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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/10/28/how-occupy-wall-street-cost-me-my-job.html#comment-1256496</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 22:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moderator note:  Out of ~250 comments in this thread, 100 were made by four commenters who made more or less the same four comments over and over and over, including one commenter who made essentially the same comment 53 times in three hours.

This is why we can&#039;t have nice things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moderator note:  Out of ~250 comments in this thread, 100 were made by four commenters who made more or less the same four comments over and over and over, including one commenter who made essentially the same comment 53 times in three hours.</p>
<p>This is why we can&#8217;t have nice things.</p>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/10/28/how-occupy-wall-street-cost-me-my-job.html#comment-1256354</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;To do something that directly feeds in to that threat to your own employment--and the employment of your co-workers--ain&#039;t exactly playing with the team.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That&#039;s funny.  I thought the &quot;team&quot; was the American people?  Silly me.

(This part below isn&#039;t to you, okalokee)

Man, this thread was getting crazy.  The dude(s) with the sockpuppets were forgetting which posts to answer to and began answering for their other sockpuppets by mistake with the wrong sockpuppets.  You trolls are losing your touch.

And, I hate to break it to you, but the more &lt;i&gt;rabid&lt;/i&gt; you guys get... the more we know OWS is working.  Thank you for your inspiration and thank you for your unwitting efforts to keep more and more Americans dedicated to strengthening the OWS movement.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908//vp/45055563#45055563&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tony Baloney would be proud&lt;/a&gt; and I&#039;m sure he would be thrilled to know I&#039;m &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QwX_soZ1GI&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dedicating this video link&lt;/a&gt; in his name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>To do something that directly feeds in to that threat to your own employment&#8211;and the employment of your co-workers&#8211;ain&#8217;t exactly playing with the team.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s funny.  I thought the &#8220;team&#8221; was the American people?  Silly me.</p>
<p>(This part below isn&#8217;t to you, okalokee)</p>
<p>Man, this thread was getting crazy.  The dude(s) with the sockpuppets were forgetting which posts to answer to and began answering for their other sockpuppets by mistake with the wrong sockpuppets.  You trolls are losing your touch.</p>
<p>And, I hate to break it to you, but the more <i>rabid</i> you guys get&#8230; the more we know OWS is working.  Thank you for your inspiration and thank you for your unwitting efforts to keep more and more Americans dedicated to strengthening the OWS movement.  <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908//vp/45055563#45055563" rel="nofollow">Tony Baloney would be proud</a> and I&#8217;m sure he would be thrilled to know I&#8217;m <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QwX_soZ1GI" rel="nofollow">dedicating this video link</a> in his name.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Linhart</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/10/28/how-occupy-wall-street-cost-me-my-job.html#comment-1256353</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Linhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! So you think there is an ethical violation involved if journalists go to an OWS event to cover the news and report on a financial scam of concern to the OWS protesters?  You&#039;re really saying journalists should not be allowed to even report on those issues?  And further, you&#039;re saying it is wrong for them to even discuss covering those issues with their colleagues?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! So you think there is an ethical violation involved if journalists go to an OWS event to cover the news and report on a financial scam of concern to the OWS protesters?  You&#8217;re really saying journalists should not be allowed to even report on those issues?  And further, you&#8217;re saying it is wrong for them to even discuss covering those issues with their colleagues?</p>
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		<title>By: Mitchel Ahern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitchel Ahern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First note that host Hockenberry is quoted as saying about The Takeaway &quot;I really think that, you know, Howard Stern is a model here.&quot; And the little bit the show says about itself on its site includes &quot;be part of the American conversation,&quot; so it seems reasonable that the show would at least dabble in self-referential gonzo journalism. 

Ms Curran does not seem to have set out to make herself &quot;part of the story,&quot; but her well-written protest sign *became* a story. Pitching a take on that story to The Takeaway seems not only reasonable, but responsible. Imagine that a competing show, like MarketPlace, ran with her story and she *hadn&#039;t* pitched it to The Takeaway?

So really The Takeaway ends up sounding not like Howard Stern but more like boring morning pablum. No reason for me to listen to it anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First note that host Hockenberry is quoted as saying about The Takeaway &#8220;I really think that, you know, Howard Stern is a model here.&#8221; And the little bit the show says about itself on its site includes &#8220;be part of the American conversation,&#8221; so it seems reasonable that the show would at least dabble in self-referential gonzo journalism. </p>
<p>Ms Curran does not seem to have set out to make herself &#8220;part of the story,&#8221; but her well-written protest sign *became* a story. Pitching a take on that story to The Takeaway seems not only reasonable, but responsible. Imagine that a competing show, like MarketPlace, ran with her story and she *hadn&#8217;t* pitched it to The Takeaway?</p>
<p>So really The Takeaway ends up sounding not like Howard Stern but more like boring morning pablum. No reason for me to listen to it anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: travtastic</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/10/28/how-occupy-wall-street-cost-me-my-job.html#comment-1256347</link>
		<dc:creator>travtastic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d offer her work as a contributor here, until she finds something else.</description>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/10/28/how-occupy-wall-street-cost-me-my-job.html#comment-1256319</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I also see a lot of people here with the argument that the conservative media (Fox) shows bias and lack of integrity, so we should too.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Blatant false argument. No one is saying that at ALL.

Fox News purports to be fair and balanced and is NOT.  Their &lt;i&gt;reporting&lt;/i&gt; is an ongoing series of half-truths and outright lies.

No one is saying this woman should report half-truth and lies.  AT ALL.  If anything, we want more HONESTY.  If this woman is reporting dishonestly, then let us know... thanks.

Vast difference there from mimicking Fox News who is the epitome of &lt;i&gt;dishonesty&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I also see a lot of people here with the argument that the conservative media (Fox) shows bias and lack of integrity, so we should too.</p></blockquote>
<p>Blatant false argument. No one is saying that at ALL.</p>
<p>Fox News purports to be fair and balanced and is NOT.  Their <i>reporting</i> is an ongoing series of half-truths and outright lies.</p>
<p>No one is saying this woman should report half-truth and lies.  AT ALL.  If anything, we want more HONESTY.  If this woman is reporting dishonestly, then let us know&#8230; thanks.</p>
<p>Vast difference there from mimicking Fox News who is the epitome of <i>dishonesty</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: lorq</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/10/28/how-occupy-wall-street-cost-me-my-job.html#comment-1256321</link>
		<dc:creator>lorq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s baffling to me about both the article *and* this entire comment thread is that Curran *did not actually run any story* -- she merely *pitched* the idea.  As someone way earlier in the thread pointed out, this might be grounds for a raised eyebrow, but not dismissal.  Curran didn&#039;t &quot;violate&quot; any code because she never had a chance to perform an action to which the code applied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s baffling to me about both the article *and* this entire comment thread is that Curran *did not actually run any story* &#8212; she merely *pitched* the idea.  As someone way earlier in the thread pointed out, this might be grounds for a raised eyebrow, but not dismissal.  Curran didn&#8217;t &#8220;violate&#8221; any code because she never had a chance to perform an action to which the code applied.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Eyre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Eyre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this kind of interesting, because I normally get rankled by, what I perceive to be, the little objectivity remaining in much that I see labeled as journalism.

This, however, doesn&#039;t really bother me. It seems pretty clear. Murder is bad. Cheating is bad. Stealing is bad. Lieing is generally bad... particularly when it&#039;s to clients with whom you are ethically obligated to not lie to under any circumstances. Why is it bad to say, even as a journalist, that lieing and stealing is wrong? If a democrat or republican lies, it&#039;s wrong. If a banker cheats, lies, and steals from his clients, it&#039;s wrong. I don&#039;t really see much of a bias there. And, who out there will actually tell me, with a straight face, that there&#039;s any doubt that this institutionally backed fraud did not actually happen?

I&#039;m a pretty conservative guy, fiscally, but there&#039;s no way to spin this any other way than there are an aweful lot of people who need to go to jail for what they knowingly and willingly did.

Who cares that this lady stated the obvious?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this kind of interesting, because I normally get rankled by, what I perceive to be, the little objectivity remaining in much that I see labeled as journalism.</p>
<p>This, however, doesn&#8217;t really bother me. It seems pretty clear. Murder is bad. Cheating is bad. Stealing is bad. Lieing is generally bad&#8230; particularly when it&#8217;s to clients with whom you are ethically obligated to not lie to under any circumstances. Why is it bad to say, even as a journalist, that lieing and stealing is wrong? If a democrat or republican lies, it&#8217;s wrong. If a banker cheats, lies, and steals from his clients, it&#8217;s wrong. I don&#8217;t really see much of a bias there. And, who out there will actually tell me, with a straight face, that there&#8217;s any doubt that this institutionally backed fraud did not actually happen?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a pretty conservative guy, fiscally, but there&#8217;s no way to spin this any other way than there are an aweful lot of people who need to go to jail for what they knowingly and willingly did.</p>
<p>Who cares that this lady stated the obvious?</p>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/10/28/how-occupy-wall-street-cost-me-my-job.html#comment-1256310</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I wholeheartedly support the OWS movement, and if I was her boss, I would&#039;ve fired her too. Pitching a story where you are the subject at a political rally? Honestly she must&#039;ve been out of her mind to think that would fly. Unless you are suggesting that NPR become the liberal version of Fox News, I don&#039;t know how you could get behind such a thing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You don&#039;t understand, they are actually &lt;b&gt;more&lt;/b&gt; like FOX &quot;News&quot; &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; they fired her.

Fox News repeatedly champions itself as fair and balanced, but they purposefully and dishonestly fail at that job miserably.  They have plenty of people that work for Fox News that blatantly call themselves journalists, but they are also blatant liars.  It&#039;s obvious the Fox News &quot;journalists&quot; true agenda is to help support and prop up the pundits through &quot;selective&quot;, dishonest reporting.

To honestly report on yourself while everyone knows your potential bias.. is, well... &lt;b&gt;HONEST&lt;/b&gt;.

If NPR wants to be more like Fox News, then they should stay on course and continue to fire honest people.  If NPR wants to be less like Fox News, they should simply be more open, transparent and honest.  If NPR found that she was &lt;i&gt;being dishonest in her reporting&lt;/i&gt; then that&#039;s one thing, but this is quite another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I wholeheartedly support the OWS movement, and if I was her boss, I would&#8217;ve fired her too. Pitching a story where you are the subject at a political rally? Honestly she must&#8217;ve been out of her mind to think that would fly. Unless you are suggesting that NPR become the liberal version of Fox News, I don&#8217;t know how you could get behind such a thing.</p></blockquote>
<p>You don&#8217;t understand, they are actually <b>more</b> like FOX &#8220;News&#8221; <i>because</i> they fired her.</p>
<p>Fox News repeatedly champions itself as fair and balanced, but they purposefully and dishonestly fail at that job miserably.  They have plenty of people that work for Fox News that blatantly call themselves journalists, but they are also blatant liars.  It&#8217;s obvious the Fox News &#8220;journalists&#8221; true agenda is to help support and prop up the pundits through &#8220;selective&#8221;, dishonest reporting.</p>
<p>To honestly report on yourself while everyone knows your potential bias.. is, well&#8230; <b>HONEST</b>.</p>
<p>If NPR wants to be more like Fox News, then they should stay on course and continue to fire honest people.  If NPR wants to be less like Fox News, they should simply be more open, transparent and honest.  If NPR found that she was <i>being dishonest in her reporting</i> then that&#8217;s one thing, but this is quite another.</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/10/28/how-occupy-wall-street-cost-me-my-job.html#comment-1256303</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t aware that becoming a journalist meant you could no longer have opinions, could no longer participate.....does it also mean you cannot vote?   I fully agree with you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t aware that becoming a journalist meant you could no longer have opinions, could no longer participate&#8230;..does it also mean you cannot vote?   I fully agree with you!</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/10/28/how-occupy-wall-street-cost-me-my-job.html#comment-1256304</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arrest her?   You cannot be serious.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arrest her?   You cannot be serious&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Artimus Mangilord</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/10/28/how-occupy-wall-street-cost-me-my-job.html#comment-1256294</link>
		<dc:creator>Artimus Mangilord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having written that, I realize now the true end game is actually &quot;believe the reports that agree with your delicately constructed world view, disparage those that disagree.&quot; God help us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having written that, I realize now the true end game is actually &#8220;believe the reports that agree with your delicately constructed world view, disparage those that disagree.&#8221; God help us.</p>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/10/28/how-occupy-wall-street-cost-me-my-job.html#comment-1256285</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And if they want to stay journalists, they&#039;ll keep those opinions to themselves. We know unconscious bias probably comes through anyway in subtle ways.  An openly biased and opinionated journalist cannot be relied upon to tell the unvarnished truth. Period &lt;/blockquote&gt;
At first I thought you were being sarcastic, but then I slowly realized the sad, unvarnished truth... some of you just have totally different mindsets that desire to live in an impractical, unrealistic world.

I would much rather read news reports from &lt;i&gt;honest and open&lt;/i&gt; journalists than from those journalists that attempt to conceal their honest opinions at all costs.

I will allow &lt;i&gt;my own critical thinking skills&lt;/i&gt; and ability to cross-check facts to be my judge of whether they are honestly reporting on stories or not.

As a matter of fact, I think it&#039;s much more honest and ethical to be &lt;i&gt;upfront&lt;/i&gt; about your opinions no matter who you are in this world; especially if you are a journalist or other public figure.

&lt;b&gt;Keep playing charades all you want... reality is still knocking.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And if they want to stay journalists, they&#8217;ll keep those opinions to themselves. We know unconscious bias probably comes through anyway in subtle ways.  An openly biased and opinionated journalist cannot be relied upon to tell the unvarnished truth. Period </p></blockquote>
<p>At first I thought you were being sarcastic, but then I slowly realized the sad, unvarnished truth&#8230; some of you just have totally different mindsets that desire to live in an impractical, unrealistic world.</p>
<p>I would much rather read news reports from <i>honest and open</i> journalists than from those journalists that attempt to conceal their honest opinions at all costs.</p>
<p>I will allow <i>my own critical thinking skills</i> and ability to cross-check facts to be my judge of whether they are honestly reporting on stories or not.</p>
<p>As a matter of fact, I think it&#8217;s much more honest and ethical to be <i>upfront</i> about your opinions no matter who you are in this world; especially if you are a journalist or other public figure.</p>
<p><b>Keep playing charades all you want&#8230; reality is still knocking.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Artimus Mangilord</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/10/28/how-occupy-wall-street-cost-me-my-job.html#comment-1256273</link>
		<dc:creator>Artimus Mangilord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again with the straw man arguments. I&#039;ll come right out and say (again) that I support OWS and have said nothing to indicate the contrary. OWS as the setting is incidental to what most of the folks are arguing over here.

Let&#039;s create a hypothetical scenario: a popular movement known as *teabaggers* have been occupying the streets of *DC* for weeks, protesting the powers that be on *K street*, when a *Fox News* reporter sharing their opinions joins their ranks to protest, is photographed as such, then tries to pitch themselves as a subject of a story relaying the opinions of the occupying group.

Now that we&#039;ve removed OWS from the picture, would you defend the Fox reporter&#039;s journalistic integrity in producing a piece on the topic of teabagger protests after having participated with a particular bias? That&#039;s the crux. Perhaps firing Curran was too harsh, but I would certainly question her judgement as the employer. If your reply is that &quot;journalistic integrity died a long time ago and is no longer an expectation&quot;, than the only end game I see in this cynical world is that we can no longer trust anyone at anytime. There is a difference between honest attempts toward objectivity and complete subjectivity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again with the straw man arguments. I&#8217;ll come right out and say (again) that I support OWS and have said nothing to indicate the contrary. OWS as the setting is incidental to what most of the folks are arguing over here.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s create a hypothetical scenario: a popular movement known as *teabaggers* have been occupying the streets of *DC* for weeks, protesting the powers that be on *K street*, when a *Fox News* reporter sharing their opinions joins their ranks to protest, is photographed as such, then tries to pitch themselves as a subject of a story relaying the opinions of the occupying group.</p>
<p>Now that we&#8217;ve removed OWS from the picture, would you defend the Fox reporter&#8217;s journalistic integrity in producing a piece on the topic of teabagger protests after having participated with a particular bias? That&#8217;s the crux. Perhaps firing Curran was too harsh, but I would certainly question her judgement as the employer. If your reply is that &#8220;journalistic integrity died a long time ago and is no longer an expectation&#8221;, than the only end game I see in this cynical world is that we can no longer trust anyone at anytime. There is a difference between honest attempts toward objectivity and complete subjectivity.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Linhart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Linhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If she said the same thing in the same place speaking into a camera, would it be wrong to pitch it to her senior producers as a possible feature?  Also, since when is one fired (let go) for making a pitch?  That&#039;s a hideous precedent.  If she was fired for making a pitch, we have a much bigger problem.  The journalistic integrity, participating in politics thing is arguable.  But if she was fired for pitching an idea, then the person doing the firing needs to be fired as a threat to journalistic integrity.  A news source where the employees are fired over their suggestions is not a news source at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If she said the same thing in the same place speaking into a camera, would it be wrong to pitch it to her senior producers as a possible feature?  Also, since when is one fired (let go) for making a pitch?  That&#8217;s a hideous precedent.  If she was fired for making a pitch, we have a much bigger problem.  The journalistic integrity, participating in politics thing is arguable.  But if she was fired for pitching an idea, then the person doing the firing needs to be fired as a threat to journalistic integrity.  A news source where the employees are fired over their suggestions is not a news source at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Barrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Barrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She didn&#039;t try to make it news. It&#039;s not like she got the picture taken of herself and then before anyone saw it tried to make it a story.

The picture was taken and spread virally across the internet and became news. She pitched an idea to talk about what was already news every where else. Should the station have just pretended there were not people all over the place talking about this exact same thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She didn&#8217;t try to make it news. It&#8217;s not like she got the picture taken of herself and then before anyone saw it tried to make it a story.</p>
<p>The picture was taken and spread virally across the internet and became news. She pitched an idea to talk about what was already news every where else. Should the station have just pretended there were not people all over the place talking about this exact same thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Mielke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Mielke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You would lose all trust in her stories for like a day. Then you&#039;d have forgotten her name like everyone else. I&#039;m only a hundred comments in and can&#039;t remember her name. Get over yourself. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would lose all trust in her stories for like a day. Then you&#8217;d have forgotten her name like everyone else. I&#8217;m only a hundred comments in and can&#8217;t remember her name. Get over yourself. </p>
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		<title>By: Teller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went...I saw...I talked to...is not what I&#039;m talking about. Hersh investigates and exposes. He doesn&#039;t sink Soviet subs and contact the CIA to fish it out for intelligence purposes. He unwraps a story; he isn&#039;t the story. Though I&#039;ll agree when the CIA or other entity finds out someone with Hersh&#039;s juice is nosing around - it probably has a measure of effect on subsequent chain of events - but that&#039;s beside the point here. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went&#8230;I saw&#8230;I talked to&#8230;is not what I&#8217;m talking about. Hersh investigates and exposes. He doesn&#8217;t sink Soviet subs and contact the CIA to fish it out for intelligence purposes. He unwraps a story; he isn&#8217;t the story. Though I&#8217;ll agree when the CIA or other entity finds out someone with Hersh&#8217;s juice is nosing around &#8211; it probably has a measure of effect on subsequent chain of events &#8211; but that&#8217;s beside the point here. </p>
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		<title>By: avidd</title>
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		<dc:creator>avidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would anyone ever trust a journalist to be unbiased in their work? They aren&#039;t, and the bias that comes through is subtle only to the extent that you willfully ignore it. To insist that &quot;reputable news agencies&quot; report &quot;nothing but the facts&quot; is inviting yourself to be misled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would anyone ever trust a journalist to be unbiased in their work? They aren&#8217;t, and the bias that comes through is subtle only to the extent that you willfully ignore it. To insist that &#8220;reputable news agencies&#8221; report &#8220;nothing but the facts&#8221; is inviting yourself to be misled.</p>
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		<title>By: tor_berg</title>
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		<dc:creator>tor_berg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I wouldn&#039;t call it a tangent, since the contention was that Curran had been fired for violating NPR&#039;s code of ethics. 

a) She was not working for NPR

b) No one has indicated the specific way in which this code of ethics was violated (beyond your admonition to &quot;read it more clearly,&quot; a common Internet dodge by those who hope no one will check). Perhaps you could assist me in reading more clearly by quoting the section of NPR&#039;s ethics code that Curran violated.

c) According to NPR&#039;s code of ethics (which obviously weren&#039;t applied here), the correct response would have been to kill the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I wouldn&#8217;t call it a tangent, since the contention was that Curran had been fired for violating NPR&#8217;s code of ethics. </p>
<p>a) She was not working for NPR</p>
<p>b) No one has indicated the specific way in which this code of ethics was violated (beyond your admonition to &#8220;read it more clearly,&#8221; a common Internet dodge by those who hope no one will check). Perhaps you could assist me in reading more clearly by quoting the section of NPR&#8217;s ethics code that Curran violated.</p>
<p>c) According to NPR&#8217;s code of ethics (which obviously weren&#8217;t applied here), the correct response would have been to kill the story.</p>
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		<title>By: kipd</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/10/28/how-occupy-wall-street-cost-me-my-job.html#comment-1256235</link>
		<dc:creator>kipd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would put her journalistic ethics as a bit better than The Wall Street Journal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would put her journalistic ethics as a bit better than The Wall Street Journal.</p>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/10/28/how-occupy-wall-street-cost-me-my-job.html#comment-1256233</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What is an ethical violation is in participating in something like a protest, and then attempting to run a story about yourself and your involvement in it.  That&#039;s like... a big deal.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yeah, it&#039;s really honest reporting.  We certainly can&#039;t have &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; in this day and age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What is an ethical violation is in participating in something like a protest, and then attempting to run a story about yourself and your involvement in it.  That&#8217;s like&#8230; a big deal.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s really honest reporting.  We certainly can&#8217;t have <i>that</i> in this day and age.</p>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/10/28/how-occupy-wall-street-cost-me-my-job.html#comment-1256224</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So it&#039;s okay to have a bias as long as you publicly pretend that you do not?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yes, that&#039;s what most of her detractors here are basically saying.

Many are ridiculous and archaic at best.... or here with (ironically) dishonest, ulterior motives with anti-OWS agendas at worst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So it&#8217;s okay to have a bias as long as you publicly pretend that you do not?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, that&#8217;s what most of her detractors here are basically saying.</p>
<p>Many are ridiculous and archaic at best&#8230;. or here with (ironically) dishonest, ulterior motives with anti-OWS agendas at worst.</p>
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		<title>By: grimc</title>
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		<dc:creator>grimc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She was working for &lt;i&gt;The Takeaway&lt;/i&gt;, which is a WNYC/PRI production. Nothing to do with NPR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She was working for <i>The Takeaway</i>, which is a WNYC/PRI production. Nothing to do with NPR.</p>
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		<title>By: tor_berg</title>
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		<dc:creator>tor_berg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, NPR was not involved in this story. Curran was fired by a news director at WNYC. I have no direct knowledge of the quality of WNYC&#039;s journalistic endeavors, but rumor is that they&#039;re not good.

Further, no one has alleged that Curran was biased in her news reporting. She merely pitched a story in which she herself was a character, which, as many commenters have demonstrated, is quite common under a variety of circumstances. 

But in any case, the story she pitched was never undertaken, and it appears that you have no other materials by which to judge Ms. Curran&#039;s impartiality or lack thereof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, NPR was not involved in this story. Curran was fired by a news director at WNYC. I have no direct knowledge of the quality of WNYC&#8217;s journalistic endeavors, but rumor is that they&#8217;re not good.</p>
<p>Further, no one has alleged that Curran was biased in her news reporting. She merely pitched a story in which she herself was a character, which, as many commenters have demonstrated, is quite common under a variety of circumstances. </p>
<p>But in any case, the story she pitched was never undertaken, and it appears that you have no other materials by which to judge Ms. Curran&#8217;s impartiality or lack thereof.</p>
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		<title>By: t3kna2007</title>
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		<dc:creator>t3kna2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &gt; the two options should not be &quot;Pitch accepted&quot; and &quot;You&#039;re fired!&quot;

Laugh out loud over that one.  Well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> &gt; the two options should not be &#8220;Pitch accepted&#8221; and &#8220;You&#8217;re fired!&#8221;</p>
<p>Laugh out loud over that one.  Well said.</p>
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		<title>By: kipd</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/10/28/how-occupy-wall-street-cost-me-my-job.html#comment-1256210</link>
		<dc:creator>kipd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;strawman&quot;  ~   lame tired old ~ get with the new buzz words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;strawman&#8221;  ~   lame tired old ~ get with the new buzz words.</p>
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		<title>By: grimc</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/10/28/how-occupy-wall-street-cost-me-my-job.html#comment-1256206</link>
		<dc:creator>grimc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;d be nice to hear what the station gives as a reason for firing her. One-sided story is one-sided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;d be nice to hear what the station gives as a reason for firing her. One-sided story is one-sided.</p>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/10/28/how-occupy-wall-street-cost-me-my-job.html#comment-1256207</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The same gold standard that produced Judith Miller? The same gold standard that buries OWS news in the back pages? The same gold standard that midwifed the Iraq War? I do not think that word means what you think it means. And please tell all of this to the ghost of Jacob Riis. We need fiery muckraker activists, not professional stenographers for the wealthy power elite.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Amen.  ....and a double-backflip, Amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The same gold standard that produced Judith Miller? The same gold standard that buries OWS news in the back pages? The same gold standard that midwifed the Iraq War? I do not think that word means what you think it means. And please tell all of this to the ghost of Jacob Riis. We need fiery muckraker activists, not professional stenographers for the wealthy power elite.</p></blockquote>
<p>Amen.  &#8230;.and a double-backflip, Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: Gideon Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gideon Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were numerous new regulations.  Some better than others.  Pretty much all of them have been under constant attack by the teapartiers/Republicans since they took over the house. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were numerous new regulations.  Some better than others.  Pretty much all of them have been under constant attack by the teapartiers/Republicans since they took over the house. </p>
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