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	<title>Comments on: Entertainment industry incredibly profitable, healthy: but demands special pirate-hunting laws&#160;anyway</title>
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		<title>By: benher</title>
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		<dc:creator>benher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks! I think we all needed that. Consider that your first copyright strike!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! I think we all needed that. Consider that your first copyright strike!</p>
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		<title>By: elix</title>
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		<dc:creator>elix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 01:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody&#039;s saying copyright should be abolished.

The assertion being made is that the entertainment content industry is trying to reshape global law to benefit them to the disadvantage of everyone and everything else because of supposed losses due to piracy, when the actual numbers show them doing quite comfortably well and beating the average. They&#039;re trying to claim piracy as an excuse to manipulate the laws of sovereign countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody&#8217;s saying copyright should be abolished.</p>
<p>The assertion being made is that the entertainment content industry is trying to reshape global law to benefit them to the disadvantage of everyone and everything else because of supposed losses due to piracy, when the actual numbers show them doing quite comfortably well and beating the average. They&#8217;re trying to claim piracy as an excuse to manipulate the laws of sovereign countries.</p>
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		<title>By: lvl99</title>
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		<dc:creator>lvl99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 23:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s shit, but I can understand they&#039;re setting a precedent. If they didn&#039;t even attempt to chase up pirates and set motions in play to deter them then I&#039;m sure their profits would be more affected. Completely optional to hate the player, but most definitely hate the game.

It&#039;s very unrealistic in a capitalistic society to think &quot;hey, they have money so they don&#039;t need more!&quot; is justified. I suggest putting that energy into supporting local/grassroots bands/organisations. Keep that money closer to the ground rather than in the ivory towers, etc. I&#039;m an independent self-released artist and could really use some bones if you like my work 8)

www.b-warr-w.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s shit, but I can understand they&#8217;re setting a precedent. If they didn&#8217;t even attempt to chase up pirates and set motions in play to deter them then I&#8217;m sure their profits would be more affected. Completely optional to hate the player, but most definitely hate the game.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very unrealistic in a capitalistic society to think &#8220;hey, they have money so they don&#8217;t need more!&#8221; is justified. I suggest putting that energy into supporting local/grassroots bands/organisations. Keep that money closer to the ground rather than in the ivory towers, etc. I&#8217;m an independent self-released artist and could really use some bones if you like my work 8)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.b-warr-w.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.b-warr-w.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: KeithIrwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>KeithIrwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me if I have trouble understanding you point, but where exactly is the balance lacking?  No one here is arguing that copyright should be abolished, but we are arguing that there is a limit to the measures necessary to prevent copyright infringement.  All of your examples can be handled by lawsuit.  They don&#039;t need laws requiring DRM or laws against breaking locks on DRM or laws requiring that every ISP cut off anyone accused of violating copyright or laws which give you the right to hack other people&#039;s computers to find out if they&#039;re violating your copyright.  None of that will even help in your situation.  But these are exactly the things which the big guys are arguing that we absolutely must have to protect their copyrights.

As for some solutions which take the little guy into account, what&#039;s preventing you from getting legal remedies in the current system?  All we&#039;re saying is that we don&#039;t want more laws to take away more rights from anyone who isn&#039;t a record company or movie studio.  How is that inconsiderate to you?

And, frankly, I don&#039;t see how CC fits into this discussion at all.  All that CC offers is an optional license which falls between &quot;all rights reserved&quot; and &quot;no rights reserved&quot;.  It&#039;s not mandatory and no one is advocating making it so.  It&#039;s not an alternative set of laws which would replace copyright or anything like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me if I have trouble understanding you point, but where exactly is the balance lacking?  No one here is arguing that copyright should be abolished, but we are arguing that there is a limit to the measures necessary to prevent copyright infringement.  All of your examples can be handled by lawsuit.  They don&#8217;t need laws requiring DRM or laws against breaking locks on DRM or laws requiring that every ISP cut off anyone accused of violating copyright or laws which give you the right to hack other people&#8217;s computers to find out if they&#8217;re violating your copyright.  None of that will even help in your situation.  But these are exactly the things which the big guys are arguing that we absolutely must have to protect their copyrights.</p>
<p>As for some solutions which take the little guy into account, what&#8217;s preventing you from getting legal remedies in the current system?  All we&#8217;re saying is that we don&#8217;t want more laws to take away more rights from anyone who isn&#8217;t a record company or movie studio.  How is that inconsiderate to you?</p>
<p>And, frankly, I don&#8217;t see how CC fits into this discussion at all.  All that CC offers is an optional license which falls between &#8220;all rights reserved&#8221; and &#8220;no rights reserved&#8221;.  It&#8217;s not mandatory and no one is advocating making it so.  It&#8217;s not an alternative set of laws which would replace copyright or anything like it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Hornby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Hornby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one is saying we don&#039;t need copyright in any way - intellectual property is pretty important.

But that isn&#039;t really what this is about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one is saying we don&#8217;t need copyright in any way &#8211; intellectual property is pretty important.</p>
<p>But that isn&#8217;t really what this is about.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Hornby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Hornby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They don&#039;t need evidence, they&#039;ve got the government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They don&#8217;t need evidence, they&#8217;ve got the government.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Lenethen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Lenethen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s called a return for investment on campaign contributions... Gotta think about all those shareholders!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s called a return for investment on campaign contributions&#8230; Gotta think about all those shareholders!</p>
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		<title>By: Kiino Villand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiino Villand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m no fan of massive corporate entities &amp; wouldn&#039;t mind seeing a nice rattling of this modern state of Corporatism gripping our world like a serpent. 

That said, I&#039;m wondering what happens to the little guys &amp; girls who rely on copyright laws to keep things straight with our clients?  

Example: Client A wants me to do a photo shoot for 7 bones + expenses because they &quot;really like my work but have a super tight startup budget.&quot; I say, the only way I can agree to 7 bones is if you accept my license terms (which rely on copyright laws) for specific areas of use. Deal. Six months later Client A runs with the licensed images beyond our agreement, using the shots in a $Gazillion multi platform ad campaign (I think, oh snap, they actually had a &quot;budget&quot; after all) OR Third Party C thinks everything that reaches their monitor is free as a bird and creates an interactive calendar/game with my images. 

I must say, I like having recourse via laws that can help me, the little guy, in situations like that. 

So it would be cool to see some balance in this copyright debate. Perhaps some solutions that take the little guys and girls into consideration beyond what CC offers. That&#039;s reasonable isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no fan of massive corporate entities &amp; wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing a nice rattling of this modern state of Corporatism gripping our world like a serpent. </p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;m wondering what happens to the little guys &amp; girls who rely on copyright laws to keep things straight with our clients?  </p>
<p>Example: Client A wants me to do a photo shoot for 7 bones + expenses because they &#8220;really like my work but have a super tight startup budget.&#8221; I say, the only way I can agree to 7 bones is if you accept my license terms (which rely on copyright laws) for specific areas of use. Deal. Six months later Client A runs with the licensed images beyond our agreement, using the shots in a $Gazillion multi platform ad campaign (I think, oh snap, they actually had a &#8220;budget&#8221; after all) OR Third Party C thinks everything that reaches their monitor is free as a bird and creates an interactive calendar/game with my images. </p>
<p>I must say, I like having recourse via laws that can help me, the little guy, in situations like that. </p>
<p>So it would be cool to see some balance in this copyright debate. Perhaps some solutions that take the little guys and girls into consideration beyond what CC offers. That&#8217;s reasonable isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come all ye young fellows/
Who follow the sea/
Singing waaaay, heeeey/
Blow the man down!

And please pay attention/
And listen to me.../
...Give us some time/
To blow the man down!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come all ye young fellows/<br />
Who follow the sea/<br />
Singing waaaay, heeeey/<br />
Blow the man down!</p>
<p>And please pay attention/<br />
And listen to me&#8230;/<br />
&#8230;Give us some time/<br />
To blow the man down!</p>
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		<title>By: digi_owl</title>
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		<dc:creator>digi_owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;install spy cameras in every teenager&#039;s bedroom&quot;
and sell it as amateur porn?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;install spy cameras in every teenager&#8217;s bedroom&#8221;<br />
and sell it as amateur porn?</p>
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		<title>By: kdonohue</title>
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		<dc:creator>kdonohue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the report, most of the growth in the &quot;copyright industries&quot; over the past four years is in computer software.  Music and publishing are actually down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the report, most of the growth in the &#8220;copyright industries&#8221; over the past four years is in computer software.  Music and publishing are actually down.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaibaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaibaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We must also remember the RIAA or MPAA openly admitted they faked a Report on how &quot;Piracy&quot; Hurt the Entertainment Industry to force College campuses to crack down on students downloading files &quot;Illegally&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We must also remember the RIAA or MPAA openly admitted they faked a Report on how &#8220;Piracy&#8221; Hurt the Entertainment Industry to force College campuses to crack down on students downloading files &#8220;Illegally&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: flowergardenslayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>flowergardenslayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like you&#039;re preaching to the choir here.  I&#039;ve yet to see a post on Boing Boing or Slashdot supporting these draconian internet laws.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like you&#8217;re preaching to the choir here.  I&#8217;ve yet to see a post on Boing Boing or Slashdot supporting these draconian internet laws.  </p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We would truly be in dire straits if it were ever more profitable to move refrigerators and install microwave ovens than to play the guitar on your MTV. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We would truly be in dire straits if it were ever more profitable to move refrigerators and install microwave ovens than to play the guitar on your MTV. </p>
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		<title>By: sagodjur</title>
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		<dc:creator>sagodjur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every time you download a song, the entertainment company fires the unpaid intern who was in charge of that song. That is how piracy kills thousands of jobs, yet profits are usually up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every time you download a song, the entertainment company fires the unpaid intern who was in charge of that song. That is how piracy kills thousands of jobs, yet profits are usually up.</p>
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		<title>By: waldowv</title>
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		<dc:creator>waldowv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Begs the question ≠ raises the question.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Begs the question ≠ raises the question.  </p>
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		<title>By: angusm</title>
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		<dc:creator>angusm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;But think how much money we&#039;d have been able to make if we&#039;d been able to impose mandatory DRM on every computing device more powerful than a dishwasher, install spy cameras in every teenager&#039;s bedroom, and read all your email! By our most conservative estimate, we&#039;d have made so much money we could have bought South America as a vacation home for our CEO, and still had enough left over to fund a manned mission to Venus! That money is &lt;b&gt;ours&lt;/b&gt; by right, and we&#039;re not giving up until we get it!&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;But think how much money we&#8217;d have been able to make if we&#8217;d been able to impose mandatory DRM on every computing device more powerful than a dishwasher, install spy cameras in every teenager&#8217;s bedroom, and read all your email! By our most conservative estimate, we&#8217;d have made so much money we could have bought South America as a vacation home for our CEO, and still had enough left over to fund a manned mission to Venus! That money is <b>ours</b> by right, and we&#8217;re not giving up until we get it!&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: satn</title>
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		<dc:creator>satn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corporate policy it to always try to increase profits no matter what it takes, legal or otherwise. (&#039;if we get away with it, it&#039;s legal&#039;)

Screwing workers, firing workers, exporting jobs, screwing customers, poisoning customers, corrupting the legal system, bribing politicians, lying, bankrupting poor people.

All to increase dividends by 0.001%  so the CEO gets his $150 million bonus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corporate policy it to always try to increase profits no matter what it takes, legal or otherwise. (&#8216;if we get away with it, it&#8217;s legal&#8217;)</p>
<p>Screwing workers, firing workers, exporting jobs, screwing customers, poisoning customers, corrupting the legal system, bribing politicians, lying, bankrupting poor people.</p>
<p>All to increase dividends by 0.001%  so the CEO gets his $150 million bonus</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cocaine is expensive. QED. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cocaine is expensive. QED. </p>
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		<title>By: benher</title>
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		<dc:creator>benher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I for one demand more pirate-y songs ala Monkey Island!! Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum! </description>
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