Comments on: Traders talk back to Occupy Chicago http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sun, 19 May 2013 20:33:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: markyoshi http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1261702 markyoshi Thu, 03 Nov 2011 00:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1261702 I think it's funny that this guy thinks that somehow the top 1% are going to overtake the middle class...  you're 1% of the population, dummy - pretty sure you're not *that* productive, especially without the incentive of an insane income.   I think it’s funny that this guy thinks that somehow the top 1% are going to overtake the middle class…  you’re 1% of the population, dummy – pretty sure you’re not *that* productive, especially without the incentive of an insane income.  

]]> By: Richard http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1260742 Richard Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1260742 Guess what, you'd better just hope that people don't realize the truth:  Wall St. is useless.  A vast toilet that sucks money from the economy.  We don't need it, it should go, completely.  When companies need capital, they can sell bonds.  The purchaser can be required to hold it for a certain amount of time without penalties.  A simple bond market could exist and Wall St. and all those parasites could go.  Hey Wall St., one final note: study biology.  When a parasite takes too much from the host, both die.  Who are you going to suck blood from when the economy tanks? Guess what, you’d better just hope that people don’t realize the truth:  Wall St. is useless.  A vast toilet that sucks money from the economy.  We don’t need it, it should go, completely. 
When companies need capital, they can sell bonds.  The purchaser can be required to hold it for a certain amount of time without penalties.  A simple bond market could exist and Wall St. and all those parasites could go. 
Hey Wall St., one final note: study biology.  When a parasite takes too much from the host, both die.  Who are you going to suck blood from when the economy tanks?

]]> By: Wrenchbender412i http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1260732 Wrenchbender412i Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:10:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1260732  Traders like this clown don't make anything or employ anyone. All they do is buy assets at one price, and resell them at a higher price, skimming value from the economy for themselves. It is they who are the parasites, not the taxpaying peasants they like to sneer at from their balconies.   Traders like this clown don’t make anything or employ anyone. All they do is buy assets at one price, and resell them at a higher price, skimming value from the economy for themselves. It is they who are the parasites, not the taxpaying peasants they like to sneer at from their balconies. 

]]> By: morisse http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1260596 morisse Wed, 02 Nov 2011 05:53:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1260596 Probably because the insanity level we've reached now was far in the future, job market was less desolated, and companies still paid salaries more or less related to the job done Probably because the insanity level we’ve reached now was far in the future, job market was less desolated, and companies still paid salaries more or less related to the job done

]]> By: greycanuck http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1260561 greycanuck Wed, 02 Nov 2011 04:31:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1260561 Some people 'complained'; you may not have noticed as the retirement funds of our parnets were eaten. Some people ‘complained’; you may not have noticed as the retirement funds of our parnets were eaten.

]]> By: Jeff Fuchs http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1260162 Jeff Fuchs Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:28:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1260162 While he's mowing his own grass and washing his own car, maybe he can fight his own wars! While he’s mowing his own grass and washing his own car, maybe he can fight his own wars!

]]> By: Kim http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1259801 Kim Tue, 01 Nov 2011 18:27:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1259801 I would LOVE to see this guy try to successfully teach a classroom of 3rd graders. Be my guest. Please. I would LOVE to see this guy try to successfully teach a classroom of 3rd graders. Be my guest. Please.

]]> By: NotInPoliteCompany http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1259734 NotInPoliteCompany Tue, 01 Nov 2011 17:56:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1259734 I thought "the 1%" were smarter than this.  When the 99% don't have jobs because the 1% didn't give back, the 99% will do whatever it takes to eat, to live ... to survive.  And it won't be by standing outside businesses chanting slogans or sleeping in tents in the park. I thought “the 1%” were smarter than this.  When the 99% don’t have jobs because the 1% didn’t give back, the 99% will do whatever it takes to eat, to live … to survive.  And it won’t be by standing outside businesses chanting slogans or sleeping in tents in the park.

]]> By: Brian Doom http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1259444 Brian Doom Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:50:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1259444 The idea of this guy trying to work as a teacher fills me with perverse glee The idea of this guy trying to work as a teacher fills me with perverse glee

]]> By: rastronomicals http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1258846 rastronomicals Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:40:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1258846 To any and all who are trying to make the case that the blame should be spread to all those who made an unrealistic home purchase let me say that I did in factas a first time home buyer  take out a mortgage on a 250,000 dollar home--beacuase everyone I was dealing with was too predatory to tell me a naive newbie the truth. Let me tell you there is VERY little left over each month aftter I pay the mortgage--and no-one should feel sorry for me either.  However when the thing that was sold to me drops from 250K to 85K in less than 24 months, meaning not only am I fucked right now, but will be for the rest of my life, THAT'S when I take issue with the way I was duped and that's when I call bullshit on this spread the blame argument. To any and all who are trying to make the case that the blame should be spread to all those who made an unrealistic home purchase let me say that I did in factas a first time home buyer  take out a mortgage on a 250,000 dollar home–beacuase everyone I was dealing with was too predatory to tell me a naive newbie the truth.
Let me tell you there is VERY little left over each month aftter I pay the mortgage–and no-one should feel sorry for me either.  However when the thing that was sold to me drops from 250K to 85K in less than 24 months, meaning not only am I fucked right now, but will be for the rest of my life, THAT’S when I take issue with the way I was duped and that’s when I call bullshit on this spread the blame argument.

]]> By: tomdarch http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1258745 tomdarch Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1258745 Corporations and unions are not equivalent.  No one can speculatively buy a share of a union.  A union is fundamentally its members and nothing else.  Corporations are just paperwork mechanisms for dividing up the full or partial ownership of a company (a wad of assetts - buildings, patents, stuff in a warehouse, etc.)  Just as a union is a group of workers sharing their common interest, I think that shareholders in a corporation should be able to organize and make political contributions that they think will benefit themselves vis a vis their stock in a company.  That organization of shareholders (US citizents) should, like a union, be able to influence politics.  But the corporation, being nothing but a paperwork mechanism, should not be able to make political contributions, or otherwise interfere in democracy.  This obviously goes against the underlying thinking of Citizens United, but my point is that people are people, corporations are not people, unions are groups of people, and thus, unions and corporations are not equivalent in terms of their role in US politics. Corporations and unions are not equivalent.  No one can speculatively buy a share of a union.  A union is fundamentally its members and nothing else.  Corporations are just paperwork mechanisms for dividing up the full or partial ownership of a company (a wad of assetts – buildings, patents, stuff in a warehouse, etc.)  Just as a union is a group of workers sharing their common interest, I think that shareholders in a corporation should be able to organize and make political contributions that they think will benefit themselves vis a vis their stock in a company.  That organization of shareholders (US citizents) should, like a union, be able to influence politics.  But the corporation, being nothing but a paperwork mechanism, should not be able to make political contributions, or otherwise interfere in democracy.  This obviously goes against the underlying thinking of Citizens United, but my point is that people are people, corporations are not people, unions are groups of people, and thus, unions and corporations are not equivalent in terms of their role in US politics.

]]> By: donovan acree http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1258599 donovan acree Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1258599 They gambled and we lost. They got our tax money and we lost jobs and homes. They gambled and we lost. They got our tax money and we lost jobs and homes.

]]> By: quartz99 http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1258462 quartz99 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:39:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1258462 <i>The average person has an IQ of 100, and the US has one of the worst school systems in the developed world. I'd say that it's impossible in practical terms for half the population to comprehend an amortized loan, even if they weren't being deliberately hornswoggled.</i> Hell, I have an IQ over 140, work in the finance sector (not at a bank thankfully), and _I_ have trouble following the way amortized loans work. The average person has an IQ of 100, and the US has one of the worst school systems in the developed world. I’d say that it’s impossible in practical terms for half the population to comprehend an amortized loan, even if they weren’t being deliberately hornswoggled.

Hell, I have an IQ over 140, work in the finance sector (not at a bank thankfully), and _I_ have trouble following the way amortized loans work.

]]> By: quartz99 http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1258448 quartz99 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1258448 Alvis, you think this because you think that the paperwork and documents that the people taking out the mortgages got was straightforward and not specifically set up to fail, and that people didn't have other problems that they couldn't forsee. For instance, people are signed up for a mortgage at something very affordable per month, like $1200/mo. For the middle-low, this is actually cheaper than rent, so it makes sense to take it. They can pay this. Then three years later, their payments balloon to $2200. Sometimes it was because the person holding the mortgage (who at this point is no longer the bank who took out the mortgage because it's been sold several times) held on to a payment check until after the day it was due so that they could start tacking on "late" fees. There's investigations into that going on right now because it was apparently fairly common, and the late fees imposed by these investors are prohibitive and in some cases illegally high. Some places impose fees and higher monthly payments if you pay any part of it _early_ even. Fees are considered a major revenue source for a bank. For a certain class of mortgage, that's actually in the repayment terms, not spurious fees, but this information is obscured by the broker because the broker and the initial bank don't have to deal with it when the loan defaults. They get paid for bringing the loan in. Then they make a commission for reselling the loan as an investment. They will do anything, say anything, forge anything, to get as many people to take out loans as they possibly can, and that means hiding the parts of the loan repayment that would make the person go "Oh, I won't be able to afford that." There is a whole business around foreclosure. The way it's set up now, they get money out of you whether you default or pay to the end. That's the point. And intersecting with both those fraudulent practices is the vicious downward cycle of the economy. That $1200/mo mortgage may have been eminently affordable when you were working full time, but then you got in a car accident and were in the hospital for a week, and lost your job over it so now you've got $100k worth of hospital bills that your insurance mysteriously refuses to cover, and no income, and now no insurance either (not that it ever really paid for anything but at least you weren't turned away at the door by doctors). You may be one of the lucky ones who managed to find a minimum wage job but you still have a mortgage and hospital bills and kids to feed. How do you pay your mortgage now? Alvis, you think this because you think that the paperwork and documents that the people taking out the mortgages got was straightforward and not specifically set up to fail, and that people didn’t have other problems that they couldn’t forsee. For instance, people are signed up for a mortgage at something very affordable per month, like $1200/mo. For the middle-low, this is actually cheaper than rent, so it makes sense to take it. They can pay this. Then three years later, their payments balloon to $2200.

Sometimes it was because the person holding the mortgage (who at this point is no longer the bank who took out the mortgage because it’s been sold several times) held on to a payment check until after the day it was due so that they could start tacking on “late” fees. There’s investigations into that going on right now because it was apparently fairly common, and the late fees imposed by these investors are prohibitive and in some cases illegally high. Some places impose fees and higher monthly payments if you pay any part of it _early_ even. Fees are considered a major revenue source for a bank.

For a certain class of mortgage, that’s actually in the repayment terms, not spurious fees, but this information is obscured by the broker because the broker and the initial bank don’t have to deal with it when the loan defaults. They get paid for bringing the loan in. Then they make a commission for reselling the loan as an investment. They will do anything, say anything, forge anything, to get as many people to take out loans as they possibly can, and that means hiding the parts of the loan repayment that would make the person go “Oh, I won’t be able to afford that.” There is a whole business around foreclosure. The way it’s set up now, they get money out of you whether you default or pay to the end. That’s the point.

And intersecting with both those fraudulent practices is the vicious downward cycle of the economy. That $1200/mo mortgage may have been eminently affordable when you were working full time, but then you got in a car accident and were in the hospital for a week, and lost your job over it so now you’ve got $100k worth of hospital bills that your insurance mysteriously refuses to cover, and no income, and now no insurance either (not that it ever really paid for anything but at least you weren’t turned away at the door by doctors). You may be one of the lucky ones who managed to find a minimum wage job but you still have a mortgage and hospital bills and kids to feed. How do you pay your mortgage now?

]]> By: Modusoperandi http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1258411 Modusoperandi Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1258411 That's odd. <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/12/business/12nocera.html?_r=1&dbk" rel="nofollow">F&F worked pretty well from 1938 until the 90s</a>. And more places did what F&F did. Places like "Wall Street investment banks". And <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/17/opinion/17krugman.html?_r=1&ref=paulkrugman" rel="nofollow">F&F sat out the middle of the bubble</a>, <i>losing</i> market share, only coming back in at the end in a foolhardy attempt to slow the pop. As owned, incompetent or optimistic as Frank and Dodd are, they're just symptoms, not the disease. That’s odd. F&F worked pretty well from 1938 until the 90s. And more places did what F&F did. Places like “Wall Street investment banks”. And F&F sat out the middle of the bubble, losing market share, only coming back in at the end in a foolhardy attempt to slow the pop.
As owned, incompetent or optimistic as Frank and Dodd are, they’re just symptoms, not the disease.

]]> By: dataninja http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1258304 dataninja Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:58:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1258304 LOL, you think those expensive NY athletic clubs are filled with who? Bus drivers? LOL, you think those expensive NY athletic clubs are filled with who? Bus drivers?

]]> By: dataninja http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1258302 dataninja Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1258302 So we should make political donations by unions illegal? Yeah, gotta hate that double edged sword huh? So we should make political donations by unions illegal?

Yeah, gotta hate that double edged sword huh?

]]> By: dataninja http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1258301 dataninja Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:56:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1258301 Without wall street there is less innovation. Without wall street money companies have hardly anything to invest. The truth is the U S Government caused this. They created 2 private enterprises that said they would buy ANYTHING Wall Street created, no matter how ubsurdly unfunded and unrealistic it's not even funny. Without fannie and freddie promissing the buy up all the bad loans, nobody makes them. BTW, Bush sent people to the Democraticly controlled House Committee on Financial Services and  Senate Banking Committee 18 times, and all they did was either lie, or not even look at what was being said. Personally, I believe the USA deserves this. We have voted in morons like Frank and Dodd that think every penny everyone makes is theirs to spend and it has to end. And since most of amercia can be bought with unconstututional handouts, it's going to take the next generation paying huge taxes to pay for their parents "free stuf" before we will see a seachange in who gets voted to run the USG. Without wall street there is less innovation. Without wall street money companies have hardly anything to invest.

The truth is the U S Government caused this. They created 2 private enterprises that said they would buy ANYTHING Wall Street created, no matter how ubsurdly unfunded and unrealistic it’s not even funny.

Without fannie and freddie promissing the buy up all the bad loans, nobody makes them.

BTW, Bush sent people to the Democraticly controlled House Committee on Financial Services and  Senate Banking Committee 18 times, and all they did was either lie, or not even look at what was being said.

Personally, I believe the USA deserves this. We have voted in morons like Frank and Dodd that think every penny everyone makes is theirs to spend and it has to end. And since most of amercia can be bought with unconstututional handouts, it’s going to take the next generation paying huge taxes to pay for their parents “free stuf” before we will see a seachange in who gets voted to run the USG.

]]> By: Stu Hackett http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1258226 Stu Hackett Mon, 31 Oct 2011 07:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1258226 So when capitalism collapses investment bankers will become teachers and not captains of industry. Sounds about right. So when capitalism collapses investment bankers will become teachers and not captains of industry. Sounds about right.

]]> By: Drew_Gehringer http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1258222 Drew_Gehringer Mon, 31 Oct 2011 07:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1258222 Admittedly he's wrong about what, exactly that 'something' is, but hey, I guess it's a start... Admittedly he’s wrong about what, exactly that ‘something’ is, but hey, I guess it’s a start…

]]> By: Drew_Gehringer http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1258221 Drew_Gehringer Mon, 31 Oct 2011 07:27:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1258221 No, it's about the fact that money gets you more political power in America then voting does, which isn't what's supposed to happen. No, it’s about the fact that money gets you more political power in America then voting does, which isn’t what’s supposed to happen.

]]> By: Tim http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1258214 Tim Mon, 31 Oct 2011 07:02:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1258214 "What’s going to happen when we can’t find jobs on the Street anymore? Guess what: We’re going to take yours." Yeah, that'd be a lot more threatening if any of you actually knew how to do anything useful. “What’s going to happen when we can’t find jobs on the Street anymore? Guess what: We’re going to take yours.”

Yeah, that’d be a lot more threatening if any of you actually knew how to do anything useful.

]]> By: k http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1258176 k Mon, 31 Oct 2011 04:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1258176 What a spectacular collection of self-serving lies.  "Didn't hear anyone complaining..." my huge hairy b*tt. There were millions of people point out the fact it was a scam, deliberately building a bubble to take advantage of naive investors, and they knew all along it would explode and leave this country in a huge stinking mess, and they didn't give a d*mn as long as they got rich. I'm a mechanic. Go ahead, Wall street jerk*off - carry out your threat. You've spend the last 20 years doing nothing but schmoozing potential investors in 3-martini lunches. Try to take my job. I could use a laugh. What a spectacular collection of self-serving lies.  “Didn’t hear anyone complaining…” my huge hairy b*tt. There were millions of people point out the fact it was a scam, deliberately building a bubble to take advantage of naive investors, and they knew all along it would explode and leave this country in a huge stinking mess, and they didn’t give a d*mn as long as they got rich.

I’m a mechanic. Go ahead, Wall street jerk*off – carry out your threat. You’ve spend the last 20 years doing nothing but schmoozing potential investors in 3-martini lunches. Try to take my job. I could use a laugh.

]]> By: SuperGauntlet http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1258129 SuperGauntlet Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1258129 Wow, what a dick. Wow, what a dick.

]]> By: Halloween Jack http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1258116 Halloween Jack Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:02:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1258116 This guy is wrong, but his attitude is absolutely unsurprising. These people are good at manipulating numbers, but few of them have aptitude for anything else. They think that all they have to do is get up earlier than anyone to take and hold their job, but if they tried to become teachers half of them would be fired within the first year and the other half would commit suicide. Go back to the This American Life episode where the bankers tell the reporter that the bailout had nothing to do with their continued financial success. They're pathetic. This guy is wrong, but his attitude is absolutely unsurprising. These people are good at manipulating numbers, but few of them have aptitude for anything else. They think that all they have to do is get up earlier than anyone to take and hold their job, but if they tried to become teachers half of them would be fired within the first year and the other half would commit suicide. Go back to the This American Life episode where the bankers tell the reporter that the bailout had nothing to do with their continued financial success. They’re pathetic.

]]> By: woot1 http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1258089 woot1 Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1258089 The Writer clearly does not work at the Chicago Board of Trade.  Traders do not work a full day like normal average workers.  At most they will work about 4 hours because that is how long most of the pits are open for trading.  I worked at the Chicago Board of Trade for a while on the floor and believe me, those traders know they have a good gig.  Whoever wrote this, wrote it on assumptions about traders without even knowing anything about their work. ***The writer does not work at the Chicago Board of Trade, because no one involved in trading works from  5am - 10pm.  Most trading pits are only open for 4 hours.  Any trader that has worked there would know this.*** The Writer clearly does not work at the Chicago Board of Trade.  Traders do not work a full day like normal average workers.  At most they will work about 4 hours because that is how long most of the pits are open for trading.  I worked at the Chicago Board of Trade for a while on the floor and believe me, those traders know they have a good gig.  Whoever wrote this, wrote it on assumptions about traders without even knowing anything about their work.

***The writer does not work at the Chicago Board of Trade, because no one involved in trading works from  5am – 10pm.  Most trading pits are only open for 4 hours.  Any trader that has worked there would know this.***

]]> By: Eric Hart http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1258026 Eric Hart Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1258026 The writer is a Poe, right? The writer is a Poe, right?

]]> By: SamSam http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1258000 SamSam Sun, 30 Oct 2011 20:39:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1258000 <blockquote>The guy is obviously a jerk, but he does have one or two valid points. I actually don'tremember people complaining about Wall Street in the 90's when so many were getting rich on paper.</blockquote> No one got mad at Bernie Madoff while they seemed to be making millions either, but that doesn't mean that what he was doing was right.

The guy is obviously a jerk, but he does have one or two valid points. I actually don’tremember people complaining about Wall Street in the 90′s when so many were getting rich on paper.

No one got mad at Bernie Madoff while they seemed to be making millions either, but that doesn’t mean that what he was doing was right.

]]> By: eryximachus http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1257941 eryximachus Sun, 30 Oct 2011 18:17:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1257941 Send them to work at McPukes and Walmart. Watch the suicide rate skyrocket within a week. Send them to work at McPukes and Walmart.

Watch the suicide rate skyrocket within a week.

]]> By: Sam Sandmel http://boingboing.net/2011/10/29/traders-talk-back-to-occupy-chicago.html#comment-1257929 Sam Sandmel Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:51:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=126795#comment-1257929 It isn't until the tide goes out that you can see who was swimming naked. It isn’t until the tide goes out that you can see who was swimming naked.

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