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	<title>Comments on: Robert Crumb&#039;s Rejected New Yorker&#160;Cover</title>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/12/robert-crumbs-rejected-new-y.html#comment-1270668</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention having original comic artwork in museums and numerous important collections.</description>
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		<title>By: donovan acree</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/12/robert-crumbs-rejected-new-y.html#comment-1270298</link>
		<dc:creator>donovan acree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all of those who feel the need to state that Crumb&#039;s work isn&#039;t very good, raise your hand if your oeuvre has received of the Grand Prix de la ville d&#039;Angoulême, a Harvey Special Award for Humor, had an award winning documentary filmed about yourself, or have been displayed in the Masters of American Comics exhibition.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all of those who feel the need to state that Crumb&#8217;s work isn&#8217;t very good, raise your hand if your oeuvre has received of the Grand Prix de la ville d&#8217;Angoulême, a Harvey Special Award for Humor, had an award winning documentary filmed about yourself, or have been displayed in the Masters of American Comics exhibition.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/12/robert-crumbs-rejected-new-y.html#comment-1269893</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Crumb fan from way back (I have some first edition Zap comix) but I&#039;m not crazy about the cover. Doesn&#039;t justify how he was treated and it may be that Tina Brown had departed that she was his biggest fan at the magazine (this is speculation).

Art Spiegleman did a controversial cover with, if memory serves, a Hassidic Jewish man kissing a black woman. Barry Blitt did the infamous Michelle Obama as Angela Davis cover... so it&#039;s not like the magazine is shying away from edgy stuff. It may be that this just wasn&#039;t up to Crumb&#039;s usual standards and a dumb art editor failed to communicate properly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Crumb fan from way back (I have some first edition Zap comix) but I&#8217;m not crazy about the cover. Doesn&#8217;t justify how he was treated and it may be that Tina Brown had departed that she was his biggest fan at the magazine (this is speculation).</p>
<p>Art Spiegleman did a controversial cover with, if memory serves, a Hassidic Jewish man kissing a black woman. Barry Blitt did the infamous Michelle Obama as Angela Davis cover&#8230; so it&#8217;s not like the magazine is shying away from edgy stuff. It may be that this just wasn&#8217;t up to Crumb&#8217;s usual standards and a dumb art editor failed to communicate properly.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...throwing trans people under the bus to advance the gay agenda. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
That&#039;s a rather grand accusation.  Would you care to explain it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;throwing trans people under the bus to advance the gay agenda. </p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s a rather grand accusation.  Would you care to explain it?</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Morrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s transphobic. Those ideas hurt people. No, it is not funny. No, it is not redeemed by - yet again - throwing trans people under the bus to advance the gay agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s transphobic. Those ideas hurt people. No, it is not funny. No, it is not redeemed by &#8211; yet again &#8211; throwing trans people under the bus to advance the gay agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: benher</title>
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		<dc:creator>benher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly. I don&#039;t think enough people in here read the article regarding exactly why Crumb is cheesed off. 

I draw for dollars and have been for over a decade. No response for months is just a case of client flakery - whether it&#039;s the NYer or the Donut shop up the street. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. I don&#8217;t think enough people in here read the article regarding exactly why Crumb is cheesed off. </p>
<p>I draw for dollars and have been for over a decade. No response for months is just a case of client flakery &#8211; whether it&#8217;s the NYer or the Donut shop up the street. </p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I feel that&#039;s part of an editor&#039;s job. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Unfortunately, many people seem to focus on the paycheck aspect of their jobs to the detriment of the work aspect. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I feel that&#8217;s part of an editor&#8217;s job. </p></blockquote>
<p>Unfortunately, many people seem to focus on the paycheck aspect of their jobs to the detriment of the work aspect. </p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;m assuming this is relatively normal for the magazine industry.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Mr. Crumb has worked with various magazines and publishers for quite a few years now. I think he probably has some sense of how the industry normally works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I&#8217;m assuming this is relatively normal for the magazine industry.</p></blockquote>
<p>Mr. Crumb has worked with various magazines and publishers for quite a few years now. I think he probably has some sense of how the industry normally works.</p>
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		<title>By: birdmechanical</title>
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		<dc:creator>birdmechanical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why Mr. Crumb would be that angry about it.

I&#039;m assuming this is relatively normal for the magazine industry. They ask someone to submit a cover design, it&#039;s not automatically accepted, they may have others doing drafts as well. In the end, the company decides what cover is best for their magazine/issue. It is business and it isn&#039;t personal.

Sure, it was rude for them not to converse more with him over the rejection, but I&#039;m fairly certain Crumb has someone he talks to at New Yorker if he really wants to know. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why Mr. Crumb would be that angry about it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m assuming this is relatively normal for the magazine industry. They ask someone to submit a cover design, it&#8217;s not automatically accepted, they may have others doing drafts as well. In the end, the company decides what cover is best for their magazine/issue. It is business and it isn&#8217;t personal.</p>
<p>Sure, it was rude for them not to converse more with him over the rejection, but I&#8217;m fairly certain Crumb has someone he talks to at New Yorker if he really wants to know. </p>
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		<title>By: Teller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough and good on ya. And I&#039;d bet your explanations are in lieu of payment, the soothing balm which Mr. Crumb received. My suspicious nature tells me Mr. Crumb wishes to know why his artwork was not &quot;suitable&quot; in order to create more controversy about Remnick&#039;s view of gender issues. But I&#039;ve got a dog&#039;s view of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough and good on ya. And I&#8217;d bet your explanations are in lieu of payment, the soothing balm which Mr. Crumb received. My suspicious nature tells me Mr. Crumb wishes to know why his artwork was not &#8220;suitable&#8221; in order to create more controversy about Remnick&#8217;s view of gender issues. But I&#8217;ve got a dog&#8217;s view of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark_Frauenfelder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark_Frauenfelder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crumb deserves an explanation. As an editor (5 years at Wired and 7+ years at MAKE) I have rejected hundreds of stories and pitches. I send a rejection letter that explains why the story was not suitable. I feel that&#039;s part of an editor&#039;s job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crumb deserves an explanation. As an editor (5 years at Wired and 7+ years at MAKE) I have rejected hundreds of stories and pitches. I send a rejection letter that explains why the story was not suitable. I feel that&#8217;s part of an editor&#8217;s job.</p>
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		<title>By: Teller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My backhand point exactly. Rejections happen all the time at the NYer. Mr. Crumb demands to know why. And he&#039;s pissed. I get it. But is this really about Mr. Crumb not getting an explanation, or about the NYer&#039;s perceived slam against s-s marriage or gender issues? Because the last thing anyone could say about the NYer is that it doesn&#039;t embrace s-s marriage or gender issues. It&#039;s a big supporter. So maybe Remnick just doesn&#039;t like the artwork. Or the expression on the clerk. Or the sign &quot;Gender Inspection&quot; which doesn&#039;t seem to exist according to the NY laws: http://www.cityclerk.nyc.gov/html/marriage/same_sex_couples_faq.shtml. Maybe he just likes what Sempe submitted more. Who knows? Do you feel the need to explain what you do or don&#039;t post on your blog? You explain if you want and don&#039;t if you don&#039;t. It&#039;s your discretion as editor. That said, I&#039;m not a big fan of Remnick, so I don&#039;t mind him being in hot water with a &quot;counterculture&quot; artist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My backhand point exactly. Rejections happen all the time at the NYer. Mr. Crumb demands to know why. And he&#8217;s pissed. I get it. But is this really about Mr. Crumb not getting an explanation, or about the NYer&#8217;s perceived slam against s-s marriage or gender issues? Because the last thing anyone could say about the NYer is that it doesn&#8217;t embrace s-s marriage or gender issues. It&#8217;s a big supporter. So maybe Remnick just doesn&#8217;t like the artwork. Or the expression on the clerk. Or the sign &#8220;Gender Inspection&#8221; which doesn&#8217;t seem to exist according to the NY laws: <a href="http://www.cityclerk.nyc.gov/html/marriage/same_sex_couples_faq.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.cityclerk.nyc.gov/html/marriage/same_sex_couples_faq.shtml</a>. Maybe he just likes what Sempe submitted more. Who knows? Do you feel the need to explain what you do or don&#8217;t post on your blog? You explain if you want and don&#8217;t if you don&#8217;t. It&#8217;s your discretion as editor. That said, I&#8217;m not a big fan of Remnick, so I don&#8217;t mind him being in hot water with a &#8220;counterculture&#8221; artist.</p>
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		<title>By: The Chemist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Chemist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of people didn&#039;t read the damn article.

&lt;blockquote&gt;An apology? I don’t expect an apology. But if I’m going to work for them I need to know the criteria for why they accept or reject work. The art I made, it only really works as a New Yorker cover. There’s really no other place for it. But they did pay me beforehand—decent money. I have no complaint there. I asked Françoise what was going on with it and she said, “Oh, Remnick hasn’t decided yet…” and he changed his mind several times about it. I asked why and she didn’t know. Several months passed. Then one day, I got the art back in the mail, no letter, no nothing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Nowdjagetit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of people didn&#8217;t read the damn article.</p>
<blockquote><p>An apology? I don’t expect an apology. But if I’m going to work for them I need to know the criteria for why they accept or reject work. The art I made, it only really works as a New Yorker cover. There’s really no other place for it. But they did pay me beforehand—decent money. I have no complaint there. I asked Françoise what was going on with it and she said, “Oh, Remnick hasn’t decided yet…” and he changed his mind several times about it. I asked why and she didn’t know. Several months passed. Then one day, I got the art back in the mail, no letter, no nothing.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nowdjagetit?</p>
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		<title>By: Mordicai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mordicai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah!  Well, at least my comment criticized his piece, so he&#039;d be fine with it, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah!  Well, at least my comment criticized his piece, so he&#8217;d be fine with it, right?</p>
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		<title>By: HenryPootel</title>
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		<dc:creator>HenryPootel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think Robert Crumb is an unlikely candidate for New Yorker cartoonist, because his illustrations are neither boring nor conservative enough for the average subscriber, but what do you think?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
What do I think?  That you really don&#039;t understand the New Yorker or it&#039;s readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think Robert Crumb is an unlikely candidate for New Yorker cartoonist, because his illustrations are neither boring nor conservative enough for the average subscriber, but what do you think?</p></blockquote>
<p>What do I think?  That you really don&#8217;t understand the New Yorker or it&#8217;s readers.</p>
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		<title>By: blueelm</title>
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		<dc:creator>blueelm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 04:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like this. It&#039;s challenging. I think all the best discussion has already happened here but for me the key to reading it was the &quot;gender inspection&quot; sign. They&#039;re *getting* their license which means to me they must have passed inspection, however uncomfortable that makes the clerk. If I had to guess I&#039;d guess that the editor wanted something a little less confrontational and a little easier to read like a cake with two grooms. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like this. It&#8217;s challenging. I think all the best discussion has already happened here but for me the key to reading it was the &#8220;gender inspection&#8221; sign. They&#8217;re *getting* their license which means to me they must have passed inspection, however uncomfortable that makes the clerk. If I had to guess I&#8217;d guess that the editor wanted something a little less confrontational and a little easier to read like a cake with two grooms. </p>
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		<title>By: dainty</title>
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		<dc:creator>dainty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sympathize with Mr.Crumb. Rejection can be difficult, especially when it comes without any reason or explanation. But it happens to the best of us. May I suggest that he just &quot;keep on truckin&#039;&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sympathize with Mr.Crumb. Rejection can be difficult, especially when it comes without any reason or explanation. But it happens to the best of us. May I suggest that he just &#8220;keep on truckin&#8217;&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: teufelsdrochk</title>
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		<dc:creator>teufelsdrochk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you tell someone your work is finished when it&#039;s turned in, that&#039;s it, and they can &quot;take it or leave it&quot;, you shouldn&#039;t be surprised if they decide to leave it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
And, if Crumb were anything less than the definition of illustration for a generation-plus, I&#039;d agree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you tell someone your work is finished when it&#8217;s turned in, that&#8217;s it, and they can &#8220;take it or leave it&#8221;, you shouldn&#8217;t be surprised if they decide to leave it.</p></blockquote>
<p>And, if Crumb were anything less than the definition of illustration for a generation-plus, I&#8217;d agree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: VerySincerely</title>
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		<dc:creator>VerySincerely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The confused looking man behind the window is the New Yorker (and maybe the audience too). It&#039;s not exactly clear what we&#039;re looking at (as the comments here demonstrate), and this makes people uncomfortable. What&#039;s the gender of the people represented? We don&#039;t know. And the ambiguity both of the people represented and of the meaning suggested is uncomfortable. Accept, reject, accept, reject, give up. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The confused looking man behind the window is the New Yorker (and maybe the audience too). It&#8217;s not exactly clear what we&#8217;re looking at (as the comments here demonstrate), and this makes people uncomfortable. What&#8217;s the gender of the people represented? We don&#8217;t know. And the ambiguity both of the people represented and of the meaning suggested is uncomfortable. Accept, reject, accept, reject, give up. </p>
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		<title>By: Erik Rook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik Rook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it.  I probably would have given it a precursory look before opening the mag, perhaps I  would have even read the little paragraph about it.   The comments here with there breadth of opinion about the piece were more entertaining then the piece itself  (not that it was bad).      </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it.  I probably would have given it a precursory look before opening the mag, perhaps I  would have even read the little paragraph about it.   The comments here with there breadth of opinion about the piece were more entertaining then the piece itself  (not that it was bad).      </p>
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		<title>By: ssorchybba</title>
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		<dc:creator>ssorchybba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this guy from Neatorama thinks New Yorker subscribers expect boring and conservative content, then I would guess he has never read a New Yorker. An artist can be rejected after submitting to anything, I really don&#039;t get this post. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this guy from Neatorama thinks New Yorker subscribers expect boring and conservative content, then I would guess he has never read a New Yorker. An artist can be rejected after submitting to anything, I really don&#8217;t get this post. </p>
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		<title>By: Mark_Frauenfelder</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/12/robert-crumbs-rejected-new-y.html#comment-1269166</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark_Frauenfelder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I can&#039;t believe The New Yorker rejected a magazine cover.&quot;

Really? It happens all the time. That&#039;s not even what this is about, and Crumb said he didn&#039;t care that it was rejected. What are you trying to say here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I can&#8217;t believe The New Yorker rejected a magazine cover.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really? It happens all the time. That&#8217;s not even what this is about, and Crumb said he didn&#8217;t care that it was rejected. What are you trying to say here?</p>
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		<title>By: Teller</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/12/robert-crumbs-rejected-new-y.html#comment-1269161</link>
		<dc:creator>Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe The New Yorker rejected a magazine cover. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe The New Yorker rejected a magazine cover. </p>
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		<title>By: amydavidson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/12/robert-crumbs-rejected-new-y.html#comment-1269151</link>
		<dc:creator>amydavidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a link to slideshow of previous wedding-themed New Yorker covers (scroll down to view the slideshow). You&#039;ll find depictions of same-sex couples, cross-dressing, polygamy, and old-fashioned trophy wives.
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/07/cover-story-the-aisle-of-manhattan.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a link to slideshow of previous wedding-themed New Yorker covers (scroll down to view the slideshow). You&#8217;ll find depictions of same-sex couples, cross-dressing, polygamy, and old-fashioned trophy wives.<br />
<a href="http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/07/cover-story-the-aisle-of-manhattan.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/07/cover-story-the-aisle-of-manhattan.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Amy L Sacks</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/12/robert-crumbs-rejected-new-y.html#comment-1269148</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy L Sacks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...FYI: Yes job seekers frequently get rejected without reason.  But there&#039;s a big difference between joe lunchpail and someone working at the top of their field...&lt;/i&gt;

No.  I don&#039;t think so.  I think those of us who try to perform assigned tasks to the best of our abilities deserve more than just vague assertions that &quot;It&#039;s not working out&quot; as we&#039;re hustled towards the door.   I frankly don&#039;t give a rat&#039;s ass what the tasks in question are.  We all deserve common consideration from our alleged superiors, but it&#039;s very rare for us to actually get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;FYI: Yes job seekers frequently get rejected without reason.  But there&#8217;s a big difference between joe lunchpail and someone working at the top of their field&#8230;</i></p>
<p>No.  I don&#8217;t think so.  I think those of us who try to perform assigned tasks to the best of our abilities deserve more than just vague assertions that &#8220;It&#8217;s not working out&#8221; as we&#8217;re hustled towards the door.   I frankly don&#8217;t give a rat&#8217;s ass what the tasks in question are.  We all deserve common consideration from our alleged superiors, but it&#8217;s very rare for us to actually get it.</p>
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		<title>By: anarchic_teapot</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/12/robert-crumbs-rejected-new-y.html#comment-1269145</link>
		<dc:creator>anarchic_teapot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely the point is that it shouldn&#039;t matter what&#039;s between your legs when you want to get married?

Same sex or not, nobody should care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely the point is that it shouldn&#8217;t matter what&#8217;s between your legs when you want to get married?</p>
<p>Same sex or not, nobody should care.</p>
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		<title>By: frankieboy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/12/robert-crumbs-rejected-new-y.html#comment-1269133</link>
		<dc:creator>frankieboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So how does it work, does a cartoonist just draw something on spec, and if the mag accepts the artist gets paid, and if it doesn&#039;t , they don&#039;t?
Or does the mag contact an artist, explain what they&#039;re looking for, and only pay if they use it?

Also, the New Yorker does have provocative covers frequently, the one with the Obama&#039;s fist bumping in the White House with a picture of Osama bin-fuckface on the wall, or the one with the Hasidic man kissing a black woman, at a time of hot tensions between the groups in NYC.
So they just didn&#039;t like Crumb&#039;s work, he&#039;ll live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how does it work, does a cartoonist just draw something on spec, and if the mag accepts the artist gets paid, and if it doesn&#8217;t , they don&#8217;t?<br />
Or does the mag contact an artist, explain what they&#8217;re looking for, and only pay if they use it?</p>
<p>Also, the New Yorker does have provocative covers frequently, the one with the Obama&#8217;s fist bumping in the White House with a picture of Osama bin-fuckface on the wall, or the one with the Hasidic man kissing a black woman, at a time of hot tensions between the groups in NYC.<br />
So they just didn&#8217;t like Crumb&#8217;s work, he&#8217;ll live.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark_Frauenfelder</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/12/robert-crumbs-rejected-new-y.html#comment-1269127</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark_Frauenfelder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This looks like a picture of a lesbian woman trying to marry a transvestite man.&quot;

Yes, that&#039;s what it &quot;looks like.&quot; But you aren&#039;t 100% sure and neither is the marriage license clerk. He is going to have to look at their genitals to make sure. 

&quot;Why use it to illustrate same sex marriage?&quot;

See above. That&#039;s why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This looks like a picture of a lesbian woman trying to marry a transvestite man.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, that&#8217;s what it &#8220;looks like.&#8221; But you aren&#8217;t 100% sure and neither is the marriage license clerk. He is going to have to look at their genitals to make sure. </p>
<p>&#8220;Why use it to illustrate same sex marriage?&#8221;</p>
<p>See above. That&#8217;s why.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark_Frauenfelder</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/12/robert-crumbs-rejected-new-y.html#comment-1269126</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark_Frauenfelder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Crumb&#039;s hissy fit about it only makes me think this was a long time coming-- he sounds like a real joy to work with.&quot;

If you call Crumb&#039;s comment about not wanting to work again for an editor that rejected his illustration without an explanation a &quot;hissy fit,&quot; then how would you describe your own comment, which has about 10 times as many histrionics in it as Crumb&#039;s comment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Crumb&#8217;s hissy fit about it only makes me think this was a long time coming&#8211; he sounds like a real joy to work with.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you call Crumb&#8217;s comment about not wanting to work again for an editor that rejected his illustration without an explanation a &#8220;hissy fit,&#8221; then how would you describe your own comment, which has about 10 times as many histrionics in it as Crumb&#8217;s comment?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark_Frauenfelder</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/12/robert-crumbs-rejected-new-y.html#comment-1269122</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark_Frauenfelder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is not art people, not by a long shot.&quot;
 
Thanks! But just so we can learn to be half as smart as you, give us some examples of art people, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is not art people, not by a long shot.&#8221;<br />
 <br />
Thanks! But just so we can learn to be half as smart as you, give us some examples of art people, please.</p>
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