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	<title>Comments on: Orange County city council unanimous: Occupy tents are a form of&#160;speech</title>
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		<title>By: penguinchris</title>
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		<dc:creator>penguinchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if it were just photogenic white people at the protest... however, there are *tons* of Asians living in Irvine. Just want to throw that out there as while the general picture of Irvine that&#039;s been painted by the various comments here is accurate (I lived there for a few months over the summer), there&#039;s a lot more diversity than is being suggested.

Of course in my experience there, the Asians are almost always srs bzns *at all times* - it&#039;s a really rather bizarre city-wide confirmation of a stereotype (compare to Westminster/Garden Grove - even more Asians by %, though mostly Vietnamese compared to Irvine&#039;s Chinese and Koreans - which is almost the opposite in srsness).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if it were just photogenic white people at the protest&#8230; however, there are *tons* of Asians living in Irvine. Just want to throw that out there as while the general picture of Irvine that&#8217;s been painted by the various comments here is accurate (I lived there for a few months over the summer), there&#8217;s a lot more diversity than is being suggested.</p>
<p>Of course in my experience there, the Asians are almost always srs bzns *at all times* &#8211; it&#8217;s a really rather bizarre city-wide confirmation of a stereotype (compare to Westminster/Garden Grove &#8211; even more Asians by %, though mostly Vietnamese compared to Irvine&#8217;s Chinese and Koreans &#8211; which is almost the opposite in srsness).</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Basko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Basko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 07:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a famous court case where it was decided that having tents up was a form of free speech, but sleeping in them was not allowed.   (Clark v Community for Creative Nonviolence, 1984).  It will be interesting to watch what happens in Irvine if and when the articulate, considerate protesters get joined by less likable people.   Occupy Irvine would do well to institute a strict code of conduct and oust anyone not keeping to it.   Other Occupation locations have been marred by a few people stealing, using alcohol or drugs, being violent, or not using toilets.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a famous court case where it was decided that having tents up was a form of free speech, but sleeping in them was not allowed.   (Clark v Community for Creative Nonviolence, 1984).  It will be interesting to watch what happens in Irvine if and when the articulate, considerate protesters get joined by less likable people.   Occupy Irvine would do well to institute a strict code of conduct and oust anyone not keeping to it.   Other Occupation locations have been marred by a few people stealing, using alcohol or drugs, being violent, or not using toilets.   </p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn Elich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn Elich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 06:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok.</p>
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		<title>By: oddboyout</title>
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		<dc:creator>oddboyout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 03:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of these members will be voted out in the next election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of these members will be voted out in the next election.</p>
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		<title>By: Teller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes! And congratulations or mazel tov!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! And congratulations or mazel tov!</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Petersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 22:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does the &quot;Ant &amp; Teller Show&quot; play weddings and bar mitzvahs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the &#8220;Ant &amp; Teller Show&#8221; play weddings and bar mitzvahs?</p>
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		<title>By: Teller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Autoerotically speaking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Autoerotically speaking.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would be a particularly tasteless place for a &#039;cold, dead hands&#039; comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would be a particularly tasteless place for a &#8216;cold, dead hands&#8217; comment.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnnyLA</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnnyLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dammit...Sorry, @mdhatter03:disqus 

I replied to the wrong person/quote. It was Svenski, the comment above you, that I was referring to. 

That&#039;s what I get for using a mobile device and pushing reply.. :(
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dammit&#8230;Sorry, @mdhatter03:disqus </p>
<p>I replied to the wrong person/quote. It was Svenski, the comment above you, that I was referring to. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I get for using a mobile device and pushing reply.. :(</p>
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		<title>By: Teller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just try taking it away, you&#039;ll see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just try taking it away, you&#8217;ll see.</p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;…Tents are Free Speech is just an inch from Tents are a Human Right and even less to We Want Free Tents.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Just like the &quot;free pornography is a human right&quot; movement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>…Tents are Free Speech is just an inch from Tents are a Human Right and even less to We Want Free Tents.</p></blockquote>
<p>Just like the &#8220;free pornography is a human right&#8221; movement?</p>
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		<title>By: Teller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was made for Communism. Low ability, high need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was made for Communism. Low ability, high need.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;....but Tents are Free Speech is just an inch from Tents are a Human Right and even less to We Want Free Tents.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Then you must be a HUGE opponent of the idea that corporate political contributions are free speech, because that would be the fast lane to Free Money For Everybody.  I never had you pegged as a Communist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;.but Tents are Free Speech is just an inch from Tents are a Human Right and even less to We Want Free Tents.</p></blockquote>
<p>Then you must be a HUGE opponent of the idea that corporate political contributions are free speech, because that would be the fast lane to Free Money For Everybody.  I never had you pegged as a Communist.</p>
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		<title>By: Teller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A unanimous vote by a city council on a hot issue might be the hidden news here. Absolutely think it&#039;s pretty cool they&#039;re letting them stay, but Tents are Free Speech is just an inch from Tents are a Human Right and even less to We Want Free Tents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A unanimous vote by a city council on a hot issue might be the hidden news here. Absolutely think it&#8217;s pretty cool they&#8217;re letting them stay, but Tents are Free Speech is just an inch from Tents are a Human Right and even less to We Want Free Tents.</p>
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		<title>By: hymenopterid</title>
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		<dc:creator>hymenopterid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing is, people in a pessimistic state of mind tend to think more about short term survival and less about long term plans.

American politics is about dividing people against each other.  If you can crush their optimism with fear, they will be less likely to behave altruistically and they will be more likely to see their neighbors as competitors rather than allies.

My point is, just maintaining a positive outlook is important to our success.

If they can sew the seeds of doubt and fear, then the lizard brain takes over, and the country goes back to sleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing is, people in a pessimistic state of mind tend to think more about short term survival and less about long term plans.</p>
<p>American politics is about dividing people against each other.  If you can crush their optimism with fear, they will be less likely to behave altruistically and they will be more likely to see their neighbors as competitors rather than allies.</p>
<p>My point is, just maintaining a positive outlook is important to our success.</p>
<p>If they can sew the seeds of doubt and fear, then the lizard brain takes over, and the country goes back to sleep.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Petersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;but Irvine will come down hard if you paint your house any other color than beige.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Calumny.  With mine own eyes I&#039;ve seen Irvinian homes spanning the spectrum from &quot;taupe&quot; to &quot;desert sand&quot; to &quot;putty&quot; to &quot;ecru.&quot;  They even encourage a range of indescribable pale-brown/off-white hues that evoke the stirring spirit of lightly cinnamoned oatmeal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>but Irvine will come down hard if you paint your house any other color than beige.</p></blockquote>
<p> Calumny.  With mine own eyes I&#8217;ve seen Irvinian homes spanning the spectrum from &#8220;taupe&#8221; to &#8220;desert sand&#8221; to &#8220;putty&#8221; to &#8220;ecru.&#8221;  They even encourage a range of indescribable pale-brown/off-white hues that evoke the stirring spirit of lightly cinnamoned oatmeal.</p>
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		<title>By: MostlyDifferent</title>
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		<dc:creator>MostlyDifferent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not at all what I&#039;m talking about.  In Irvine, &quot;walking on the lawn&quot; is tantamount to &quot;messing up the lawn.&quot;  I&#039;m saying that the gesture of &quot;you can sleep on our lawn&quot; is a much bigger gesture by the city of Irvine than it may appear on the surface.  It&#039;s like letting a stranger borrow your classic Mustang to drive a friend to Burning Man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not at all what I&#8217;m talking about.  In Irvine, &#8220;walking on the lawn&#8221; is tantamount to &#8220;messing up the lawn.&#8221;  I&#8217;m saying that the gesture of &#8220;you can sleep on our lawn&#8221; is a much bigger gesture by the city of Irvine than it may appear on the surface.  It&#8217;s like letting a stranger borrow your classic Mustang to drive a friend to Burning Man.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody said it was okay to mess anything up. Have you considered the reports of how messy and nasty the protests are might be.... exagerated? And that people are entirely capable of being polite and living with a small footprint while BEING NEIGHBORLY in the name of a cause?

All the comments slanted from the viewpoint that the protesters are just a bunch of dirty hippes, that&#039;s what I am sick of.

If you never expect better, you&#039;ll never recognize it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody said it was okay to mess anything up. Have you considered the reports of how messy and nasty the protests are might be&#8230;. exagerated? And that people are entirely capable of being polite and living with a small footprint while BEING NEIGHBORLY in the name of a cause?</p>
<p>All the comments slanted from the viewpoint that the protesters are just a bunch of dirty hippes, that&#8217;s what I am sick of.</p>
<p>If you never expect better, you&#8217;ll never recognize it. </p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is asking them to be grateful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is asking them to be grateful?</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and I, good sir, am sick and tired of people building strawmen in front of me. 

What are you on about, and what does it have to do with what I said? 

Are you certain you got my point, about how the protesters are usually discredited, and it was nice to see the opinion of a democratic body for once. 

Are you sure? because I think you make have jumped to several dozen incorrect conclusions about my viewpoint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and I, good sir, am sick and tired of people building strawmen in front of me. </p>
<p>What are you on about, and what does it have to do with what I said? </p>
<p>Are you certain you got my point, about how the protesters are usually discredited, and it was nice to see the opinion of a democratic body for once. </p>
<p>Are you sure? because I think you make have jumped to several dozen incorrect conclusions about my viewpoint.</p>
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		<title>By: monopole</title>
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		<dc:creator>monopole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Far from perfect, but a pleasant surprise for Irvine.

The Occupy OC folks have been meticulous about not giving the Irvine PD any excuses.

Given the Irvine PD that could get very messy indeed:
http://www.ocweekly.com/2007-02-08/news/illegally-park-ed/
Forget about mace in the face :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Far from perfect, but a pleasant surprise for Irvine.</p>
<p>The Occupy OC folks have been meticulous about not giving the Irvine PD any excuses.</p>
<p>Given the Irvine PD that could get very messy indeed:<br />
<a href="http://www.ocweekly.com/2007-02-08/news/illegally-park-ed/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ocweekly.com/2007-02-08/news/illegally-park-ed/</a><br />
Forget about mace in the face :)</p>
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		<title>By: SkylerNelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>SkylerNelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Credit should go where credit is due, of course.

But the point is this: isn&#039;t it a little sad that rather than being grateful for being listened to and worked with, rather than being grateful for the opportunity to make any actual progress, we are asking the protesters to be grateful for being allowed to exercise their rights without being beaten up and arrested?

We&#039;re all happy that nobody got thrown in jail, but it&#039;s worth recognizing that it&#039;s not exactly a victory for anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Credit should go where credit is due, of course.</p>
<p>But the point is this: isn&#8217;t it a little sad that rather than being grateful for being listened to and worked with, rather than being grateful for the opportunity to make any actual progress, we are asking the protesters to be grateful for being allowed to exercise their rights without being beaten up and arrested?</p>
<p>We&#8217;re all happy that nobody got thrown in jail, but it&#8217;s worth recognizing that it&#8217;s not exactly a victory for anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: MostlyDifferent</title>
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		<dc:creator>MostlyDifferent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So if you need to sleep on our lawn, by all means, sleep on our lawn&quot;

This shocked me, hearing it come from Irvine.  It may not seem like much to people who don&#039;t know the area, but &quot;it&#039;s OK to mess up our lawn&quot; in Irvine is equivalent to &quot;it&#039;s OK to take a dump in our living room&quot; in other places.  City loves its lawns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So if you need to sleep on our lawn, by all means, sleep on our lawn&#8221;</p>
<p>This shocked me, hearing it come from Irvine.  It may not seem like much to people who don&#8217;t know the area, but &#8220;it&#8217;s OK to mess up our lawn&#8221; in Irvine is equivalent to &#8220;it&#8217;s OK to take a dump in our living room&#8221; in other places.  City loves its lawns.</p>
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		<title>By: Terance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but Irvine will come down hard if you paint your house any other color than beige.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but Irvine will come down hard if you paint your house any other color than beige.</p>
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		<title>By: Bearpaw01</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bearpaw01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The council members each spoke in turn to the civility, articulateness and peaceful process represented by the Irvine Occupation at contrast with the several other Occupational Villages in California, which were, at that very moment being tear-gassed. &quot;

Yes, shame on those Occupiers in Oakland, who for some reason seem unable to be civil while they&#039;re being teargassed.  Hell, one of them is so inarticulate that you might think he was in a coma in the hospital.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The council members each spoke in turn to the civility, articulateness and peaceful process represented by the Irvine Occupation at contrast with the several other Occupational Villages in California, which were, at that very moment being tear-gassed. &#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, shame on those Occupiers in Oakland, who for some reason seem unable to be civil while they&#8217;re being teargassed.  Hell, one of them is so inarticulate that you might think he was in a coma in the hospital.</p>
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		<title>By: public bizmail</title>
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		<dc:creator>public bizmail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;WINTER IS COMING.&quot;

When did Ned Stark start posting on BoingBoing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;WINTER IS COMING.&#8221;</p>
<p>When did Ned Stark start posting on BoingBoing?</p>
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		<title>By: chortick</title>
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		<dc:creator>chortick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An inexpensive improvement over tents is available at http://hexayurt.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An inexpensive improvement over tents is available at <a href="http://hexayurt.com" rel="nofollow">http://hexayurt.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: JohnnyLA</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnnyLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I&#039;m getting sick of people seeing the dark presence of &quot;the man&quot;  in everything. 

If the city  didn&#039;t do this someone would yell and throw a fit that the place is full of fascists. 

Instead they go and do something much better than the vast majority of other cities in the country and they still get slagged.  

Give them a little f-ing credit for once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I&#8217;m getting sick of people seeing the dark presence of &#8220;the man&#8221;  in everything. </p>
<p>If the city  didn&#8217;t do this someone would yell and throw a fit that the place is full of fascists. </p>
<p>Instead they go and do something much better than the vast majority of other cities in the country and they still get slagged.  </p>
<p>Give them a little f-ing credit for once.</p>
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		<title>By: public bizmail</title>
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		<dc:creator>public bizmail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or the fact that getting a bench installed at a bus stop nearly requires an act of God.  Don&#039;t even think about proposing an actual shelter for the tens of thousands of non-whites that come to Irvine every day to clean our houses, scrub our restaurants, and care for our children.

Here in Irvine it&#039;s very much the 5% bitching about the 1%.
(but that does make for exceptional public schools 8)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or the fact that getting a bench installed at a bus stop nearly requires an act of God.  Don&#8217;t even think about proposing an actual shelter for the tens of thousands of non-whites that come to Irvine every day to clean our houses, scrub our restaurants, and care for our children.</p>
<p>Here in Irvine it&#8217;s very much the 5% bitching about the 1%.<br />
(but that does make for exceptional public schools 8)</p>
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		<title>By: public bizmail</title>
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		<dc:creator>public bizmail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bingo.  The Occupy OC folks wouldn&#039;t last 30 minutes at the Spectrum because, as a mall, it&#039;s &quot;Private Property.&quot; Donald Bren can be quite heavy handed.

 If Occupy OC  wants to kick it up a notch,  confronting the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/54/400list08_Donald-Bren_31KV.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;20th richest man in America&lt;/a&gt; with an  Occupy the Spectrum is EXACTLY what they should do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bingo.  The Occupy OC folks wouldn&#8217;t last 30 minutes at the Spectrum because, as a mall, it&#8217;s &#8220;Private Property.&#8221; Donald Bren can be quite heavy handed.</p>
<p> If Occupy OC  wants to kick it up a notch,  confronting the <a href="http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/54/400list08_Donald-Bren_31KV.html" rel="nofollow">20th richest man in America</a> with an  Occupy the Spectrum is EXACTLY what they should do.</p>
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