Comments on: Stephen Colbert explains SOPA http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Wed, 22 May 2013 11:12:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: librtee_dot_com http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1287123 librtee_dot_com Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:02:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1287123 No, didn't work for me.  Oh well, I won't torrent it, I'll do the one thing that is worse for any creative type..I'll simply ignore it and spend my time elsewhere. No, didn’t work for me. 

Oh well, I won’t torrent it, I’ll do the one thing that is worse for any creative type..I’ll simply ignore it and spend my time elsewhere.

]]> By: MythicalMe http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1287109 MythicalMe Mon, 05 Dec 2011 06:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1287109 Networks aren't stupid, but in many places they have contracts with other providers. For instance here in Canada, NBC might have a contract with CTV (a Canadian network) that precludes NBC from broadcasting a show in Canada, even over the internet. The only option available is to block the streaming of their show. As many people have pointed out, this is a complete FAIL because while you can determine where someone lives by their IP address it doesn't always mean that the IP address isn't spoofed. Networks aren’t stupid, but in many places they have contracts with other providers. For instance here in Canada, NBC might have a contract with CTV (a Canadian network) that precludes NBC from broadcasting a show in Canada, even over the internet. The only option available is to block the streaming of their show.

As many people have pointed out, this is a complete FAIL because while you can determine where someone lives by their IP address it doesn’t always mean that the IP address isn’t spoofed.

]]> By: Brandelyn http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1287024 Brandelyn Mon, 05 Dec 2011 01:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1287024 Their children? Try themselves. Have you seen what their websites look like? They have copyrighted materials all over the place. Their children? Try themselves. Have you seen what their websites look like? They have copyrighted materials all over the place.

]]> By: Brandelyn http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1287023 Brandelyn Mon, 05 Dec 2011 00:59:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1287023 I think this was the only way he could get around the censors (VIACOM) to talk about SOPA and PIPA. I know TDS ain't mentioning it and it might be because everyone knows what kind of show it is but Colbert still has that satire thing going on so people might think he's on their side. I think this was the only way he could get around the censors (VIACOM) to talk about SOPA and PIPA. I know TDS ain’t mentioning it and it might be because everyone knows what kind of show it is but Colbert still has that satire thing going on so people might think he’s on their side.

]]> By: Brandelyn http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1287020 Brandelyn Mon, 05 Dec 2011 00:54:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1287020 MAFIAA Fire had an add-on that would combat that. But it didn't out right so they went back to the drawing board. what you can do is get a US proxy, fire fox has a few proxy add-ons, and from a US IP addy you can access it. No need to download it since you can view their eps online. MAFIAA Fire recently came out with a proxy rotation add-on called The Pirate Bay Dancing, but they tend to shun to US Proxies because of SOPA and PIPA. But there are others there. If worse comes to worse, you can try TOR, but it's run by volunteers and mainly used by human rights advocates and activists to protect themselves. MAFIAA Fire had an add-on that would combat that. But it didn’t out right so they went back to the drawing board. what you can do is get a US proxy, fire fox has a few proxy add-ons, and from a US IP addy you can access it. No need to download it since you can view their eps online.

MAFIAA Fire recently came out with a proxy rotation add-on called The Pirate Bay Dancing, but they tend to shun to US Proxies because of SOPA and PIPA. But there are others there.

If worse comes to worse, you can try TOR, but it’s run by volunteers and mainly used by human rights advocates and activists to protect themselves.

]]> By: Brandelyn http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1287018 Brandelyn Mon, 05 Dec 2011 00:51:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1287018 They can seize the domain. But not shut down it down from the ISP or cut off the funding or make it a CRIMINAL offense and apply prison time to it. Besides, MAFIAA Fire killed it with The Pirate Bay Dancing app in which it rotates thousands of proxies (mainly non-US based ones) so you can access the banned sites. We can also still access them via just putting in the IP addy instead of the domain name. This does nothing but make the legal sites like YouTube, Twitter, and FaceBook more vulnerable and have people leave and go underground to do their stuff. It won't stop it, it will make it worse. Studies have shown, pirates are the biggest customers. But with this coming out. More people will boycott things and be less likely to pay for things. Why should I shell out my hard earned money to this igit who is trying to kill the internet and my ability to watch their damn show before I rent it on Netflix or buy it online via Amazon? Not to mention as a small business owner this will impact my business as I plan on distributing my content via these 'pirate' websites because of the high viewership they have. It is the BEST way to try to get your product out to the world without shelling out a damn penny. It's called Free PR. Data is not permanent. It is not a real threat in the long term. I own VCR tapes that are older than I am and they still work. But DVDs get scratches and digital copies get corrupted. Only physical forms last semi-permanently. They can seize the domain. But not shut down it down from the ISP or cut off the funding or make it a CRIMINAL offense and apply prison time to it.

Besides, MAFIAA Fire killed it with The Pirate Bay Dancing app in which it rotates thousands of proxies (mainly non-US based ones) so you can access the banned sites. We can also still access them via just putting in the IP addy instead of the domain name.

This does nothing but make the legal sites like YouTube, Twitter, and FaceBook more vulnerable and have people leave and go underground to do their stuff. It won’t stop it, it will make it worse.

Studies have shown, pirates are the biggest customers. But with this coming out. More people will boycott things and be less likely to pay for things. Why should I shell out my hard earned money to this igit who is trying to kill the internet and my ability to watch their damn show before I rent it on Netflix or buy it online via Amazon?

Not to mention as a small business owner this will impact my business as I plan on distributing my content via these ‘pirate’ websites because of the high viewership they have. It is the BEST way to try to get your product out to the world without shelling out a damn penny. It’s called Free PR.

Data is not permanent. It is not a real threat in the long term. I own VCR tapes that are older than I am and they still work. But DVDs get scratches and digital copies get corrupted. Only physical forms last semi-permanently.

]]> By: Dedzig http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286813 Dedzig Sun, 04 Dec 2011 14:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286813 I looked at those girls shown in the clip and thought of my son.  A video of him dancing to a well-known song went viral recently.  Here is what was interesting to me: Within days of the video going viral, it was showing up on television. So, in these times, when media companies are working and spending to get draconian anti-piracy laws enabled in order to punish those who download content for personal use, media companies have no problem stealing content from a 9 year old and selling advertising with that content.  It just kind of blows me away. I can only imagine if he downloaded some of their content and tried to do the same.  I looked at those girls shown in the clip and thought of my son.  A video of him dancing to a well-known song went viral recently. 

Here is what was interesting to me: Within days of the video going viral, it was showing up on television. So, in these times, when media companies are working and spending to get draconian anti-piracy laws enabled in order to punish those who download content for personal use, media companies have no problem stealing content from a 9 year old and selling advertising with that content.  It just kind of blows me away. I can only imagine if he downloaded some of their content and tried to do the same. 

]]> By: devophill http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286786 devophill Sun, 04 Dec 2011 09:06:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286786 Just a show?? *gasp* My- my world is crumbling... Just a show?? *gasp* My- my world is crumbling…

]]> By: Laroquod http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286685 Laroquod Sun, 04 Dec 2011 00:46:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286685 "really, are tv networks that stupid?" Yes, yes they are, as they have demonstrated many times over. “really, are tv networks that stupid?”

Yes, yes they are, as they have demonstrated many times over.

]]> By: Laroquod http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286684 Laroquod Sun, 04 Dec 2011 00:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286684 I have no cable television. What's your point? And if you respond, don't forget to account for the fact that I am lazy and not willing to lift a single extra finger compared to what an American would lift in order to follow a link and watch some comedy clip. Therefore these shows do not exist for me as I explained. I have no cable television. What’s your point? And if you respond, don’t forget to account for the fact that I am lazy and not willing to lift a single extra finger compared to what an American would lift in order to follow a link and watch some comedy clip. Therefore these shows do not exist for me as I explained.

]]> By: Sebastian Spinczyk http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286672 Sebastian Spinczyk Sun, 04 Dec 2011 00:01:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286672 This is only a tangent, but I think that SOPA (which, if passed, would have a very real effect even on a non-american like me) tosses counterfeiting and piracy into the same pot, even though the two aren't really anything alike. Counterfeiting requires - by definition, really - some sort of overhead, and is thusly the domain of organized crime, which can afford said overhead (and in my book, China is as organized as crime will ever get). Also, counterfeit goods are a real competition to  "legitimate" products, because people <i>actually pay money for them</i>. Piracy, on the other hand, is a low-barrier "crime" that doesn't really compete with anything because it's <i>free</i>. Whatever you might think about piracy - do you <i>really</i> believe that someone who downloads one or two songs to preview an album he's interested in is on the same page - in the same <i>book</i> - as someone who buys a fake brand handbag? This is only a tangent, but I think that SOPA (which, if passed, would have a very real effect even on a non-american like me) tosses counterfeiting and piracy into the same pot, even though the two aren’t really anything alike.
Counterfeiting requires – by definition, really – some sort of overhead, and is thusly the domain of organized crime, which can afford said overhead (and in my book, China is as organized as crime will ever get). Also, counterfeit goods are a real competition to  “legitimate” products, because people actually pay money for them.
Piracy, on the other hand, is a low-barrier “crime” that doesn’t really compete with anything because it’s free.

Whatever you might think about piracy – do you really believe that someone who downloads one or two songs to preview an album he’s interested in is on the same page – in the same book – as someone who buys a fake brand handbag?

]]> By: bluest_one http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286670 bluest_one Sat, 03 Dec 2011 23:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286670 More4 shows the stupid-head "international" version, once a week. It's pointless. More4 shows the stupid-head “international” version, once a week. It’s pointless.

]]> By: bluest_one http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286668 bluest_one Sat, 03 Dec 2011 23:54:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286668 Nah - I'll just torrent the whole programme. Less hassle and it's obviously what Comedy Central want. Nah – I’ll just torrent the whole programme. Less hassle and it’s obviously what Comedy Central want.

]]> By: Sebastian Spinczyk http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286665 Sebastian Spinczyk Sat, 03 Dec 2011 23:47:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286665 Seriously? I've always been pleased that Comedy Central is the *one* US Network whose online content I can access here in Germany. I wouldn't know what I'd do without that - The Daily Show has kept me up to date on US politics for the last 4 years or so :D Anyway, it's weird. I can watch those videos just fine. Seriously? I’ve always been pleased that Comedy Central is the *one* US Network whose online content I can access here in Germany. I wouldn’t know what I’d do without that – The Daily Show has kept me up to date on US politics for the last 4 years or so :D
Anyway, it’s weird. I can watch those videos just fine.

]]> By: dahlia http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286580 dahlia Sat, 03 Dec 2011 20:01:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286580 i don't understand what the problem is with streaming. perhaps the issue is different for movies/music vs. tv shows, but what i find strange is this current trend among the networks of locking down their current episodes so they can only be streamed by cable subscribers or people who subscribe to a service like hulu plus -- even though they are "free" over-the-air networks.  it makes no sense, don't they see how this loses them viewership? if my favorite show is on, say, nbc, and i'm in the habit of watching it online because that's more convenient, then i'll gladly sit through a commercial -- which i cannot skip -- to watch it on nbc's website.  you've retained my viewership and you've put my eyeballs on your sponsor's commercial. if my favorite show is on fox, however, and i'm not a cable or hulu plus subscriber, i have to wait a week for the new episode -- which i might do, or i might go to my friend's house and watch it on tivo where we skip every commercial, or i might find it online somewhere, again commercial-free.  fox has possibly lost my viewership, and their sponsors have lost my eyeballs. when my favorite nbc show comes out on dvd, i might buy it, because i enjoyed it so much.  or i might buy show-related merchandise because i'm a fan.  or i will tell my friends to watch the show because it's so awesome.  win all over. incidentally, i think nbc is considering locking their shows too.  if this is obvious to me, why isn't it obvious to them? it's even more obvious when it's kid's programming -- if you make your popular kid show easily available on your website or hulu or youtube, kids will find it and get hooked on watching it over and over, as kids do, and will be asking for show merchandise for christmas -- again, win all over. also, as someone said above, there are eyeballs everywhere now.  lock your content up, and you're limiting the viewers to the decreasing numbers who pay for cable.  leave it out there, and the guy in the UK who's gotten hooked on your show is new eyeballs. really, are tv networks that stupid? i don’t understand what the problem is with streaming.

perhaps the issue is different for movies/music vs. tv shows, but what i find strange is this current trend among the networks of locking down their current episodes so they can only be streamed by cable subscribers or people who subscribe to a service like hulu plus — even though they are “free” over-the-air networks.  it makes no sense, don’t they see how this loses them viewership?

if my favorite show is on, say, nbc, and i’m in the habit of watching it online because that’s more convenient, then i’ll gladly sit through a commercial — which i cannot skip — to watch it on nbc’s website.  you’ve retained my viewership and you’ve put my eyeballs on your
sponsor’s commercial.

if my favorite show is on fox, however, and i’m not a cable or hulu plus subscriber, i have to wait a week for the new episode — which i might do, or i might go to my friend’s house and watch it on tivo where we skip every commercial, or i might find it online somewhere, again commercial-free.  fox has possibly lost my viewership, and their sponsors have lost
my eyeballs.

when my favorite nbc show comes out on dvd, i might buy it, because i enjoyed it so much.  or i might buy show-related merchandise because i’m a fan.  or i will tell my friends to watch the show because it’s so awesome.  win all over.

incidentally, i think nbc is considering locking their shows too.  if this is obvious to me, why isn’t it obvious to them?

it’s even more obvious when it’s kid’s programming — if you make your popular kid show easily available on your website or hulu or youtube, kids will find it and get hooked on watching it over and over, as kids do, and will be asking for show merchandise for christmas — again, win all over.

also, as someone said above, there are eyeballs everywhere now.  lock your content up, and you’re limiting the viewers to the decreasing numbers who pay for cable.  leave it out there, and the guy in the UK who’s gotten hooked on your show is new eyeballs.

really, are tv networks that stupid?

]]> By: Margaret L Clarke http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286545 Margaret L Clarke Sat, 03 Dec 2011 18:11:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286545 Not available in Canada Not available in Canada

]]> By: Nathan Hornby http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286510 Nathan Hornby Sat, 03 Dec 2011 16:27:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286510 Where do you live?  'Cause The Daily Show airs in the UK, on TV no less. Where do you live?  ‘Cause The Daily Show airs in the UK, on TV no less.

]]> By: Kai ubergs http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286500 Kai ubergs Sat, 03 Dec 2011 16:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286500 ahem. Here's how you can watch it from anywhere: If you have Firefox install the following addon Modify Header then: 1) Go to tools-> modify headers 2) From the drop down box on the left select add 3) Then enter: "X-Forwarded-For" in the first input box without the quotation marks 4) Enter: "12.13.14.15" in the second input box without the quotation marks 5) Leave the last input box empty, and save the filter, and enable it 6) Click the 'Configuration' tab on the right then proceed to check the 'always on' button. Close the Modify Headers box and it should work. ahem.
Here’s how you can watch it from anywhere:
If you have Firefox install the following addon Modify Header then:
1) Go to tools-> modify headers
2) From the drop down box on the left select add
3) Then enter: “X-Forwarded-For” in the first input box without the quotation marks
4) Enter: “12.13.14.15″ in the second input box without the quotation marks
5) Leave the last input box empty, and save the filter, and enable it
6) Click the ‘Configuration’ tab on the right then proceed to check
the ‘always on’ button. Close the Modify Headers box and it should work.

]]> By: Chris Lawrence http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286501 Chris Lawrence Sat, 03 Dec 2011 16:08:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286501 Psst, modify headers lets you watch from the US site http://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/8zjv7/instructions_on_how_to_watch_thedailyshowcom/ Psst, modify headers lets you watch from the US site

http://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/8zjv7/instructions_on_how_to_watch_thedailyshowcom/

]]> By: Russ McClay http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286495 Russ McClay Sat, 03 Dec 2011 15:47:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286495 Fact is, the US Government can already shut down and seize websites.   It doesn't need SOPA.  SOPA would merely give more legitimacy to what they already can do. Fact is, the US Government can already shut down and seize websites.   It doesn’t need SOPA.  SOPA would merely give more legitimacy to what they already can do.

]]> By: Russ McClay http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286492 Russ McClay Sat, 03 Dec 2011 15:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286492 Viewed from Taiwan  no problem. No proxy, no VPN.  Viewed from Taiwan  no problem. No proxy, no VPN. 

]]> By: Mike Scott http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286480 Mike Scott Sat, 03 Dec 2011 15:20:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286480 Wow this was trippy - both videos auto-playing at the same time. Looks nuts. Wow this was trippy – both videos auto-playing at the same time. Looks nuts.

]]> By: Laroquod http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286476 Laroquod Sat, 03 Dec 2011 15:09:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286476 Yeah, I don't ever watch Stephen Colbert or Jon Stewart anymore, because I can't be bothered to fire up BitTorrent daily just for a comedy news show, and every time I get linked to it online, it never works. (And if I can't be arsed to torrent it, you can imagine how I feel about going to the Canadian Comedy Network and trying to find the same video that was linked, by navigating their braindead, siloed interface.) Colbert and Stewart just don't exist for me. The shows come out and then Comedy Central shoots them in the head before they get to me. I am out here, network idiots, and I have eyeballs -- so come and get me. Don't expect me to come to you. Yeah, I don’t ever watch Stephen Colbert or Jon Stewart anymore, because I can’t be bothered to fire up BitTorrent daily just for a comedy news show, and every time I get linked to it online, it never works. (And if I can’t be arsed to torrent it, you can imagine how I feel about going to the Canadian Comedy Network and trying to find the same video that was linked, by navigating their braindead, siloed interface.)

Colbert and Stewart just don’t exist for me. The shows come out and then Comedy Central shoots them in the head before they get to me. I am out here, network idiots, and I have eyeballs — so come and get me. Don’t expect me to come to you.

]]> By: Carpeteria http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286464 Carpeteria Sat, 03 Dec 2011 14:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286464 Oh, I'm sure at some point some kind of disgusting fermented fish product has made its way over here from you nice folks. You're welcome to come pick it up whenever you wish. Oh, I’m sure at some point some kind of disgusting fermented fish product has made its way over here from you nice folks. You’re welcome to come pick it up whenever you wish.

]]> By: A. . http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286452 A. . Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286452 Seconded...the entire show, unlike, for instance, The Daily Show (which is real news-- check it out sometime!), is a farce.  I just read that Colbert isn't even a Republican, that's it's all a show.  I don't even know if he's part of the 1% any more.   Seconded…the entire show, unlike, for instance, The Daily Show (which is real news– check it out sometime!), is a farce.  I just read that Colbert isn’t even a Republican, that’s it’s all a show.  I don’t even know if he’s part of the 1% any more.  

]]> By: Tino http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286447 Tino Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:32:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286447 Given how he is just vaguely reciting  content-mafia talking points, I'd suspect he's just used as useful idiot here. The guys that sent him there hoped he might look sympathic in his jumper compared against a lawyer in a suit. That's it. Given how he is just vaguely reciting  content-mafia talking points, I’d suspect he’s just used as useful idiot here. The guys that sent him there hoped he might look sympathic in his jumper compared against a lawyer in a suit. That’s it.

]]> By: MrWednesday7 http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286442 MrWednesday7 Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:12:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286442 Well, thanks but it doesn't work in the UK.  Well, thanks but it doesn’t work in the UK. 

]]> By: Øyvind http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286441 Øyvind Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:10:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286441 I'm in Norway, and it works fine here too. And we never gave you anything that I'm aware of (and if we did, we want it back!). I’m in Norway, and it works fine here too. And we never gave you anything that I’m aware of (and if we did, we want it back!).

]]> By: vettekaas http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286439 vettekaas Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286439 It's working in France, too. It’s working in France, too.

]]> By: Neural Kernel http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html#comment-1286436 Neural Kernel Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:42:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=132730#comment-1286436 You give us tulips, we give you Colbert! You give us tulips, we give you Colbert!

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