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	<title>Comments on: OWS library is rebuilding after being trashed by NYPD, needs your donated&#160;books</title>
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		<title>By: Catlin Marie</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/ows-library-is-rebuilding-afte.html#comment-1275230</link>
		<dc:creator>Catlin Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They had the library so that they could read and reference issues on american rights and responsibilities, writings about history, and legal issues with civil rights, and economics.  It was not so much about the pulp fiction as actual need for references.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They had the library so that they could read and reference issues on american rights and responsibilities, writings about history, and legal issues with civil rights, and economics.  It was not so much about the pulp fiction as actual need for references.</p>
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		<title>By: AnthonyC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnthonyC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 04:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but it&#039;s still worth reading, in the same way it is worthwhile for atheists to read the bible, the koran, and any other holy books relevant to their culture. Know why the other people believe what they do, and you&#039;re in a much better place to advance your cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but it&#8217;s still worth reading, in the same way it is worthwhile for atheists to read the bible, the koran, and any other holy books relevant to their culture. Know why the other people believe what they do, and you&#8217;re in a much better place to advance your cause.</p>
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		<title>By: miasm</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/ows-library-is-rebuilding-afte.html#comment-1274281</link>
		<dc:creator>miasm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dammit you trolls! I came too late to reply in direct fashion but... 
Apart from the fact that it&#039;s just cool to have a book lending service at the protest, they also hold materials for not only better understanding the structure of the protest but also how to get involved in the various committees and processes that are the day-today reality of the occupation.

Anybody questioning the validity of the need for some kind of central information resource, misunderstands the nature of long-term activity, nevermind protest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dammit you trolls! I came too late to reply in direct fashion but&#8230;<br />
Apart from the fact that it&#8217;s just cool to have a book lending service at the protest, they also hold materials for not only better understanding the structure of the protest but also how to get involved in the various committees and processes that are the day-today reality of the occupation.</p>
<p>Anybody questioning the validity of the need for some kind of central information resource, misunderstands the nature of long-term activity, nevermind protest.</p>
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		<title>By: GregS</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Oh, please, please do not donate anything by Ayn Rand.

Yes, definitely don&#039;t. We wouldn&#039;t want them reading anything that might make them start questioning the leftist progressive orthodoxy all their professors taught them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Oh, please, please do not donate anything by Ayn Rand.</p>
<p>Yes, definitely don&#8217;t. We wouldn&#8217;t want them reading anything that might make them start questioning the leftist progressive orthodoxy all their professors taught them.</p>
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		<title>By: thereislightonthehorizon</title>
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		<dc:creator>thereislightonthehorizon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  All of these uninformed masses. ( They) who have benefited from all, that others before them have laid down, are the first to ridicule change that will benefit them in the future.  Too bad they will still be hardened by their own doctrine and will not be able to enjoy the social changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  All of these uninformed masses. ( They) who have benefited from all, that others before them have laid down, are the first to ridicule change that will benefit them in the future.  Too bad they will still be hardened by their own doctrine and will not be able to enjoy the social changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Tavie</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/ows-library-is-rebuilding-afte.html#comment-1273653</link>
		<dc:creator>Tavie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where can we drop off donations in person??</description>
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		<title>By: Noah Sheola</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/ows-library-is-rebuilding-afte.html#comment-1273260</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah Sheola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 03:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might I suggest the New York Public Library as an alternative?  The NYPL is among largest and finest public libraries the world has ever known.  They have over 50 million books and you can read them inside a nice building instead of under a tarp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might I suggest the New York Public Library as an alternative?  The NYPL is among largest and finest public libraries the world has ever known.  They have over 50 million books and you can read them inside a nice building instead of under a tarp.</p>
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		<title>By: artaxerxes</title>
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		<dc:creator>artaxerxes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 03:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The primary objective of OWS, which has been met within 2-4 months (cf. Maddow&#039;s piece), is to open a public dialogue and bring into common discourse the many ways in which our democratic society has devolved into a money-making machine for a small percentage of the population who exerts undue influence on public policy at the behest of lobbyists.

Collecting and sharing literature that educates citizens on their rights and the true state of the nation perfectly fulfills the mission of the Occupy Movement. The books are not available only to those who can show a proof of tent residence; they are there to offer all citizens the literature they may be interested in better understanding the challenges this nation faces and how to formulate actions and programs to rebuild a stronger democracy that has a chance of surviving into the 22nd century.

I continue to be surprised at criticism leveled at Occupy such as, &quot;They&#039;re just not doing anything constructive! Where&#039;s their cohesive message?&quot; When I read these criticisms, I wonder whether those who make them recall the utterly silent, stultifying environment of the years that saw the Judiciary corrupt our electoral system and select the President of the USA.

Were they part of the large, but entirely ignored, group of Americans who protested the legislature&#039;s jingoistic, fear-driven embrace of the transparently false casus belli that involved the US in an extended &quot;non-war&quot; that solely benefited the members of the administration and their corporate associates? manipulation of truth that resulted in our extended involvement in two &quot;non-wars&quot;? OVer the last decade, did they commiserate with friends over the progressive eradication of fundamental constitutional rights? Did they note the progressive privatization of public spaces as government re-directed tax revenue from infrastructure to war and financial incentives to the wealthy?

After ten years of dialogue entirely defined and driven by Rovian doctrine, OWS has changed the nature of public conversations. The Occupy Movement marks the beginning of an arduous process of addressing the overwhelming number of problems facing a democracy turned kleptocracy. 

Libraries and schools have been prominent victims in the war on education and social programs that were instrumental in making this country the flawed but uniquely wonderful nation it was. Creating and maintaining libraries in occupied public space seems perfectly logical and germane to the Occupy Movement. 

And why is everyone so damned upset over a library?! It&#039;s a library. You know, with books and magazines that can be shared and discussed? I owe most of my education to the public library. Harold Bloom, Alfred Kazin, even that hypocritical twat Ayn Rand, have proudly claimed the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The primary objective of OWS, which has been met within 2-4 months (cf. Maddow&#8217;s piece), is to open a public dialogue and bring into common discourse the many ways in which our democratic society has devolved into a money-making machine for a small percentage of the population who exerts undue influence on public policy at the behest of lobbyists.</p>
<p>Collecting and sharing literature that educates citizens on their rights and the true state of the nation perfectly fulfills the mission of the Occupy Movement. The books are not available only to those who can show a proof of tent residence; they are there to offer all citizens the literature they may be interested in better understanding the challenges this nation faces and how to formulate actions and programs to rebuild a stronger democracy that has a chance of surviving into the 22nd century.</p>
<p>I continue to be surprised at criticism leveled at Occupy such as, &#8220;They&#8217;re just not doing anything constructive! Where&#8217;s their cohesive message?&#8221; When I read these criticisms, I wonder whether those who make them recall the utterly silent, stultifying environment of the years that saw the Judiciary corrupt our electoral system and select the President of the USA.</p>
<p>Were they part of the large, but entirely ignored, group of Americans who protested the legislature&#8217;s jingoistic, fear-driven embrace of the transparently false casus belli that involved the US in an extended &#8220;non-war&#8221; that solely benefited the members of the administration and their corporate associates? manipulation of truth that resulted in our extended involvement in two &#8220;non-wars&#8221;? OVer the last decade, did they commiserate with friends over the progressive eradication of fundamental constitutional rights? Did they note the progressive privatization of public spaces as government re-directed tax revenue from infrastructure to war and financial incentives to the wealthy?</p>
<p>After ten years of dialogue entirely defined and driven by Rovian doctrine, OWS has changed the nature of public conversations. The Occupy Movement marks the beginning of an arduous process of addressing the overwhelming number of problems facing a democracy turned kleptocracy. </p>
<p>Libraries and schools have been prominent victims in the war on education and social programs that were instrumental in making this country the flawed but uniquely wonderful nation it was. Creating and maintaining libraries in occupied public space seems perfectly logical and germane to the Occupy Movement. </p>
<p>And why is everyone so damned upset over a library?! It&#8217;s a library. You know, with books and magazines that can be shared and discussed? I owe most of my education to the public library. Harold Bloom, Alfred Kazin, even that hypocritical twat Ayn Rand, have proudly claimed the same.</p>
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		<title>By: fett101</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/ows-library-is-rebuilding-afte.html#comment-1273225</link>
		<dc:creator>fett101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crap.  I hope the cash I deposited in the OWS First National Bank is OK. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crap.  I hope the cash I deposited in the OWS First National Bank is OK. </p>
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		<title>By: Moriarty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moriarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 01:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better yet, burn all copies! Right, fellas?</description>
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		<title>By: jimkirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimkirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 01:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Wherever they burn books they will also, in the end, burn human beings.&quot;  ~Heinrich Heine, Almansor, 1823</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wherever they burn books they will also, in the end, burn human beings.&#8221;  ~Heinrich Heine, Almansor, 1823</p>
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		<title>By: Deidzoeb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/ows-library-is-rebuilding-afte.html#comment-1273169</link>
		<dc:creator>Deidzoeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Send donations of bone china to:

Occupy Bull Pasture
Feedlot 27
Lawrence, KS 66044

I love me some libraries, books, OWS, protests, and I&#039;m disgusted with cops, but come on. Why would a smart librarian waste time working on such an obviously unsustainable &quot;library&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Send donations of bone china to:</p>
<p>Occupy Bull Pasture<br />
Feedlot 27<br />
Lawrence, KS 66044</p>
<p>I love me some libraries, books, OWS, protests, and I&#8217;m disgusted with cops, but come on. Why would a smart librarian waste time working on such an obviously unsustainable &#8220;library&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Deidzoeb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/ows-library-is-rebuilding-afte.html#comment-1273168</link>
		<dc:creator>Deidzoeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Having a library seems to strengthen the point of those objectors that this is a place to live and not in the true spirit of civil disobedience.&quot;

I don&#039;t see that those are mutually exclusive. They&#039;re doing long term civil disobedience by turning parks into places to live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Having a library seems to strengthen the point of those objectors that this is a place to live and not in the true spirit of civil disobedience.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see that those are mutually exclusive. They&#8217;re doing long term civil disobedience by turning parks into places to live.</p>
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		<title>By: clasiqueando</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/ows-library-is-rebuilding-afte.html#comment-1273083</link>
		<dc:creator>clasiqueando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ marilove: Yikes! You should go work for the NYPD...or learn to recognize sarcasm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ marilove: Yikes! You should go work for the NYPD&#8230;or learn to recognize sarcasm.</p>
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		<title>By: usernamenumber</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/ows-library-is-rebuilding-afte.html#comment-1273048</link>
		<dc:creator>usernamenumber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 22:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;So it doesn&#039;t explicitly forbid said right either, which to my non-lawyer mind suggests that we do indeed have that right.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

See other comments about the constitutionality of reasonable time/place/means restrictions.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;If you define assembly as something more, and of greater duration, than a public meeting lasting a few hours, it fits just fine. So we&#039;ll keep Liberty Square and the People&#039;s Library, thanks for your concern!&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Keeping requires taking, and therein lies the problem. Public space is &lt;i&gt;shared&lt;/i&gt;. That means nobody gets to just take it over, however sympathetic the cause.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;So it doesn&#8217;t explicitly forbid said right either, which to my non-lawyer mind suggests that we do indeed have that right.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>See other comments about the constitutionality of reasonable time/place/means restrictions.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;If you define assembly as something more, and of greater duration, than a public meeting lasting a few hours, it fits just fine. So we&#8217;ll keep Liberty Square and the People&#8217;s Library, thanks for your concern!&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Keeping requires taking, and therein lies the problem. Public space is <i>shared</i>. That means nobody gets to just take it over, however sympathetic the cause.  </p>
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		<title>By: badc0ffee</title>
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		<dc:creator>badc0ffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t donate books to OWS because they&#039;ll just end up as garbage the next time the cops clean the park. Given this, I especially wouldn&#039;t courier the books - what a waste of fuel! Also I&#039;m not sure that the &quot;people&#039;s library&quot; is really doing any good for anyone.

If you want to donate your old books, give them to a prison, halfway house or shelter in your community. Brighten somebody&#039;s day who is in a shitty living situation.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t donate books to OWS because they&#8217;ll just end up as garbage the next time the cops clean the park. Given this, I especially wouldn&#8217;t courier the books &#8211; what a waste of fuel! Also I&#8217;m not sure that the &#8220;people&#8217;s library&#8221; is really doing any good for anyone.</p>
<p>If you want to donate your old books, give them to a prison, halfway house or shelter in your community. Brighten somebody&#8217;s day who is in a shitty living situation.</p>
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		<title>By: EvilPRGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>EvilPRGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out of all the shenanigans that have gone down at OWS over the last two months, dismantling/destroying  the library  is the one that really bothers me. When you start down a path that involves preventing people from reading, it is never the start of anything positive.

I was down in Zuccotti Park on Tuesday night, the evening after the park was &quot;cleared&quot;. I met one of the librarians, who was holding up a sign that said &quot;The Library Is Open&quot;. Here&#039;s a link to my Creative Commons photo of the sign, along with a write up of what I saw involving the library that night.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/emilyrides/6355083001/in/photostream

Later that night, the NYPD told the librarians that they couldn&#039;t set up the library, because laying out books on the groud was a violation of the new park &quot;rules&quot;. An altercation broke out between the librarians and the police. I shot a video of what happened. Unfortuately it&#039;s a bit dark, but you can clearly hear the protestors comments which are hilarious, amazing, on point and funny (also NSFW). The altercation ended with a everyone in the crowd chanting &quot;Books! Books! Books!&quot; which I thought was brilliant and wholly appropriate. Here&#039;s a link to the vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHGTD1vI5uk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of all the shenanigans that have gone down at OWS over the last two months, dismantling/destroying  the library  is the one that really bothers me. When you start down a path that involves preventing people from reading, it is never the start of anything positive.</p>
<p>I was down in Zuccotti Park on Tuesday night, the evening after the park was &#8220;cleared&#8221;. I met one of the librarians, who was holding up a sign that said &#8220;The Library Is Open&#8221;. Here&#8217;s a link to my Creative Commons photo of the sign, along with a write up of what I saw involving the library that night.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/emilyrides/6355083001/in/photostream" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/emilyrides/6355083001/in/photostream</a></p>
<p>Later that night, the NYPD told the librarians that they couldn&#8217;t set up the library, because laying out books on the groud was a violation of the new park &#8220;rules&#8221;. An altercation broke out between the librarians and the police. I shot a video of what happened. Unfortuately it&#8217;s a bit dark, but you can clearly hear the protestors comments which are hilarious, amazing, on point and funny (also NSFW). The altercation ended with a everyone in the crowd chanting &#8220;Books! Books! Books!&#8221; which I thought was brilliant and wholly appropriate. Here&#8217;s a link to the vid:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHGTD1vI5uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHGTD1vI5uk</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donating?  Clearly the message didn&#039;t sink in!</description>
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		<title>By: marilove</title>
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		<dc:creator>marilove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, please, please do not donate anything by Ayn Rand.

That shit is just Tea Bagger, ultra-fundamentalist, Libertarian bullshit.</description>
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<p>That shit is just Tea Bagger, ultra-fundamentalist, Libertarian bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: Arys</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... seems like quite a few folks here don&#039;t really have a good grasp of what real life actual librarians and libraries do... 

Irony of ironies - you know who could fix that gap in your education as well as help you with your detailed research into the US Constitution and the collected study of it, and that bit of grammar that&#039;s in question, and give you some help finding resources about historical protest movements of the past - from suffragettes to the summer of love? 

Answer - A Librarian... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; seems like quite a few folks here don&#8217;t really have a good grasp of what real life actual librarians and libraries do&#8230; </p>
<p>Irony of ironies &#8211; you know who could fix that gap in your education as well as help you with your detailed research into the US Constitution and the collected study of it, and that bit of grammar that&#8217;s in question, and give you some help finding resources about historical protest movements of the past &#8211; from suffragettes to the summer of love? </p>
<p>Answer &#8211; A Librarian&#8230; :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Finnagain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finnagain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would recommend giving business to one of the many local used book sellers. Maybe they deliver?

http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=used+book+stores&amp;find_loc=New+York%2C+NY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would recommend giving business to one of the many local used book sellers. Maybe they deliver?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=used+book+stores&#038;find_loc=New+York%2C+NY" rel="nofollow">http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=used+book+stores&#038;find_loc=New+York%2C+NY</a></p>
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		<title>By: eeeorr</title>
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		<dc:creator>eeeorr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someday, all those kids will sit at their breakfast tables in suburbia drinking coffee, reminiscing about sleeping in the mud and sticking it to the man. Just like Woodstock without the music. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someday, all those kids will sit at their breakfast tables in suburbia drinking coffee, reminiscing about sleeping in the mud and sticking it to the man. Just like Woodstock without the music. </p>
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		<title>By: dutchboy99</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They had been doing a lot of reading in the park?
Sorry not buying it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They had been doing a lot of reading in the park?<br />
Sorry not buying it.</p>
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		<title>By: AVR</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;It was simply a complete disregard for personal (or group) property&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;the police were just showing that they didn&#039;t care about the occupiers&#039; property&lt;/em&gt;

Think very, very hard about the irony in this train of thought. &quot;Occupation&quot; is the very definition of disregarding the property rights of others - why expect better treatment going the other direction?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>It was simply a complete disregard for personal (or group) property</em></p>
<p><em>the police were just showing that they didn&#8217;t care about the occupiers&#8217; property</em></p>
<p>Think very, very hard about the irony in this train of thought. &#8220;Occupation&#8221; is the very definition of disregarding the property rights of others &#8211; why expect better treatment going the other direction?</p>
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		<title>By: tiredofit</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t talk about the park.  Just that we are allowed to peaceably assembly without being in the process of petitioning our government.  For instance, the government has no right to stop my family from having a reunion in a public space -- even if we are not demanding redress for some wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t talk about the park.  Just that we are allowed to peaceably assembly without being in the process of petitioning our government.  For instance, the government has no right to stop my family from having a reunion in a public space &#8212; even if we are not demanding redress for some wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Frankie Frackless</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frankie Frackless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I guess we knew they&#039;d trash everything in the late-night raid &amp; clear operation on Tuesday night, but did we think they&#039;d do it again less than 48 hours later? They did, during a media blackout, but here&#039;s proof (the trashing starts 5:00 in) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loKZLnn_fXU</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I guess we knew they&#8217;d trash everything in the late-night raid &amp; clear operation on Tuesday night, but did we think they&#8217;d do it again less than 48 hours later? They did, during a media blackout, but here&#8217;s proof (the trashing starts 5:00 in) <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loKZLnn_fXU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loKZLnn_fXU</a></p>
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		<title>By: ChicagoD</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/ows-library-is-rebuilding-afte.html#comment-1272962</link>
		<dc:creator>ChicagoD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I know, you use semicolons to separate items in a list that contain commas themselves. This avoids ambiguity. In current usage I think we continue with the semicolons. They evidently did not.

P.S. It may be pedantic (&quot;overly concerned with minute details or formalisms, especially in teaching&quot;), but so is Constitutional interpretation. That&#039;s just how it goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I know, you use semicolons to separate items in a list that contain commas themselves. This avoids ambiguity. In current usage I think we continue with the semicolons. They evidently did not.</p>
<p>P.S. It may be pedantic (&#8220;overly concerned with minute details or formalisms, especially in teaching&#8221;), but so is Constitutional interpretation. That&#8217;s just how it goes.</p>
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		<title>By: GregS</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; I think the police were just showing that they didn&#039;t care about the occupiers&#039; property

Well, what goes around comes around. The occupiers showed that they don&#039;t give a damn about private property, by essentially appropriating  Zuccotti Park (which is private property) for their own use, so they shouldn&#039;t be too outraged that the authorities apparently agree with them on that point.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; I think the police were just showing that they didn&#8217;t care about the occupiers&#8217; property</p>
<p>Well, what goes around comes around. The occupiers showed that they don&#8217;t give a damn about private property, by essentially appropriating  Zuccotti Park (which is private property) for their own use, so they shouldn&#8217;t be too outraged that the authorities apparently agree with them on that point.</p>
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		<title>By: usernamenumber</title>
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		<dc:creator>usernamenumber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe this is getting pedantic, and IANACL, but see how all the other phrases are seperated by semicolons, and the connection between assembly and redress is not? I assume that to be significant. Then again, sure, I could be wrong.

In any case, the constitution also says that SCOTUS gets the final say on implementation of the constitution, and it&#039;s been upheld that reasonable, content-neutral, time/place/manner restrictions can be placed on assembly, provided they meet several criteria (http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/timeplacemanner.htm). Does saying that you can&#039;t just turn a public park into an open-ended, 24/7 tent city sound so unreasonable?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this is getting pedantic, and IANACL, but see how all the other phrases are seperated by semicolons, and the connection between assembly and redress is not? I assume that to be significant. Then again, sure, I could be wrong.</p>
<p>In any case, the constitution also says that SCOTUS gets the final say on implementation of the constitution, and it&#8217;s been upheld that reasonable, content-neutral, time/place/manner restrictions can be placed on assembly, provided they meet several criteria (<a href="http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/timeplacemanner.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/timeplacemanner.htm</a>). Does saying that you can&#8217;t just turn a public park into an open-ended, 24/7 tent city sound so unreasonable?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Cresswell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Cresswell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tachyon, who publish my essay collections, alerted me to this when they wrote to ask if I minded them donating copies of my books to the effort (the answer was an enthusiastic yes!).

I&#039;m sure they will find your book very &#039;Absorbing&#039; when visiting the chemical toilets !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tachyon, who publish my essay collections, alerted me to this when they wrote to ask if I minded them donating copies of my books to the effort (the answer was an enthusiastic yes!).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure they will find your book very &#8216;Absorbing&#8217; when visiting the chemical toilets !</p>
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