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	<title>Comments on: TOM THE DANCING BUG:  Billy Dare Into the Uncanny&#160;Valley</title>
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		<title>By: J.J. Hunsecker</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/16/tom-the-dancing-bug-billy-da.html#comment-1275279</link>
		<dc:creator>J.J. Hunsecker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 23:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Heavy-handed political allegory&quot;? How is ridiculing creepy Motion Capture CGI puppetry in any way political? The comic is satirizing a special effect technique, not a political movement, party or politician. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Heavy-handed political allegory&#8221;? How is ridiculing creepy Motion Capture CGI puppetry in any way political? The comic is satirizing a special effect technique, not a political movement, party or politician. </p>
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		<title>By: gpeare</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/16/tom-the-dancing-bug-billy-da.html#comment-1272931</link>
		<dc:creator>gpeare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They came back as Mimi and Eunice? http://mimiandeunice.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They came back as Mimi and Eunice? <a href="http://mimiandeunice.com/" rel="nofollow">http://mimiandeunice.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: pluggy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/16/tom-the-dancing-bug-billy-da.html#comment-1272620</link>
		<dc:creator>pluggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I could see what Quentin looked like in the valley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could see what Quentin looked like in the valley</p>
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		<title>By: LuisDanielCarbia</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/16/tom-the-dancing-bug-billy-da.html#comment-1272543</link>
		<dc:creator>LuisDanielCarbia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That box man is the vengeful ghost of Georges Remi, isn&#039;t he?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That box man is the vengeful ghost of Georges Remi, isn&#8217;t he?</p>
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		<title>By: cooperman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/16/tom-the-dancing-bug-billy-da.html#comment-1272446</link>
		<dc:creator>cooperman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the blinking! The lack of blinking! One of the cheapest 2D animation tricks to keep a character alive is to keep them blinking. 6 eye drawings on cycle and you&#039;re done. Think old hanna Barbera etc. 
Also, it&#039;s important during head turns and anticipations, even to speech...It&#039;s an exaggeration of real life. But it works. Mo-Cap don&#039;t usually catch the eyelids. As a result, it&#039;s one big staring contest. Realistic but lifeless. Blink!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the blinking! The lack of blinking! One of the cheapest 2D animation tricks to keep a character alive is to keep them blinking. 6 eye drawings on cycle and you&#8217;re done. Think old hanna Barbera etc. <br />
Also, it&#8217;s important during head turns and anticipations, even to speech&#8230;It&#8217;s an exaggeration of real life. But it works. Mo-Cap don&#8217;t usually catch the eyelids. As a result, it&#8217;s one big staring contest. Realistic but lifeless. Blink!</p>
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		<title>By: benher</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/16/tom-the-dancing-bug-billy-da.html#comment-1272245</link>
		<dc:creator>benher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 03:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s why I didn&#039;t like FF 13. That and linear dungeons.

Also, CGI teeth are what always does it for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s why I didn&#8217;t like FF 13. That and linear dungeons.</p>
<p>Also, CGI teeth are what always does it for me.</p>
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		<title>By: bartese</title>
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		<dc:creator>bartese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another bit of joy from my favorite comic stripper.  I wonder...  Is it possible those images are creepy because they seem like photos, but we know simultaneously (due to the slight distortions) that these can&#039;t be real people captured by photos?  It might be about expectations of the perceived medium, and not some &quot;dead zone&quot; on a realism continuum.  We know, for instance, that even a charcoal drawing can achieve the same level of mimetic representation as a photo (although the charcoal medium will always assure us it&#039;s not a photo).  But there isn&#039;t some dead zone on the charcoal continuum that would make us think the image is uncanny, right...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another bit of joy from my favorite comic stripper.  I wonder&#8230;  Is it possible those images are creepy because they seem like photos, but we know simultaneously (due to the slight distortions) that these can&#8217;t be real people captured by photos?  It might be about expectations of the perceived medium, and not some &#8220;dead zone&#8221; on a realism continuum.  We know, for instance, that even a charcoal drawing can achieve the same level of mimetic representation as a photo (although the charcoal medium will always assure us it&#8217;s not a photo).  But there isn&#8217;t some dead zone on the charcoal continuum that would make us think the image is uncanny, right&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Dree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What?  Do corpses have a wax-like texture and shiny skin?  I&#039;ve only seen a handful of corpses, but they did not fit that description.  Waxy, shiny skin *is* creepy, but I don&#039;t think that&#039;s why.  It probably sounds like I&#039;m quibbling, but I think that disgust due to waxy, shiny skin is a very worthy topic for scrutiny.  My undergrad prof might say that it reminds us of plastic, and of being replaced by animated inanimate objects as our animal nature comes back to grapple with survival in modernity (AKA getting right back into the uncanny zip code).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What?  Do corpses have a wax-like texture and shiny skin?  I&#8217;ve only seen a handful of corpses, but they did not fit that description.  Waxy, shiny skin *is* creepy, but I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s why.  It probably sounds like I&#8217;m quibbling, but I think that disgust due to waxy, shiny skin is a very worthy topic for scrutiny.  My undergrad prof might say that it reminds us of plastic, and of being replaced by animated inanimate objects as our animal nature comes back to grapple with survival in modernity (AKA getting right back into the uncanny zip code).</p>
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		<title>By: GawainLavers</title>
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		<dc:creator>GawainLavers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Augh!  (&quot;Waaugh!&quot;?) Not out here yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Augh!  (&#8220;Waaugh!&#8221;?) Not out here yet.</p>
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		<title>By: miguel martins</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/16/tom-the-dancing-bug-billy-da.html#comment-1271954</link>
		<dc:creator>miguel martins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet Tintin managed to escape the uncanny valley by having extremely cartoony faces. ( tintin was the worse case of the whole thing, Haddock was perfect) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet Tintin managed to escape the uncanny valley by having extremely cartoony faces. ( tintin was the worse case of the whole thing, Haddock was perfect) </p>
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		<title>By: Amy L Sacks</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/16/tom-the-dancing-bug-billy-da.html#comment-1271851</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy L Sacks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 21:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beats the hell out of TV Tropes, if you ask me. :D </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beats the hell out of TV Tropes, if you ask me. :D </p>
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		<title>By: Neil Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You spelled Nick&#039;s name wrong.</description>
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		<title>By: joeposts</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/16/tom-the-dancing-bug-billy-da.html#comment-1271759</link>
		<dc:creator>joeposts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess that&#039;s why CGI porn only has a niche audience. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that&#8217;s why CGI porn only has a niche audience. </p>
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		<title>By: Rob Beschizza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Beschizza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The deal is that it&#039;s a sort of casual blanket-term that was originally about robotics, but now covers anything that might be icky about realistic representations of people. It&#039;s not that it doesn&#039;t exist, just that it&#039;s an elegant but imprecise hypothesis that takes the place of less interesting but more specific ones.

For example, you don&#039;t need the uncanny valley to explain why waxy, shiny skin is creepy. It&#039;s because it looks like a corpse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The deal is that it&#8217;s a sort of casual blanket-term that was originally about robotics, but now covers anything that might be icky about realistic representations of people. It&#8217;s not that it doesn&#8217;t exist, just that it&#8217;s an elegant but imprecise hypothesis that takes the place of less interesting but more specific ones.</p>
<p>For example, you don&#8217;t need the uncanny valley to explain why waxy, shiny skin is creepy. It&#8217;s because it looks like a corpse.</p>
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		<title>By: dagfooyo</title>
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		<dc:creator>dagfooyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG there&#039;s a SUPER FUN PAK COMIC EVERY SINGLE DAY :-D  There goes my productivity for the rest of the week as I read through the archives...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG there&#8217;s a SUPER FUN PAK COMIC EVERY SINGLE DAY :-D  There goes my productivity for the rest of the week as I read through the archives&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jorpho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorpho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad the Uncanny Valley doesn&#039;t quite hold up to scientific scrutiny.  (At least, that&#039;s the case da wiki suggests.  I haven&#039;t done the research myself, though I&#039;d kind of like to.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad the Uncanny Valley doesn&#8217;t quite hold up to scientific scrutiny.  (At least, that&#8217;s the case da wiki suggests.  I haven&#8217;t done the research myself, though I&#8217;d kind of like to.)</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Goetz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Goetz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i call for more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i call for more!</p>
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		<title>By: Jellodyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jellodyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enough with the heavy-handed political allegory, already! </description>
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		<title>By: bjacques</title>
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		<dc:creator>bjacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanna see an Uncanny Valley Girl! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanna see an Uncanny Valley Girl! </p>
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