Comments on: SOPA: the whole world's Internet under US jurisdiction

By: Dennis Smith

Dennis Smith — Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:07:00 +0000

Well they do, but I was to understand it that if you had the money, you too could decide what laws america lives by, usually by lobbying and paying off people who vote for certain laws.

By: digi_owl

digi_owl — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:36:00 +0000

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002

By: digi_owl

digi_owl — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:34:00 +0000

I keep reading that middle one as SCROTUS. Wonder why…

By: digi_owl

digi_owl — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:31:00 +0000

Enough mines should do the trick. I pitty the canadians and mexicans that have to live next door to them tho…

By: digi_owl

digi_owl — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:30:00 +0000

Not news. US legislators have long considered any non-national LTD US territory and subject to US law…

By: Antinous / Moderator

Antinous / Moderator — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:24:00 +0000

How is this not illegal?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itmNiTwHOsM#t=0m18s

By: marilove

marilove — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:42:00 +0000

Yes, it is that bad. And obnoxious. And pointless. And ridiculous. And you know exactly what kind of beers they are referring to, yet you still insist on being that guy. Every time you try to argue that with a server or manager, when you leave, they talk amongst themselves about how utterly obnoxious you were being. Every time. Guaranteed.

By: Andy Coder

Andy Coder — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:33:00 +0000

Is that so bad? It’s not as if I’m saying it’s unfair to charge more for craft beers, just that a craft beer made in the US is a domestic beer (in the US). I think it’s reasonable to think that if a special only applies to Bud Light, and not to any other domestic beer on tap, then maybe it should say “$2 Bud Light drafts” instead of “$2 domestic drafts”.

More on topic, the point of my original post was simply to point out that the meaning of the word domestic in these contexts is generally that something domestic in a given country originated in said country, and is translated to domain names and IP addresses in what I think may be a reasonable manner. This is in contrast with common usage at small time bars and restaurants with regard to beer, where it can refer to some particular subset of cheap beer (occasionally not even one that’s produced domestically).

By: ScytheNoire

ScytheNoire — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:11:00 +0000

USA invading other countries internet. This is an act of WAR.

By: marilove

marilove — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:06:00 +0000

I think that means that the “$2 domestic drafts” claim is misleading, but no one who could change my tab seemed to agree, so perhaps I’m mistaken.

Wow. You actually argued about this with staff, trying to get them to give you craft beer for the domestic price? Really? You’re one of those people? Yikes.

By: Nikolai Tzolev

Nikolai Tzolev — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:32:00 +0000

Dear China,

Take notes. That’s how censorship is done.

By: jere7my

jere7my — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:00:00 +0000

That’s the whole point – to make a point.

If you have an older computer, then the point turns out to be “What the hell is this non-removable gray box with a video of a monkey flickering in and out from behind it?” Clicking the close box did nothing — was that part of the point too?

I don’t like SOPA, but presenting me with a stunt advertisement that gives me technical issues to wrestle with first thing in the morning is not going to deepen my sympathy.

By: Sapa

Sapa — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:51:00 +0000

Unfortunately we are treated more and more as if we were being farmed. Maybe Charles Fort was right and we are owned.
The “leaders” (who are called “ministers” and civil “servants” in UK because their role is supposed to be to administer on our behalf) actually want Total control over everything us masses do and think.
They had it for a long time with religion, they had it also with newspapers and television and they want the Internet also. They also see it as a last bastion of freedom so it’s only logical they will try to control it. This is in my opinion a direct result of the WWW becoming commercial.

By: Sapa

Sapa — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:40:00 +0000

This is ridiculous. The Internet is called the World Wide Web because it is a community of the planet.

By: Guest

Guest — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:40:00 +0000

This will give me an excuse to buy postage stamps again.

By: Guest

Guest — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:36:00 +0000

ICANN is more of a problem than a cure, as it is now. They can not seem to exercise their power effectively.

By: bruckelsprout

bruckelsprout — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:27:00 +0000

Would you mind waiting while I get my things and come over before you erect that wall?

By: Macgruder

Macgruder — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:24:00 +0000

“that giant, obnoxious JS popup that renders BB nigh unnavigable”That’s the whole point – to make a point.

By: Jim Grogan

Jim Grogan — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:12:00 +0000

Attention rest of world: When you have 11 aircraft carriers you can be the boss! Also I agree with you all, this needs to be killed.

By: Tristiana Johnson

Tristiana Johnson — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:49:00 +0000

This won’t pass!! They may think it’s a good idea but I know some people in the senate have some common sense!! They will realize the ramifications of this bill. Because we will not be the only ones who will protest, the WHOLE world will. The American government needs to get it’s head out of it’s ass and realize they can’t control everything. The internet is probably the only thing we have left that was created for the people by the people. They can’t take it away. They can’t control it.WE WON”T LET THEM!!!!!

By: Chris Irwin Davis

Chris Irwin Davis — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:40:00 +0000

Our government (Congress + SCOTUS + POTUS) decides for us what is legal. If they all agree that it’s legal, then it is. Scary?

By: puufuu

puufuu — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:33:00 +0000

Dear BB,

Just a humble suggestion: could you consider replacing that giant, obnoxious JS popup that renders BB nigh unnavigable with something else, like a giant banner at the top of each page?

Thank you.

(Also, I guess BB _does_ have an editorial stance and is not just a collection of authors with their own views.)

By: Andy Coder

Andy Coder — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:28:00 +0000

Now, IANAL and SOPA is not a law that I would like to find myself defending (and I don’t feel that what I’m about to say somehow validates it), but it seems to me that there’s some reasonable thinking behind the definition of “domestic domain names” and “domestic Internet protocol address”.

That is, the names and addresses themselves are domestic in the US, since their point of origin (registration or allocation, in this case) is within US jurisdiction.

Of course, I thought that was how it worked with beer until I was informed by a waitress during happy hour that “craft” brews are a different category than domestic, no matter where they are made. I think that means that the “$2 domestic drafts” claim is misleading, but no one who could change my tab seemed to agree, so perhaps I’m mistaken.

By: lauriok

lauriok — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:19:00 +0000

Dear Americans, please stop this nonsense before your leaders impose yet another paranoid madness on the rest of the world. Thank you.

By: Andrew Molloy

Andrew Molloy — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:59:00 +0000

ICANN is a pretty damn significant part.

By: Andrew Molloy

Andrew Molloy — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:58:00 +0000

This is what really scares me, if this passes this will affect me directly and almost everyone else. And yet I have absolutely no say in it just because I’m not a US citizen nor a resident.

By: Aa

Aa — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:42:00 +0000

How is this not illegal?

By: LX

LX — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:41:00 +0000

The USA can only control the part of the Internet that is within its borders, both technically and legally.

By: Mark Gervais

Mark Gervais — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:34:00 +0000

I like to cover my bases and i’ve been meaning to do this for a while. Assuming this pile of crap passes, where should i start registing my domains out of? Liechtenstein?

By: awjt

awjt — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:30:00 +0000

SOPA: Yet Another EBI*

(*Extremely Bad Idea)