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		<title>By: Xander</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1301401</link>
		<dc:creator>Xander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 18:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, it wasn&#039;t just -me- seeing that?  Whew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, it wasn&#8217;t just -me- seeing that?  Whew.</p>
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		<title>By: ♡ Malcolm Jackson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1300342</link>
		<dc:creator>♡ Malcolm Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 00:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fun. E !</description>
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		<title>By: peter jackson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1300129</link>
		<dc:creator>peter jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like eat Veg.   ............. Sorry, I don&#039;t like Non-Veg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like eat Veg.   &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. Sorry, I don&#8217;t like Non-Veg.</p>
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		<title>By: ali</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1300119</link>
		<dc:creator>ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 13:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I actually live in a country that is two thirds mountains with cows everywhere you look. We almost exclusively consume domestic meat.&quot;

Just in case this country happens to be Switzerland it should be mentioned that this is due to the state protecting domestic farmers from any foreign competition (for long there was an almost de facto import prohibition) and resulting ridiculously high meat prices. It is not motivated by a worry for the environment or the animals but comes out of a concern for the income of the mythical farmer.

But perhaps you live somewhere else. Anyway I agree with you to a large extend. I just have a reflex against Swiss rural romanticism, that&#039;s all. Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I actually live in a country that is two thirds mountains with cows everywhere you look. We almost exclusively consume domestic meat.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just in case this country happens to be Switzerland it should be mentioned that this is due to the state protecting domestic farmers from any foreign competition (for long there was an almost de facto import prohibition) and resulting ridiculously high meat prices. It is not motivated by a worry for the environment or the animals but comes out of a concern for the income of the mythical farmer.</p>
<p>But perhaps you live somewhere else. Anyway I agree with you to a large extend. I just have a reflex against Swiss rural romanticism, that&#8217;s all. Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: TheMudshark</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1300037</link>
		<dc:creator>TheMudshark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want &quot;disgusting human on a plate&quot; done right check this out:
http://evancampbell.deviantart.com/art/Funeral-meat-253796271</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want &#8220;disgusting human on a plate&#8221; done right check this out:<br />
<a href="http://evancampbell.deviantart.com/art/Funeral-meat-253796271" rel="nofollow">http://evancampbell.deviantart.com/art/Funeral-meat-253796271</a></p>
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		<title>By: Will Bueche</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1299980</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Bueche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 07:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not just pornography, any art of nude women that depicts the character(s) with any range of emotions or conditions or story elements that portray them as anything other than strong and super. I recall one of her slides showed a woman who appeared to have survived a shipwreck or something because she&#039;d managed to wash up on a beach, and there were some pearls nearby that the figure was reaching for. It appeared to be some kind of statement about vanity, in that the character had evidently lost everything but wanted the jewels, or maybe she was meant to have no sense of what is valuable, or maybe her pursuit of jewels led her to fall of a boat and wash up on shore. Who knows. But she said the photo celebrated the death of a woman on a beach.

I wouldn&#039;t trust her to interpret any art, not with her foregone conclusion about what it all means. It is a common mistake that amateur critics make when they assume that any statement about a subject that an artist makes is an endorsement of that subject, rather than a call to think about that subject. 

Soap, just read her Wiki and reach your own conclusions. What seems evident is she was attacked on her way back from a modeling gig. She blamed her profession for her attack - or for cultivating the mindset of her attackers. Ergo, better not model. Better warn the whole world not to model! Better consider that it is all a conspiracy to cultivate a mindset in which women can be attacked! Some traction to that idea, in that there is certainly art - and advertising - which does depict women as weak, and it is indeed trying to sell an image of what women &quot;are&quot;, which is limited and constraining and objectionable if it were meant to be the sum total of the person&#039;s (character&#039;s) existence. But a sensible person knows that people &quot;are&quot; everything - weak to strong, happy to angry, perfect to imperfect, etc., and would not try to stop the depiction of some aspects of the human condition out of the belief that people are too stupid to know anything but what bands of conditions they see in art. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not just pornography, any art of nude women that depicts the character(s) with any range of emotions or conditions or story elements that portray them as anything other than strong and super. I recall one of her slides showed a woman who appeared to have survived a shipwreck or something because she&#8217;d managed to wash up on a beach, and there were some pearls nearby that the figure was reaching for. It appeared to be some kind of statement about vanity, in that the character had evidently lost everything but wanted the jewels, or maybe she was meant to have no sense of what is valuable, or maybe her pursuit of jewels led her to fall of a boat and wash up on shore. Who knows. But she said the photo celebrated the death of a woman on a beach.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t trust her to interpret any art, not with her foregone conclusion about what it all means. It is a common mistake that amateur critics make when they assume that any statement about a subject that an artist makes is an endorsement of that subject, rather than a call to think about that subject. </p>
<p>Soap, just read her Wiki and reach your own conclusions. What seems evident is she was attacked on her way back from a modeling gig. She blamed her profession for her attack &#8211; or for cultivating the mindset of her attackers. Ergo, better not model. Better warn the whole world not to model! Better consider that it is all a conspiracy to cultivate a mindset in which women can be attacked! Some traction to that idea, in that there is certainly art &#8211; and advertising &#8211; which does depict women as weak, and it is indeed trying to sell an image of what women &#8220;are&#8221;, which is limited and constraining and objectionable if it were meant to be the sum total of the person&#8217;s (character&#8217;s) existence. But a sensible person knows that people &#8220;are&#8221; everything &#8211; weak to strong, happy to angry, perfect to imperfect, etc., and would not try to stop the depiction of some aspects of the human condition out of the belief that people are too stupid to know anything but what bands of conditions they see in art. </p>
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		<title>By: Culturedropout</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1299890</link>
		<dc:creator>Culturedropout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 04:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d eat it.</description>
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		<title>By: EricT</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1299846</link>
		<dc:creator>EricT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take that, emotionally distant father!</description>
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		<title>By: ryuchi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1299838</link>
		<dc:creator>ryuchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pig= police officer who tasers &amp; paper sprays exuberantly - didn&#039;t i express it clearly :D ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pig= police officer who tasers &amp; paper sprays exuberantly &#8211; didn&#8217;t i express it clearly :D ??</p>
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		<title>By: soap</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1299763</link>
		<dc:creator>soap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 01:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come to the Dakotas, Kansas, Montana...

Heck, come anywhere 120+ day corn isn&#039;t going to happen.

The US grazes plenty of cattle.  You are simply incorrect. Do no not confuse corn finished with corn raised.

We don&#039;t bale the interstate RoW to feather our beds!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come to the Dakotas, Kansas, Montana&#8230;</p>
<p>Heck, come anywhere 120+ day corn isn&#8217;t going to happen.</p>
<p>The US grazes plenty of cattle.  You are simply incorrect. Do no not confuse corn finished with corn raised.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t bale the interstate RoW to feather our beds!</p>
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		<title>By: soap</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1299762</link>
		<dc:creator>soap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 01:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dare I ask your impression of &quot;why she reached for that conclusion&quot;?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dare I ask your impression of &#8220;why she reached for that conclusion&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Anon_Mahna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon_Mahna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first thought was it was someone&#039;s art piece/social commentary on western society&#039;s attitude towards women.   Veggicidal people do amuse me greatly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first thought was it was someone&#8217;s art piece/social commentary on western society&#8217;s attitude towards women.   Veggicidal people do amuse me greatly.</p>
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		<title>By: Ladyfingers</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1299742</link>
		<dc:creator>Ladyfingers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What? I&#039;m sorry, I was trying to see her privates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What? I&#8217;m sorry, I was trying to see her privates.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Antonio Morales</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1299700</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco Antonio Morales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 23:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A dead cow hacked up in bloody bits and thrown on that plate: THAT would have more shock value, a message and might put off some people from consuming meat.

Right now it&#039;s a useless, masturbatory stock photo that says nothing, and achieves even less. (Beautiful and sexy, but useless.)

A better example: (translation: &quot;Here is the rest of your fur coat&quot;)
http://greenmob.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/pieles.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A dead cow hacked up in bloody bits and thrown on that plate: THAT would have more shock value, a message and might put off some people from consuming meat.</p>
<p>Right now it&#8217;s a useless, masturbatory stock photo that says nothing, and achieves even less. (Beautiful and sexy, but useless.)</p>
<p>A better example: (translation: &#8220;Here is the rest of your fur coat&#8221;)<br />
<a href="http://greenmob.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/pieles.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://greenmob.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/pieles.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: calf</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1299686</link>
		<dc:creator>calf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 23:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, rajma gave pretty sloppy reasons. What do you make of he/she putting words in my mouth? I never said anything about nudity; that was entirely their inclusion. For example, the subject could have been fully clothed or basted with makeup to resemble roasted chicken skin, and I would have still used the word provocative or some similar word. The idea of &quot;thought-provoking&quot; doesn&#039;t require a high bar for its application, because it&#039;s a pretty generic and well-known term. Again, I don&#039;t know why rajma was fixating on this other than that they didn&#039;t like what I said.

&gt; Perhaps this sort of imagery is new to you.  Lucky you.  It is not so to the rest of us.

I think, like others, you&#039;re focusing on the female nudity. I don&#039;t think that is a fair evaluation. It could have been a naked man and still an interesting photo.

&gt; isn&#039;t the least bit funny, especially if you bother to be troubled by the misogynistic dismissal of women as disposable or consumable flesh

I do agree with this issue. However, you seem to have already decided that there was no ironic intent in the picture; irony and sarcasm are forms of humor. Therefore I don&#039;t think my original choice of words in describing the photo was inaccurate.

Maybe there&#039;s a certain crowd on boingboing that is jaded, but I think they&#039;re just a) failing to see things in a simpler light, and b) projecting their own pre-existing opinions on the comments of other people. I myself am new here and find this kind of hostility unwarranted. I must point out that the objective fact is this thread is 70+ comments long. Let me ask, how else do you want to measure provocativity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, rajma gave pretty sloppy reasons. What do you make of he/she putting words in my mouth? I never said anything about nudity; that was entirely their inclusion. For example, the subject could have been fully clothed or basted with makeup to resemble roasted chicken skin, and I would have still used the word provocative or some similar word. The idea of &#8220;thought-provoking&#8221; doesn&#8217;t require a high bar for its application, because it&#8217;s a pretty generic and well-known term. Again, I don&#8217;t know why rajma was fixating on this other than that they didn&#8217;t like what I said.</p>
<p>&gt; Perhaps this sort of imagery is new to you.  Lucky you.  It is not so to the rest of us.</p>
<p>I think, like others, you&#8217;re focusing on the female nudity. I don&#8217;t think that is a fair evaluation. It could have been a naked man and still an interesting photo.</p>
<p>&gt; isn&#8217;t the least bit funny, especially if you bother to be troubled by the misogynistic dismissal of women as disposable or consumable flesh</p>
<p>I do agree with this issue. However, you seem to have already decided that there was no ironic intent in the picture; irony and sarcasm are forms of humor. Therefore I don&#8217;t think my original choice of words in describing the photo was inaccurate.</p>
<p>Maybe there&#8217;s a certain crowd on boingboing that is jaded, but I think they&#8217;re just a) failing to see things in a simpler light, and b) projecting their own pre-existing opinions on the comments of other people. I myself am new here and find this kind of hostility unwarranted. I must point out that the objective fact is this thread is 70+ comments long. Let me ask, how else do you want to measure provocativity?</p>
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		<title>By: Iscah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iscah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 23:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One can, in fact, deny that &quot;the imagery is provocative, and memorable and kind of funny.&quot;  Rajma just did, and for very good reasons.  It must be hard for you to find it frustrating that so many people disagree with you, and that you find hir claim to be difficult to respond to, but really, when images of nude, conventionally attractive women are associated with meat on a near-daily basis in an attempt to make some sort of &#039;new&#039; and thus memorable statement about the moral nature of carnivorous consumption, or simply to sell more hamburgers, it no longer counts as provocative, is too derivative and banal to be memorable, and isn&#039;t the least bit funny, especially if you bother to be troubled by the misogynistic dismissal of women as disposable or consumable flesh.  

Perhaps this sort of imagery is new to you.  Lucky you.  It is not so to the rest of us.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can, in fact, deny that &#8220;the imagery is provocative, and memorable and kind of funny.&#8221;  Rajma just did, and for very good reasons.  It must be hard for you to find it frustrating that so many people disagree with you, and that you find hir claim to be difficult to respond to, but really, when images of nude, conventionally attractive women are associated with meat on a near-daily basis in an attempt to make some sort of &#8216;new&#8217; and thus memorable statement about the moral nature of carnivorous consumption, or simply to sell more hamburgers, it no longer counts as provocative, is too derivative and banal to be memorable, and isn&#8217;t the least bit funny, especially if you bother to be troubled by the misogynistic dismissal of women as disposable or consumable flesh.  </p>
<p>Perhaps this sort of imagery is new to you.  Lucky you.  It is not so to the rest of us.  </p>
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		<title>By: guanto</title>
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		<dc:creator>guanto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, since I don&#039;t quite know how to respond to baseless stabs in the dark, I&#039;ll leave you with a Scientific American article about findings of actual scientists in this field; in other words, people who actually know what they&#039;re talking about. This is how they suggest we could double food production by 2050: &quot;The steps are as follows: improve crop yields, consume less meat, reduce food waste, stop expanding into rainforests, and use fertilizer and water more efficiently.&quot; http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=foley-global-food-production-reduce-environmental-damage-maps</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, since I don&#8217;t quite know how to respond to baseless stabs in the dark, I&#8217;ll leave you with a Scientific American article about findings of actual scientists in this field; in other words, people who actually know what they&#8217;re talking about. This is how they suggest we could double food production by 2050: &#8220;The steps are as follows: improve crop yields, consume less meat, reduce food waste, stop expanding into rainforests, and use fertilizer and water more efficiently.&#8221; <a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=foley-global-food-production-reduce-environmental-damage-maps" rel="nofollow">http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=foley-global-food-production-reduce-environmental-damage-maps</a></p>
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		<title>By: calf</title>
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		<dc:creator>calf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. If you think mere nudity is supposed to be the provocative part, you&#039;re the one who is missing the point. What is shocking and what is thought provoking are inequivalent sets. I gave three specific examples, and they had nothing to do with nudity.

2. You disagree with what I said, and so allow only the most extremely interpretation of the word &quot;provocative&quot;. I.e. you&#039;re fixating on one single piece of diction.

To be clear:

&gt; Anybody claiming that images of nude conventionally attractive women

I never claimed that. Your objections are sloppy and I find this extremely difficult to respond to.

All the people who &quot;Liked&quot; your comment are being similarly misled. This is quite frustrating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. If you think mere nudity is supposed to be the provocative part, you&#8217;re the one who is missing the point. What is shocking and what is thought provoking are inequivalent sets. I gave three specific examples, and they had nothing to do with nudity.</p>
<p>2. You disagree with what I said, and so allow only the most extremely interpretation of the word &#8220;provocative&#8221;. I.e. you&#8217;re fixating on one single piece of diction.</p>
<p>To be clear:</p>
<p>&gt; Anybody claiming that images of nude conventionally attractive women</p>
<p>I never claimed that. Your objections are sloppy and I find this extremely difficult to respond to.</p>
<p>All the people who &#8220;Liked&#8221; your comment are being similarly misled. This is quite frustrating.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Filak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Filak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent picture, even a cow walking around on the plate should suffice. I do not consider myself an animal activist, and many don&#039;t, but can recognize that killing these animals is both unnecessary and detrimental to our health. Eat well and LIVE longer we will!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent picture, even a cow walking around on the plate should suffice. I do not consider myself an animal activist, and many don&#8217;t, but can recognize that killing these animals is both unnecessary and detrimental to our health. Eat well and LIVE longer we will!</p>
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		<title>By: guanto</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1299626</link>
		<dc:creator>guanto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 21:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, you&#039;re missing the fact that much of the world eats very, very little meat (cause, guess what, raising livestock is too expensive and resource-intensive, no matter how you slice it; difficult terrain doesn&#039;t exactly help). A meat-heavy diet is _generally_ the privilege of at least moderately wealthy people.

Look, there&#039;s no way you could support your statement with facts, let alone your &quot;vast majority of the world&#039;s livestock&quot; claim (which is especially specious). You really don&#039;t have to justify eating meat; it&#039;s perfectly acceptable in today&#039;s world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, you&#8217;re missing the fact that much of the world eats very, very little meat (cause, guess what, raising livestock is too expensive and resource-intensive, no matter how you slice it; difficult terrain doesn&#8217;t exactly help). A meat-heavy diet is _generally_ the privilege of at least moderately wealthy people.</p>
<p>Look, there&#8217;s no way you could support your statement with facts, let alone your &#8220;vast majority of the world&#8217;s livestock&#8221; claim (which is especially specious). You really don&#8217;t have to justify eating meat; it&#8217;s perfectly acceptable in today&#8217;s world.</p>
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		<title>By: eryximachus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1299611</link>
		<dc:creator>eryximachus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Meat is murder!&#039;

These people have never watched a nature special, have they...  The world spins on &#039;murder&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Meat is murder!&#8217;</p>
<p>These people have never watched a nature special, have they&#8230;  The world spins on &#8216;murder&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: DeargDoom</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1299607</link>
		<dc:creator>DeargDoom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 21:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can become a police officer in the US without having to earn any qualifications? Wow, explains a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can become a police officer in the US without having to earn any qualifications? Wow, explains a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: gordonjcp</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1299585</link>
		<dc:creator>gordonjcp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 21:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, because that only works *if* you have land suitable for arable farming in the first place.  The vast majority of the world&#039;s farmland isn&#039;t terribly suitable for arable farming on the scale you&#039;d require for everyone to be vegetarian.

If you&#039;ve got a cunning scheme for making a typical Scottish Highlands hill farm into an arable farm with rolling waves of amber grain then I&#039;d love to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, because that only works *if* you have land suitable for arable farming in the first place.  The vast majority of the world&#8217;s farmland isn&#8217;t terribly suitable for arable farming on the scale you&#8217;d require for everyone to be vegetarian.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve got a cunning scheme for making a typical Scottish Highlands hill farm into an arable farm with rolling waves of amber grain then I&#8217;d love to see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Halloween Jack</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1299536</link>
		<dc:creator>Halloween Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing that it provokes in me is pity for the woman who&#039;s probably literally freezing her ass off in public for something that the vast majority of the public will instantly and properly categorize as yet another example of a certain publicity-loving segment of the animal rights movement&#039;s perennial willingness to objectify women under the guise of making a point. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing that it provokes in me is pity for the woman who&#8217;s probably literally freezing her ass off in public for something that the vast majority of the public will instantly and properly categorize as yet another example of a certain publicity-loving segment of the animal rights movement&#8217;s perennial willingness to objectify women under the guise of making a point. </p>
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		<title>By: benher</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1299497</link>
		<dc:creator>benher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 18:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also because it&#039;s Boingboing.  ;)
Frankly, I thought it was just supposed to be a cute girl on a plate with salad...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also because it&#8217;s Boingboing.  ;)<br />
Frankly, I thought it was just supposed to be a cute girl on a plate with salad&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Chemist</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1299481</link>
		<dc:creator>The Chemist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fun part about reading all these comments is the realization that the format does overpower the message. Evidenced by the numerous arguments about whether or not it does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fun part about reading all these comments is the realization that the format does overpower the message. Evidenced by the numerous arguments about whether or not it does.</p>
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		<title>By: The Chemist</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1299478</link>
		<dc:creator>The Chemist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this context, my first impression was that of &lt;i&gt;literal&lt;/i&gt; pigs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this context, my first impression was that of <i>literal</i> pigs.</p>
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		<title>By: The Chemist</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1299477</link>
		<dc:creator>The Chemist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I point you to this article in &lt;i&gt;The Believer&lt;/i&gt;. Enjoy:
http://www.believermag.com/issues/201102/?read=interview_francione</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I point you to this article in <i>The Believer</i>. Enjoy:<br />
<a href="http://www.believermag.com/issues/201102/?read=interview_francione" rel="nofollow">http://www.believermag.com/issues/201102/?read=interview_francione</a></p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1299475</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*redacted*</description>
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		<title>By: bkad</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/naked-lunch.html#comment-1299471</link>
		<dc:creator>bkad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I&#039;m the only dense one here, but if I saw this on the street, I would have no idea that it was about vegetarianism. I&#039;m not sure I would even assume it had a message. When it is pointed out, I can see: it&#039;s saying that because people are made out of meat, and you wouldn&#039;t eat people, maybe you shouldn&#039;t eat meat. I&#039;m not sure I would figure that out on my own. 

[edit: caption says this was part of a protest. If I were around bunch of protesters, I&#039;d be more likely to look for the message in the art. So I WOULD figure it out.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I&#8217;m the only dense one here, but if I saw this on the street, I would have no idea that it was about vegetarianism. I&#8217;m not sure I would even assume it had a message. When it is pointed out, I can see: it&#8217;s saying that because people are made out of meat, and you wouldn&#8217;t eat people, maybe you shouldn&#8217;t eat meat. I&#8217;m not sure I would figure that out on my own. </p>
<p>[edit: caption says this was part of a protest. If I were around bunch of protesters, I'd be more likely to look for the message in the art. So I WOULD figure it out.]</p>
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