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		<title>By: duncandavidson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1277373</link>
		<dc:creator>duncandavidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 04:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t assume that there was no communication between the companies. It&#039;d be absolutely silly to remove a product from sale right before the busy holiday season without good reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t assume that there was no communication between the companies. It&#8217;d be absolutely silly to remove a product from sale right before the busy holiday season without good reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Culmer</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1274813</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Culmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only for a limited period - I think it&#039;s about 20 years in the UK for example.

That&#039;s why (for example) big pharma spends so much on research: not beccause they want to find new cures, or better ones, but because they are losing their monopoly on the old ones, and need to find something else that no-one else can sell without buying a licence from them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only for a limited period &#8211; I think it&#8217;s about 20 years in the UK for example.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why (for example) big pharma spends so much on research: not beccause they want to find new cures, or better ones, but because they are losing their monopoly on the old ones, and need to find something else that no-one else can sell without buying a licence from them.</p>
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		<title>By: MrWoods</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1273592</link>
		<dc:creator>MrWoods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy Shit! 20 years, for a camera strap. 20 years seems like a ridiculously long time to have a monopoly.  Although I do think this is a great example of someone coming up with a gadget that makes the world better.

I think the premise that people wouldn&#039;t be making these things if there wasn&#039;t exclusivity is BS.  Patent life should be tied to the R&amp;D investment in the product, and contingent on you actually making the product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy Shit! 20 years, for a camera strap. 20 years seems like a ridiculously long time to have a monopoly.  Although I do think this is a great example of someone coming up with a gadget that makes the world better.</p>
<p>I think the premise that people wouldn&#8217;t be making these things if there wasn&#8217;t exclusivity is BS.  Patent life should be tied to the R&amp;D investment in the product, and contingent on you actually making the product.</p>
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		<title>By: Def-Proc</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1273399</link>
		<dc:creator>Def-Proc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this a perfect case for &quot;if you&#039;re going to kill it, open source it&quot;?

Patents allow for public discussion of the ideas, and Luma Labs have already decided to sell no more. Everybody wins!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this a perfect case for &#8220;if you&#8217;re going to kill it, open source it&#8221;?</p>
<p>Patents allow for public discussion of the ideas, and Luma Labs have already decided to sell no more. Everybody wins!</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Fleishman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1273343</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Fleishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might note that, in the very first paragraph, I took the piss out of myself in that regard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might note that, in the very first paragraph, I took the piss out of myself in that regard.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Warady</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1273338</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Warady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patents grant exclusivity for a finite period of time, roughly 20 years from the filing date.  So, you could sue the pants off everyone just for that time period, then it is in the public domain for free use.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patents grant exclusivity for a finite period of time, roughly 20 years from the filing date.  So, you could sue the pants off everyone just for that time period, then it is in the public domain for free use.  </p>
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		<title>By: noah django</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1273337</link>
		<dc:creator>noah django</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I concur wholeheartedly.  After learning photography with a fully manual SLR [probably the last generation to learn on film with darkrooms,] I put aside photography for quite some time.  When I recently started again, I wanted a digital machine, but much as I loved my old SLR, the ONE thing I was excited about was NOT lugging that awkwardly-shaped heavy beast around everyday.

Sure, I miss manual controls on the lens; but I can shoot RAW format, get thru-the-lens framing, and use manual settings on a camera that fits in my pocket!

It baffles me how many amateur photographers lug DSLRs around with bags full of extra gear.  I can get the same shots, usually.  Embrace the obvious advantage of the digital format:  miniaturization.  You can hold both a baby and a smaller camera, then forget about special straps and patent-trolling altogether.

[sage for off-topic but the post itself switched topics a few times so I don&#039;t feel too bad]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur wholeheartedly.  After learning photography with a fully manual SLR [probably the last generation to learn on film with darkrooms,] I put aside photography for quite some time.  When I recently started again, I wanted a digital machine, but much as I loved my old SLR, the ONE thing I was excited about was NOT lugging that awkwardly-shaped heavy beast around everyday.</p>
<p>Sure, I miss manual controls on the lens; but I can shoot RAW format, get thru-the-lens framing, and use manual settings on a camera that fits in my pocket!</p>
<p>It baffles me how many amateur photographers lug DSLRs around with bags full of extra gear.  I can get the same shots, usually.  Embrace the obvious advantage of the digital format:  miniaturization.  You can hold both a baby and a smaller camera, then forget about special straps and patent-trolling altogether.</p>
<p>[sage for off-topic but the post itself switched topics a few times so I don't feel too bad]</p>
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		<title>By: DaveP</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1273296</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there&#039;s a good chance of that, Matt... of course Luma is overreacting!  Good grief, they shut down production altogether instead of picking up the phone and calling Black Rapid?  I&#039;m not saying its likely, but there is the potential that this gets resolved with a ten minute chat and then GF can write twenty paragraphs about something more interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s a good chance of that, Matt&#8230; of course Luma is overreacting!  Good grief, they shut down production altogether instead of picking up the phone and calling Black Rapid?  I&#8217;m not saying its likely, but there is the potential that this gets resolved with a ten minute chat and then GF can write twenty paragraphs about something more interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: hinten</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1273031</link>
		<dc:creator>hinten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 22:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the C-Loop from Custom SLR when they started the project on Kickstarter. Couldn&#039;t be happier with the combination of their Split Strap. 
Now I wonder why they didn&#039;t see any patent conflict issues and they, to my knowledge, were never approached by any lawyers.
Just a happy customer: http://www.customslr.com/

I don&#039;t know this space very well but after reading this article I cannot decide between &#039;unjust&#039; and &#039;premature hyperbole&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the C-Loop from Custom SLR when they started the project on Kickstarter. Couldn&#8217;t be happier with the combination of their Split Strap.<br />
Now I wonder why they didn&#8217;t see any patent conflict issues and they, to my knowledge, were never approached by any lawyers.<br />
Just a happy customer: <a href="http://www.customslr.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.customslr.com/</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know this space very well but after reading this article I cannot decide between &#8216;unjust&#8217; and &#8216;premature hyperbole&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: duncandavidson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1272969</link>
		<dc:creator>duncandavidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, you shouldn&#039;t worry or second guess a decision about buying a Black Rapid strap because of this.

Personally, I&#039;m a strong believer in that everyone should use the gear that helps them to be their most effective when they are out in the field. Everything you buy and use should be in the service of making images—that&#039;s the most important thing. If you prefer it to any other single point sling (or any other strap for that matter) still on the market, then that&#039;s the one you should get. And I&#039;d tell you that even if the Loop were still for sale. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, you shouldn&#8217;t worry or second guess a decision about buying a Black Rapid strap because of this.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m a strong believer in that everyone should use the gear that helps them to be their most effective when they are out in the field. Everything you buy and use should be in the service of making images—that&#8217;s the most important thing. If you prefer it to any other single point sling (or any other strap for that matter) still on the market, then that&#8217;s the one you should get. And I&#8217;d tell you that even if the Loop were still for sale. </p>
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		<title>By: jimkirk</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1272966</link>
		<dc:creator>jimkirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My name is on a few patents, and I&#039;ve also designed circuits to skirt around others&#039; patents.  Sometimes the &quot;novel and non-obvous&quot; aspect isn&#039;t apparent to the designers; several times I&#039;ve been told &quot;well, it wouldn&#039;t be obvious to anyone else...&quot;

Still, my favorite lawyer joke was told to me by a patent lawyer:  &quot;I don&#039;t like to use Laten, per se...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My name is on a few patents, and I&#8217;ve also designed circuits to skirt around others&#8217; patents.  Sometimes the &#8220;novel and non-obvous&#8221; aspect isn&#8217;t apparent to the designers; several times I&#8217;ve been told &#8220;well, it wouldn&#8217;t be obvious to anyone else&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Still, my favorite lawyer joke was told to me by a patent lawyer:  &#8220;I don&#8217;t like to use Laten, per se&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Johan Broad</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1272932</link>
		<dc:creator>Johan Broad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What amazes me here is that someone tried to copyright what is essentially a strap and a clip. Both of which can be purchased at a hardware store for less that $10.00.

Nylon Straps, Snap clips, and quick release buckles are cheap and plentiful. If you are a photographer, go make your own!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What amazes me here is that someone tried to copyright what is essentially a strap and a clip. Both of which can be purchased at a hardware store for less that $10.00.</p>
<p>Nylon Straps, Snap clips, and quick release buckles are cheap and plentiful. If you are a photographer, go make your own!!!</p>
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		<title>By: gadgetphile</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1272889</link>
		<dc:creator>gadgetphile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IIRC, Luma Loop chose a manufacturer who makes parts for single point rifle slings to make their quick releases.

The interesting challenge here is to prevent the blatant knockoffs as mentioned in the second comment while encouraging innovation. It was my understanding that the Luma Loop&#039;s distinguishing characteristics were the pro strap and the push button quick release (vs. the carabiner style Blask Rapid uses).

An over the shoulder strap with a freely gliding attachment seems a bit too general, even if specifically applied to cameras. The stops to restrict some of the motion may or may not be so straightforward.

Maybe Luma Loop needs to market their strap for rifles that have a thin strap attachment point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IIRC, Luma Loop chose a manufacturer who makes parts for single point rifle slings to make their quick releases.</p>
<p>The interesting challenge here is to prevent the blatant knockoffs as mentioned in the second comment while encouraging innovation. It was my understanding that the Luma Loop&#8217;s distinguishing characteristics were the pro strap and the push button quick release (vs. the carabiner style Blask Rapid uses).</p>
<p>An over the shoulder strap with a freely gliding attachment seems a bit too general, even if specifically applied to cameras. The stops to restrict some of the motion may or may not be so straightforward.</p>
<p>Maybe Luma Loop needs to market their strap for rifles that have a thin strap attachment point?</p>
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		<title>By: kbryan44</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1272885</link>
		<dc:creator>kbryan44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a key difference between the Rapid Strap and a single poing rifle sling. With the RS, the strap itself doesn&#039;t move. The attached camera slides along the strap from the hip to shooting position. With a single point rifle sling, the the strap moves around the body as you move the rifle from storage to firing position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a key difference between the Rapid Strap and a single poing rifle sling. With the RS, the strap itself doesn&#8217;t move. The attached camera slides along the strap from the hip to shooting position. With a single point rifle sling, the the strap moves around the body as you move the rifle from storage to firing position.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Popke</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1272874</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Popke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cynic in me wonders if this isn&#039;t Luma&#039;s idea of communicating. Rather than call BR and talk it out, they decide to write a public letter that makes BR look like patent trolls and hope the ensuing public discussion makes their case for them. It could be that some communication occurred already before the patent was granted and Luma does know BR intends to go after competitors (maybe BR offered a licensing agreement to competitors shortly after filing, but before approval, and no one took them up on the deal because they thought the patent wouldn&#039;t pass muster). 

The optimist in me thinks Luma is just overreacting to a threat that hasn&#039;t fully materialized yet (no one has filed suit against anybody). They&#039;re just making a decision to discontinue a popular product and telling their customers why. This same part of me thinks BR filed this patent in good faith because they sincerely believe it qualifies (though I disagree with them on that point).

The photographer in me prefers Black Rapid&#039;s straps anyway but is now conflicted about buying one because of IP issues. So score one point for Luma I guess, though I&#039;m not certain that&#039;s a good thing either. One thing about the ability to publicly shame people and companies online (or just talk about them without trying to shame them) is that a lot of shots get fired without asking questions first and people&#039;s emotional response to stories tends to overwhelm their reasoning. I&#039;m second guessing a holiday purchase because a company I know little about filed a patent for a device that may or may not qualify for one and another company I know little about is upset by that. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cynic in me wonders if this isn&#8217;t Luma&#8217;s idea of communicating. Rather than call BR and talk it out, they decide to write a public letter that makes BR look like patent trolls and hope the ensuing public discussion makes their case for them. It could be that some communication occurred already before the patent was granted and Luma does know BR intends to go after competitors (maybe BR offered a licensing agreement to competitors shortly after filing, but before approval, and no one took them up on the deal because they thought the patent wouldn&#8217;t pass muster). </p>
<p>The optimist in me thinks Luma is just overreacting to a threat that hasn&#8217;t fully materialized yet (no one has filed suit against anybody). They&#8217;re just making a decision to discontinue a popular product and telling their customers why. This same part of me thinks BR filed this patent in good faith because they sincerely believe it qualifies (though I disagree with them on that point).</p>
<p>The photographer in me prefers Black Rapid&#8217;s straps anyway but is now conflicted about buying one because of IP issues. So score one point for Luma I guess, though I&#8217;m not certain that&#8217;s a good thing either. One thing about the ability to publicly shame people and companies online (or just talk about them without trying to shame them) is that a lot of shots get fired without asking questions first and people&#8217;s emotional response to stories tends to overwhelm their reasoning. I&#8217;m second guessing a holiday purchase because a company I know little about filed a patent for a device that may or may not qualify for one and another company I know little about is upset by that. </p>
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		<title>By: DaveP</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1272790</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>communication is helpful.  luma loop, pick up the phone and call black rapid and maybe you can work something out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>communication is helpful.  luma loop, pick up the phone and call black rapid and maybe you can work something out.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Drage</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1272768</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Drage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tl;dslr</description>
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		<title>By: David Yoon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1272766</link>
		<dc:creator>David Yoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah right, true. So Luma is acting out of fear for what could potentially happen then. That is a bummer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah right, true. So Luma is acting out of fear for what could potentially happen then. That is a bummer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister44</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1272759</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I concur, there are basically single-point rifle slings.  My neighbor has on a Black Rapid, I believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur, there are basically single-point rifle slings.  My neighbor has on a Black Rapid, I believe.</p>
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		<title>By: TFox</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1272753</link>
		<dc:creator>TFox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Litigation is expensive and risky for the patent holder too, especially if there are serious questions about the strength of the patent. They risk losing the entire patent! A patent that, rightly or wrongly, they&#039;ve spent many years and a lot of money obtaining. I&#039;d think a smart patentholder with a weak patent would be eager to license it to a competitor, rather than have to spend money defending it and lose anyway. But it&#039;s business decisions and a poker game for all sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Litigation is expensive and risky for the patent holder too, especially if there are serious questions about the strength of the patent. They risk losing the entire patent! A patent that, rightly or wrongly, they&#8217;ve spent many years and a lot of money obtaining. I&#8217;d think a smart patentholder with a weak patent would be eager to license it to a competitor, rather than have to spend money defending it and lose anyway. But it&#8217;s business decisions and a poker game for all sides.</p>
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		<title>By: The Life Of Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Life Of Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While sadly this recommendation has nothing to do with any IP drama, I cannot suggest strongly enough that any SLR user get a side strap such as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/194968-REG/Hakuba_KGP_02.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt;. It allows the hand to hold and control the weight of the camera, while not involving the fingers at all. This gets you as close to protracted one-handed operation as you’re likely to get with an SLR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While sadly this recommendation has nothing to do with any IP drama, I cannot suggest strongly enough that any SLR user get a side strap such as <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/194968-REG/Hakuba_KGP_02.html" rel="nofollow">this one</a>. It allows the hand to hold and control the weight of the camera, while not involving the fingers at all. This gets you as close to protracted one-handed operation as you’re likely to get with an SLR.</p>
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		<title>By: siliconsunset</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1272719</link>
		<dc:creator>siliconsunset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, your comment hit while I was typing mine out and is much better stated. How is this *significantly* different, thus patentable, than a single-point rifle sling?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, your comment hit while I was typing mine out and is much better stated. How is this *significantly* different, thus patentable, than a single-point rifle sling?</p>
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		<title>By: the_engineer</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1272716</link>
		<dc:creator>the_engineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is interesting and must be the &quot;prior art&quot; and &quot;obviousness&quot; the author alludes to but never mentions. Personally i&#039;m pretty sure BR hasn&#039;t done ANYTHING to deserve negative attention here. Bringing patent trolls into the discussion was totally unnecessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is interesting and must be the &#8220;prior art&#8221; and &#8220;obviousness&#8221; the author alludes to but never mentions. Personally i&#8217;m pretty sure BR hasn&#8217;t done ANYTHING to deserve negative attention here. Bringing patent trolls into the discussion was totally unnecessary.</p>
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		<title>By: siliconsunset</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1272715</link>
		<dc:creator>siliconsunset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a single-point rifle sling attached to a camera. How can anyone sue over this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a single-point rifle sling attached to a camera. How can anyone sue over this?</p>
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		<title>By: the_engineer</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1272713</link>
		<dc:creator>the_engineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Black rapid patented *their* idea first. They haven&#039;t taken any other action. What have they done wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Black rapid patented *their* idea first. They haven&#8217;t taken any other action. What have they done wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: phil baird</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1272710</link>
		<dc:creator>phil baird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sounds like both products borrow heavily from what is called a single point rifle sling--or even better for a camera a single point bungee sling.  I know photographers who use modded rifle slings for just that purpose, I have a dozen slings at home i&#039;m using for a accordion strap project. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sounds like both products borrow heavily from what is called a single point rifle sling&#8211;or even better for a camera a single point bungee sling.  I know photographers who use modded rifle slings for just that purpose, I have a dozen slings at home i&#8217;m using for a accordion strap project. </p>
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		<title>By: hub</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1272704</link>
		<dc:creator>hub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I&#039;m sue that I will disregard BlackRapid products forever, unless there is a change... And I will make sure to tell people why.

I have both kind of strap and I can tell you that theirs is not as good as Luma Labs&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I&#8217;m sue that I will disregard BlackRapid products forever, unless there is a change&#8230; And I will make sure to tell people why.</p>
<p>I have both kind of strap and I can tell you that theirs is not as good as Luma Labs&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: the_engineer</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1272700</link>
		<dc:creator>the_engineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not quite sure what the point of this article is. It goes from praising a product (which isn&#039;t available) to talking about a patent issue that has abosultely nothing to do with this product, and then goes back to talk about why this product isn&#039;t on the market. I suppose this raises the profile of Luma slightly, but i&#039;m not sure what&#039;s at issue here. The author speaks of &quot;Prior art&quot; but cites nothing of actual prior art to speak of. Is he talking about the Military&#039;s M-16 straps or what?

 I actually just recieved a BlackRapid (BR) Strap for an anniversary present from my wife and did do a double take when I saw the &quot;Patent Pending&quot; Statement on the strap itself, so i&#039;m not entirely surprised to see a situation like this, but couldn&#039;t Luma Just talk to BR (who very obviously got there first) and come up with a licensing deal? This is hardly black market extortion, BR got there first in terms of patents. Period. The total fees to dispute this patent will probably cost way more than Luma is likely to pay BR unless of course they&#039;re greedy bastards (which I doubt). Luma might even be able to get away with a one time fee Paid to BR in an approximate amount of what might get spent in the otherwise ensuing patent lawsuit.  To me anyhow, this article seems like just so much ado about nothing. 

Business is Business. TANSTAAFL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not quite sure what the point of this article is. It goes from praising a product (which isn&#8217;t available) to talking about a patent issue that has abosultely nothing to do with this product, and then goes back to talk about why this product isn&#8217;t on the market. I suppose this raises the profile of Luma slightly, but i&#8217;m not sure what&#8217;s at issue here. The author speaks of &#8220;Prior art&#8221; but cites nothing of actual prior art to speak of. Is he talking about the Military&#8217;s M-16 straps or what?</p>
<p> I actually just recieved a BlackRapid (BR) Strap for an anniversary present from my wife and did do a double take when I saw the &#8220;Patent Pending&#8221; Statement on the strap itself, so i&#8217;m not entirely surprised to see a situation like this, but couldn&#8217;t Luma Just talk to BR (who very obviously got there first) and come up with a licensing deal? This is hardly black market extortion, BR got there first in terms of patents. Period. The total fees to dispute this patent will probably cost way more than Luma is likely to pay BR unless of course they&#8217;re greedy bastards (which I doubt). Luma might even be able to get away with a one time fee Paid to BR in an approximate amount of what might get spent in the otherwise ensuing patent lawsuit.  To me anyhow, this article seems like just so much ado about nothing. </p>
<p>Business is Business. TANSTAAFL</p>
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		<title>By: Big_Onion</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1272694</link>
		<dc:creator>Big_Onion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Makes more sense that way. This is what I get for reading and commenting before any caffeine intake.

Kind of an awkwardly worded sentence. Regardless, if something existed as far back as 1885, it surprises me that a patent was awarded. Then again, that seems like a common issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes more sense that way. This is what I get for reading and commenting before any caffeine intake.</p>
<p>Kind of an awkwardly worded sentence. Regardless, if something existed as far back as 1885, it surprises me that a patent was awarded. Then again, that seems like a common issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Graysmith</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/patent-strapcutters.html#comment-1272696</link>
		<dc:creator>Graysmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BlackRapid hasn&#039;t gone after them. Luma Loop stopped producing their straps because they feared they might get sued, but if you read the article there&#039;s nothing to suggest that BlackRapid has done anything at all except file for the patent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BlackRapid hasn&#8217;t gone after them. Luma Loop stopped producing their straps because they feared they might get sued, but if you read the article there&#8217;s nothing to suggest that BlackRapid has done anything at all except file for the patent.</p>
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