Comments on: Interview with creator of Occupy Wall Street "bat-signal" projections during Brooklyn Bridge #N17 march http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 23 May 2013 02:34:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: dianeb181 http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1278305 dianeb181 Wed, 23 Nov 2011 05:19:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1278305   What is interesting is that the POLICE crowd estimate was 32,000;  the organizers we passed told us there were 45,000 "between the Bklyn bridge and Foley Square".   The next morning CBS News reported at 5 A.M. that there were 5,000 in the crowd.  At SIX A.M. they gave the crowd size as ONE THOUSAND.  To anyone who was actually there that is completely laughable. Some of us were joking around the night before that Bloomberg would probably say there was only a few hundred people present...(on an endlessly revolving tape loop??!)  I know it's commonplace for the lamestream media to under-estimate crowd size, but that is ABSURD!!!   What is interesting is that the POLICE crowd estimate was 32,000;  the organizers we passed told us there were 45,000 “between the Bklyn bridge and Foley Square”.   The next morning CBS News reported at 5 A.M. that there were 5,000 in the crowd.  At SIX A.M. they gave the crowd size as ONE THOUSAND.  To anyone who was actually there that is completely laughable.

Some of us were joking around the night before that Bloomberg would probably say there was only a few hundred people present…(on an endlessly revolving tape loop??!) 

I know it’s commonplace for the lamestream media to under-estimate crowd size, but that is ABSURD!!!

]]> By: dianeb181 http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1278298 dianeb181 Wed, 23 Nov 2011 05:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1278298 I was so inspired by the events of last Thursday - joining with  that massive crowd in Foley Square and then marching across the bridge with everyone with their tea lights and glow sticks and signs and all of their songs and chants and energy, and  to be among so many cool people and then - halfway across - to turn around and see that wonderful illuminated projection on the side of the Verizon building (of all places!)     I participated in the Verizon ("Verigreedy") protest a few weeks ago and then later that same night got to march and sing and  "Occupy Columbus Circle" with Pete Seeger, Arlo Guthrie, David Amram, and Tom Chapin and others and that was also a very magical evening!After last Thursday's events I was so inspired that I couldn't fall asleep  so I composed a song that I have already publicly performed 3 times (at "Occupy Newark" and "Occupy Trenton", and also yesterday on a chartered bus going from Maplewood, NJ to a very lively anti-fracking rally in Trenton!)I was particularly inspired by that one chant:  "We Are Unstoppable,  A Better World Is Possible" I was so inspired by the events of last Thursday – joining with  that massive crowd in Foley Square and then marching across the bridge with everyone with their tea lights and glow sticks and signs and all of their songs and chants and energy, and  to be among so many cool people and then – halfway across – to turn around and see that wonderful illuminated projection on the side of the Verizon building (of all places!)   
 I participated in the Verizon (“Verigreedy”) protest a few weeks ago and then later that same night got to march and sing and  ”Occupy Columbus Circle” with Pete Seeger, Arlo Guthrie, David Amram, and Tom Chapin and others and that was also a very magical evening!After last Thursday’s events I was so inspired that I couldn’t fall asleep  so I composed a song that I have already publicly performed 3 times (at “Occupy Newark” and “Occupy Trenton”, and also yesterday on a chartered bus going from Maplewood, NJ to a very lively anti-fracking rally in Trenton!)I was particularly inspired by that one chant:  ”We Are Unstoppable,  A Better World Is Possible”

]]> By: Cowicide http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1278259 Cowicide Wed, 23 Nov 2011 04:19:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1278259 (animated) http://i.imgur.com/f2Vcs.gif (animated)

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]]> By: coki maminos http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1278212 coki maminos Wed, 23 Nov 2011 03:05:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1278212 "This is for the People"  Peace Nobel Prize Obama must hear Denise Vega, a brave woman who supported OccMov with no fear.  “This is for the People”  Peace Nobel Prize Obama must hear Denise Vega, a brave woman who supported OccMov with no fear. 

]]> By: arachne http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1277431 arachne Tue, 22 Nov 2011 06:41:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1277431 Mic Check.  Love this moment and everything it means for all of us.  Mic Check.  Love this moment and everything it means for all of us. 

]]> By: Tea-bag nihilist http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1276170 Tea-bag nihilist Mon, 21 Nov 2011 05:03:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1276170 We occupy because we have to, simple as that.  NOT standing up in protest at this juncture would have meant acceptance; we as a nation will NOT accept wage-serfdom! We occupy because we have to, simple as that.  NOT standing up in protest at this juncture would have meant acceptance; we as a nation will NOT accept wage-serfdom!

]]> By: costumejim http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1275931 costumejim Sun, 20 Nov 2011 22:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1275931 Powerful... Makes us all proud.  May the bat signal shine brightly and multiply.  2012 is upon us. Powerful… Makes us all proud.  May the bat signal shine brightly and multiply.  2012 is upon us.

]]> By: sharonlgrace http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1275712 sharonlgrace Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1275712 Amazing, powerful, transformative. I am changed by this, and by the Dorli Rainey video, and other stories about the 99%. I am part of the 99. I have hope. I will step outside my comfort zone for this cause. I will stand for peace in San Francisco every Saturday morning, 9:00 am, across from City Hall on Polk Street, and I will remember these stories, and I will believe that a peaceful world is possible. This is the beginning of the beginning. Thank you for such powerful inspiration! Amazing, powerful, transformative. I am changed by this, and by the Dorli Rainey video, and other stories about the 99%. I am part of the 99. I have hope. I will step outside my comfort zone for this cause. I will stand for peace in San Francisco every Saturday morning, 9:00 am, across from City Hall on Polk Street, and I will remember these stories, and I will believe that a peaceful world is possible. This is the beginning of the beginning.

Thank you for such powerful inspiration!

]]> By: Paul Gutches http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1275558 Paul Gutches Sun, 20 Nov 2011 08:49:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1275558 In addition, this idea can be taken to a higher creative level as well.   Buildings can have informative statistics / charts projected onto them.   A Giant dollar bill image can be projected onto legislative buildings, for those police precincts that fail to serve and protect, the scarlet word "Shame" could be projected onto their precinct buildings.    Word and image, together.  Lots of possibilities here. In addition, this idea can be taken to a higher creative level as well.   Buildings can have informative statistics / charts projected onto them.   A Giant dollar bill image can be projected onto legislative buildings, for those police precincts that fail to serve and protect, the scarlet word “Shame” could be projected onto their precinct buildings.    Word and image, together.  Lots of possibilities here.

]]> By: Mark Craig http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1275472 Mark Craig Sun, 20 Nov 2011 06:14:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1275472 Seeing this sent chills up my spine and as much as I wanted to be there, I was stuck at work outside the City, keeping Ustream up on one monitor just so I could be there in spirit. It was a night of questions, tension, of wondering what the future holds for OWS and all of us. But this was a beacon of hope and a boost for everyone on the street those of us watching at a distance. Shared it with one of my students and the image went viral, and I end up hearing back from students I haven't seen in years.   Action is essential; but an image can speak volumes. Thank you!  Seeing this sent chills up my spine and as much as I wanted to be there, I was stuck at work outside the City, keeping Ustream up on one monitor just so I could be there in spirit. It was a night of questions, tension, of wondering what the future holds for OWS and all of us. But this was a beacon of hope and a boost for everyone on the street those of us watching at a distance. Shared it with one of my students and the image went viral, and I end up hearing back from students I haven’t seen in years.  

Action is essential; but an image can speak volumes. Thank you! 

]]> By: eileen preiss http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1275270 eileen preiss Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1275270 I am truly in awe of how remarkable your movement is.  What can I do.  I so much want to be a part of OWS..  I'm 80 years old,  slightly handicapped and willing to go to jail for non violent protest.  How can I participate.  Eileen I am truly in awe of how remarkable your movement is.  What can I do.  I so much want to be a part of OWS..  I’m 80 years old,  slightly handicapped and willing to go to jail for non violent protest.  How can I participate.  Eileen

]]> By: debread http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1275242 debread Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:38:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1275242 That's also how I felt this morning watching the blog video from Seattle, in amazement of what my brother Mark orchestrated!  I am so, so, so , so proud of you Mark!  This work will surely be your legacy and live on in protest legend! With such a positive and optimistic message I expect that you brought people into the fold who were formerly on the sidelines.  I was imagining this "batman projection" thing happening simultaneously  in each of the cities you so cleverly named and I almost wept in front of Anna as I thought about the impact you have had on people's hearts and minds.  I love you! That’s also how I felt this morning watching the blog video from Seattle, in amazement of what my brother Mark orchestrated!  I am so, so, so , so proud of you Mark!  This work will surely be your legacy and live on in protest legend! With such a positive and optimistic message I expect that you brought people into the fold who were formerly on the sidelines.  I was imagining this “batman projection” thing happening simultaneously  in each of the cities you so cleverly named and I almost wept in front of Anna as I thought about the impact you have had on people’s hearts and minds.  I love you!

]]> By: otterspace2001 http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1275210 otterspace2001 Sat, 19 Nov 2011 20:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1275210 THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!   A cry from the heart of the world...that's the one that made me cry happily hopefully! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!  

A cry from the heart of the world…that’s the one that made me cry happily hopefully!

]]> By: John A Arkansawyer http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1275108 John A Arkansawyer Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:59:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1275108 Yes. Next question? Yes. Next question?

]]> By: John A Arkansawyer http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1275106 John A Arkansawyer Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:58:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1275106 A friendly amendment: "Cops have their military LRAD for projecting pain, #OWS has the bat-signal for projecting ideas." A friendly amendment: “Cops have their military LRAD for projecting pain, #OWS has the bat-signal for projecting ideas.”

]]> By: John A Arkansawyer http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1275103 John A Arkansawyer Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:56:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1275103 Yes. Next question? Yes. Next question?

]]> By: Steve thetuna http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1274957 Steve thetuna Sat, 19 Nov 2011 16:25:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1274957 As you read this, the 1,210 billionairres worldwide who own Exxon, Boeing, ATT, Haliburton, Monsanto, Fox News, Novartis, WalMart, Koch Industries, CocaCola, etc yawn and tell their aides to increase their security budgets.   They then dial their lobbyists and paid political hacks to ensure the DOD, Interpol and worldwide Intelligence Agencies get the names of the organizers so they can be rounded up in the middle of the night and taken to  KBR or Bechtel built "re-education camps" where you will be tortured, disappeared or drugged into submission.    This movement may make you feel good, may make you think there is hope for future generations and that fairness and economic opportunity will magically appear just because millions strive for it.   You know in your heart that Occupy is an inconsequential blip on their radar until these global conspirators are publicly tried and convicted of crimes against humanity.  Even then, a small cadres of them will have to mysteriously disappear, or be assassinated and dragged through the streets, their children are kidnapped and held hostage, or  IMF or Bilderberg meetings carpet bombed until economic justice prevails.    Gaddaffi, Assad, Amin, Cheney et al are absolute proof that wealth and tyrannical power never gives itself up willingly.   If you're not prepared to die dragging the oligarchs screaming from their guarded mansions and yachts, society will not change.   There are lots of military and police itching to put you in a mass grave because you threaten the authority of their masters.    There are 'futurists' at DARPA, GE and other firms today inventing technologies that enable an elite global society of several million, served by slaves and robots.   When  confronted by an evil that seeks untold power at the expense of billions of lives, how do you react?    Do you appeal to reason, or do you snuff it out?    Do you think Hitler or Marcos or Mugabe or Pinochet or Pol Pot or Idi Amin could be persuaded with some tea and compassionate conversation?   "Property is theft. Nobody 'owns' anything. When you die, it all stays here." — George Carlin.    As you read this, the 1,210 billionairres worldwide who own Exxon, Boeing, ATT, Haliburton, Monsanto, Fox News, Novartis, WalMart, Koch Industries, CocaCola, etc yawn and tell their aides to increase their security budgets.   They then dial their lobbyists and paid political hacks to ensure the DOD, Interpol and worldwide Intelligence Agencies get the names of the organizers so they can be rounded up in the middle of the night and taken to  KBR or Bechtel built “re-education camps” where you will be tortured, disappeared or drugged into submission.    This movement may make you feel good, may make you think there is hope for future generations and that fairness and economic opportunity will magically appear just because millions strive for it.   You know in your heart that Occupy is an inconsequential blip on their radar until these global conspirators are publicly tried and convicted of crimes against humanity.  Even then, a small cadres of them will have to mysteriously disappear, or be assassinated and dragged through the streets, their children are kidnapped and held hostage, or  IMF or Bilderberg meetings carpet bombed until economic justice prevails.    Gaddaffi, Assad, Amin, Cheney et al are absolute proof that wealth and tyrannical power never gives itself up willingly.   If you’re not prepared to die dragging the oligarchs screaming from their guarded mansions and yachts, society will not change.   There are lots of military and police itching to put you in a mass grave because you threaten the authority of their masters.    There are ‘futurists’ at DARPA, GE and other firms today inventing technologies that enable an elite global society of several million, served by slaves and robots.   When  confronted by an evil that seeks untold power at the expense of billions of lives, how do you react?    Do you appeal to reason, or do you snuff it out?    Do you think Hitler or Marcos or Mugabe or Pinochet or Pol Pot or Idi Amin could be persuaded with some tea and compassionate conversation?  
“Property is theft. Nobody ‘owns’ anything. When you die, it all stays here.”
— George Carlin.   

]]> By: Cowicide http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1274816 Cowicide Sat, 19 Nov 2011 13:03:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1274816 <blockquote>The revolution will not be televised.</blockquote> <b>The revolution will be improvised.</b>

The revolution will not be televised.

The revolution will be improvised.

]]> By: zapmac http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1274810 zapmac Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:52:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1274810 Inspired!  Please could the workers on the project make their modul8 Project for this available for others to use and adapt? Brighton, UK Inspired! 
Please could the workers on the project make their modul8 Project for this available for others to use and adapt?
Brighton, UK

]]> By: Older_Wiser2 http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1274755 Older_Wiser2 Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:38:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1274755 This is so fantastic!  Congratulations to all of you who used your talents for good.  As a single, working mom of 2 who gave herself to "the movement" back in the day,  I admire Denise Vega's contribution--sometimes it's something we can't put a price on but is from our heart.    And for the first time in many, many years I feel revitalized at age 70 by the Occupy movement  and more hopeful for my grandchildren and great-grandchildren's future.  Save the planet from the predators--save ourselves.   We are the change we've been looking for all along. This is so fantastic!  Congratulations to all of you who used your talents for good.  As a single, working mom of 2 who gave herself to “the movement” back in the day,  I admire Denise Vega’s contribution–sometimes it’s something we can’t put a price on but is from our heart.    And for the first time in many, many years I feel revitalized at age 70 by the Occupy movement  and more hopeful for my grandchildren and great-grandchildren’s future.  Save the planet from the predators–save ourselves.   We are the change we’ve been looking for all along.

]]> By: flopdog http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1274734 flopdog Sat, 19 Nov 2011 08:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1274734 12k lumens, not watts.B) 12k lumens, not watts.B)

]]> By: helen kay keenan http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1274686 helen kay keenan Sat, 19 Nov 2011 07:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1274686 it's  a shame the american states are mentioned then the World, leaving out what's happening in europe..... o were other countries mentioned but it was too fast to pick out it’s  a shame the american states are mentioned then the World, leaving out what’s happening in europe….. o were other countries mentioned but it was too fast to pick out

]]> By: MattInBrooklyn http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1274664 MattInBrooklyn Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:58:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1274664 The OWS movement isn't about any one specific demand. It's about spreading the idea that an unjust economy based solely on profit and greed is unsustainable, and unacceptable, and harmful to a lot of people. We're spreading a meme, so to speak. Everyone who this meme spreads to will respond to it differently.  So instead of focusing on any one strategy, this movement is about spreading the idea, and encouraging everyone to get behind whatever strategy that suits them best. That might be working to end the fed, or it might be trying to legislate and end to Wall St. bonuses, or it might be starting a soup kitchen.  The specific strategies are not the point. The point is to empower the 99% to take action together, and the bat-signal project described here is a perfect example of how the 99% gets things done together. Our collective action can make anything happen when we come up with great ideas and just help each other. All it takes is one person with a good idea, and the will to ask for help. That is the essence of a "leaderless" movement. We are all leaders, and we empower each other to make amazing things happen by working together. The OWS movement isn’t about any one specific demand. It’s about spreading the idea that an unjust economy based solely on profit and greed is unsustainable, and unacceptable, and harmful to a lot of people. We’re spreading a meme, so to speak. Everyone who this meme spreads to will respond to it differently. 

So instead of focusing on any one strategy, this movement is about spreading the idea, and encouraging everyone to get behind whatever strategy that suits them best. That might be working to end the fed, or it might be trying to legislate and end to Wall St. bonuses, or it might be starting a soup kitchen. 

The specific strategies are not the point. The point is to empower the 99% to take action together, and the bat-signal project described here is a perfect example of how the 99% gets things done together. Our collective action can make anything happen when we come up with great ideas and just help each other. All it takes is one person with a good idea, and the will to ask for help. That is the essence of a “leaderless” movement. We are all leaders, and we empower each other to make amazing things happen by working together.

]]> By: MattInBrooklyn http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1274655 MattInBrooklyn Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:47:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1274655 I was there, marching across the bridge. And when we saw these projections we erupted. It was a great feeling to see that, it really felt like the movement is unstoppable. Thanks for publishing this BoingBoing. So much of the main stream press reported on Nov 15th as if it were a traffic report. X number arrested, traffic snarled at this intersection or that interection. Very little mention of WHY we did what we did on Thursday. By the way, I really think you should not publish the name of the person who lives in the apartment unless she explicitly said she wants to be known. I was there, marching across the bridge. And when we saw these projections we erupted. It was a great feeling to see that, it really felt like the movement is unstoppable. Thanks for publishing this BoingBoing. So much of the main stream press reported on Nov 15th as if it were a traffic report. X number arrested, traffic snarled at this intersection or that interection. Very little mention of WHY we did what we did on Thursday.

By the way, I really think you should not publish the name of the person who lives in the apartment unless she explicitly said she wants to be known.

]]> By: Mark http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1274642 Mark Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1274642 i am in awe and am so grateful to you all for being out there in the streets. maybe there really is hope that real positive change for us ordinary americans can happen after all.... i am in awe and am so grateful to you all for being out there in the streets. maybe there really is hope that real positive change for us ordinary americans can happen after all….

]]> By: cyber5 http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1274569 cyber5 Sat, 19 Nov 2011 05:31:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1274569 That is totally #BADASS. I can tell you that this was no small feat, by any standards - the fact that it was done with borrowed gear, a borrowed apartment and "on the fly" is just amazing.  That is totally #BADASS. I can tell you that this was no small feat, by any standards – the fact that it was done with borrowed gear, a borrowed apartment and “on the fly” is just amazing. 

]]> By: edrowland http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1274561 edrowland Sat, 19 Nov 2011 05:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1274561 Inquiring minds want to know: what did you use to supply electricity to a 12,000 watt projector? Given that a wall plug only produces 2,000 watts, powering the thing must have been more interesting than the projector itself Inquiring minds want to know: what did you use to supply electricity to a 12,000 watt projector? Given that a wall plug only produces 2,000 watts, powering the thing must have been more interesting than the projector itself

]]> By: Bodhi Goforth http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1274486 Bodhi Goforth Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1274486 This... is... so... hella freak-ass cool.  Huge huge thanks to Mark Read and his team for the projection, to Xeni Jardin for the great reporting of this blessed event, to the single mom who provided a safe place for the projector and who is an absolute hero, to all the folks at all the occupies worldwide, heroes all, and everyone else even remotely responsible for making it all happen...   I will sleep easier tonight knowing my world is filled with people like you.  In great gratitude & love for all of you, you rock my world! Bodhi Goforth Eugene OR  This… is… so… hella freak-ass cool.  Huge huge thanks to Mark Read and his team for the projection, to Xeni Jardin for the great reporting of this blessed event, to the single mom who provided a safe place for the projector and who is an absolute hero, to all the folks at all the occupies worldwide, heroes all, and everyone else even remotely responsible for making it all happen…   I will sleep easier tonight knowing my world is filled with people like you. 
In great gratitude & love for all of you, you rock my world!
Bodhi Goforth
Eugene OR 

]]> By: ACiencin http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html#comment-1274487 ACiencin Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=130081#comment-1274487 It is a great letter. But it doesn't say what needs to be done. "All the” 99%” wants is for you to remember the role that Wall Street played in creating this mess, and for you to join us in demanding that Wall Street share the pain. They don’t want to share the pain, and they’re spending a lot of money and twisting a lot of arms to foist their share of the pain on the rest of us instead. And they’ve been given unprecedented powers to spend and twist, and they’re not even trying to hide what they’re doing. All we want is for everybody to remember what happened, and to see what is happening still. And we want you to see that the only way they can get away without paying their share is to undermine the American Dream for the rest of us. And I want you and I to understand each other, and to stand together to prevent them from doing that. You seem like the kind of guy who would be a strong ally, and I’d be proud to stand with you." Sooooo... does that mean the 99% just wants an apology? "Sorry we screwed up your lives, we'll try not to do it again." Or does the 99% deserve some kind of "handout"? Or does it mean that the 99% just deserves higher wages? If it's the higher wages, where does the extra money come from? This whole time I have been under the impression that OWS was trying to end the FED... trying to take the influence of money out of politics. Am I wrong? It is a great letter. But it doesn’t say what needs to be done.

“All the” 99%” wants is for you to remember the role that Wall Street played in creating this mess, and for you to join us in demanding that Wall Street share the pain. They don’t want to share the pain, and they’re spending a lot of money and twisting a lot of arms to foist their share of the pain on the rest of us instead. And they’ve been given unprecedented powers to spend and twist, and they’re not even trying to hide what they’re doing. All we want is for everybody to remember what happened, and to see what is happening still. And we want you to see that the only way they can get away without paying their share is to undermine the American Dream for the rest of us. And I want you and I to understand each other, and to stand together to prevent them from doing that. You seem like the kind of guy who would be a strong ally, and I’d be proud to stand with you.”

Sooooo… does that mean the 99% just wants an apology? “Sorry we screwed up your lives, we’ll try not to do it again.” Or does the 99% deserve some kind of “handout”? Or does it mean that the 99% just deserves higher wages? If it’s the higher wages, where does the extra money come from?

This whole time I have been under the impression that OWS was trying to end the FED… trying to take the influence of money out of politics. Am I wrong?

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