Barista's "Starbucks Rant" song gets him fired

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  1. Tarliman says:

    Events like this are why the IWW is organizing at Starbucks. You have the right to bitch about your job. Any employer who can’t stand derision from their employees should and must be driven out of business.

    • Lobster says:

      Employees do have a right to bitch about their job.  They do not have a right to freedom from the consequences of that choice, and their job itself is not a right.  That’s what happens when you bite the hand that feeds you.

      • fruityboots says:

        Actually a JOB is a RIGHT.
        In fact, the right to a job is a matter of law—and has been for 62
        years!

        http://www.workers.org/2008/us/a_job_is_a_right_0417/

        • Lobster says:

          Yep.  You do have the right to have a job.  You just don’t have the right to have any job you choose without the employer’s consent.

        • wizardru says:

          “In fact, the right to a job is a matter of law—and has been for 62
          years!”

          I think you need to actually read those laws.  The 1946 act basically requires the formation of an advisory group on the economy and an annual report of suggestions from the president.  The 1978 bill suggests that the president and congress ‘work toward’ full employment…and creating temporary government jobs to do it.  But the only actual requirement the law has is some administrative requirements of again forming councils, publishing papers and now the president needs to release a fiscal plan…which he has no actual power to enact.

          None of which constitutes a RIGHT to a job…merely a desire to see that everyone who wants to be employed can be.  “Full Employment” is the jobs-market equivalent of “world-peace”.

    • Bottle Imp says:

      Doesn’t sound like he’s deriding Starbucks so much as their customer base. They’re a service company. They make money on the image that Starbucks employees are helpful and friendly while they make you your coffee. This guy didn’t attack Starbucks directly, he attacked the class of people who go to Starbucks (who, according to friends who’ve worked at Starbucks are awful tippers). Sure, as employees we all do it. I used to bitch constantly to co-workers about customers. But I never posted a video online where I begin a verse of complaint with “If I have to serve another latino…”

      I’m glad IWW is involved with Starbucks on things like recognizing MLK day. But I have a hard time saying that this is something IWW should get all over.

    • DonnyB2 says:

      And in your perfect-world-everybody-belongs-to-a-union, Starbucks costs even more than it does now, and the baristas are free to complain about customers directly to their face.  Then gee, I wonder why nobody goes there anymore?

  2. mappo says:

    Louis CK has an excellent response rant:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl5vihsERDw

    • samovar100 says:

      That’s a great bit!  Thanks for the link, mappo

    • Ed Ligget. Tuba. says:

      Funny, and I love Louis CK, however, we don’t know that this guy didn’t do his job well.  I “did the shit out of” every job I have had in life, from dish washer at 19 to prepress technician at 35.  Doesn’t mean I didn’t hate some of those jobs.  (And in point of fact, I hated the prepress tech job and didn’t really mind the dishwashing job.  :D  )

  3. Conspirator says:

    Frankly, he knew what he was doing and that it would lead to this and how can anyone be surprised by the outcome?  He wore the apron and he mentioned the company.  Had he just said he worked in a coffee shop it wouldn’t be so bad.

    This is quite different from the guy who worked at Best Buy and made the video about people wanting an iphone just because it was an iphone.  In that case there was nothing readily identifying the employee or his employer.  That kind of stuff should be ok.  

  4. Guest says:

    Pretty much the lament of all those who interface with the public in the food service industry.  Please be nice to them and leave a tip, dammit!

  5. hughstimson says:

    Here we go with all the “he should have known better” comments.

    Perhaps he should have. Or perhaps not, the line between your professional life and your off-duty life is confusing now that the media you produce for your on-line community can very occasionally cross over.

    Regardless, I think employees *should* be able to produce creative critique of their work lives. Just because someone pays you minimum wage shouldn’t mean they can decide what you say in your time off.

    Obviously in this case Starbucks had the power to do so, and chose to exercise that power. But that doesn’t make it right.

    • Lobster says:

      It doesn’t make it right, but that’s the way the world works.  If I’m employed at someone’s pleasure, it is not in my interests to displease that person.  It’s dishonest, it’s soul-crushing and it’s unfair, but we live in an imperfect world and I can’t pay my mortgage with angst.

      Ultimately it’s the employer’s right to say, “if you don’t like coming to work, don’t come to work anymore. You’re welcome.”

      • Andrew Wood says:

        I think it’s right, though.  You just don’t slate your job, employer and customers on a public forum and expect to be allowed to continue.  

        What happens when a latino who’s seen this comes in and orders a frappuccino from this idiot?  

    • semiotix says:

      Here we go with all the “he should have known better” comments.

      But he really should have known better! That’s actually important!

      Someone upthread mentioned the Wobblies trying to organize Starbucks. Good for them! But no labor union in the world, past present or future, would go to bat for an employee who did this. 

      For that matter, every adorable struggling local mom-and-pop neighborhood coffeeshop in the world would have fired this guy, too.

    • missourimedic says:

      The thing is, he wasn’t criticizing Starbucks… he was criticizing the customers. Big difference, and they were 100% justified in firing him.  Any idiot knows that when you dress up in your company’s uniform and publicly insult your patrons, you are begging to be fired.

  6. Sarah Wells says:

    I always order a regular coffee.   I hope I am safe from barrista wrath.

    • Guest says:

      As a former barista and lover of triple-shot Americanos and double shot Red Eyes, I think if you order politely, tip generously and say thank you, you’re good. :)

    • Aphotic says:

      You’re not, well at a real coffee haus. You’ll need to add a double shot to that and tip $2 just to be safe. Just to be…

  7. samovar100 says:

    Welcome to working with the public, kid.  And put a damn shirt on!

  8. Dani4a says:

    Ok, he’s complaining about things like making sandwiches and adding an extra shot of espresso to a latte. Are those unreasonable requests? I did several years in food service. I’ve experienced horrible customers, and I’ve seen awful people at Starbucks. But I fail to see how serving a Latino a caramel frapuccino or giving a rich white lady skim milk is actually something that inconveniences him. 

    He has the right to complain about his job, but when he readily identifies his employer, the employer has a right to fire him. And the fact that he’s a whiney douchebag makes me a little less inclined to sympathize with him.

    • hughstimson says:

      Whiney douchebag?

      He wrote a funny calling out some nominally frustrating things about his job. Where I come from that sort of act can be positive catharsis. It’s not clear to me that this wouldn’t actually be good for barista morale.

      • Dani4a says:

        “Nominally frustrating things about his job” being serving latinos and fat people?

      • Andrew Wood says:

        It’s not good for customer engagement though, is it?

        • hughstimson says:

          “It’s not good for customer engagement though, is it?”

          Depends on whether customers have a sense of humour, and an understanding of (forgive me) “how the world works”.

          I don’t suppose Starbucks customers think their baristas have no personal or creative life, or any passing frustrations. I don’t imagine many will be shocked to learn that they do.

          I wouldn’t expect Starbucks customers to take this song at face value. Most people can recognize a joke (although this comment thread is making me wonder).

          There seems to be some confusion here between following the rules and virtue.

    • Guest says:

      Yeah, after watching it, I thought : ‘First world problems’… and ‘whiny d-bag’.

      I mean, it had sexism, racism, and fat-shaming all in one little ditty! Wow! /s

      Really stupid to mention the company name. Stuuupid.

  9. holyalmost says:

    I don’t understand his reasoning: “I saw this as the only way those of us on the lowest rungs of the ladder can make any changes.”

    Changes like getting latinos to stop buying double caramel frappachinos?

    • Lobster says:

      If the jobs on the lowest rungs were fulfilling, interesting and fun, they wouldn’t be on the lowest rungs.  There’s a reason Starbucks hires teens and kids fresh out of college to be baristas; it’s unpleasant work that requires very little skill or knowledge.  Your employer is not your parent, and a paycheck is not allowance.

      • Guest says:

        ‘Little skill or knowledge’, eh?

        http://worldbaristachampionship.com/

        Nice classism and elitism you got going on, there. /s

        • CastanhasDoPara says:

          That’s all well and good but how many of say even the top 1000 baristas in the world work at a flippin’ starbucks. My completely non-fact based assertion is NONE. I mean I’m sure it’s possible that at least a few work FOR starbucks but none work at any old starbucks.

          Also that’s not to say that all regular starbucks baristas are untrained or unskilled, many are, but the level of skill most have or learn is nowhere near that required to be an olympic level coffee preparer. Because if they did have those skills/talent they would be utter morons to work at a starbucks for near minimum wage and paltry tips. Your argument is as weak and overwrought as coffee from starbucks.

  10. autark says:

    10 to 1 this is some kind of viral ad campaign… waiting for it.

    • Teller says:

      Like your cynicism – but I’m betting not an undercover viral. Social media is a big deal to corps like Starbucks and this one doesn’t have the fun, grassrootsy vibe they look for, imo.

  11. thepolishpen says:

    If you think this dude shouldn’t have been fired for naming his employer and then wearing the uniform, you also “don’t know how the world works.” At this point this kid is double ignorant: he made a public rant about work — identifying his workplace — and then put that rant on the internet, where anyone his age, especially — if they know anything — knows that it could become widespread and that it’s there for ALL to see. 

    There needs to be a new course for all ages, but required for people under 30, called The Marketplace of Ideas in the 21st Century: Social Media, Your Reputation, and You.

    Also, a Starbucks employee is the least credible spokesperson for “wage slaves.” Starbucks employees get tips and even part time employees get health benefits (I’m pretty sure they still do). I’ve know many people who have worked at Starbucks and, yes, it sounds like it sucks. But like Louis CK said, “That’s why we gave [the job] to you.” Now “do the shit out of it.” You’ll be a better person for it.Having a service industry past myself, I was always courteous to Starbucks employees (even the inept-with-attitude) and I always tipped, even tough I only ever got a tall, black coffee. Then one day at the drive through, I received a tall cup of black coffee — the cups that had the big “YOU” on the side, and somone had written “SUCK.” It was the first time I ever spoke to a manager at Starbucks and I haven’t gone back since.

    • Cowicide says:

      Also, a Starbucks employee is the least credible spokesperson for “wage slaves.” Starbucks employees get tips and even part time employees get health benefits (I’m pretty sure they still do).

      You conveniently leave out the actual low wage that’s paid.  Also, how sick employees will be worked to death under threat of losing said health benefits. The benefits are often used as a stick and carrot to force employees into bad situations that benefit the profits of the megalomanical CEO Howard Schultz at the expense of others.

      Then one day at the drive through, I received a tall cup of black coffee — the cups that had the big “YOU” on the side, and somone had written “SUCK.”

      That’s strange, never happened to me or anyone else I know… ever.  Maybe you could benefit from some more self-reflection?

  12. Andrew Wood says:

    He slapped his employer’s customers on a public forum.  Why should he keep his job?  Grow up.  If you can’t get a better job, you’d better learn to live with the one you’ve got.

    Oh, and it’s not funny, and surely he could have got dressed first?

    • Cowicide says:

      Oh, and it’s not funny

      I  thought it was funny.  Great, actually.

      surely he could have got dressed first?

      Hahaha… get off my lawn, whipper-snappers!

  13. David Llopis says:

    Racist Dooced in 3…2…

  14. No wonder they fired him. Who wants to be associated with such lack of talent. Dressing up a disgruntled and obscene opinion with a tune does not make a song. Maybe someone out there can write something of value to make this statement, but this ain’t it

  15. bcsizemo says:

    Apparently I’m one of the few people who reads through all that fine print they make you sign when you get a job at a big company.  I bet there is a line or clause that says he is not allowed to slander the company in anyway, and his life/actions outside of the company can be a reflection on the company if he is acting in a way that represents them…

    So in this case, yes, he screwed up and should be punished.
    I worked for Dell, but no where on the internet did I slander them or say how much my job sucked, even if it did.

  16. bcsizemo says:

    Tipping…  seriously.

    I’m not tipping a person behind the counter, whose job it is to take/make my order.  That’s their job.  No one tipped me when I was a cashier or bagger at a grocery store.  (Well maybe if I went the extra mile and loaded bags into the car for an old lady while it was pouring down rain, but that was like twice a year.)

    I’m already paying for overpriced burnt coffee…I don’t think I need to leave you some extra for pretending to be courteous to me.  Besides I go to the local coffee shop now, where they really are friendly.  (And from time to time I might tip.)

    • Cowicide says:

      I’m already paying for overpriced burnt coffee..

      Do you do this while wearing a gimp outfit?

      http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kp7ephNQFH1qz9a1do1_500.jpg

      • bcsizemo says:

        I’m not a coffee person so much, so I just go by generalities.  Compared to the local coffee house/chain much of Starbucks coffee taste like it’s very heavy on the roast.

        But I admit I’m not a good judge of excellent coffee.  I just know I prefer the cheaper coffee that I get from the local shop which tastes better to me.  To each their own.

        • Cowicide says:

          I was just teasing you.  The way you worded it earlier, it sounded like you go out of your way to pay more money for burnt coffee like any good gimp looking for punishment would do.

          Plus, if you think the coffee is burnt you should return it and they give you another one from a different batch and even probably a coupon for a free purchase next time.

          I admit I’m not a great judge of coffee either and I tend to prefer local shops not really because of the taste of the coffee itself, but more because it supports local shops and I usually enjoy local flavor over corporate conformity.

          Nonetheless, I often go to Starbucks when I need coffee and wifi.  Some of my favorite local coffee shops have sketchy, very slow wifi and that’s frustrating when I’ve got work to do in a pinch.

          • bcsizemo says:

            Return it?  Maybe if it wasn’t what I ordered…maybe.  Considering my ability to actually make a decent cup of coffee is about 2/10, then whatever they serve me is probably a whole lot better than I could make for myself.  Besides I don’t drink much coffee, at most once a week.

    • Lobster says:

      Right, and I don’t tip at buffets either.  Tips are for good service.  Allowing me to patronize the establishment is not service.  Handing me the item I purchased is not service.  If it is, then let me go back there and get it myself.

      • Navin_Johnson says:

        You sound like the kind of guy who probably perpetuates poor service.  You come into a place with an arrogant attitude and wonder why the staff isn’t friendly to you.  That only reinforces your notions of them being “unskilled” or shitty workers.

        “Oh great, I have to take time away from my nice tipping customers to deal with lobster guy again…..”

        • Cowicide says:

          Haha… agreed…

        • Lobster says:

          Umm… is it wrong to suggest that someone with no training, no experience and no higher education is usually unskilled?  There’s no shame in that.  We all start out there, and then we get experience, we get training, we get education, and we move up.  I’m actually extremely polite to waiters and cashiers because I know their job is rough.  When they provide a service – as in the case of a waiter – and do a good job of it, I tip generously.  When they provide a service and do a lousy job of it, I still tip, just not as much. 

          If it’s arrogant of me to think that a tip (and a good job) should be earned then yes, I am arrogant.  That’s how the world works.  It doesn’t care about your self-esteem or sense of entitlement.

          • Cowicide says:

            I’m actually extremely polite to waiters and cashiers

            Extremely polite?  What’s that like?  Sounds creepy and uptight. How about trying to treat them like anyone else? You know, like normal people? Equals?

            :D

          • samovar100 says:

            One thing that I noticed about YOU, Cowcide, is your constant berating of other commentators.
            It’s like you’re always desperately trying to prove some kind of intellectual and moral superiority.
            I grow weary of your childishness.

            Hint:  Find some gainful employment.

          • Cowicide says:

            One thing that I noticed about YOU, Cowcide, is your constant beautification of other commentators. You’re always proving some kind of intellectual and moral superiority and that’s amazing. I grow horny from your words. Hint:  Find some gainful vacation.

            Since switch to Disqus:
            286 comments 911 likes received

            Bout time I got me some haters!  Thank you!

            [language nsfw]
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7z_ztMxBgk

          • Antinous / Moderator says:

            Cow,

            I have more likes than anyone. That has to say something about the meaninglessness of the Like system.

          • Cowicide says:

            I have more likes than anyone. That has to say something about the meaninglessness of the Like system.

            And I think that says something about your poor self-esteem.  Dammit, Antinous!!  Won’t you realize we love you, man?!?! (I clicked your Like button yet again)

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DIETlxquzY

          • samovar100 says:

            You’re very welcome, Sir :)

            But in all fairness, your annoying agenda doesn’t hold a candle to DoctressJulia

            Sorry.

          • Lobster says:

            That’s generally how I treat people, including close friends.  Is that wrong of me?  Is it degrading show people courtesy?  I joke with them, I thank them, if they’re wearing a nametag I call them by name…  Is that disrespectful?

          • Guest says:

            Ugh, I HATE nametags. What are we, pets? It makes my skin crawl when a stranger calls me by name and I haven’t given it to them. Do I get to call them by their name? Not usually. It’s just another way they can treat you like you are lesser than them.

          • Lobster says:

            Julia, if someone’s wearing a nametag it’s not because I demanded it.  I don’t call them by their name because I think they’re a pet or I want to assert control over them, I do it because they’re a human being with a name and by some means I have learned that name.  If they want to know my name I’ll give it readily and if they don’t have a nametag but introduce themselves then I’ll use that name too. 

            Is there ANYTHING I can possibly say that isn’t the absolute most monstrous thing to do?  Even if I’m doing it wrong, can you at least grant me that I’m TRYING to treat them like people?

          • Navin_Johnson says:

            It doesn’t care about your self-esteem or sense of entitlement.

            Reading the tone of your posts I’m getting the feeling that you’re the one with sense of entitlement and everybody else is probably just trying to get through dealing with you.

        • Guest says:

          Yes, TOTALLY. lol

    • Guest says:

      You’re the kind of person service industry workers despise. Really, they hate you.

      • bcsizemo says:

        Really?  They hate me because I treat them with respect, don’t yell at them, or feel like it has always got to be my way?  Naw, they must hate me because I don’t tip them for doing their job…

        Give me a reason to tip you besides doing what you are paid to do and I might consider it.  Now I certainly tip servers/waitstaff, but it’s rare I tip people behind the counter.

        Trust me when I was on the other side of that counter I was polite, and got yelled at, and in general treated everyone with respect.  I’ve even managed a retail store before, and if you can’t treat my employees or me with a little self respect I had no problems telling a customer to leave.

        • Guest says:

          You can’t swing a one dollar bill every time you order a drink?

          I understand if they are assholes to you (and you should complain), but what if they’re not adequately grateful? I see that shit all the time; customers expecting to be fawned over… :/

          Nobody in the service industry gets paid to do what they do. That’s why they are tipped. The customers pay most of their wages.  Would it kill you to give them a buck?

          • penguinchris says:

            Depending on what you order, a drink straight off the menu (nothing extra) at Starbucks can cost you $4-6. Would it kill us to give them a buck as a tip? No, but… that’s ridiculously expensive to start with, and if it was considered socially essential to tip, I would just never go (I don’t actually ever go to Starbucks as I’m not a big coffee person, unless someone drags me there).

            Would it be better, in your mind, for people who don’t think it’s necessary to tip at a coffee shop (excepting some unusually excellent service) to simply not come at all? We’re spending our own hard-earned money on a drink that can’t cost more than $0.50-1.00 to make (allowing for exotic ingredients, *and* the employee’s time).

            So we’re already paying an extra $3-4 as the cost of having them provide this service instead of making the drink ourselves.

          • thepolishpen says:

            Yes, they do get paid. Tips are taxed like income. When a person is paying for something they should get what they pay for. Starbucks is flippin’ expensive. And the servers (SERVERS) should be at least personable so as to attract return customers so they can get more and better tips. No one is expecting to be fawned over — at least I hope not.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn9nnOkASDg

    • Jennifer Moore says:

      starbucks pools their tips and distributes them evenly amongst the employees. you aren’t tipping the cashier, you’re tipping everyone working that day, including the person making your drink and the person cleaning the dishes in the back room

  17. OneDunya says:

    Working with people is very challenging especially in such a fast paced place like Starbucks. When I go to Starbucks I always feel sorry for the barristas but most of them manage to be polite. 

    • Lobster says:

      If you think working as a barista at Starbucks is fast-paced and challenging, try dealing Blackjack at a casino.

      • Navin_Johnson says:

        Quite a random apples and oranges comparison…

      • Guest says:

        Have you ever been a barista or a Blackjack dealer?

        • Lobster says:

          I have been a cashier and a blackjack dealer, and while I do not dispute that it is possible to be a proud, excellent and professional barista (and there is no shame in that), none of the baristas I’ve ever known (of which there have been several) intended to make a career of it.  They were all just looking for summer jobs, or to work through university.

          I don’t think it’s classist or elitist of me to acknowledge that, and I would ask you, respectfully, to stop making so many assumptions about me and about others.  Calling me a jerk is not going to foster any sort of conversation here.

  18. BBNinja says:

    I never got a single tip when I worked as a fast food cook for minimum wages.  So…why the hell would I tip someone making coffee for more than minimum wage?

    • Navin_Johnson says:

      Maybe you should have pushed for a tip jar or fairer wages.

    • Guest says:

      There are even crappier jobs than those that come with tips.

      I tip because wages (even slightly above minimum wage) are not rising as fast as the prices of rent, transportation, insurance, food and tuition.  They are providing a service I could easily do myself.  The tip is in gratitude for not having to, and a little extra for the smile, humor and cheerfulness.

    • Guest says:

      You should have been tipped out. Each server should have given you at LEAST ten percent of their tips. You got ripped off (IMO). Really, that sounds just unfair. :(

      But, it isn’t fair (nor is it kind!) to not tip others because you got screwed. Reminds me of a certain anti-union sentiment I hear a lot, given my geolocation… “If I can’t have those things, why should THEY get them?” :/

  19. fancypantsmemaw says:

    He admits to doing a bad job in his song when he admits to not giving the customer what they order. He’s wearing the apron over his underwear in “public”. Those are reasons enough to get fired, aren’t they?

    This would have been cool if he posted it on the day he walked out of his job, but for him to expect to go in to work the next day?! 

  20. fancypantsmemaw says:

    He admits to doing a bad job in his song when he admits to not giving the customer what they order. He’s wearing the apron over his underwear in “public”. Those are reasons enough to get fired, aren’t they?

    This would have been cool if he posted it on the day he walked out of his job, but for him to expect to go in to work the next day?! 

  21. Cowicide says:

    I nominate this Concern Troll Thread of the Year

    My God, you people need to lighten up a little, the video was a joke and you guys are picking it apart to determine whether “he does a good or bad job” based on joke lyrics?  Don’t you folks have better targets out there for your angst?

    Now, head on out to a Starbucks and act like abusive control freaks to the employees there; I’m sure you will all feel much better afterwards.

  22. Cowicide says:

    One thing I note about people I’m hanging with offline is how they treat service people.  It’s a good barometer of what kind of people they are.  This thread is pretty telling, some of you posters are real uptight dicks.

    http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz191/poundedclown/spicoli2.jpg

  23. bargainoutlet says:

    Definitely not a smart move but entertaining none the less.

  24. soubriquet says:

    Maybe some of his pissiness comes from the way in which Starbucks try to persuade their workers that they’re not mere servers of drinks in coffee-shops. Oh no, they’re “baristas”.
    (Am I the only person who finds that word ludicrous)
    I can understand the guy whining about the job, but, to be surprised when his employers aren’t keen to further employ a customer service worker who openly despises customers? Whilst wearing his Starbucks apron?
    What did he expect?

    • Ambiguity says:

      Oh no, they’re “baristas”. (Am I the only person who finds that word ludicrous)

      Almost everything about a modern coffee shop is ludicrous. When I order coffee (I don’t go t Starbucks because I think the coffee is bad, but it’s the same everywhere) I just can’t force myself to use the affected “tall” and “grande” etc. I use the more modern “medium.”

  25. bcsizemo says:

    Foamy has been railing again Star-schmucks for years…  :-)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcwAwTPX3IQ&feature=player_detailpage

  26. I spent two years and change working in a Starbucks. It’s by far not the worst job I’ve ever had, but I understand the kids frustration.

    My particular location had one customer who would call and threaten and curse us out every few weeks to claim that her order had been made wrong. Every few weeks. After a while, and making sure there was an extra dose of quality control when she came in the store, we told her we weren’t going to serve her anymore. She called a district manager, who then required we provide her with free product, because we’d told her not to come back. Two weeks later, another phone call, more threats.

    You can say, “that’s how the world works” and claim this kid has no right to complain and so forth, and I get that, but you’re essentially selling yours and our first amendment rights down the river at that point because your saying, “The government doesn’t have the right to sanction my speech, but these people, a company who has no responsibility to us as a society and no loyalty to our well being, they can sanction my speech, anytime they want.”

    Don’t complain about corporate campaign donations taking over elections and so forth, if you’re just going to bend over or kneel down at every opportunity your damn self. Have some self respect.

    • wizardru says:

      What speech was sanctioned?  His video is still on youtube.  It wasn’t taken down.  He has no guarantee of the right to keep his job after exercising his free speech…but that has NOTHING to do with the First Amendment.  Congress has not abridged his right to speak his mind.  Hell, Starbucks hasn’t even requested his video be removed or his follow-up video.  There’s no censorship going on here, just some whining.

    • Ted Brennan says:

      Anyone who has ever worked a customer service job has had to deal with bad customers. That is life, likewise everyone has dealt with people who should not work in customer service. Did he have a right to complain? Yeah. Does Starbucks have a right to fire him for making disparaging remarks about the clientele and implying that he intentionally messed up orders, and did not follow company policies. Yeah. 

      This isn’t about the government action or protected speech. The first amendment applies to Government not being able to arrest or sanction your speech. It does not protect you against due or undue social pressure or your own violation of contractual agreements that you might have made. 

    • heybebeh88 says:

      I can do you one better. I also used to work at Starbucks.  There was a lady who would come by and crap everywhere in the bathroom.  She didn’t use the bathroom everytime she was in, but I guarantee you, when she did, we’d have to close it and clean.

      All she bought was a large hot chocolate.  Not a really big loss if we ban her for shitting, right?

      Management wouldn’t let us ban her.  No, it was better to waste a half hour of my staff time cleaning up her excrement.  

      I got paid 8.40 an hour, so it was 4.20 to pay me to clean up after her, a hot chocolate costs less.

  27. nosehat says:

    I guess if that’s how he feels about his customers and the trials of his job, Starbucks did him a big favor by firing him?

    Even though this is probably meant to be light–just blowing off steam in a funny, creative way–there remains an undeniable vibe of whiny, self-entitled prick to this video.

    But we would react a lot differently if they guy were quitting his job, and this video was his open letter to Starbucks explaining his decision to quit.  If that were the case, this would be pure awesome.

  28. dw_funk says:

    It’s so nice to see everybody coming out to defend that poor, defenseless megacorporation.

  29. waetherman says:

    His song is mostly about how awful the customers are, and how miserable he is as a result. It does touch a little on how bad the products are when he makes them, substituting decaf for regular, and feces for whipped cream. And rather than keep his complaints private, he decided to make them very, very public. All in all, its pretty damaging to both Starbucks and his coworkers as well. I dont think he qualifies as some sort of whistle-blower, he’s just an asshole who needs to find a job that’s not in the service industry.

    I’m glad that Starucks encouraged him to find new opportunities; if I see this guy playing at an open mic night, I’ll give him a few bucks. But if I see him pulling shots at a Peet’s, I’d give him the finger and walk right out the door.

  30. Perizade says:

    Okay, I am in education and BOY could I tell you stories. However, if I did in a public way I totally would be fired. I feel bad for this guy because it does sound like a tough job.

  31. andygates says:

    Most everyone bitches about their jobs in public – in the pub, on the street.  Bitching and public space aren’t important and nor’s the kid’s talent.  The thing went viral, and the corporate immune system sneezed. 

    Now, can you be held responsible for putting something out that is aimed at your fifty netfriends, but which gets enjoyed by umpty-thousands?  That seems kinda harsh. 

  32. _Username says:

    To be honest i can not even pretend to be interested in this shirtless dweebs rant much less even waste 3  mins watching such bs videos…but I will say this that Dominatrix chix Doc Tress Julie or whatever she calls “herself” sure seems to enjoy getting rantified…maybe a little unwinding of pantys is in order

  33. The Ouroborus says:

    This is what happens when you skip your meds.

  34. Antinous / Moderator says:

    Imagine there’s no Starbucks.
    It’s easy if you try.

  35. nem0fazer says:

    Just came here to say Suport Your Local Independent Coffee Bar! I was in mine yesterday, Momento on fourth in Vancouver. Fantastic atmosphere. Staff and customers chat for ages. Everyone gets on. Its a bit like Cheers only with coffee instead of Beer.

    No. I’m not affiliated. Really. I just love good coffee and dislike the homogeneity of corporate coffee bars.

  36. elk says:

    I can’t believe this kid actually had the nerve to go back to work the next day, much less opting not to quit if it was so utterly painful an experience (which itself is laughable).

  37. sugarsails says:

    No joke about predicting people’s drinks by race though… I worked at a Starbucks in a B&N for a year.

    almost without fail:

    Asian people get hazelnut
    Hispanic people get caramel
    Black people get mocha
    White people get whatever’s advertised

    And when it rains you’d better put another pot of coffee on

  38. Tom Boucher says:

    Ouch. Hard to watch. I haven’t worked at Starbucks but I’ve been a housecleaner and in the Army and tried to find some dignity and peace, tried to make the best of a hard situation, which I hope brother Chris can generate. Otherwise? He might be in for a lonnnnnnnng hard life of disappointments.
                                                                                                            –A good tipper

  39. Aphotic says:

    I think at some point we all want to go “Office Space” at our employers and people who keep us employed, but most of these cases lack one thing – direction. In the movie what they wanted to do to get back at their company was steal the awful fax machine and steal money. Then some nut job burned the place down. That’s it!  

    There is nothing more I would love to do than publicly lash out at the inane, moste lugubrious gormandizing people I attend to each day vehemently attacking the organization I work for, but alas, where I live, it’s not so easy to find another job seeing as there are comforts my job affords. Unfortunately, good coffee is not one of them (and I’m not saying that Starbucks has good coffee, thank you Intelligentsia Coffee).

  40. pbrpunx14 says:

    most employers have a clause in their contracts with employees (as mentioned repeatedly above) not to disparage the employer in public (or online… same thing in my book). a previous employer of mine specifically stipulated not mentioning them by name in blogs, etc… I see this as a perfectly reasonable term of employment. whether good or bad, searching the employer should not lead you to a host of employee rants. because i know that my online identity could be traced to location (at minimum), i won’t even mention the field i work in currently (especially if i have negative things to say).

    his employer had every right to fire him… the real question here is: if he wanted to keep his job after posting this, why didn’t he set it a cartoon, or otherwise make his identity anonymous?

  41. carbide73 says:

    61,908 views on youtube of his starbucks rant, 311 views of his youtube video about what happened to him afterwards, just saying…

  42. BBNinja says:

    I never considered not getting tips as a fry cook to be fair or unfair.  I didn’t expect tips.  Even thought the cashiers had a little cup on the counter that sometimes got tips it didn’t bother me.  I just did my job.  I was 16-17 at the time so it was a just a job.  I worked all the jobs too, front, back, opening & closing, taking apart the equipment.  I didn’t give people incredulous looks for not tipping and I didn’t get snippy about what things were called
    “It’s not a burger…sir…IT’S A WHOPPER.” isn’t something you are ever likely to hear at Burger King.

  43. bcsizemo says:

    Hey, I drink so little coffee it’s good to try something new every now and then.  I rarely return food items like that anyway (unless they are not edible).  I hate causing other people extra work.  Actually that is one of the reasons I always go in to order, so I can see what they are putting in my bag.  That way I can just stop them before they have to throw something away.

  44. Guest says:

    “Man who argue with cow on wall like car with no wheels, very soon get nowhere”. 
    -Inspecter Sidney Wang  ;^)

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