Comments on: Trailer Tuesday: We Need to Talk About Kevin (2011) http://boingboing.net/2011/12/13/trailer-tuesday-we-need-to-ta.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sat, 18 May 2013 23:59:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: greebo http://boingboing.net/2011/12/13/trailer-tuesday-we-need-to-ta.html#comment-1297553 greebo Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:47:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134124#comment-1297553 It's an absolutely incredible book. No idea what the movie is like, but I felt after reading the book that it's basically unfilmable. The book is harrowing, evocative, and has an amazing ("I did not see that coming") ending. Just read it. It’s an absolutely incredible book. No idea what the movie is like, but I felt after reading the book that it’s basically unfilmable. The book is harrowing, evocative, and has an amazing (“I did not see that coming”) ending. Just read it.

]]> By: blueelm http://boingboing.net/2011/12/13/trailer-tuesday-we-need-to-ta.html#comment-1296005 blueelm Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:23:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134124#comment-1296005 It sounds like a good book. I find these kinds of things hard to deal with, but I think the test of good art is if people end up arguing about it. It sounds like a good book. I find these kinds of things hard to deal with, but I think the test of good art is if people end up arguing about it.

]]> By: blueelm http://boingboing.net/2011/12/13/trailer-tuesday-we-need-to-ta.html#comment-1295935 blueelm Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:34:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134124#comment-1295935 By the way, lots of things are heritable. Deafness, certain types of cognitive delays, certain types of dementia, heart diseases, crushingly horrible diseases that kill slowly, hairlip, lots of freaking things are heritable.  None of these things are excuses for sterilization though every single one has been broached that way in the past. The fact that some people believe in eugenics (typically people with very shallow understandings of genetics and evolution) means nothing. Some people are wrong, so what? It doesn't change the evidence. By the way, lots of things are heritable. Deafness, certain types of cognitive delays, certain types of dementia, heart diseases, crushingly horrible diseases that kill slowly, hairlip, lots of freaking things are heritable.  None of these things are excuses for sterilization though every single one has been broached that way in the past. The fact that some people believe in eugenics (typically people with very shallow understandings of genetics and evolution) means nothing. Some people are wrong, so what? It doesn’t change the evidence.

]]> By: blueelm http://boingboing.net/2011/12/13/trailer-tuesday-we-need-to-ta.html#comment-1295927 blueelm Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134124#comment-1295927 No, just no. Postmodern analysis works great for art, but some mental illnesses are real and some mental illnesses are more dangerous than others for the people around the mentally ill person.  No, just no. Postmodern analysis works great for art, but some mental illnesses are real and some mental illnesses are more dangerous than others for the people around the mentally ill person. 

]]> By: lknope http://boingboing.net/2011/12/13/trailer-tuesday-we-need-to-ta.html#comment-1295908 lknope Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:00:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134124#comment-1295908 I definitely recommend the book this was based on by Lionel Shriver.  As for the nature/nuture debate Shriver said in an interview that half of her readers seemed to think Kevin was born that way and half blamed it on his mother which made Shriver feel she had done her job as an author.  I tend to think Kevin was born that way and his environment didn't help which is probably closest to what happens in real life.  People are born with whatever gene and that gene is or is not expressed based on their environment.  It's not really ever 100% nature or 100% nurture.  In the book, the couple had a daughter as well and she was sweet as pie. Anyway, it's an excellent book and I'm glad Swinton is playing the mother.  Slightly odd choice for the father but he was kind of a doofus in the book.  Not exactly an idiot but more fully committed to a certain view of the world which did not include a psychopath son. I definitely recommend the book this was based on by Lionel Shriver.  As for the nature/nuture debate Shriver said in an interview that half of her readers seemed to think Kevin was born that way and half blamed it on his mother which made Shriver feel she had done her job as an author.  I tend to think Kevin was born that way and his environment didn’t help which is probably closest to what happens in real life.  People are born with whatever gene and that gene is or is not expressed based on their environment.  It’s not really ever 100% nature or 100% nurture.  In the book, the couple had a daughter as well and she was sweet as pie.

Anyway, it’s an excellent book and I’m glad Swinton is playing the mother.  Slightly odd choice for the father but he was kind of a doofus in the book.  Not exactly an idiot but more fully committed to a certain view of the world which did not include a psychopath son.

]]> By: Mantissa128 http://boingboing.net/2011/12/13/trailer-tuesday-we-need-to-ta.html#comment-1295871 Mantissa128 Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:59:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134124#comment-1295871 Holy cow. Google much? ASPD and psychopathy are hardly a social construction, they are brain disorders. Holy cow. Google much? ASPD and psychopathy are hardly a social construction, they are brain disorders.

]]> By: bbmcrae http://boingboing.net/2011/12/13/trailer-tuesday-we-need-to-ta.html#comment-1295826 bbmcrae Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:35:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134124#comment-1295826 Glad to see Tilda Swinton playing a glaring, gaunt, scarecrow-ish lady for once. Glad to see Tilda Swinton playing a glaring, gaunt, scarecrow-ish lady for once.

]]> By: blackbooks http://boingboing.net/2011/12/13/trailer-tuesday-we-need-to-ta.html#comment-1295807 blackbooks Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:36:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134124#comment-1295807 Sociopathy is a social construction. Relating it to heritability is a cry back to the bad old 1920s, and the 'moral imbecile'. Sterilisation, anyone? Sociopathy is a social construction. Relating it to heritability is a cry back to the bad old 1920s, and the ‘moral imbecile’. Sterilisation, anyone?

]]> By: phormula http://boingboing.net/2011/12/13/trailer-tuesday-we-need-to-ta.html#comment-1295598 phormula Wed, 14 Dec 2011 02:46:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134124#comment-1295598 Sociopathy is most definitely inherited. Although not all bad seeds are sociopaths Sociopathy is most definitely inherited. Although not all bad seeds are sociopaths

]]> By: millie fink http://boingboing.net/2011/12/13/trailer-tuesday-we-need-to-ta.html#comment-1295556 millie fink Wed, 14 Dec 2011 02:07:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134124#comment-1295556 Hmm, most "bad seeds" are made, not born. I hope the surprise twist at the end of this one reveals the former, instead of continuing to depict (and reinforce fallacious notions of) the latter. Hmm, most “bad seeds” are made, not born. I hope the surprise twist at the end of this one reveals the former, instead of continuing to depict (and reinforce fallacious notions of) the latter.

]]> By: Justin Burns http://boingboing.net/2011/12/13/trailer-tuesday-we-need-to-ta.html#comment-1295445 Justin Burns Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:57:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134124#comment-1295445 Calvin of "Calvin and Hobbes" would be a great subject for this as well :) Calvin of “Calvin and Hobbes” would be a great subject for this as well :)

]]> By: mkultra http://boingboing.net/2011/12/13/trailer-tuesday-we-need-to-ta.html#comment-1295415 mkultra Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:30:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134124#comment-1295415 I would love to see a parody of this... "We Need to Talk About Calvin", following Calvin Klein family from birth through the process of his mother discovering that he's... stylish. I would love to see a parody of this… “We Need to Talk About Calvin”, following Calvin Klein family from birth through the process of his mother discovering that he’s… stylish.

]]> By: hypersomniac http://boingboing.net/2011/12/13/trailer-tuesday-we-need-to-ta.html#comment-1295405 hypersomniac Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:22:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134124#comment-1295405 Tilda Swinton is amazing. Keep sending your finest exports this way UK and Oz. Tilda Swinton is amazing. Keep sending your finest exports this way UK and Oz.

]]> By: SCAQTony http://boingboing.net/2011/12/13/trailer-tuesday-we-need-to-ta.html#comment-1295386 SCAQTony Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:11:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134124#comment-1295386 Been there, doing that! (I actually have physical injuries.) If there is anybody else raising a "Satan's Little Helper" Lots of "time-in" with the kid and team activities; (water polo/swimming raised her self esteem greatly), and she is getting good grades and is almost near normal. Your demon may vary. Been there, doing that! (I actually have physical injuries.)

If there is anybody else raising a “Satan’s Little Helper” Lots of “time-in” with the kid and team activities; (water polo/swimming raised her self esteem greatly), and she is getting good grades and is almost near normal. Your demon may vary.

]]> By: igpajo http://boingboing.net/2011/12/13/trailer-tuesday-we-need-to-ta.html#comment-1295368 igpajo Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:51:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134124#comment-1295368 Well that looks heartwarming.   I remember seeing a teaser trailer for it and thought it looked like a comedy.  Looks like anything but after that trailer.  Definitley want to see it though.  Well that looks heartwarming.   I remember seeing a teaser trailer for it and thought it looked like a comedy.  Looks like anything but after that trailer.  Definitley want to see it though. 

]]> By: taras http://boingboing.net/2011/12/13/trailer-tuesday-we-need-to-ta.html#comment-1295349 taras Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:33:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134124#comment-1295349 I've just been to see <i>We Need to Speak About Cory</i>, an intense steampunk thriller about a rag-tag band of cypherpunks who bring down multinational music corporations. I’ve just been to see We Need to Speak About Cory, an intense steampunk thriller about a rag-tag band of cypherpunks who bring down multinational music corporations.

]]> By: Deidzoeb http://boingboing.net/2011/12/13/trailer-tuesday-we-need-to-ta.html#comment-1295346 Deidzoeb Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:29:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134124#comment-1295346 Zombies are so 2010. Matricide is 2011. At least for a few more days. Zombies are so 2010. Matricide is 2011. At least for a few more days.

]]> By: Greg Bosen http://boingboing.net/2011/12/13/trailer-tuesday-we-need-to-ta.html#comment-1295310 Greg Bosen Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:58:00 +0000 http://boingboing.net/?p=134124#comment-1295310 Stewie! Stewie!

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