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	<title>Comments on: Bicycle with USB ports to charge devices off a built-in&#160;dynamo</title>
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		<title>By: PrettyBoyTim</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/16/bicycle-with-usb-ports-to-char.html#comment-1272845</link>
		<dc:creator>PrettyBoyTim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking only today I need to work out how to power fairy lights from my dynohub in the runup to Christmas...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking only today I need to work out how to power fairy lights from my dynohub in the runup to Christmas&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anony Mouse</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/16/bicycle-with-usb-ports-to-char.html#comment-1272471</link>
		<dc:creator>Anony Mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old Sturmey Archer dyno-hubs are in demand for these kind of projects. Particularly the dyno-3 and dyno-4 models, which integrate the dynamo and internal gears in a single unit, as this enables the fettler to adjust the gearing for windspeed. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old Sturmey Archer dyno-hubs are in demand for these kind of projects. Particularly the dyno-3 and dyno-4 models, which integrate the dynamo and internal gears in a single unit, as this enables the fettler to adjust the gearing for windspeed. </p>
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		<title>By: Anony Mouse</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/16/bicycle-with-usb-ports-to-char.html#comment-1272470</link>
		<dc:creator>Anony Mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty sure that this is how a hub dynamo operates. Drag from a good one is very low - the equivalent of a 3 foot incline over a mile or so.

This idea is not a new one - there are plenty of retrofit chargers for dynamo systems. It&#039;s nice to see it well-integrated in the build - not wires dangling everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty sure that this is how a hub dynamo operates. Drag from a good one is very low &#8211; the equivalent of a 3 foot incline over a mile or so.</p>
<p>This idea is not a new one &#8211; there are plenty of retrofit chargers for dynamo systems. It&#8217;s nice to see it well-integrated in the build &#8211; not wires dangling everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: shannigans</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/16/bicycle-with-usb-ports-to-char.html#comment-1272040</link>
		<dc:creator>shannigans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally depends!  The two hub generators I have I barely notice at all and just leave them on all the time.  I have a newer bottle generator that is noticeable but not unbearable and an older bottle generator from the 70&#039;s that sure helps to provide a good workout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally depends!  The two hub generators I have I barely notice at all and just leave them on all the time.  I have a newer bottle generator that is noticeable but not unbearable and an older bottle generator from the 70&#8242;s that sure helps to provide a good workout.</p>
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		<title>By: You_Sir_Cannot</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/16/bicycle-with-usb-ports-to-char.html#comment-1271994</link>
		<dc:creator>You_Sir_Cannot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today I also learned that there are other types of dynamos apart from the &quot;bottle&quot; dynamo. Thanks BoingBoing.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/Bicycle_dynamo.jpg/180px-Bicycle_dynamo.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today I also learned that there are other types of dynamos apart from the &#8220;bottle&#8221; dynamo. Thanks BoingBoing.</p>
<p><a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/Bicycle_dynamo.jpg/180px-Bicycle_dynamo.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/Bicycle_dynamo.jpg/180px-Bicycle_dynamo.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: JMB98115</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/16/bicycle-with-usb-ports-to-char.html#comment-1271888</link>
		<dc:creator>JMB98115</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 21:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rather have a dragless¹ magnetic induction generator.

¹ drag from magnetic fields negligible in this application.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather have a dragless¹ magnetic induction generator.</p>
<p>¹ drag from magnetic fields negligible in this application.</p>
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		<title>By: dr.hypercube</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/16/bicycle-with-usb-ports-to-char.html#comment-1271828</link>
		<dc:creator>dr.hypercube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bionx.ca/en/products/product-range/northamerica/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tah-dah&lt;/a&gt;! Needs hacking - or so I read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.bionx.ca/en/products/product-range/northamerica/" rel="nofollow">Tah-dah</a>! Needs hacking &#8211; or so I read.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Petty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Petty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The power collected could be used to run a motor that helps on the hills!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The power collected could be used to run a motor that helps on the hills!</p>
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		<title>By: Faith Landsman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faith Landsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay!

and

Duh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay!</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>Duh!</p>
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		<title>By: hymenopterid</title>
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		<dc:creator>hymenopterid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got a great idea for a cheap wind generator...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got a great idea for a cheap wind generator&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Hardy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/16/bicycle-with-usb-ports-to-char.html#comment-1271744</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very practical answer to the resistance issue is to disengage the dynamo when pedaling uphill and engage when coasting downhill.  This principle is used in hybrid autos when braking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very practical answer to the resistance issue is to disengage the dynamo when pedaling uphill and engage when coasting downhill.  This principle is used in hybrid autos when braking.</p>
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		<title>By: dr.hypercube</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/16/bicycle-with-usb-ports-to-char.html#comment-1271741</link>
		<dc:creator>dr.hypercube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some graphs &lt;a href=&quot;http://nabendynamo.de/produkte/SONdelux.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; (via Jan Heine and the &lt;em&gt;excellent&lt;/em&gt; Bicycle Quarterly). I don&#039;t notice much additional resistance w/ no load on the Shimano DH-3N80 I have, but it ain&#039;t no race bike. Unsurprisingly, I&#039;m no Eddy M. either - I don&#039;t mind chugging up a hill like the robust, as opposed to gracile, older guy that I am ;-). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some graphs <a href="http://nabendynamo.de/produkte/SONdelux.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> (via Jan Heine and the <em>excellent</em> Bicycle Quarterly). I don&#8217;t notice much additional resistance w/ no load on the Shimano DH-3N80 I have, but it ain&#8217;t no race bike. Unsurprisingly, I&#8217;m no Eddy M. either &#8211; I don&#8217;t mind chugging up a hill like the robust, as opposed to gracile, older guy that I am ;-). </p>
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		<title>By: puufuu</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/16/bicycle-with-usb-ports-to-char.html#comment-1271735</link>
		<dc:creator>puufuu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most hub dynamos are designed for 3W/6V (many are limited to this) or 6W/12V (not quite as common) output. A good(!) dynamo is about 60% efficient at normal cycling speeds, which means roughly 5-10W power consumption. Depends on the device you attach to it though; a hub dynamo will only produce as much power as your device draws.

A typical rider will  produce upwards of 150W of power; pretty much insignificant in other words ;-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most hub dynamos are designed for 3W/6V (many are limited to this) or 6W/12V (not quite as common) output. A good(!) dynamo is about 60% efficient at normal cycling speeds, which means roughly 5-10W power consumption. Depends on the device you attach to it though; a hub dynamo will only produce as much power as your device draws.</p>
<p>A typical rider will  produce upwards of 150W of power; pretty much insignificant in other words ;-).</p>
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		<title>By: Noir Bicycles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noir Bicycles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great product, i could actually use something like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great product, i could actually use something like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Bottle Imp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bottle Imp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much added resistance are we talking about here? I&#039;m already enough of a candy-ass on hills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much added resistance are we talking about here? I&#8217;m already enough of a candy-ass on hills.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Perriman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Perriman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s such a good idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s such a good idea!</p>
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		<title>By: jaypee</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaypee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More specifically, it uses products from Supernova.  They&#039;re made in Germany and super bomber.

Waterproof and super well engineered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More specifically, it uses products from Supernova.  They&#8217;re made in Germany and super bomber.</p>
<p>Waterproof and super well engineered.</p>
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		<title>By: dr.hypercube</title>
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		<dc:creator>dr.hypercube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Peter White Cycles&lt;/a&gt; is an excellent resource/supplier for anyone interested in bike dynamo lighting or power. Full disclosure - he built a wheelset this summer for my night and snow bike that I am completely satisfied with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/" rel="nofollow">Peter White Cycles</a> is an excellent resource/supplier for anyone interested in bike dynamo lighting or power. Full disclosure &#8211; he built a wheelset this summer for my night and snow bike that I am completely satisfied with.</p>
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		<title>By: puufuu</title>
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		<dc:creator>puufuu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been doing that for years. Hub dynamos are pretty common in (some parts of) Europe and have been for quite a while. I built my own circuitry and wired the plugs on my own though; fried quite a few batteries in the process ;-).

Nowadays there are a number of (battery-buffered) commercial products that you just plug into your hub dynamo. Much easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been doing that for years. Hub dynamos are pretty common in (some parts of) Europe and have been for quite a while. I built my own circuitry and wired the plugs on my own though; fried quite a few batteries in the process ;-).</p>
<p>Nowadays there are a number of (battery-buffered) commercial products that you just plug into your hub dynamo. Much easier.</p>
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		<title>By: Chauncey Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chauncey Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty cool. Hope it&#039;s waterproof in some capacity. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty cool. Hope it&#8217;s waterproof in some capacity. </p>
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