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	<title>Comments on: The Freedom Maze: a different sort of slavery-time alternate&#160;history</title>
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		<title>By: Spocko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spocko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I REALLY like your comment.  Just wanted you to know it. I too had a capital &quot;A&quot; Adventure and I realized that I watching or reading other&#039;s adventures helps on one hand, but what I really wanted to talk to people who had lived actual adventures. 
Written adventures have a thru line and a writer chooses what happens next. In real life you can only choose how to respond to what happens next. 

I remember one thing I loved about Pulp Fiction was how random things happen that aren&#039;t planned. Like you are in the bathroom when the guy comes back to the apt. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I REALLY like your comment.  Just wanted you to know it. I too had a capital &#8220;A&#8221; Adventure and I realized that I watching or reading other&#8217;s adventures helps on one hand, but what I really wanted to talk to people who had lived actual adventures.<br />
Written adventures have a thru line and a writer chooses what happens next. In real life you can only choose how to respond to what happens next. </p>
<p>I remember one thing I loved about Pulp Fiction was how random things happen that aren&#8217;t planned. Like you are in the bathroom when the guy comes back to the apt. </p>
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		<title>By: Dree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This story isn&#039;t like other, similar stories...&quot;

You&#039;re making my inner pedant have seizures, Cory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This story isn&#8217;t like other, similar stories&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re making my inner pedant have seizures, Cory.</p>
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		<title>By: Nadreck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nadreck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference between narrative (especially Western narrative) and reality is always interesting.  Most people wouldn&#039;t read stories where just normal life happens since you&#039;ve already got a life: people want the extraordinary,  and a story arc that makes sense and ties off loose ends.  In Iain Banks&#039; collection &quot;State of the Art&quot; there&#039;s a great story about an alien, who hasn&#039;t any experience with fiction, coming to Earth and discovering that his internal model of reality is starting to follow the pattern of a narrative whereas it didn&#039;t before.  The Dr. Who canon&#039;s &quot;Land of Fiction&quot; idea (episode &quot;The Mind Robber&quot; and the brilliant novel &quot;Conundrum&quot;) takes the idea even further: in this dimension if you start becoming a fictional version of yourself if you get mentally lazy and keep following a plotline.  You then become a puppet of The Author and, through his market surveys, The Audience - Those Who Must Be Amused.

SPOILER ALERT!
The thing with Time Travel or other travelogue stories is that, in reality it would be mostly washing dishes or being a slave as most people&#039;s lives anywhere are going to be humdrum or awful.  That&#039;s why they&#039;re probably ready stories about *your* reality and the amazing adventures to be had therein.  This is why everyone decides, despite the odds against it, they&#039;re the re-incarnation of Napoleon and not foot soldier #15832 in one of his armies or, even more likely, a starving French Peasant.  Again from Dr. Who, in the novel &quot;Set Piece&quot; Ace gets stuck in Ancient Egypt for years.  Nothing extraordinary is going on; she&#039;s just an oddly-combat-capable woman with no other particular applicable life skills living in the suburbs of Memphis.  What&#039;s she going to retire on?  She gets a place in someone&#039;s retinue as a novelty guard but there&#039;s nothing to guard against so she ends up doing judo flips as party tricks.  Being the sort of Adventure Junkie that you pretty well have to be to be a Companion, she starts to go mad in this environment.

In Jack Vance&#039;s Anome series can be viewed as one long commentary on the whole, actually prosaic nature of  life.  The protagonist infiltrates an alien slave camp and just ends up being a slave.  He highjacks a starship and just ends up stuck in orbit for months due to the impossibility of working alien controls.  History is happening all around him but he doesn&#039;t influence it. Even if you&#039;re living through extra-ordinary times you probably just end up with a bit-part like Rosencrantz and Guildenstern.

Twice in my life I&#039;ve fallen into capital &quot;A&quot; Adventures and one of them could even have been called a bit of genre fiction.  I found that fiction gave me an overall framework to work within that the other, non-Fan, people around me were sorely lacking.  They were paralysed by the lack of analogy with anything in their lives.  On the other hand, I had to be very careful about the differences between Narrative and Reality:  there are more loose ends than connecting threads; happy endings are unlikely as Endings are in general; people exposed to constant danger always get combat fatigue and just stop moving; the gun above the mantel in Act I isn&#039;t there because it&#039;s going to be used in Act II, it&#039;s just there at random; and Lawyers.  The last is most important as the Evil Mastermind isn&#039;t going to send assassins after you or try and shoot it out with you if you obtain an important piece of evidence against him.  He&#039;ll just dump lawyers on you.  Scientology, for one, understands this very well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference between narrative (especially Western narrative) and reality is always interesting.  Most people wouldn&#8217;t read stories where just normal life happens since you&#8217;ve already got a life: people want the extraordinary,  and a story arc that makes sense and ties off loose ends.  In Iain Banks&#8217; collection &#8220;State of the Art&#8221; there&#8217;s a great story about an alien, who hasn&#8217;t any experience with fiction, coming to Earth and discovering that his internal model of reality is starting to follow the pattern of a narrative whereas it didn&#8217;t before.  The Dr. Who canon&#8217;s &#8220;Land of Fiction&#8221; idea (episode &#8220;The Mind Robber&#8221; and the brilliant novel &#8220;Conundrum&#8221;) takes the idea even further: in this dimension if you start becoming a fictional version of yourself if you get mentally lazy and keep following a plotline.  You then become a puppet of The Author and, through his market surveys, The Audience &#8211; Those Who Must Be Amused.</p>
<p>SPOILER ALERT!<br />
The thing with Time Travel or other travelogue stories is that, in reality it would be mostly washing dishes or being a slave as most people&#8217;s lives anywhere are going to be humdrum or awful.  That&#8217;s why they&#8217;re probably ready stories about *your* reality and the amazing adventures to be had therein.  This is why everyone decides, despite the odds against it, they&#8217;re the re-incarnation of Napoleon and not foot soldier #15832 in one of his armies or, even more likely, a starving French Peasant.  Again from Dr. Who, in the novel &#8220;Set Piece&#8221; Ace gets stuck in Ancient Egypt for years.  Nothing extraordinary is going on; she&#8217;s just an oddly-combat-capable woman with no other particular applicable life skills living in the suburbs of Memphis.  What&#8217;s she going to retire on?  She gets a place in someone&#8217;s retinue as a novelty guard but there&#8217;s nothing to guard against so she ends up doing judo flips as party tricks.  Being the sort of Adventure Junkie that you pretty well have to be to be a Companion, she starts to go mad in this environment.</p>
<p>In Jack Vance&#8217;s Anome series can be viewed as one long commentary on the whole, actually prosaic nature of  life.  The protagonist infiltrates an alien slave camp and just ends up being a slave.  He highjacks a starship and just ends up stuck in orbit for months due to the impossibility of working alien controls.  History is happening all around him but he doesn&#8217;t influence it. Even if you&#8217;re living through extra-ordinary times you probably just end up with a bit-part like Rosencrantz and Guildenstern.</p>
<p>Twice in my life I&#8217;ve fallen into capital &#8220;A&#8221; Adventures and one of them could even have been called a bit of genre fiction.  I found that fiction gave me an overall framework to work within that the other, non-Fan, people around me were sorely lacking.  They were paralysed by the lack of analogy with anything in their lives.  On the other hand, I had to be very careful about the differences between Narrative and Reality:  there are more loose ends than connecting threads; happy endings are unlikely as Endings are in general; people exposed to constant danger always get combat fatigue and just stop moving; the gun above the mantel in Act I isn&#8217;t there because it&#8217;s going to be used in Act II, it&#8217;s just there at random; and Lawyers.  The last is most important as the Evil Mastermind isn&#8217;t going to send assassins after you or try and shoot it out with you if you obtain an important piece of evidence against him.  He&#8217;ll just dump lawyers on you.  Scientology, for one, understands this very well.</p>
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		<title>By: Geir Gaseidnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geir Gaseidnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Delia Sherman and Ellen Kushner, who often write together, are both splendid writers (The Swordspoint books are one of my favorite fantasy series - low magic, high intrigue stuff).  I&#039;m looking forward to reading this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delia Sherman and Ellen Kushner, who often write together, are both splendid writers (The Swordspoint books are one of my favorite fantasy series &#8211; low magic, high intrigue stuff).  I&#8217;m looking forward to reading this!</p>
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