the probability spectrum (which includes remote viewing and reincarnation, unless we granted current scientific models sacred doctrinal status while I wasn&#039;t looking), even more so because of the spillover and reinforcement benefits of training to immediately, effectively assimilate and respond to major, unforeseen disruptive events. The &#039;call to theorize&#039; being put forth is a statement to the effect that we need statistical and epistemological methods that are more robust and useful outside the center peak of high-comprehension, high-predictability outcomes.

Rough, but maybe useful analogies I&#039;d draw would be to paraconsistent logics and the thermodynamics of systems far from equilibrium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with your allocation of resources scenario is that you&#8217;re not taking into account a) spillover benefits or b) declining confidence in estimates of probability. The whole thrust, as I understood it, is that the confidence of weights derived from parsimonious inductive reasoning about future states of affairs or knowledge has declined precipitously with the increasing complexity, volume, and rate of change in available information in the contemporary era. If remote viewing made this all seem a bit woo-woo, consider how similar this is to Popper&#8217;s critique of historicism (certainly a sober and skeptical thinker).</p>
<p>The point is that this entails an allocation of analytical resources more broadly distributed across the probability spectrum (which includes remote viewing and reincarnation, unless we granted current scientific models sacred doctrinal status while I wasn&#8217;t looking), even more so because of the spillover and reinforcement benefits of training to immediately, effectively assimilate and respond to major, unforeseen disruptive events. The &#8216;call to theorize&#8217; being put forth is a statement to the effect that we need statistical and epistemological methods that are more robust and useful outside the center peak of high-comprehension, high-predictability outcomes.</p>
<p>Rough, but maybe useful analogies I&#8217;d draw would be to paraconsistent logics and the thermodynamics of systems far from equilibrium.</p>
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