Comments on: State appeals dismissal in Michael Allison case, 75 years in prison for recording the police http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sun, 19 May 2013 23:46:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: MrJM http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1287446 MrJM Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:16:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1287446 The Chicago Police routinely videotape the arrests of Occupy protesters. <i>Who Videos the Video-men?</i> The Chicago Police routinely videotape the arrests of Occupy protesters.

Who Videos the Video-men?

]]> By: Fnordius http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1287104 Fnordius Mon, 05 Dec 2011 06:19:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1287104 In all fairness to EH, Ashton Kemerling and marilove, sarcasm is especially hard to convey in a pure text conversation.  In all fairness to EH, Ashton Kemerling and marilove, sarcasm is especially hard to convey in a pure text conversation. 

]]> By: P.F. Bruns http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1287041 P.F. Bruns Mon, 05 Dec 2011 01:43:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1287041 Florida is getting there... Florida is getting there…

]]> By: Clevername http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1286677 Clevername Sun, 04 Dec 2011 00:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1286677 You can blame the country in general when the other 49 states have two governors in a row convicted of federal corruption charges. Since 1953 Illinois has had 10 governors, 4 have been convicted of various offenses and one was acquitted. You can blame the country in general when the other 49 states have two governors in a row convicted of federal corruption charges. Since 1953 Illinois has had 10 governors, 4 have been convicted of various offenses and one was acquitted.

]]> By: That_Anonymous_Coward http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1286418 That_Anonymous_Coward Sat, 03 Dec 2011 10:55:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1286418 "What the hell is wrong with the Illinois government?" Years of corruption and cronyism. Years of an apathetic public willing to accept what they are told they should believe. Years of "not my problem" because they never came for me, so why rock the boat. Years of the Amerikan way. It would be nice if the people stopped pretending that "it is just the way things are" and started demanding better.  But that takes a leader to show them the way.  We've seen what happens to these leaders, and sadly so few seem willing to take a bullet to make a point anymore.  We think we can vote and get change without having to raise our voices in protest.  We think people stupid enough to protest deserve whatever the police do to them.  We think free speech is a great thing, unless it slows down my commute or I have to walk around them and their damn witty signs. America - Land of the "Free*", Home of the Apathetic. * Free as determined by jackbooted thugs who do not need to actually let you have the Freedoms promised by law. “What the hell is wrong with the Illinois government?”

Years of corruption and cronyism.
Years of an apathetic public willing to accept what they are told they should believe.
Years of “not my problem” because they never came for me, so why rock the boat.
Years of the Amerikan way.

It would be nice if the people stopped pretending that “it is just the way things are” and started demanding better.  But that takes a leader to show them the way.  We’ve seen what happens to these leaders, and sadly so few seem willing to take a bullet to make a point anymore.  We think we can vote and get change without having to raise our voices in protest.  We think people stupid enough to protest deserve whatever the police do to them.  We think free speech is a great thing, unless it slows down my commute or I have to walk around them and their damn witty signs.

America – Land of the “Free*”, Home of the Apathetic.

* Free as determined by jackbooted thugs who do not need to actually let you have the Freedoms promised by law.

]]> By: Culturedropout http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1286264 Culturedropout Sat, 03 Dec 2011 02:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1286264 WHAT. INCREDIBLE. FUCKING. BULLSHIT. WHAT. INCREDIBLE. FUCKING. BULLSHIT.

]]> By: flosofl http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1286150 flosofl Fri, 02 Dec 2011 23:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1286150 It's the State Supreme Court. So any decision will only bind Illinois. It’s the State Supreme Court. So any decision will only bind Illinois.

]]> By: Felton / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1286134 Felton / Moderator Fri, 02 Dec 2011 23:32:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1286134 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTT1qUswYL0&t=1m42s" rel="nofollow">Beat me to it.  :-)</a> Beat me to it.  :-)

]]> By: Harry Palmer http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1286094 Harry Palmer Fri, 02 Dec 2011 23:03:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1286094 In the Lindenhurst case illustrated here the patrolman is already aware that he is being recorded by his own patrol car's dash camera - with audio.  In effect he arrests the defendant for recording a conversation that the patrolman has already consented to have recorded! I think you can also make the argument that official acts by the police, including traffic stops, are "public acts". They are certainly not provate - the police are acting in their capacity as public servants In the Lindenhurst case illustrated here the patrolman is already aware that he is being recorded by his own patrol car’s dash camera – with audio.  In effect he arrests the defendant for recording a conversation that the patrolman has already consented to have recorded!

I think you can also make the argument that official acts by the police, including traffic stops, are “public acts”. They are certainly not provate – the police are acting in their capacity as public servants

]]> By: Petzl http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1286043 Petzl Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1286043 Wait.  You used "uphold a civil rights decision" and "the Supreme Court" in the same sentence?   This Supreme Court?  Unless you build a time machine and go backwards or forwards 20 years, ain't gonna happen. Wait.  You used “uphold a civil rights decision” and “the Supreme Court” in the same sentence?   This Supreme Court?  Unless you build a time machine and go backwards or forwards 20 years, ain’t gonna happen.

]]> By: Kevin Faulk http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1285899 Kevin Faulk Fri, 02 Dec 2011 21:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1285899 You might check into recalibrating your sarcasm detector.  Or perhaps my attempt to mock the recording disclosures often given by collection agencies and "help" lines was unsuccessful. You might check into recalibrating your sarcasm detector.  Or perhaps my attempt to mock the recording disclosures often given by collection agencies and “help” lines was unsuccessful.

]]> By: bluest_one http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1285901 bluest_one Fri, 02 Dec 2011 21:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1285901 Authoritarians like their athor-i-tay. Authoritarians like their athor-i-tay.

]]> By: Kevin Faulk http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1285887 Kevin Faulk Fri, 02 Dec 2011 21:02:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1285887 Guess again. Guess again.

]]> By: EliZ http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1285831 EliZ Fri, 02 Dec 2011 20:36:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1285831 This is a good thing. It means the supreme court will uphold the dismissal and uphold the legality of our recording rights on a national level. This is a good thing. It means the supreme court will uphold the dismissal and uphold the legality of our recording rights on a national level.

]]> By: EH http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1285762 EH Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:52:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1285762 Never talk to the police. Never talk to the police.

]]> By: angusm http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1285706 angusm Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:21:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1285706 <i>"I hate Illinois Nazis."</i> ["The Blues Brothers"] “I hate Illinois Nazis.” ["The Blues Brothers"]

]]> By: marilove http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1285681 marilove Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1285681 Something tells me you're not a lawyer. Something tells me you’re not a lawyer.

]]> By: Guest http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1285677 Guest Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:04:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1285677 Then you can get in trouble for interrupting an officer performing their duty. The state will pretty much go after you no matter what you do. Then you can get in trouble for interrupting an officer performing their duty. The state will pretty much go after you no matter what you do.

]]> By: Kevin Faulk http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1285670 Kevin Faulk Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:59:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1285670 When witnessing excessive force, pull out your video camera and say, "Police officers, I am beginning to record you.  You may assent to this recording by continuing to use excessive force or by verbally or physically harassing me.  If you object to this recording, please peaceably leave the area."  When witnessing excessive force, pull out your video camera and say, “Police officers, I am beginning to record you.  You may assent to this recording by continuing to use excessive force or by verbally or physically harassing me.  If you object to this recording, please peaceably leave the area.” 

]]> By: Stonewalker http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1285662 Stonewalker Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:51:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1285662 Illinois is sort of the epicentre of rights violations... Illinois is sort of the epicentre of rights violations…

]]> By: millie fink http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1285655 millie fink Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:48:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1285655 "POLICE ARE ABOVE THE Illinois eavesdropping LAW." Says it all, doesn't it? “POLICE ARE ABOVE THE Illinois eavesdropping LAW.”

Says it all, doesn’t it?

]]> By: trefecta http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1285642 trefecta Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:31:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1285642 "What the hell is wrong with the Illinois government?" ... EDIT: Wow. “What the hell is wrong with the Illinois government?”
…

EDIT: Wow.

]]> By: WhyBother http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1285641 WhyBother Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1285641 "What the hell is wrong with the Illinois government?" I literally do not know where to begin with this statement. “What the hell is wrong with the Illinois government?”

I literally do not know where to begin with this statement.

]]> By: lavardera http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/state-appeals-dismissal-in-mic.html#comment-1285639 lavardera Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132651#comment-1285639 seems like a good way to scare citizens away from exerting their rights just sayin seems like a good way to scare citizens away from exerting their rights

just sayin

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