Comments on: Capacitive touchscreen keyboard http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sat, 25 May 2013 10:55:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: bytefyre http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1233558 bytefyre Tue, 04 Oct 2011 06:19:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1233558 it doesn't have the bumps on the f and j keys so wouldn't you need to look at it to type? I can't type even remotely accurately without looking unless i know where the f and j keys are, I don't know about anyone else it doesn’t have the bumps on the f and j keys so wouldn’t you need to look at it to type? I can’t type even remotely accurately without looking unless i know where the f and j keys are, I don’t know about anyone else

]]> By: SarahKH http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1233379 SarahKH Tue, 04 Oct 2011 00:24:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1233379 That and in the event of a zombie horde your keyboard can double as a nice mallet to beat them with.  I highly doubt this one here will be able to pumel quite as many zombies as yours before it snaps. That and in the event of a zombie horde your keyboard can double as a nice mallet to beat them with.  I highly doubt this one here will be able to pumel quite as many zombies as yours before it snaps.

]]> By: phisrow http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1233375 phisrow Tue, 04 Oct 2011 00:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1233375 Did somebody miss the memo that was circulated, the one to the effect that 'touchscreen keyboards' were a last resort, only to be used in cases of extreme space constraint? Seriously... Those $5 silicone rollable keyboards, which have the worst keyfeel in the universe, by the standards of physical keyboards, have better feedback than that. Heck, those gimmicky <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projection_keyboard" rel="nofollow">'projection keyboards'</a> have the same keyfeel, and are much smaller... What possible reason would one have for inflicting a touchscreen keyboard on a desktop system? A cheap-and-nasty rubber dome switch unit, probably yours free with purchase, will feel like a double-vicodin and the caress of your true love by comparison.... WHY? Did somebody miss the memo that was circulated, the one to the effect that ‘touchscreen keyboards’ were a last resort, only to be used in cases of extreme space constraint?

Seriously… Those $5 silicone rollable keyboards, which have the worst keyfeel in the universe, by the standards of physical keyboards, have better feedback than that. Heck, those gimmicky ‘projection keyboards’ have the same keyfeel, and are much smaller…

What possible reason would one have for inflicting a touchscreen keyboard on a desktop system? A cheap-and-nasty rubber dome switch unit, probably yours free with purchase, will feel like a double-vicodin and the caress of your true love by comparison…. WHY?

]]> By: Justin Kirby http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1233227 Justin Kirby Mon, 03 Oct 2011 21:18:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1233227 Many years ago I became addicted to the Fingerworks Touchstream. It has windows,osx,linux mode with emacs mode etc... I can not imagine life without this keyboard. Very programmable gesture based keyboard. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FingerWorks Of course as with all great products it is no longer produced. Many years ago I became addicted to the Fingerworks Touchstream. It has windows,osx,linux mode with emacs mode etc… I can not imagine life without this keyboard. Very programmable gesture based keyboard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FingerWorks

Of course as with all great products it is no longer produced.

]]> By: EH http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1233204 EH Mon, 03 Oct 2011 20:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1233204 Unfortunately, the "just cut off the 10key" part is the most important to my point. That crappy keyboard you linked not only has a compressed layout where the cursor  and page keys get smooshed into the rest of the layout, but the "large enter key" feature means that the backslash is the wrong size and (apparently) in the wrong place entirely. Those are exactly the worst "Happy Hacker" style keyboards that I can do without. Unfortunately, the “just cut off the 10key” part is the most important to my point. That crappy keyboard you linked not only has a compressed layout where the cursor  and page keys get smooshed into the rest of the layout, but the “large enter key” feature means that the backslash is the wrong size and (apparently) in the wrong place entirely. Those are exactly the worst “Happy Hacker” style keyboards that I can do without.

]]> By: Paul Renault http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1233174 Paul Renault Mon, 03 Oct 2011 20:31:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1233174 It's like using Windows On-Screen Keyboard on a touch screen! My nipples are bursting with pleasure at the very thought! It’s like using Windows On-Screen Keyboard on a touch screen!

My nipples are bursting with pleasure at the very thought!

]]> By: Ralidius http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1233170 Ralidius Mon, 03 Oct 2011 20:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1233170 Form over function with windows drivers only. Uncanny. Form over function with windows drivers only. Uncanny.

]]> By: Palomino http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1233146 Palomino Mon, 03 Oct 2011 20:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1233146 http://www.amazon.com/A4TECH-Multimedia-Keyboard-Profile-Compact/dp/B000F6UUXQ And all of my laptops have never had a 10 key.  http://www.amazon.com/A4TECH-Multimedia-Keyboard-Profile-Compact/dp/B000F6UUXQ
And all of my laptops have never had a 10 key. 

]]> By: Palomino http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1233141 Palomino Mon, 03 Oct 2011 19:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1233141 The resistance will always be desired. It's a completion of an action. Typewriter keys are not pressed, they are "depressed". It's the act of depressing that sends a message to the brain that an action has been completed.  Therefor, no need to look a the keyboard. My nephews (aged 22) can only text with a program that connects letters,  I don't know how it works, they just drag their finger to connect letters. That works, connecting  letters together by drawing a line is a completion of an action too.  Now, if there was some type of key sensor, like a vibration when the key is pressed, this design will  work. Otherwise, forget it. The resistance will always be desired. It’s a completion of an action. Typewriter keys are not pressed, they are “depressed”. It’s the act of depressing that sends a message to the brain that an action has been completed.  Therefor, no need to look a the keyboard. My nephews (aged 22) can only text with a program that connects letters,  I don’t know how it works, they just drag their finger to connect letters. That works, connecting  letters together by drawing a line is a completion of an action too. 

Now, if there was some type of key sensor, like a vibration when the key is pressed, this design will  work. Otherwise, forget it.

]]> By: EH http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1233080 EH Mon, 03 Oct 2011 19:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1233080 And still we are forced to make room for a 10-key. Why aren't there any keyboards without 10-key while retaining the cursor/page keys? Just cut the dang 10key off...someone. And still we are forced to make room for a 10-key. Why aren’t there any keyboards without 10-key while retaining the cursor/page keys? Just cut the dang 10key off…someone.

]]> By: cymk http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1232966 cymk Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1232966 At the risk of some serious carpel tunnel, that keyboards looks sweet. At the risk of some serious carpel tunnel, that keyboards looks sweet.

]]> By: CountZero http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1232889 CountZero Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:36:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1232889 Mmmm, I like that Tactus keyboard. Looking at the insane price of the other one, I truly shudder to think how much it'll cost. Mmmm, I like that Tactus keyboard. Looking at the insane price of the other one, I truly shudder to think how much it’ll cost.

]]> By: Ryan David Jahn http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1232872 Ryan David Jahn Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1232872 I learned to type -- and by learned to type, I mean I learned to bang out 70 words per minute with two fingers and a thumb -- on a Remington Letter-Riter De Luxe my parents bought me for my twelfth birthday, and still prefer the depth and clack of a proper keyboard. Though I use them when traveling, I even find shallow laptop keyboards somehow unsatisfying. With this thing, I'd feel like I was sending a text message no matter what I was doing. I learned to type — and by learned to type, I mean I learned to bang out 70 words per minute with two fingers and a thumb — on a Remington Letter-Riter De Luxe my parents bought me for my twelfth birthday, and still prefer the depth and clack of a proper keyboard. Though I use them when traveling, I even find shallow laptop keyboards somehow unsatisfying. With this thing, I’d feel like I was sending a text message no matter what I was doing.

]]> By: Nadreck http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1232867 Nadreck Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1232867 See many Star Trek STNG boards for why touch-screen keyboards are the worst thing in ergonomics ever.  I think their LCARS interfaces won several awards for dystopian futurism. See many Star Trek STNG boards for why touch-screen keyboards are the worst thing in ergonomics ever.  I think their LCARS interfaces won several awards for dystopian futurism.

]]> By: traalfaz http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1232809 traalfaz Mon, 03 Oct 2011 15:15:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1232809 The fact that it needs drivers at all is a huge fail.  One can only assume that it's leaning heavily on the PC CPU to do its work, otherwise, hey, HID standard USB guys. The fact that it needs drivers at all is a huge fail.  One can only assume that it’s leaning heavily on the PC CPU to do its work, otherwise, hey, HID standard USB guys.

]]> By: Cowicide http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1232802 Cowicide Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:58:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1232802 This Apple Keyboard makes a helluva lot more sense in the real world... http://www.geekologie.com/2007/08/15/apple-keyboard.jpg This Apple Keyboard makes a helluva lot more sense in the real world…

http://www.geekologie.com/2007/08/15/apple-keyboard.jpg

]]> By: Adrian Jones http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1232797 Adrian Jones Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1232797 This sounds more useful: http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/ and this looks like the one in the article, but better: http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus-tactus/ This sounds more useful:

http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/

and this looks like the one in the article, but better:

http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus-tactus/

]]> By: Rob Beschizza http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1232793 Rob Beschizza Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:45:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1232793 This is why Dillinger was so frustrated with his professional status. This is why Dillinger was so frustrated with his professional status.

]]> By: Rob Beschizza http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1232792 Rob Beschizza Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:44:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1232792 fixed title! fixed title!

]]> By: Andrew Poole http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1232789 Andrew Poole Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1232789 I'm getting visions of TRON style desks... :) I’m getting visions of TRON style desks… :)

]]> By: Martijn Rotman http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1232788 Martijn Rotman Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1232788 patent it and take my money! patent it and take my money!

]]> By: digi_owl http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1232786 digi_owl Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:26:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1232786 Microsoft labs had a system where they overlayed transparent buttons on a lcd screen to give configurability and feedback at the same time. I wonder if something like that, with the option to remove the numpad so that area could work as a optional touch surface, could work here. hell, now i find myself wondering about strap on buttons for touch screen mobile phones... Microsoft labs had a system where they overlayed transparent buttons on a lcd screen to give configurability and feedback at the same time. I wonder if something like that, with the option to remove the numpad so that area could work as a optional touch surface, could work here.

hell, now i find myself wondering about strap on buttons for touch screen mobile phones…

]]> By: Jim Robertson http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1232782 Jim Robertson Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1232782 Throw in haptic feedback, and it's all good. Seriously, I seem to recall an article a while back about using an alternating-current to 'shock' the sensors in your fingertips ... the sensation not being a shock, but just a little feeling in the fingertip at that spot on the display. Ha.  Throw in haptic feedback, and it’s all good.

Seriously, I seem to recall an article a while back about using an alternating-current to ‘shock’ the sensors in your fingertips … the sensation not being a shock, but just a little feeling in the fingertip at that spot on the display.

Ha. 

]]> By: Eric Rucker http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1232783 Eric Rucker Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1232783 My 9 pound, 122-key IBM Model F (buckling spring that works better than even the Model M) terminal keyboard, adapted to USB, is disappointed that this is called a "keyboard". My 9 pound, 122-key IBM Model F (buckling spring that works better than even the Model M) terminal keyboard, adapted to USB, is disappointed that this is called a “keyboard”.

]]> By: Casey Barton http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1232781 Casey Barton Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:16:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1232781 An *actual* touch screen keyboard would be pretty cool. This fake screen-resembling flat keyboard is not. An *actual* touch screen keyboard would be pretty cool. This fake screen-resembling flat keyboard is not.

]]> By: Glen Hathaway http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1232780 Glen Hathaway Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1232780 The word (in the title) you're looking for is CAPACITIVE, not Capacitative. As in "a capacitor", not "a capacitator". There is no such thing as a capacitator. :D The word (in the title) you’re looking for is CAPACITIVE, not Capacitative. As in “a capacitor”, not “a capacitator”. There is no such thing as a capacitator. :D

]]> By: DJBentley http://boingboing.net/2011/10/03/capacitative-touchscreen-keyboard.html#comment-1232777 DJBentley Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:03:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=121492#comment-1232777 Glass is for media consumption, not creation. Glass is for media consumption, not creation.

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