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	<title>Comments on: Die Antwoord: &quot;Fok Julle Naaiers&quot; (music&#160;video)</title>
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		<title>By: nokiton</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1266536</link>
		<dc:creator>nokiton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really want to see these two team up w/ ICP - can you just imagine, 
&quot;Fok Julle Magnets - How do they work?!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really want to see these two team up w/ ICP &#8211; can you just imagine, <br />
&#8220;Fok Julle Magnets &#8211; How do they work?!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Wilkerson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1265322</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Wilkerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 22:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried to like this group. I think that Die Antwoord and ICP are in the same group. They are out there and only appealing to a small group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to like this group. I think that Die Antwoord and ICP are in the same group. They are out there and only appealing to a small group.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister44</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1265193</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 20:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2 Comments:

1) For the love of god, buy their album so they can afford some sammitches.

2) Interscope want them to have a broader appeal? Is this the same Interscope that released a NIN song with the chorus, &quot;I want to fuck you like an animal.&quot;? How many millions did that little album make them? Marilyn Manson? Anyone?

When  you sign freaks, don&#039;t be suprised when they produce something not main stream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 Comments:</p>
<p>1) For the love of god, buy their album so they can afford some sammitches.</p>
<p>2) Interscope want them to have a broader appeal? Is this the same Interscope that released a NIN song with the chorus, &#8220;I want to fuck you like an animal.&#8221;? How many millions did that little album make them? Marilyn Manson? Anyone?</p>
<p>When  you sign freaks, don&#8217;t be suprised when they produce something not main stream.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Coffin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1265057</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Coffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, they released another video explaining that DJ Hi Tek is gay and that they&#039;re not homophobic.  As a gay man, I don&#039;t totally agree with them on that, but I think it&#039;s good they addressed it and that Hi Tek came out.  Watch the response here:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://vimeo.com/31741727&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FAGGOT&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, they released another video explaining that DJ Hi Tek is gay and that they&#8217;re not homophobic.  As a gay man, I don&#8217;t totally agree with them on that, but I think it&#8217;s good they addressed it and that Hi Tek came out.  Watch the response here:  <a href="http://vimeo.com/31741727" rel="nofollow">FAGGOT</a></p>
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		<title>By: purple-stater</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264999</link>
		<dc:creator>purple-stater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 17:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]The fact that this pisses so many of you off means that they are doing a fine job.[/quote]

Don&#039;t mistake confusion, lack of interest, or simple dislike, with being pissed off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]The fact that this pisses so many of you off means that they are doing a fine job.[/quote]</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t mistake confusion, lack of interest, or simple dislike, with being pissed off.</p>
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		<title>By: IAmTheCheese</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264960</link>
		<dc:creator>IAmTheCheese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 16:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure that you &#039;get&#039; my comment. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure that you &#8216;get&#8217; my comment. </p>
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		<title>By: jph wacheski</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264908</link>
		<dc:creator>jph wacheski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 16:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this, I really don&#039;t think I would have seen it on ANY video/TV network.  These guys are creepy,. scary, and very challenging to most normal american sensibilities., 

I would like to see a feature film based around them., and it seems that this is in the works,. they really should get Guillermo del Toro to direct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this, I really don&#8217;t think I would have seen it on ANY video/TV network.  These guys are creepy,. scary, and very challenging to most normal american sensibilities., </p>
<p>I would like to see a feature film based around them., and it seems that this is in the works,. they really should get Guillermo del Toro to direct.</p>
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		<title>By: beigeinside</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264904</link>
		<dc:creator>beigeinside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 16:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite performance art is the really long-form kind that apparently never ends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite performance art is the really long-form kind that apparently never ends.</p>
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		<title>By: jonjonz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264816</link>
		<dc:creator>jonjonz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Die Atwood pitch meeting:

Hey we have not done snuff porn yet!

We are on it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Die Atwood pitch meeting:</p>
<p>Hey we have not done snuff porn yet!</p>
<p>We are on it!</p>
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		<title>By: Marktech</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264803</link>
		<dc:creator>Marktech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 12:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Does the KKK pissing off a lot of people mean they are doing a good job? What an idiotic statement to make!

These people are fakes carrying out a Blackface performance according to all the black South African scholars who&#039;s comments I&#039;ve read.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Well, gee, I can&#039;t keep track any more - can someone remind me what I&#039;m supposed to be outraged at?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Does the KKK pissing off a lot of people mean they are doing a good job? What an idiotic statement to make!</p>
<p>These people are fakes carrying out a Blackface performance according to all the black South African scholars who&#8217;s comments I&#8217;ve read.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, gee, I can&#8217;t keep track any more &#8211; can someone remind me what I&#8217;m supposed to be outraged at?  </p>
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		<title>By: magictoaster</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264800</link>
		<dc:creator>magictoaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 12:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, does anyone here watch The League?  At 3:34, thats clearly de Bobbum man, &quot;he creepy up in the bobbum van, filled with equipmunk for great grief for making at you underneath!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, does anyone here watch The League?  At 3:34, thats clearly de Bobbum man, &#8220;he creepy up in the bobbum van, filled with equipmunk for great grief for making at you underneath!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: geessebeschleier</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264793</link>
		<dc:creator>geessebeschleier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember seeing Ninja on deep space station K-7  some time ago , he was involved in a brawl with federation personnel at the bar and he was wearing some weird uniform ... weird indeed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember seeing Ninja on deep space station K-7  some time ago , he was involved in a brawl with federation personnel at the bar and he was wearing some weird uniform &#8230; weird indeed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bnschlz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264788</link>
		<dc:creator>bnschlz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where can one obtain a &#039;we are one&#039; megapenis doll!!!???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where can one obtain a &#8216;we are one&#8217; megapenis doll!!!???</p>
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		<title>By: miasm</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264786</link>
		<dc:creator>miasm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well I came here to make fun of those who didn&#039;t get it and then probably state the obvious but I see that&#039;s already been taken care of.
They are going to fuck you until you love them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well I came here to make fun of those who didn&#8217;t get it and then probably state the obvious but I see that&#8217;s already been taken care of.<br />
They are going to fuck you until you love them.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr P Fenderson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264771</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr P Fenderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 10:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for getting around to posting this before I had time to. It&#039;s amazing to me how many people don&#039;t realize that Ninja/Yolandi are characters that these amazing artists are playing. Watkin Tudor Jones and Anri du Toit are brilliant musicians who flawlessly wear these constructed personas, pushing people&#039;s buttons, limits, and emotions in every direction. The Constructus Corporation, with its amazing comic, was such a good meshing of musical styling with creative storytelling...hard to match. They learned well from the Enter the Ninja virality. Also highly recommend some of the sidework they do with other artists, like Fucknrad which they did with Simon Ringrose (Sibot) and Spoek Mathambo, among others - and The Original Evergreen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for getting around to posting this before I had time to. It&#8217;s amazing to me how many people don&#8217;t realize that Ninja/Yolandi are characters that these amazing artists are playing. Watkin Tudor Jones and Anri du Toit are brilliant musicians who flawlessly wear these constructed personas, pushing people&#8217;s buttons, limits, and emotions in every direction. The Constructus Corporation, with its amazing comic, was such a good meshing of musical styling with creative storytelling&#8230;hard to match. They learned well from the Enter the Ninja virality. Also highly recommend some of the sidework they do with other artists, like Fucknrad which they did with Simon Ringrose (Sibot) and Spoek Mathambo, among others &#8211; and The Original Evergreen.</p>
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		<title>By: Ex Post Facto</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264765</link>
		<dc:creator>Ex Post Facto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 09:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does the KKK pissing off a lot of people mean they are doing a good job? What an idiotic statement to make!

These people are fakes carrying out a Blackface performance according to all the black South African scholars who&#039;s comments I&#039;ve read. Read more here: http://africasacountry.com/2010/02/19/is-die-antwoord-blackface/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the KKK pissing off a lot of people mean they are doing a good job? What an idiotic statement to make!</p>
<p>These people are fakes carrying out a Blackface performance according to all the black South African scholars who&#8217;s comments I&#8217;ve read. Read more here: http://africasacountry.com/2010/02/19/is-die-antwoord-blackface/</p>
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		<title>By: Pend-O-Matic</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264762</link>
		<dc:creator>Pend-O-Matic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 09:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it seems they have had some difficulties with lairs, and lack of effeminate caucasian boys to sodomize while having salad? And you, him, him, and her haven&#039;t quickly enough had intercourse in an area far enough away from a man who may or may not belong to a warrior society of ancient asia ; as well as his companion who seems to somehow be involved with human trafficking and have a mild case of alopecia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it seems they have had some difficulties with lairs, and lack of effeminate caucasian boys to sodomize while having salad? And you, him, him, and her haven&#8217;t quickly enough had intercourse in an area far enough away from a man who may or may not belong to a warrior society of ancient asia ; as well as his companion who seems to somehow be involved with human trafficking and have a mild case of alopecia</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Ballash</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264760</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad Ballash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 09:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can appreciate that Die Antwoord is OMGsooperINDIE and doing things on their own terms, but I simply can&#039;t watch or listen to anything they put out.  Am I the only one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can appreciate that Die Antwoord is OMGsooperINDIE and doing things on their own terms, but I simply can&#8217;t watch or listen to anything they put out.  Am I the only one?</p>
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		<title>By: Pend-O-Matic</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264759</link>
		<dc:creator>Pend-O-Matic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 09:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve discovered a merger like the Pin-Pen Merger.
 In this merger, words that end in -en or -en merge with the vowel in words like pin or Tim. So, for example, my own name, Ben, sounds more like “bin,”  and hem sounds a bit like “him.” 
This is another academic term for something you’ll recognize the second you hear it the Cot-Caught Merger.  This is exactly what it sounds like: some dialects merge the sounds in words like cot, lot and Tom with the vowel in caught, paw, and thought.
  Dialects in the Western United states almost always have this merger; 
most dialects in the Eastern half of the US do not (with the exception 
of Northeastern New England).

So, whereas somebody from New Jersey might pronounce cot and caught as IPA kɑt and kɔt (“caht” and “cawht”), somebody from Los Angeles might pronounce these words as IPA kɑt and kɑt(“caht” and “caht”).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve discovered a merger like the Pin-Pen Merger.<br />
 In this merger, words that end in -en or -en merge with the vowel in words like pin or Tim. So, for example, my own name, Ben, sounds more like “bin,”  and hem sounds a bit like “him.”<br />
This is another academic term for something you’ll recognize the second you hear it the Cot-Caught Merger.  This is exactly what it sounds like: some dialects merge the sounds in words like cot, lot and Tom with the vowel in caught, paw, and thought.<br />
  Dialects in the Western United states almost always have this merger;<br />
most dialects in the Eastern half of the US do not (with the exception<br />
of Northeastern New England).</p>
<p>So, whereas somebody from New Jersey might pronounce cot and caught as IPA kɑt and kɔt (“caht” and “cawht”), somebody from Los Angeles might pronounce these words as IPA kɑt and kɑt(“caht” and “caht”).</p>
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		<title>By: danegeld</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264748</link>
		<dc:creator>danegeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 08:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Die Antwoord is like all : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDthMGtZKa4  : yep we can do it! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Die Antwoord is like all : <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDthMGtZKa4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDthMGtZKa4</a>  : yep we can do it! </p>
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		<title>By: mdot</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264735</link>
		<dc:creator>mdot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 07:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“No matter how skillful you are, you can&#039;t invent a product advantage that doesn&#039;t exist. And if you do, and it&#039;s just a gimmick, it&#039;s going to fall apart anyway.” 
-William Bernbach

The label caught on and bailed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“No matter how skillful you are, you can&#8217;t invent a product advantage that doesn&#8217;t exist. And if you do, and it&#8217;s just a gimmick, it&#8217;s going to fall apart anyway.”<br />
-William Bernbach</p>
<p>The label caught on and bailed.</p>
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		<title>By: ciacontra</title>
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		<dc:creator>ciacontra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 06:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to be with it, but then they changed what &#039;it&#039; was. 
Now what I&#039;m with isn&#039;t it, and what&#039;s it seems weird and scary to me.
And it&#039;ll happen to YOU...
- Grandpa Simpson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to be with it, but then they changed what &#8216;it&#8217; was.<br />
Now what I&#8217;m with isn&#8217;t it, and what&#8217;s it seems weird and scary to me.<br />
And it&#8217;ll happen to YOU&#8230;<br />
- Grandpa Simpson</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Linhart</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264707</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Linhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 05:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antinous, are you claiming that the language in this video represents some established gay identity group?  If not, what are you on about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antinous, are you claiming that the language in this video represents some established gay identity group?  If not, what are you on about?</p>
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		<title>By: Incipient Madness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Incipient Madness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 04:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could the Afrikaans word &quot;julle&quot;, derived from Dutch, be a cognate with the word &quot;yall&quot;? Did Dutch speakers in the colonial US introduce &quot;julle&quot; which became &quot;y&#039;all&quot; in Southern dialect? There used to be plenty of Dutch speakers in Charleston and Savannah. Could &quot;julle&quot; have been borrowed into Southern dialect and the notion that it&#039;s a contraction of &quot;you all&quot; be a later justification? 

I have always been a defender of &quot;y&#039;all&quot;. English needs a second person plural pronoun and &quot;y&#039;all&quot; is the best candidate. If we can prove it&#039;s a loan word from Dutch, maybe we can start spelling it &#039;yall&quot; with no apostrophe. BTW I hate the idea of AAVE or Ebonics. I&#039;m white and speak Urban Southern as my formal dialect, but my informal dialect is pretty close to AAVE, otherwise known as Ebonics. AAVE, like soul food, is a northern concept. AAVE is almost the same as the dialect of rural white folks, and soul food is what this white boy grew up on when we had a big garden when I was a kid. I loved eating salads and steamed greens all winter. Yup, you can&#039;t grow the salad crops in the summer, but they do fine most winters. Gotta plant your tomatoes in February to have a hope. Heat and bugs will kill them by August first. That&#039;s why there are fried green tomatoes. Okra and peppers are the only crops that yield from late July to mid September

Thing that bugs me the most is people with a southern accent saying &quot;you guys&quot;. My SIL, who is a technical writer for a major international software company and otherwise has a perfect northeast Texas accent. It was all so charming as I thought my AAVE influenced accent my brother and I used was so much more sophisticated. She pronounced &quot;rat&quot; and &quot;right&quot; almost the same. I could hear the difference with my tuned ear. But when I moved to Virginia they thought I said &quot;rat&quot; and &quot;right&quot; the same way. What? Didn&#039;t they hear the pitch inflections? &quot;Rat&quot; starts high and descends. &quot;Right&quot; starts deeper,  ascends, and ends deep. Neither has a terminal consonant, which probably confuses most white folks away from the Gulf Coast. 

Black folks up north understand my most informal dialect. I was aggressively panhandled to the point of a mugging at the Port Authority first time I ever went to New York, and got out of it by speaking holmes&#039; language. 

AAVE and Ebonics is a joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could the Afrikaans word &#8220;julle&#8221;, derived from Dutch, be a cognate with the word &#8220;yall&#8221;? Did Dutch speakers in the colonial US introduce &#8220;julle&#8221; which became &#8220;y&#8217;all&#8221; in Southern dialect? There used to be plenty of Dutch speakers in Charleston and Savannah. Could &#8220;julle&#8221; have been borrowed into Southern dialect and the notion that it&#8217;s a contraction of &#8220;you all&#8221; be a later justification? </p>
<p>I have always been a defender of &#8220;y&#8217;all&#8221;. English needs a second person plural pronoun and &#8220;y&#8217;all&#8221; is the best candidate. If we can prove it&#8217;s a loan word from Dutch, maybe we can start spelling it &#8216;yall&#8221; with no apostrophe. BTW I hate the idea of AAVE or Ebonics. I&#8217;m white and speak Urban Southern as my formal dialect, but my informal dialect is pretty close to AAVE, otherwise known as Ebonics. AAVE, like soul food, is a northern concept. AAVE is almost the same as the dialect of rural white folks, and soul food is what this white boy grew up on when we had a big garden when I was a kid. I loved eating salads and steamed greens all winter. Yup, you can&#8217;t grow the salad crops in the summer, but they do fine most winters. Gotta plant your tomatoes in February to have a hope. Heat and bugs will kill them by August first. That&#8217;s why there are fried green tomatoes. Okra and peppers are the only crops that yield from late July to mid September</p>
<p>Thing that bugs me the most is people with a southern accent saying &#8220;you guys&#8221;. My SIL, who is a technical writer for a major international software company and otherwise has a perfect northeast Texas accent. It was all so charming as I thought my AAVE influenced accent my brother and I used was so much more sophisticated. She pronounced &#8220;rat&#8221; and &#8220;right&#8221; almost the same. I could hear the difference with my tuned ear. But when I moved to Virginia they thought I said &#8220;rat&#8221; and &#8220;right&#8221; the same way. What? Didn&#8217;t they hear the pitch inflections? &#8220;Rat&#8221; starts high and descends. &#8220;Right&#8221; starts deeper,  ascends, and ends deep. Neither has a terminal consonant, which probably confuses most white folks away from the Gulf Coast. </p>
<p>Black folks up north understand my most informal dialect. I was aggressively panhandled to the point of a mugging at the Port Authority first time I ever went to New York, and got out of it by speaking holmes&#8217; language. </p>
<p>AAVE and Ebonics is a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: Palomino</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264688</link>
		<dc:creator>Palomino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 03:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boing Boing had a great post about people who swear a lot are sending a message they  want to be left alone and are very unapproachable. 

&quot;Fuck&quot; is a publicly owned  brand for anyone who can&#039;t (or are unable) to say what they really feel.

AT HOME: &quot;There&#039;s this guy named Rick at work who bullies me, he won&#039;t leave me alone and my boss doesn&#039;t seem to want to do anything about it. Rick is  a bully, I&#039;m sure he has  my boss wrapped around his finger too.&quot; (At work they would respond, &quot;Dude, you sound like a pussy, get over it!&quot;)

AT WORK: &quot;That  mother fucker Rick keeps fuckin with me, he totally fuckin  ruins my fuckin day. I think he fucks our boss in the fuckin ass and now my boss is fuckin me....Fuckers!&quot; (Oh man, that&#039;s fucked up, fuck him.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boing Boing had a great post about people who swear a lot are sending a message they  want to be left alone and are very unapproachable. </p>
<p>&#8220;Fuck&#8221; is a publicly owned  brand for anyone who can&#8217;t (or are unable) to say what they really feel.</p>
<p>AT HOME: &#8220;There&#8217;s this guy named Rick at work who bullies me, he won&#8217;t leave me alone and my boss doesn&#8217;t seem to want to do anything about it. Rick is  a bully, I&#8217;m sure he has  my boss wrapped around his finger too.&#8221; (At work they would respond, &#8220;Dude, you sound like a pussy, get over it!&#8221;)</p>
<p>AT WORK: &#8220;That  mother fucker Rick keeps fuckin with me, he totally fuckin  ruins my fuckin day. I think he fucks our boss in the fuckin ass and now my boss is fuckin me&#8230;.Fuckers!&#8221; (Oh man, that&#8217;s fucked up, fuck him.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Nelson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264683</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 03:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woosh.</description>
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		<title>By: grs</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264680</link>
		<dc:creator>grs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 02:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why my last comment got nixed. I think they&#039;re stealing ICP&#039;s schtick - the coveted Juggalo demographic. The lyrics are trite. They&#039;re not clever in the slightest bit. It&#039;s like a 13 year old boy learning how to swear. The beats are generic and weak. It&#039;s very forgettable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why my last comment got nixed. I think they&#8217;re stealing ICP&#8217;s schtick &#8211; the coveted Juggalo demographic. The lyrics are trite. They&#8217;re not clever in the slightest bit. It&#8217;s like a 13 year old boy learning how to swear. The beats are generic and weak. It&#8217;s very forgettable.</p>
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		<title>By: hungryjoe</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264676</link>
		<dc:creator>hungryjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 02:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet they didn&#039;t ever intend to release this through Interscope.  They&#039;re like a caricature of Hip Hop, right down to the language that has oddly drawn a response here.  They&#039;re not really innovating, they&#039;re just responding to what&#039;s gone before.  And taking it to its logical conclusion.

I love what they&#039;re doing, and I hope they achieve whatever they&#039;re going for, whether it&#039;s money or prison time or whatever.  But there&#039;s nothing here that makes me want to hear more (or again).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet they didn&#8217;t ever intend to release this through Interscope.  They&#8217;re like a caricature of Hip Hop, right down to the language that has oddly drawn a response here.  They&#8217;re not really innovating, they&#8217;re just responding to what&#8217;s gone before.  And taking it to its logical conclusion.</p>
<p>I love what they&#8217;re doing, and I hope they achieve whatever they&#8217;re going for, whether it&#8217;s money or prison time or whatever.  But there&#8217;s nothing here that makes me want to hear more (or again).</p>
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		<title>By: Marcelo Teson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264668</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcelo Teson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 02:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See I thought they were hating on Linnaeus. I was all, &quot;what&#039;s wrong with taxonomy?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See I thought they were hating on Linnaeus. I was all, &#8220;what&#8217;s wrong with taxonomy?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Maddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/07/die-antwoord-fok.html#comment-1264669</link>
		<dc:creator>Maddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 02:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to be a hater -- but -- the f-bombs and whatnot really don&#039;t put me off.  It&#039;s the quality of the rap.  It&#039;s pretty ancient.  Maybe they&#039;re trying to do retro-rap?  I dunno.  You compare this to the freshness of dubstep and it seems very outdated ...

Like art college kids slumming it in rap ... at least the effect/pitch on her voice was interesting ... he&#039;s got zero flow, which I guess he was trying to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to be a hater &#8212; but &#8212; the f-bombs and whatnot really don&#8217;t put me off.  It&#8217;s the quality of the rap.  It&#8217;s pretty ancient.  Maybe they&#8217;re trying to do retro-rap?  I dunno.  You compare this to the freshness of dubstep and it seems very outdated &#8230;</p>
<p>Like art college kids slumming it in rap &#8230; at least the effect/pitch on her voice was interesting &#8230; he&#8217;s got zero flow, which I guess he was trying to do?</p>
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